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(io9)   Arkham Asylum needs to be shut down   (io9.com) divider line 51
    More: Obvious, Arkham Asylum, killer croc, great white sharks, Harvey Dent, multiple personalities  
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2014-08-26 10:27:34 AM  
Watching the Adam West version, and Bruce Wayne was on the parole board that kept letting The Joker out. Same old, same old.
 
2014-08-26 10:39:10 AM  
If Batman would stop being a pussy and just kill them, it wouldn't be a problem.
 
2014-08-26 10:53:30 AM  

Mugato: If Batman would stop being a pussy and just kill them, it wouldn't be a problem.


Batman isn't being a pussy.  This screwy situation is all by his design.

Everybody is forgetting that Batman is by far and away the biggest nutcase of them all. He NEEDS those supervillians out on the streets of Gotham.
 
2014-08-26 12:23:37 PM  
Honestly, that's pretty realistic.  There's nowhere else to put them. Belle Reve is the only other major place (a supervillain prison in the DC Universe) and the fact is that has tons of breakouts too.

The fact is that Arkham houses the people no one else is willing to house.  It's the Guantanamo Bay of DC.  Which really paints a terrible pictures of Batman.
 
2014-08-26 12:25:42 PM  
That depends. Are there prisons/asylums that do a good job of keeping supervillains locked up forever? No regular prison is going to be able to hold a guy made out of mud who can slide through door cracks and turn his hands into sword blades. The fact that Arkham can hold people like that for any length of time is probably a "best we can do" sort of thing.

But yeah, after the third or fourth time one of them gets out and throws poison gas all over the city they should probably just get a street execution and be done with it.
 
2014-08-26 12:45:27 PM  
Now I feel like firing up one of the Arkham games and beating up some bad guys.
 
2014-08-26 12:45:32 PM  
Ah, yes, comic books. Where the barely-functional CEO of the biggest arms manufacturer in the world can just go "eh, nope" and stop producing weapons immediately.
 
2014-08-26 12:55:43 PM  

Riche: Mugato: If Batman would stop being a pussy and just kill them, it wouldn't be a problem.

Batman isn't being a pussy.  This screwy situation is all by his design.

Everybody is forgetting that Batman is by far and away the biggest nutcase of them all. He NEEDS those supervillians out on the streets of Gotham.


Pretty much, Batman needs to be the biggest baddest creature of the night... and he needs the other creatures of the night to know it and fear him. If he started mowing down drug dealers and the like there wouldn't be anyone left to fear the Bat- that's half the reason he wears that costume; good-doing seems to be more of a nice bonus to him.
 
2014-08-26 12:57:44 PM  

miscreant: Now I feel like firing up one of the Arkham games and beating up some bad guys.


Me too...pretty pissed that Arkham Knight wont be out until next year and only on Next Gen systems.
 
2014-08-26 12:58:19 PM  
Put me in the camp of Batman needs these lunatics close at hand to blame them for the "oops" when he goes a bit too far in his nightly escapades.

Triple homicide in the housing projects? Must have been Man-bat again.
 
2014-08-26 01:02:55 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: If he started mowing down drug dealers and the like


That's exactly who he mowed down for quite a long time. Common thugs and muggers. Sometimes they even gave him a pretty good go. Which is why I always find the superman/batman thing to be hilarious.

/throw him into the sun
 
2014-08-26 01:03:20 PM  

RainbeauxSue: Ah, yes, comic books. Where the barely-functional CEO of the biggest arms manufacturer in the world can just go "eh, nope" and stop producing weapons immediately.


Lex Luthor did that?
 
2014-08-26 01:09:48 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Crotchrocket Slim: If he started mowing down drug dealers and the like

That's exactly who he mowed down for quite a long time. Common thugs and muggers. Sometimes they even gave him a pretty good go. Which is why I always find the superman/batman thing to be hilarious.

/throw him into the sun


For that matter, didn't most of his rogues start as Dick Tracy-esque mob bosses and the like?  The idea that they were supervillains only came later.
 
2014-08-26 01:14:44 PM  

Last Man on Earth: JohnBigBootay: Crotchrocket Slim: If he started mowing down drug dealers and the like

That's exactly who he mowed down for quite a long time. Common thugs and muggers. Sometimes they even gave him a pretty good go. Which is why I always find the superman/batman thing to be hilarious.

