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(LA Times)   The staff of the LA Times rates each MLB park. Surprisingly Dodger Stadium not in the top 5   (latimes.com) divider line 67
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2014-08-26 04:05:47 AM  
6. Philadelphia (Citizens Bank Park): Passionate fans help create a fun environment and the stadium isn't bad. The location isn't great, though.

Truer words.. The park is awesome.. The location is shiat.. I've lived here all my life and the area around the parks has always been an oasis of parking lots and industry. I remember when the Spectrum went, and then when Veterans Stadium left there was all this bullshiat talk of building up the area with places to eat and shop.. The only farking thing we got is the Xfinity Live

/would still murder someone for Old Bay fries at Chickie's and Pete's
 
2014-08-26 04:36:24 AM  
They probably tried to park at Dodger Stadium the day they wrote the article.
 
2014-08-26 04:57:13 AM  

styckx: 6. Philadelphia (Citizens Bank Park): Passionate fans help create a fun environment and the stadium isn't bad. The location isn't great, though.

Truer words.. The park is awesome.. The location is shiat.. I've lived here all my life and the area around the parks has always been an oasis of parking lots and industry. I remember when the Spectrum went, and then when Veterans Stadium left there was all this bullshiat talk of building up the area with places to eat and shop.. The only farking thing we got is the Xfinity Live

/would still murder someone for Old Bay fries at Chickie's and Pete's


My beef with it is that you really shouldn't call it a park. It's a stadium. If anything happens in there besides baseball, it's not a park even if the corporate masters want it called such.

Camden Yards is a farking jewel. Janet Marie Smith (who saved Fenway) convinced the city to keep the design small and tightly knit and beautifully married to the existing neighborhood. Its groundskeeper, Nicole McFadyen, is a complete lunatic genius who is probably the best in the business these days.

The concessions could be better, but honestly, if you're going to a game for food, you're doing it wrong.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Smith can do with Dodger Stadium. She's a true fan and a brilliant developer.

Fenway will always be first in my heart though.
 
2014-08-26 07:18:44 AM  
I haven't been to the new Yankee Stadium. Is it that mediocre? I'd thought something built so recently would be one of the top AL parks.
 
2014-08-26 07:18:53 AM  
What were the criteria?  This is stupid
 
2014-08-26 07:46:12 AM  
St. Louis (Busch Stadium): The best thing about this easy-to-access stadium is that crowd the Cardinals draw - among the most knowledgeable and appreciative fans in baseball.

Oh lord, don't encourage them.
 
2014-08-26 07:48:48 AM  
If the criteria is at least 10% obstructed views, boorish fans, a dirty concourse area, and age then yes, Fenway is at the top of the list. But there is so much history.......

I love these discussions, though. For my money, Safeco is a jewel. Camden yards would be tops if wasn't for previously discussed concessions and concession areas.

/sorry for rant, Red Sox hater and no coffee, yet
 
2014-08-26 08:07:29 AM  

Mentat: St. Louis (Busch Stadium): The best thing about this easy-to-access stadium is that crowd the Cardinals draw - among the most knowledgeable and appreciative fans in baseball.

Oh lord, don't encourage them.


As a Cardinal fan I agree and beg everyone to please, stop it.
 
2014-08-26 08:27:21 AM  
The complaint for Target Field is that it doesn't have a roof? Good lord.
 
2014-08-26 08:29:50 AM  
I love Fenway because it's been my home park forever, but unless you're in one of a few selected (and expensive) seats, it's a hard place to watch a game. Anything you can afford is either in the bleachers (which is fine unless it's too hot or too rainy), behind a pole, or in the right field grandstand where you're facing the wall (someone once aptly said you watch the whole game like you're backing your car out of the driveway).

Pittsburgh is as phenomenally beautiful as everyone says it is. It's definitely my favorite.

/14 down, 16 to go
//stupid Atlanta building a new park and forcing me to go back there
 
2014-08-26 08:40:05 AM  
Old Yankee Stadium had history and they tore it down.  Fenway is a dump.
 
