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(Yahoo)   Prescription painkiller deaths fall in medical marijuana states almost 25%   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 107
    More: Interesting, clinical practice, painkillers, JAMA Internal Medicine, health crisis, cause of death, marijuana laws  
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2014-08-25 08:07:53 PM  
*ancient aliens gesture*

Opioids.
 
2014-08-25 08:09:18 PM  
Don't you mean "OBVIOUS" ?
 
2014-08-25 08:17:19 PM  
Wouldn't removing acetaminophen from opioid pills work just as well as making marijuana available?
 
2014-08-25 08:18:11 PM  
FTA: "Researchers aren't sure why..."

Researchers from the O'Reilly Oceanographic Institute?
 
2014-08-25 08:34:13 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: Wouldn't removing acetaminophen from opioid pills work just as well as making marijuana available?


considering the article said opiod overdoses fell 25% I'm gonna say....no
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-08-25 08:49:32 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: Wouldn't removing acetaminophen from opioid pills work just as well as making marijuana available?


Well, it might help the liver function of those hooked on hydrocodone (Vicodin), but the good stuff doesn't have acetaminophen, already.  Dilaudid, Morphine, Oxycodone/contin, Heroin, none have acetaminophen.

While this statistic is encouraging, I am reticent to draw any conclusions just yet.
 
2014-08-25 09:06:01 PM  
The totals are dropping because they're being...weeded out.
 
2014-08-25 09:07:16 PM  
Really? I can get a prescription for heroin?
 
2014-08-25 09:08:04 PM  
So a common plant, that god made- and yet Christians and Conservatives see as evil- could really impact the pharmaceutical industry?

I am on board. Sign me up.
 
2014-08-25 09:09:16 PM  
Dude... what?
 
2014-08-25 09:16:38 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-08-25 09:20:42 PM  

Nadie_AZ: So a common plant, that god made- and yet Christians and Conservatives see as evil- could really impact the pharmaceutical industry?

I am on board. Sign me up.


I have to believe the alcohol and tobacco industries knew this was coming, will embrace it and have a plan to get richer beyond what even they have imagined possible.
 
2014-08-25 09:23:52 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: Wouldn't removing acetaminophen from opioid pills work just as well as making marijuana available?


shh.
 
2014-08-25 09:24:34 PM  
Post hoc ergo propter hoc?
 
2014-08-25 09:41:18 PM  
This is... actually pretty cool, and I hope it gets a closer look.


People are starting to get very tired of spending huge amounts on incarceration, usually at the cost of the things we *want* from our taxes - well-maintained roads, good schools, street lights, and storm drains.

Unfortunately, the companies that make big money from incarceration and the like have a very direct interest in maintaining those revenue streams - and they can buy shiatloads of airtime and ink to "educate" voters (tax-deductible thanks to Citizens United!) to make sure they don't actually do so.
 
2014-08-25 09:50:37 PM  
Of course those stats can't be because of the feds cracking down on over prescribers over the same period of time.

/which they have
//and continue to do
///trust me, people still love their opioids .
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-08-25 10:18:54 PM  

Nadie_AZ: So a common plant, that god made- and yet Christians and Conservatives see as evil- could really impact the pharmaceutical industry?


A plant like the opium poppy, the coca plant, tobacco, kratom, or the vodka melon?
 
2014-08-25 10:22:35 PM  

433: Nadie_AZ: So a common plant, that god made- and yet Christians and Conservatives see as evil- could really impact the pharmaceutical industry?

A plant like the opium poppy, the coca plant, tobacco, kratom, or the vodka melon?


Yes.
 
2014-08-25 10:31:27 PM  

433: Nadie_AZ: So a common plant, that god made- and yet Christians and Conservatives see as evil- could really impact the pharmaceutical industry?

A plant like the opium poppy, the coca plant, tobacco, kratom, or the vodka melon?



The vodka melon is a superfood. It makes quinoa look like sawdust.
 
2014-08-25 10:35:40 PM  

Snarfangel: 433: Nadie_AZ: So a common plant, that god made- and yet Christians and Conservatives see as evil- could really impact the pharmaceutical industry?

A plant like the opium poppy, the coca plant, tobacco, kratom, or the vodka melon?


The vodka melon is a superfood. It makes quinoa look like sawdust.


I thought everyone knew this.
 
2014-08-25 11:03:32 PM  
That's unpossible, I was informed by many gov't studies that Maryjuanana smoking was deadlier than mainlining them Heroins.

Imagine, pain control without fatal side effects.  It's almost like a miracle.

But it's got to be a fault in the study, because I know from DARE...
 
2014-08-25 11:04:00 PM  
I see that the article completely glossed over the figures on the annual death rates from marijuana. They've probably skyrocketed.
 
2014-08-25 11:06:58 PM  

HawgWild: Post hoc ergo propter hoc?


That's why the article very carefully didn't claim to say why, just to report the interesting and research-worthy fact
 
2014-08-25 11:09:08 PM  

ElLoco: I see that the article completely glossed over the figures on the annual death rates from marijuana. They've probably skyrocketed.


Yep. There are thousands of times as many. In Spokane and Denver they've given up on removing the bodies. They just pile them up and burn them in the streets.
 
2014-08-25 11:11:24 PM  

anuran: ElLoco: I see that the article completely glossed over the figures on the annual death rates from marijuana. They've probably skyrocketed.

Yep. There are thousands of times as many. In Spokane and Denver they've given up on removing the bodies. They just pile them up and burn them in the streets.



Wait, are you telling me that smell isn't...bacon?
 
2014-08-25 11:12:54 PM  
This should surprise no one.
 
2014-08-25 11:20:25 PM  
All I know is that it is helping my parents.
 