/throw him into the sun

For that matter, didn't most of his rogues start as Dick Tracy-esque mob bosses and the like?  The idea that they were supervillains only came later.


Not really.  Batman started in his early comics dealing with mobsters (like maybe first few issues, but pretty quickly some of his original well-known rogues began showing up.  Catwoman, Hugo Strange,  and Joker first appeared in 1940, Scarecrow was 1941, and Two-Face was 1942,
 
2014-08-26 01:22:11 PM  

sign_of_Zeta: Honestly, that's pretty realistic.  There's nowhere else to put them. Belle Reve is the only other major place (a supervillain prison in the DC Universe) and the fact is that has tons of breakouts too.

The fact is that Arkham houses the people no one else is willing to house.  It's the Guantanamo Bay of DC.  Which really paints a terrible pictures of Batman.


Blackgate, also in Gotham.  Arkham houses the insane supervillains.  It's an asylum.  In a city cursed/possessed by elder gods and awful symmetry hidden deep within the earth and street plans of the city.

Also, Gotham city is alive and wants to get in Robin's tights, but that's another issue all together.  Sort of.
 
2014-08-26 01:25:08 PM  

LucklessWonder: RainbeauxSue: Ah, yes, comic books. Where the barely-functional CEO of the biggest arms manufacturer in the world can just go "eh, nope" and stop producing weapons immediately.

Lex Luthor did that?


Tony Stark
 
2014-08-26 01:49:02 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Blackgate, also in Gotham.  Arkham houses the insane supervillains.  It's an asylum.  In a city cursed/possessed by elder gods and awful symmetry hidden deep within the earth and street plans of the city.


Blackgate really houses non-powered criminals, doesn't it?  I mean, depending on the continuity it has housed some Batman villains but the super-powered one usually went to Belle Reve.
 
2014-08-26 01:52:00 PM  
yahtzee!
 
2014-08-26 01:54:14 PM  

sign_of_Zeta: LowbrowDeluxe: Blackgate, also in Gotham.  Arkham houses the insane supervillains.  It's an asylum.  In a city cursed/possessed by elder gods and awful symmetry hidden deep within the earth and street plans of the city.

Blackgate really houses non-powered criminals, doesn't it?  I mean, depending on the continuity it has housed some Batman villains but the super-powered one usually went to Belle Reve.


Is that where the Penguin usually ended up?  It seems like they sent him someplace different since he was just a more or less normal gangster.
 
2014-08-26 01:55:42 PM  

sign_of_Zeta: Last Man on Earth: JohnBigBootay: Crotchrocket Slim: If he started mowing down drug dealers and the like

That's exactly who he mowed down for quite a long time. Common thugs and muggers. Sometimes they even gave him a pretty good go. Which is why I always find the superman/batman thing to be hilarious.

/throw him into the sun

For that matter, didn't most of his rogues start as Dick Tracy-esque mob bosses and the like?  The idea that they were supervillains only came later.

Not really.  Batman started in his early comics dealing with mobsters (like maybe first few issues, but pretty quickly some of his original well-known rogues began showing up.  Catwoman, Hugo Strange,  and Joker first appeared in 1940, Scarecrow was 1941, and Two-Face was 1942,


That's kind of my point, though.  Before Joker was the way we know him now, he was the Clown Prince of Crime, a gang leader who looked like a clown with clown, joke, and gag theming.  Catwoman was a cat burglar who dressed like a cat and who stole cat-themed shiat.  As I recall, Dick Tracy was the same way.  If there was a villain named Stool Pigeon, you can bet he had a stool for a head.
 
2014-08-26 02:00:28 PM  

Last Man on Earth: If there was a villain named Stool Pigeon, you can bet he had a stool for a head.


The sitting kid of stool or the other kind?
 
2014-08-26 02:01:00 PM  

odinsposse: No regular prison is going to be able to hold a guy made out of mud who can slide through door cracks and turn his hands into sword blades.


I think someone like that would be turned over to the military.

Last Man on Earth: If there was a villain named Stool Pigeon, you can bet he had a stool for a head.


Shiathead.
 