2014-08-26 08:54:38 AM  
I've been to over 30 baseball stadiums, AT&T Park in San Fran is one of my favorites. PNC park offers a great view but the seats seems small. Progressive Field was pretty cool and I like Comerica and Candem Yards.

The New Yankee Stadium is OK. The one improvement over the old one is that you can now see the game from the concourse and it's much easier to get around.

Only stadiums I haven't visited are Miami and Minnesota's new ones, Seattle, Colorado, LA Angels, LA Dodgers, San Diego and Arizona. I saw an Expos game in Montreal not too long before they moved.
 
2014-08-26 09:02:51 AM  
I've been to 20 of these parks so far and the list is fairly accurate, despite calling the home of the Diamondbacks Bank One Ballpark.

The one rank I take issue with is Wrigley Field.  The Wrigleyville area is something special and incredibly unique to baseball.  The neighborhood around the stadium is amazing.  Wrigley Field itself is a dump.  It made me appreciate the renovation work done to Fenway over the years so much more.

Just came back from visiting Cleveland and Pittsburgh last week.  PNC Park is a great place to go to a game.  Saw AT&T Park in May, too.  I can't argue with the #1 overall ranking.
 
2014-08-26 09:04:19 AM  
What kind of crap article is this?  Dodger stadium may have a great view but you can't tailgate, you can't meet up with friends in a different part of the stadium, security is a bunch of assholes, and food and beer prices are even higher than most ballparks.  The only stadium worse is Houston with their asinine drinking rules.

Wait...there's more.  While, I won't argue but their number one selection I can't believe you would have Wrigley rated so low or Camden yards NOT #2.  There is more to a stadium than site lines!  Where is the Washington National's stadium?!  If you want an amazing view how can you not include the Mall as a scenic backdrop!  Plus they have beer specials!  Who else has beer specials!

I've been to a lot of stadiums from the Majors to the minors including spring training in both Cactus and Citrus leagues.  You have to include the entire experience when ranking a stadium.  Cleanliness, site lines, atmosphere, activities in and around the park, quality and variety of the food and drinks, and don't forget parking!

When I'm old I am going to be that grumpy old man with his beer yelling at everyone "Down in Front!"
 
2014-08-26 09:13:01 AM  
What were the metrics?  Meh.

I can see US Cellular though.  It was the final stadium of the pre-Camden Yards era where bigger was still better.  I will give them this, Sox fans can heckle like nobody else.  Also, the last time I was there was 14 years ago and there were so few people at the game that I smoked a one-hitter in the bathroom.
 
2014-08-26 09:16:31 AM  
They wimped out by having ties in a completely subjective ranking system
 
2014-08-26 09:21:05 AM  

mjohnson71: Mentat: St. Louis (Busch Stadium): The best thing about this easy-to-access stadium is that crowd the Cardinals draw - among the most knowledgeable and appreciative fans in baseball.

Oh lord, don't encourage them.

As a Cardinal fan I agree and beg everyone to please, stop it.


I agree also.  People keep labeling us this and the only people who don't say it are the actual fans. We don't care, we just want our team to win.  It's the national writers who keep saying this crap and getting everybody all worked up.
 
2014-08-26 09:21:10 AM  

Fallout Zone: The complaint for Target Field is that it doesn't have a roof? Good lord.


Oh, but you've got to find a way to get out of that blazing Minnesota sun.
 
2014-08-26 09:35:42 AM  

bark_atda_moon: Old Yankee Stadium had history and they tore it down.  Fenway is a dump.


New Yankees Stadium provides such a sterile, corporate viewing experience that you might as well be watching the game on a TV at Target's headquarters. And they knock CITI Field for its location and don't mention the dramatic neighborhood revitalization realized by the area around New Yankee (wanking motion)?

CITI is better than Shea. New Yankee is worse than all three.