2014-08-25 11:22:17 PM  
Well I can't tell you how late I stayed up last night, trying to go to sleep but couldn't just thinking about all the prescription painkiller deaths.
 
2014-08-25 11:26:18 PM  
And yet

Marijuana is a schedule I drug under the Controlled Substance Act passed by the Congress in 1970. A schedule I drug is a dangerous substance that has no recognized medical use and that has a high potential for abuse. In addition to marijuana, heroin, LSD and ecstasy are schedule I substances.

Reschedule the goddamn stuff already, ffs.
 
2014-08-25 11:37:13 PM  

Nadie_AZ: So a common plant, that god made- and yet Christians and Conservatives see as evil- could really impact the pharmaceutical industry?

I am on board. Sign me up.


God also made poison ivy, kudzu, stinging nettle, jumping cholla, jimson weed, and hogweed. Do you smoke any of those plants to piss off the hypocritical Christians who are against them?
 
2014-08-25 11:38:27 PM  

anuran: ElLoco: I see that the article completely glossed over the figures on the annual death rates from marijuana. They've probably skyrocketed.

Yep. There are thousands of times as many. In Spokane and Denver they've given up on removing the bodies. They just pile them up and burn them in the streets.


As I suspected. This chart confirms it. Note that the Y-axis in incremented not in hundreds, but in thousands to track death rates. Thousands.

img.fark.net

One can only imagine the numbers once data for 2013 and 2014 are compiled after all this legalization bullshiat.
 
2014-08-25 11:39:30 PM  
So, given all the actual scholarly papers about weed and LSD, why haven't they automatically been rescheduled? They don't fit the Sch1 definition.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-08-25 11:43:32 PM  
Could someone also link to statistics from other states concerning opiate/opioid related deaths from other states?
 
2014-08-25 11:44:34 PM  

433: itcamefromschenectady: Wouldn't removing acetaminophen from opioid pills work just as well as making marijuana available?

Well, it might help the liver function of those hooked on hydrocodone (Vicodin), but the good stuff doesn't have acetaminophen, already.  Dilaudid, Morphine, Oxycodone/contin, Heroin, none have acetaminophen.

While this statistic is encouraging, I am reticent to draw any conclusions just yet.


I once put a firecracker in a bullfrog's mouth.  Blew it's farking head off!
 
2014-08-25 11:47:04 PM  

bmwericus: That's unpossible, I was informed by many gov't studies that Maryjuanana smoking was deadlier than mainlining them Heroins.

Imagine, pain control without fatal side effects.  It's almost like a miracle.

But it's got to be a fault in the study, because I know from DARE...



Drugs are bad umk!?
 
2014-08-25 11:48:26 PM  

ElLoco: I see that the article completely glossed over the figures on the annual death rates from marijuana. They've probably skyrocketed.


[notsureifserious.jpg]
 
2014-08-25 11:49:03 PM  

HawgWild: Post hoc ergo propter hoc?


TRANSLATION:  In politics and the media, when one thing follows another, a causal connection is immediately assumed and almost never questioned.

And I suppose your stupid statistics professor taught you something different?

fallacyaday.com
 
2014-08-25 11:51:54 PM  

spiritplumber: So, given all the actual scholarly papers about weed and LSD, why haven't they automatically been rescheduled? They don't fit the Sch1 definition.


Because that would require politicians who actually care about truth.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-08-25 11:52:10 PM  

HalfOffOffer: I once put a firecracker in a bullfrog's mouth. Blew it's farking head off!


Yes, yes, and Kathleen Turner has big farking tits.  Do you have something to say?
 
2014-08-25 11:54:01 PM  
My best friend and sometimes lover in college injected 3 whole marijuanas in college and now they're dead!

IS THAT THE FUTURE YOU WANT, LIBTARDS!?
 
2014-08-25 11:54:53 PM  
Pills are increasingly harder to obtain. New hospital/Pharm regs are a biatch
 
2014-08-25 11:55:06 PM  
Makes sense. Labeling makes it easier to find their strains and most of those people don't want to be on a list for a plant in the first place.
 
2014-08-25 11:56:33 PM  

HawgWild: Post hoc ergo propter hoc?


I don't see how.
 
2014-08-26 12:00:50 AM  
WHY are They hiding the Awful Truth about...

MARIJUANA OVERDOSES!!!!??


We need a nice oil painting of Jesus sticking His mouth in front of the poor, desperate junkie's face, taking that bong hit so the junkie can be spared.
 
2014-08-26 12:01:13 AM  

Gyrfalcon: HawgWild: Post hoc ergo propter hoc?

I don't see how.


More like Dans dubium tribunal iudicum
 
2014-08-26 12:02:14 AM  
Marijuana, what will your mother think when she finds your corpse?
 
2014-08-26 12:02:18 AM  

jfarkinB: WHY are They hiding the Awful Truth about...

MARIJUANA OVERDOSES!!!!??

We need a nice oil painting of Jesus sticking His mouth in front of the poor, desperate junkie's face, taking that bong hit so the junkie can be spared.


img.wonkette.com
 
2014-08-26 12:06:09 AM  
Causation or chronication?
 
2014-08-26 12:06:38 AM  
Mmmmm, green leafy substance.

AKA freak chow.
 
2014-08-26 12:10:13 AM  

basemetal: Of course those stats can't be because of the feds cracking down on over prescribers over the same period of time.

/which they have
//and continue to do
///trust me, people still love their opioids .


FTFA:  Meanwhile, opioid overdose deaths across the country increased dramatically, from 4,030 in 1999 to 16,651 in 2010

Overdoses went down in medical marijuana states and up in the rest.
 
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