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(Daily Mail)   Little-studied Vitamin A2 could give you Terminator-like infrared vision, allow you to search for Sarah Connor   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 36
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2014-08-26 08:57:32 AM  
Wow. Daily Fail science at its failiest.
 
2014-08-26 09:34:56 AM  
Well, it was a nice try. Call us when you get it working.

media.giphy.com
 
2014-08-26 09:35:40 AM  
Seriously if you're pushing a science story don't put this picture on your site:

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2014-08-26 09:58:28 AM  
Meh, I'm already half-elf.
 
2014-08-26 10:18:58 AM  
What vitamin will give me x-ray vision? I need to know for...research.

/And don't tell me vitamin-K. That doesn't work.
 
2014-08-26 10:23:47 AM  
You already have some infrared vision, but you need a filter and a warm day so your 98.6*F doesn't blot it out.
 
2014-08-26 11:58:33 AM  
It lost out because what can be identified through infrared scopes can be quantified and produce uniform results.  As opposed to "I think I see better."
 
2014-08-26 12:31:59 PM  
Hrm, an article from the daily fail about a simple change in diet that can give us infrared terminator vision.

Totally seems true and worth a Fark link...
 
2014-08-26 12:38:28 PM  

Snarfangel: What vitamin will give me x-ray vision? I need to know for...research.

/And don't tell me vitamin-K. That doesn't work.


Vitamin Plutonium. But you have to take it rectally.
 
2014-08-26 12:44:59 PM  

wildcardjack: You already have some infrared vision, but you need a filter and a warm day so your 98.6*F doesn't blot it out.


No. No, you don't. Unless you count "feeling warmth on your face".
 
2014-08-26 12:47:14 PM  
Let me guess: someone, somewhere, who knows the right person at the Mail, almost has their "expensive urine" vitamin A2 factory ready to start production.
 
2014-08-26 12:55:41 PM  

ImpendingCynic: Let me guess: someone, somewhere, who knows the right person at the Mail, almost has their "expensive urine" vitamin A2 factory ready to start production.


And we're done. Watching the Daily Fail attempt to manufacture a new diet trend is amusing, if nothing else.

The human eye, as noted in the article, isn't wired for IR - it is wired for UV, thanks to our evolutionary origins, but we don't see much UV because the lens screens it out (and, incidentally, protects us from going friggin' blind due to UV overexposure - we get lots more UV light on land than our distant ancestors did underwater.)  We can normally pick up light in the range of 314.5 nm, near the limit imposed by corneal UV absorbance, to about 650 nm. That's hardware - no amount of vitamin is going to change that. To change that, you have to tamper with the hardware - for UV sensitivity, you have to remove the lens of the eye. There's no tampering I know of that will provide IR sensitivity.
 
2014-08-26 12:57:46 PM  
Congo blue goggles.
 
2014-08-26 12:59:38 PM  
 
2014-08-26 01:08:15 PM  

Parthenogenetic: Infravision and why it should be destroyed

/NERDS!


C'mon, now, that article rocks - and, yes, darkvision makes a hell of a lot more sense than infravision.
 
2014-08-26 01:10:03 PM  
Vitamin A2 sounds like retinol to me. This is the complete form of vitamin A you find in egg yolks and organ meat as opposed to beta caratene in plant foods.

Not sure why you'd need walleye livers for this, but I've got a steady supply within an easy drive. People used to just take cod liver oil for this, though.
 
2014-08-26 01:14:52 PM  

FormlessOne: Parthenogenetic: Infravision and why it should be destroyed

/NERDS!

C'mon, now, that article rocks - and, yes, darkvision makes a hell of a lot more sense than infravision.


This is an infravision thread.  You take your fancy "darkvision", and "blindsight" and "tremorsense" and what not, and shove it in a Bag of Holding.  Then stuff it in a Portable Hole, sonny.

/Yearns for the days when men were men, women wore chainmail bikinis, negative armor class was good, and people had enough common sense and gumption to use THAC0
 
2014-08-26 01:21:51 PM  
Could you imagine tripping balls with infravision?
 
2014-08-26 01:37:46 PM  
I remember reading a thing about how you can train yourself to recognize polarized light with the naked eye. I thought this was going to be about that. I think it had something to do with pink and yellow bow-ties in the blue of the sky opposite the sun, but that was a while ago.

Ah, here we go:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haidinger's_brush
 
2014-08-26 02:16:26 PM  
I can almost imagine that ingesting a variant form of vitamin A could cause some substitution in photopigments, possibly turning them into something with more IR sensitivity. But I'll need a lot more than a Daily Fail article to think it could actually work.

TFA is also full of the expected confusion between near-IR and thermal IR, even though they correctly describe the goal as "near-IR sensitivity". No, this wouldn't give you thermal vision. Maybe you'd be able to see things glowing at 600 degrees rather than 900 degrees. It's still not going to help you see energy leaks from your house, unless your house is actually on fire, in which case your factory-standard photopigments will do just fine.
 
2014-08-26 02:17:32 PM  

FormlessOne: Parthenogenetic: Infravision and why it should be destroyed

/NERDS!

C'mon, now, that article rocks - and, yes, darkvision makes a hell of a lot more sense than infravision.


Nope, it's still infravision, because it's the infrared range.
Yes it works best at night. UV vision kicks in in the late evening, after sunnset when all the reds wavelengths have filtered out, but before it's completely dark. Go look at flowers specifically to check that out.  There's also more to seeing polarized light than the Haidingers brush thing.

//eat more fresh fish eyes and livers
//or more acid
 
2014-08-26 02:19:14 PM  

jfarkinB: I can almost imagine that ingesting a variant form of vitamin A could cause some substitution in photopigments, possibly turning them into something with more IR sensitivity. But I'll need a lot more than a Daily Fail article to think it could actually work.