Buy glad to see Great American gets the lack of respect it deserves. How hard is it to copy Camden Yards and put it on the Ohio River? Apparently too hard for the mouth breathers in Cincitucky.
 
2014-08-26 09:46:48 AM  
What a stupid list.  'Ewwwwww, it's so hot in Texas.'

/pussies
 
2014-08-26 10:03:50 AM  
15. Atlanta (Turner Field): Built as the centerpiece of the 1996 Olympics, it was converted for baseball after the Games. Less than 20 years later, the Braves have plans for a new home field.


Sigh...
 
2014-08-26 10:05:48 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Fallout Zone: The complaint for Target Field is that it doesn't have a roof? Good lord.

Oh, but you've got to find a way to get out of that blazing Minnesota sun.


Hey, now, without a roof that stadium will get really freaking cold in Octobe... oh, wait. Never mind.
 
2014-08-26 10:12:58 AM  
What's wrong with the Nad's park that puts them 12th?
 
2014-08-26 10:23:50 AM  

skinink: I haven't been to the new Yankee Stadium. Is it that mediocre? I'd thought something built so recently would be one of the top AL parks.


I love the new ballpark. The atrium is particularly nice. Get past the history, and the old park was filthy.
 
2014-08-26 10:31:35 AM  
Oh, I get it - let's hate on The Cell (worst park in the AL) - let's hate on Hawk (worst announcer in baseball) - FFS - I get it.

The Cell is actually a very nice park once it went through the renovations. Yes I miss Old Comiskey - but that is just my childhood speaking.

Can I get an article about how much better Cubs fans are now?

/need to go back to bed
//the chip on my shoulder, can you see it?
 
2014-08-26 10:32:42 AM  

largedon: mjohnson71: Mentat: St. Louis (Busch Stadium): The best thing about this easy-to-access stadium is that crowd the Cardinals draw - among the most knowledgeable and appreciative fans in baseball.

Oh lord, don't encourage them.

As a Cardinal fan I agree and beg everyone to please, stop it.

I agree also.  People keep labeling us this and the only people who don't say it are the actual fans. We don't care, we just want our team to win.  It's the national writers who keep saying this crap and getting everybody all worked up.


Kinda wrong. The Cardinals have no problem putting it on the jumbo screen during commercials between innings. Plus the stupid attention whore sign guy down the right field line who shows up for national TV games.

But in reality a lot of Cardinal fans throw the "best fans in baseball" thing around as sarcasm; including me.
 
2014-08-26 10:35:26 AM  

Mateorocks: skinink: I haven't been to the new Yankee Stadium. Is it that mediocre? I'd thought something built so recently would be one of the top AL parks.

I love the new ballpark. The atrium is particularly nice. Get past the history, and the old park was filthy.


Plus the old Yankee stadium was 90% gut rehabbed in the 1970's. At least to me there was no history there.
 
2014-08-26 10:50:05 AM  
Listen, I think we should just realize how much better we have it now than we did in the 1980s. I mean, sure, there was Fenway, and Wrigley. But we also had Baltimore Memorial Stadium, Arlington Stadium, Three Rivers, Riverfront, Busch, the Astrodome, Atlanta-Fulton County, the Kingdome...

I could go on. Point is, appreciate how much better we have it now.
 
2014-08-26 11:24:10 AM  

styckx: 6. Philadelphia (Citizens Bank Park): Passionate fans help create a fun environment and the stadium isn't bad. The location isn't great, though.

Truer words.. The park is awesome.. The location is shiat.. I've lived here all my life and the area around the parks has always been an oasis of parking lots and industry. I remember when the Spectrum went, and then when Veterans Stadium left there was all this bullshiat talk of building up the area with places to eat and shop.. The only farking thing we got is the Xfinity Live

/would still murder someone for Old Bay fries at Chickie's and Pete's


Completely agree.  Granted, I'm probably biased, but I like the stadium itself better than both PNC and At&T (among others).  But the location is brutal.  Sure, it's easily accessible by car, but good luck getting out of the parking lot after the game.  And you'll definitely want to get back in your car after the game because there is an absolute dearth of things to do around there.  I really wanted them to pick one of the downtown locations they were scouting.  A shame too, because the facility is top notch, but cannot compete with those others as far as location/scenery is concerned.


ginandbacon:

My beef with it is that you really shouldn't call it a park. It's a stadium. If anything happens in there besides baseball, it's not a park even if the corporate masters want it called such.