2014-08-26 02:02:51 PM  
I have never seen anything in Batman movies or comics that suggests he deliberately creates his villians himself. In one comic he was afraid of hunting a serial killer, letting the police do it, because he realized that if he himself took them down it would become the defining moment in their compulsion to kill. It's just that comics can't terminate popular characters and they come up with flimsy reasons why. Coming up with an actual reason that Batman has a villians team would be bad writing, too cut and dry, and doesn't make sense anyhow.
 
2014-08-26 02:14:54 PM  

Last Man on Earth: That's kind of my point, though.  Before Joker was the way we know him now, he was the Clown Prince of Crime, a gang leader who looked like a clown with clown, joke, and gag theming.


Before that he was the the Joker, a serial murderer in his first depiction.  Joker today is much more like his initial depiction than the Crown Prince of Crime stuff which happened with a more kid friendly editor-in-chief for DC and then the Comics Code.

Last Man on Earth: Catwoman was a cat burglar who dressed like a cat and who stole cat-themed shiat.


She was originally just a normal cat burglar too.  The evolution of early DC Batman characters was: just slightly plausible (but not really), completely ridiculous, gothic insanity, gritty, somewhat plausible (but not really).
 
2014-08-26 02:15:57 PM  
www.internationalhero.co.uk
Yes, yes. We've heard it all before.
 
2014-08-26 02:53:44 PM  

Ed Grubermann: [www.internationalhero.co.uk image 341x500]
Yes, yes. We've heard it all before.


Of what relevance is Cassanova Frankenstein? Captain Amazing was in no way responsible for his release; the man most directly responsible was in fact Mr. Lance Hunt.
 
2014-08-26 03:06:20 PM  
Earth-51 Batman from Countdown to Final Crisis wound up killing most of the supervillains on his Earth after initially killing the Joker for the death of Jason Todd.  The problem was that his superhero allies were ill-prepared for a multiversal threat as they were out of practice and got their asses handed to them.
 
2014-08-26 03:09:24 PM  

eagles95: miscreant: Now I feel like firing up one of the Arkham games and beating up some bad guys.

Me too...pretty pissed that Arkham Knight wont be out until next year and only on Next Gen systems.


I'll be that guy and say "It's also coming out on Steam"

I am really looking forward to driving the Batmobile though. I liked Origins but it lost some of the character of the first two Arkham games. The Riddler didn't even have riddles :(
 
2014-08-26 03:32:00 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

/Wait, what?
//Different Arkham
 
2014-08-26 03:32:38 PM  
why don't they build an asylum on say, the moon? don't they have space travel pretty liberally in comics? make it a one way trip. even if they escape the cells, they're on the freaking moon.
 
2014-08-26 03:39:02 PM  
Soon I will be invincible.
 
2014-08-26 03:40:16 PM  

tlchwi02: why don't they build an asylum on say, the moon? don't they have space travel pretty liberally in comics? make it a one way trip. even if they escape the cells, they're on the freaking moon.


Both major comics have a version of a prison that is in another dimension (DC's Phantom Zone, Marvel has a Negative Zone prison).  Both have had multiple prisoners escape.  Basically, if there is a way in someone will find a way out.
 
2014-08-26 03:50:45 PM  

sign_of_Zeta: tlchwi02: why don't they build an asylum on say, the moon? don't they have space travel pretty liberally in comics? make it a one way trip. even if they escape the cells, they're on the freaking moon.

Both major comics have a version of a prison that is in another dimension (DC's Phantom Zone, Marvel has a Negative Zone prison).  Both have had multiple prisoners escape.  Basically, if there is a way in someone will find a way out.


Basically they're farking comic books. Not saying that's a bad thing, but if you start worrying about plot holes and inconsistencies, they kind of lose their charm.
 
2014-08-26 03:57:43 PM  

fawlty: Last Man on Earth: If there was a villain named Stool Pigeon, you can bet he had a stool for a head.

The sitting kid of stool or the other kind?


I sit for both.
 
2014-08-26 04:19:10 PM  

Dimensio: Ed Grubermann: [www.internationalhero.co.uk image 341x500]
Yes, yes. We've heard it all before.

Of what relevance is Cassanova Frankenstein? Captain Amazing was in no way responsible for his release; the man most directly responsible was in fact Mr. Lance Hunt.