TFA is also full of the expected confusion between near-IR and thermal IR, even though they correctly describe the goal as "near-IR sensitivity". No, this wouldn't give you thermal vision. Maybe you'd be able to see things glowing at 600 degrees rather than 900 degrees. It's still not going to help you see energy leaks from your house, unless your house is actually on fire, in which case your factory-standard photopigments will do just fine.


this
people also confuse near IR and IR with heat exclusively.
 
2014-08-26 02:27:04 PM  

Parthenogenetic: FormlessOne: Parthenogenetic: Infravision and why it should be destroyed

/NERDS!

C'mon, now, that article rocks - and, yes, darkvision makes a hell of a lot more sense than infravision.

This is an infravision thread.  You take your fancy "darkvision", and "blindsight" and "tremorsense" and what not, and shove it in a Bag of Holding.  Then stuff it in a Portable Hole, sonny.

/Yearns for the days when men were men, women wore chainmail bikinis, negative armor class was good, and people had enough common sense and gumption to use THAC0


Thttthtpt. As an old-school gamer that enjoys THAC0, I still like the idea of consistency in my gaming. But, then again, I miss both Traveller and Rolemaster, so, there you go, I guess.
 
2014-08-26 02:55:06 PM  
jfarkinB:TFA is also full of the expected confusion between near-IR and thermal IR, even though they correctly describe the goal as "near-IR sensitivity". No, this wouldn't give you thermal vision. Maybe you'd be able to see things glowing at 600 degrees rather than 900 degrees. It's still not going to help you see energy leaks from your house, unless your house is actually on fire, in which case your factory-standard photopigments will do just fine.

THIS.

You won't see any thermal images.  Used to have to use near IR viewers all the time for work to align a nonvisible laser.  It really didn't produce any cool effects beyond being able to see the laser spot.

You can get awesome surreal landscapes* if you both use a special film and block all the visible light, but nothing special if you try it without the filter.  And take it from me, you don't want to be going around with those very dark red glasses. It's not a good look.

*Foliage looks brighter, but not because it's warmer, rather because it reflects more sunlight in that range, while the sky scatters it less and appears darker.  Smoke and haze also scatter less, so I have also used it to photograph wildfires from the next mountain over, which is kinda fun.
 
2014-08-26 03:28:41 PM  
So I can get infravision from eating elf livers, then?
 
2014-08-26 03:32:05 PM  
I actually did play around with an IR phosphor card long ago, in the days before digital cameras. I could heat an object to a temperature where I couldn't see it glowing, but when I focused its image on the card, I could see a little glow.

I don't remember the spectral range of the phosphor, but it had to be "charged up" with visible light, and IR would trigger it to emit. I've probably still got the card somewhere; I'll see if I can find out more about it.
 
2014-08-26 03:33:01 PM  
That's Predator vision, Daily Fail. Terminator vision is like looking into a virtual boy.


img1.wikia.nocookie.net


/can't hit two targets from 30 yards with a mini gun.
 
2014-08-26 03:33:36 PM  

hardinparamedic: Snarfangel: What vitamin will give me x-ray vision? I need to know for...research.

/And don't tell me vitamin-K. That doesn't work.

Vitamin Plutonium. But you have to take it rectally.


In fist-sized doses.
 
2014-08-26 03:34:49 PM  

with great power comes great insanity: So I can get infravision from eating elf livers, then?


Sure, but don't eat them because of infravision. Eat them because they taste great!
 
2014-08-26 03:49:02 PM  

Snarfangel: What vitamin will give me x-ray vision? I need to know for...research.

/And don't tell me vitamin-K. That doesn't work.


Go for Z-Ray.  It's twice as good.
 
2014-08-26 04:05:02 PM  

Snarfangel: What vitamin will give me x-ray vision? I need to know for...research.

/And don't tell me vitamin-K. That doesn't work.


It will give you visions allright!
 
2014-08-26 04:18:55 PM  

Snarfangel: What vitamin will give me x-ray vision? I need to know for...research.

/And don't tell me vitamin-K. That doesn't work.


Vitamin X, obviously.

/or those eyedrops that "X, The Man With The X-ray Eyes" took.
//scariest final line for a movie (supposedly), after he rips out his eyes: "I can still see!"
 
2014-08-26 04:34:40 PM  
I wanted infravision like the elves... But 'tis more than just taking their eyes...
 
2014-08-26 04:41:22 PM  

FormlessOne: Parthenogenetic: FormlessOne: Parthenogenetic: Infravision and why it should be destroyed

/NERDS!

C'mon, now, that article rocks - and, yes, darkvision makes a hell of a lot more sense than infravision.

This is an infravision thread.  You take your fancy "darkvision", and "blindsight" and "tremorsense" and what not, and shove it in a Bag of Holding.  Then stuff it in a Portable Hole, sonny.

/Yearns for the days when men were men, women wore chainmail bikinis, negative armor class was good, and people had enough common sense and gumption to use THAC0

Thttthtpt. As an old-school gamer that enjoys THAC0, I still like the idea of consistency in my gaming. But, then again, I miss both Traveller and Rolemaster, so, there you go, I guess.


Ah, yes...  Traveller.  My first character died during the process of creation...

*throws a handful of electrum pieces on the bar counter*  Taverner!  Get this man FormlessOne a few pints of whatever he wishes!
 
2014-08-27 07:52:10 AM  
I'd like to terminate anyone that uses that old, used up headline meme
 
2014-08-27 01:10:03 PM  
I'd prefer backscatter vision myself...

/or some kind of directed-energy ocular beam
 
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