I don't get it.  A handful of concerts in there every year disqualifies it from being called a park?
 
2014-08-26 11:34:49 AM  

ginandbacon: styckx: 6. Philadelphia (Citizens Bank Park): Passionate fans help create a fun environment and the stadium isn't bad. The location isn't great, though.

Truer words.. The park is awesome.. The location is shiat.. I've lived here all my life and the area around the parks has always been an oasis of parking lots and industry. I remember when the Spectrum went, and then when Veterans Stadium left there was all this bullshiat talk of building up the area with places to eat and shop.. The only farking thing we got is the Xfinity Live

/would still murder someone for Old Bay fries at Chickie's and Pete's

My beef with it is that you really shouldn't call it a park. It's a stadium. If anything happens in there besides baseball, it's not a park even if the corporate masters want it called such.

Camden Yards is a farking jewel. Janet Marie Smith (who saved Fenway) convinced the city to keep the design small and tightly knit and beautifully married to the existing neighborhood. Its groundskeeper, Nicole McFadyen, is a complete lunatic genius who is probably the best in the business these days.

The concessions could be better, but honestly, if you're going to a game for food, you're doing it wrong.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Smith can do with Dodger Stadium. She's a true fan and a brilliant developer.

Fenway will always be first in my heart though.


There's plenty of places in walking distance to eat at also. Grab a bite pre-game and walk right in for the game.
 
2014-08-26 11:46:04 AM  

styckx: 6. Philadelphia (Citizens Bank Park): Passionate fans help create a fun environment and the stadium isn't bad. The location isn't great, though.

Truer words.. The park is awesome.. The location is shiat.. I've lived here all my life and the area around the parks has always been an oasis of parking lots and industry. I remember when the Spectrum went, and then when Veterans Stadium left there was all this bullshiat talk of building up the area with places to eat and shop.. The only farking thing we got is the Xfinity Live

/would still murder someone for Old Bay fries at Chickie's and Pete's


They're still talking about it. Xfinity live is the test run. If it survives the rest might be phased in.

Of the handful of parks I've been to (trying to make it to all)

1. PNC and Camden
2. Philadelphia
3. New yanks
4. Houston
5. Washington
 
2014-08-26 11:56:28 AM  
If you've ever had the misfortune of reading the LA Times sports section recently, you'll realize how bad it's gotten. I bet they're dinging Dodger Stadium b/c of the TV deal, which they wrote about, day after day, for weeks on end, in the (sad) misconception that the LA Times sports page was powerful enough to do anything.
 
2014-08-26 12:00:56 PM  

p the boiler: Oh, I get it - let's hate on The Cell (worst park in the AL) - let's hate on Hawk (worst announcer in baseball) - FFS - I get it.

The Cell is actually a very nice park once it went through the renovations. Yes I miss Old Comiskey - but that is just my childhood speaking.

Can I get an article about how much better Cubs fans are now?

/need to go back to bed
//the chip on my shoulder, can you see it?


The Cell isn't bad, but it it is bland.  Since most of the shiat parks were replaced in the last twenty years, merely being "not bad" means that there are a lot of better ballparks out there.  Which of the AL parks listed above it do you think are worse than US Cellular?

On a side note, it seems weird that New Yankee Stadium is listed so high since so many fans biatch about it.  I don't know if the ranking is justified since I've never been there, though.
 
2014-08-26 12:01:03 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: A handful of concerts in there every year disqualifies it from being called a park?


Yup.
 