You, I like you.
 
2014-08-26 04:22:05 PM  

StroboscopicCamel: I sit for both


lol, you're right of course
 
2014-08-26 05:58:59 PM  

sign_of_Zeta: tlchwi02: why don't they build an asylum on say, the moon? don't they have space travel pretty liberally in comics? make it a one way trip. even if they escape the cells, they're on the freaking moon.

Both major comics have a version of a prison that is in another dimension (DC's Phantom Zone, Marvel has a Negative Zone prison).  Both have had multiple prisoners escape.  Basically, if there is a way in someone will find a way out.


Basically its easier for the comic book writer to come up with a way the villain comes back to cause havoc again than to come up with a new villain.  And people like seeing stories with villains they are familiar with.
 
2014-08-26 06:36:18 PM  
No, he didn't revert, Two Face was cured of his false Harvey Dent persona. A success.
 
2014-08-26 06:51:06 PM  

tlchwi02: why don't they build an asylum on say, the moon? don't they have space travel pretty liberally in comics? make it a one way trip. even if they escape the cells, they're on the freaking moon.


Wasn't there a DC mini-series with that premise?

/think it was called Salvation Run
 
2014-08-26 07:18:36 PM  
 
2014-08-26 07:29:29 PM  
Arkham Origins needs to be shut down for being a buggy, broken PoS.  How it even made it onto Steam in its state is beyond comprehension.  Way to shiat all over your own IP.
 
2014-08-26 07:52:39 PM  
>Seriously, anyone can escape Arkham Asylum.

WRONG.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock-Up_%28comics%29

Lock-up img2.wikia.nocookie.net

Is just one character in the Batman Universe to have never escaped Arkham Asylum.
 
2014-08-26 07:59:22 PM  
 
2014-08-26 08:28:21 PM  
He should contract the curing of bad guys to Doc Savage. He cured criminals with "a simple brain operation", taught them a trade and put them in his debt a la Vito Corleone back in the 30's.
With 0% recidivism.

Doc had it going on!
 
2014-08-26 09:07:39 PM  

dstrick44: He should contract the curing of bad guys to Doc Savage. He cured criminals with "a simple brain operation", taught them a trade and put them in his debt a la Vito Corleone back in the 30's.
With 0% recidivism.

Doc had it going on!


It has been tried, in the DCAU:
jlurevisited.files.wordpress.com
/the fact that it's Scarface who has the heat-vision lobotomy scars is funny as hell.
 
2014-08-26 10:41:16 PM  
If you know the origin of the place, the real one shut down in the 80's and was turned into condos about a decade ago....img.fark.net
 
2014-08-27 12:51:36 AM  
Here's an idea.  Close down Arkham Asylum, and merge it with Blackgate prison.  Put all of the inmates in one place, build a wall with motion-detecting turrets to keep anyone from escaping.  Let the criminals have a small piece of the city to themselves, and call it good.  Even stick a couple doctors there to treat a couple of people, but mainly let the inmates run amok on each other.

Sounds like a great idea to me.  There's no way it could ever go wrong.
 
2014-08-27 04:00:43 AM  
I've always believed that Batman's activities and superheroic persona are a definite part of the problem.

If you were, perhaps, a low level New York drug dealer getting out of a 5 year stretch in Attica and want to get back in the game, where do you go? You don't read newspapers or what the news, but you surely know Superman and the Flash are real. Talking to your fellow cons, you know there is a guy in Washington state who shoots criminals with arrows. Down in Louisiana, there is a guy dressed like a hawk who might kill you.

Gotham though - nobody is really sure whether or not the "Batman" exists. There's a bat signal, but that place seems way more farked up than any other place that has superheroes. Nobody has really seen him. Sure, the city gets messed up - but by crime bosses. They have money and need guys just. Like. You.

Get a bus ticket, mahalo, you're about to lose every tooth in your head!
 
2014-08-27 09:41:24 AM  
Killer Croc in the Arkham games is a cannibal with rage issues. Don't tell me he's sane.
 
2014-08-27 11:20:37 AM  

skyotter: yahtzee!


I was really kinda surprised at the violence and sex stuff in that movie.

Was still awesome, especially deadshot vs joker.
 
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