2014-08-26 12:17:29 PM  

llortcM_yllort: On a side note, it seems weird that New Yankee Stadium is listed so high since so many fans biatch about it. I don't know if the ranking is justified since I've never been there, though.


I think when it comes to that stadium, the saying 'your mileage may vary' really is the best you can do. I've only been there once, in April 2013, against the Blue Jays. It was a good experience - nice crowd and OK seats for the price. A friend of mine went this summer to see a game against the Red Sox and had a horrible experience. (For instance, he complained about waiting online forever for beer, something I didn't bother with.) Odds are it was more expensive and it was hotter, which can make a person miserable.

So I guess it depends on a lot of factors. I thought the park was really nice (you'd hope, what with it being new) but I also haven't been to a ton of other parks to make a good comparison. (Shea back in the day, Citifield, and numerous minor league parks. Citifield is probably nicest I've seen.)
 
2014-08-26 12:22:11 PM  

Dougie AXP: styckx: 6. Philadelphia (Citizens Bank Park): Passionate fans help create a fun environment and the stadium isn't bad. The location isn't great, though.

Truer words.. The park is awesome.. The location is shiat.. I've lived here all my life and the area around the parks has always been an oasis of parking lots and industry. I remember when the Spectrum went, and then when Veterans Stadium left there was all this bullshiat talk of building up the area with places to eat and shop.. The only farking thing we got is the Xfinity Live

/would still murder someone for Old Bay fries at Chickie's and Pete's

They're still talking about it. Xfinity live is the test run. If it survives the rest might be phased in.

Of the handful of parks I've been to (trying to make it to all)

1. PNC and Camden
2. Philadelphia
3. New yanks
4. Houston
5. Washington


Xfinity Live was originally supposed to be part of a much larger casino/hotel complex that was downsized once the recession hit.  Of course plans to expand are still under consideration, but in the end it's still all going to be geared towards the ESPN Fanzone, Dave & Busters, or any other modern entertainment complex type of fluff.  Don't get me wrong, there's certainly room and an audience for that, but the surrounding neighborhood is still going to pale in comparison to other downtown parks where the local bars, restaurants, etc. have more of an organic presence and sense of community.


ginandbacon: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: A handful of concerts in there every year disqualifies it from being called a park?

Yup.


No offense, but that seems dumb.  They've always been called ballparks and I don't seem to recall one (past or present) that never hosted a single even that was not a baseball game.
 
2014-08-26 12:24:00 PM  

BunkoSquad: Pittsburgh is as phenomenally beautiful as everyone says it is. It's definitely my favorite.


Being a native, I never understood why everyone thought PNC park was so great.  Yeah, it was a step up from Three RIvers Stadium, but it was still just a ball park...
...
...
Then I got to visit some other parks (Phillies, Rangers, Cardinals, Reds, Indians, Rays, Marlins, and Braves).  Now I understand.  The angled seats alone make the game 95% more enjoyable.  Something that small, you don't even realize how awesome it is until you go somewhere that doesn't have them.
 
2014-08-26 12:38:45 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: No offense, but that seems dumb. They've always been called ballparks and I don't seem to recall one (past or present) that never hosted a single even that was not a baseball game.


I don't know why I would take offense. I didn't come up with it. Camden Yards is an actual ballpark. The only thing that happens there is baseball.
 
2014-08-26 12:38:50 PM  
12. Washington (Nationals Park): Fans watching from the upper deck get a bonus view of the Capitol rotunda, a scene to enjoy while you're eating your Shake Shack burger.

Technically you get a view of the Capitol dome, not the rotunda.  To see the rotunda, you need to be in the building.   http://www.aoc.gov/capitol-buildings/capitol-rotunda

/Bonus points for spelling Capitol right, though.
 
2014-08-26 12:38:57 PM  
Where did San Diego land on this list? I cannot see the article with my phone.
 
2014-08-26 12:51:40 PM  

ginandbacon: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: No offense, but that seems dumb. They've always been called ballparks and I don't seem to recall one (past or present) that never hosted a single even that was not a baseball game.

I don't know why I would take offense. I didn't come up with it. Camden Yards is an actual ballpark. The only thing that happens there is baseball.


Calling your dumb idea dumb is something that would offend most people, especially those prone to dumb ideas. If a stadium is built primarily as a place for baseball it's a ballpark. If they just happen to use it for other things while A) the team is on the road, or B) it's the offseason, that doesn't make it not a ballpark. That's idiotic. That's like saying a theater isn't a theater anymore because they also use it for a town hall meeting.
 
2014-08-26 01:00:42 PM  

ginandbacon: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: No offense, but that seems dumb. They've always been called ballparks and I don't seem to recall one (past or present) that never hosted a single even that was not a baseball game.

I don't know why I would take offense. I didn't come up with it. Camden Yards is an actual ballpark. The only thing that happens there is baseball.


I think you did.

And it's not like Camden Yards has never hosted an event other than baseball.
 
2014-08-26 01:20:21 PM  
If you have a 40,000-seat stadium and you only use it for baseball, you're an idiot.
 
2014-08-26 01:25:30 PM  
I'll take "It smells like a toilet, is annoying to navigate, and you're gonna get stabbed" for $1000, Alex.
 
2014-08-26 01:29:25 PM  
Also, any baseball stadium without a retractable roof built after 2000, anywhere other than San Diego is a travesty. Guaranteeing that a game will be played should be concern number 1.
 
2014-08-26 01:51:22 PM  

p the boiler: Oh, I get it - let's hate on The Cell (worst park in the AL) - let's hate on Hawk (worst announcer in baseball) - FFS - I get it.

The Cell is actually a very nice park once it went through the renovations. Yes I miss Old Comiskey - but that is just my childhood speaking.

Can I get an article about how much better Cubs fans are now?

/need to go back to bed
//the chip on my shoulder, can you see it?


No, there were two others listed worse than Cellular Field in the article, under the picture:Tampa Bay and Oakland. And Oakland deserves to be at the bottom of the list; Chicago may have The Cell, but the Colosseum actually feels like you're in a prison.

NetOwl: Where did San Diego land on this list? I cannot see the article with my phone.


PetCo tied for 5th overall and 3rd in the National League.
 
2014-08-26 01:59:24 PM  

roc6783: Also, any baseball stadium without a retractable roof built after 2000, anywhere other than San Diego is a travesty. Guaranteeing that a game will be played should be concern number 1.


Are you saying that Los Angeles is a part of San Diego?

The number of rainouts at Dodger Stadium since 1962 = 17.

FYI Los Angeles and San Diego are not the same city.
 
2014-08-26 02:03:06 PM  

imspartacus: roc6783: Also, any baseball stadium without a retractable roof built after 2000, anywhere other than San Diego is a travesty. Guaranteeing that a game will be played should be concern number 1.

Are you saying that Los Angeles is a part of San Diego?

The number of rainouts at Dodger Stadium since 1962 = 17.

FYI Los Angeles and San Diego are not the same city.


There haven't been any baseball stadiums built in LA since 2000. Which is why he used San Diego.
 
2014-08-26 02:05:48 PM  

IAmRight: imspartacus: roc6783: Also, any baseball stadium without a retractable roof built after 2000, anywhere other than San Diego is a travesty. Guaranteeing that a game will be played should be concern number 1.

Are you saying that Los Angeles is a part of San Diego?

The number of rainouts at Dodger Stadium since 1962 = 17.

FYI Los Angeles and San Diego are not the same city.

There haven't been any baseball stadiums built in LA since 2000. Which is why he used San Diego.


OOPS: My bad
 
2014-08-26 02:29:08 PM  

roc6783: Also, any baseball stadium without a retractable roof built after 2000, anywhere other than San Diego is a travesty. Guaranteeing that a game will be played should be concern number 1.


Nope. No way. I've been to Milwaukee and Phoenix and am not impressed with their retractable roof places.
 
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