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2014-08-25 07:52:21 PM  
People watch other people playing video games? And that's worth a billion dollars?
 
2014-08-25 08:10:17 PM  

Flint Ironstag: People watch other people playing video games? And that's worth a billion dollars?


I'm bewildered by this as well.
 
2014-08-25 08:10:54 PM  

Flint Ironstag: People watch other people playing video games? And that's worth a billion dollars?


50,000,000 people a month and yes.
 
2014-08-25 08:11:15 PM  

Flint Ironstag: People watch other people playing video games? And that's worth a billion dollars?


You'd be amazed.

I suck at most games, but enjoy playing anyway, so I occasionally fire up twitch to see how the big kids do it, Dota2 you can learn alot from watching... Civ 5, notsomuch, a lot of screen zooming around as is the norm for Civ games, but the audio of the players is sometimes fun.

Elsewhere, getting better at a game or learning a new style of gameplay is important, or watching how a new game really looks before you drop a lot of money on it.

I for one used to think youtube was inane, part of it still is, but when you're modding a PC or cracking open a device for repair the first time, youtube is invaluable for having something detailed demonstrated to you. I imaging for gaming, twitch serves much of the same purpose.

Also if TL;DR: Ad Impressions.
 
2014-08-25 08:12:10 PM  

Flint Ironstag: People watch other people playing video games? And that's worth a billion dollars?


There's millions of kids now who don't have any friends because their parents never got them off the computer.

This is the closest thing to having friends.
 
2014-08-25 08:47:29 PM  

Flint Ironstag: People watch other people playing video games? And that's worth a billion dollars?


http://www.esportsearnings.com/

shiat's real, yo
 
2014-08-25 08:56:43 PM  
I remember when twitch was just a small part of justintv, i didn't watch those channels on there either, but just sayin get off my digital lawn.
 
2014-08-25 08:59:41 PM  

Flint Ironstag: People watch other people playing video games? And that's worth a billion dollars?


People watch other people play real sports, card games and so on.
 
2014-08-25 09:20:32 PM  

the_sidewinder: Flint Ironstag: People watch other people playing video games? And that's worth a billion dollars?

People watch other people play real sports, card games and so on.


I watch Lewis Hamilton drive a car that costs a couple hundred million dollars a year to put onto the track, dicing with death with twenty other of the worlds best drivers. And Pastor Maldonado. I just don't think watching some kids play video games is in the same league.
 
2014-08-25 09:29:16 PM  
I've only ever used Twitch to watch Retronauts play old NES and Genesis games. It's pretty cool and the guys are very funny.
 
2014-08-25 09:29:50 PM  
I watch The Gaming Lemon on YouTube. He doesn't just play the game, he creates his own stories. It's actually fun.

And he's just a kid! Like 18 or something.

I also watch speedyw03. His crew has some funny moments.
 
2014-08-25 09:43:02 PM  

Flint Ironstag: People watch other people playing video games? And that's worth a billion dollars?


Watching Charles Winsmore is pretty entertaining.

What blows my mind, is how much these cats can make doing this.  I watched that dude rake in over $200 in less than an hour.  Over $500 in less than 4 hours.  Playing freaking video games and making funny comments.
 
2014-08-25 09:49:24 PM  

corq: I for one used to think youtube was inane, part of it still is, but when you're modding a PC or cracking open a device for repair the first time, youtube is invaluable for having something detailed demonstrated to you. I imaging for gaming, twitch serves much of the same purpose.


Instruction videos are just a plain old bad idea and always have been. With a video you keep having to pause and go back on any complicated set of instructions. A website is the perfect form of remote instruction but for some reason people have figured out how to edit video rather than how to make a website.
 
2014-08-25 10:16:55 PM  

timujin: Flint Ironstag: People watch other people playing video games? And that's worth a billion dollars?

50,000,000 people a month and yes.


50,000,000 people play cards every month. That doesn't make the playing card industry worth billions.

Gambling however.......
 
2014-08-25 10:17:59 PM  
The real question is: how can Amazon afford this?
 
2014-08-25 10:25:03 PM  

Flint Ironstag: People watch other people playing video games?


I watched someone play Minecraft on YouTube more than I care to admit when I first got the game in Alpha.  But it didn't come with much instruction.
 
2014-08-25 10:31:12 PM  

b2theory: The real question is: how can Amazon afford this?


They had Prime
 
2014-08-25 10:42:44 PM  
It can be 'real' but that doesn't mean it's any better than other sports, which is to say it's a bunch of sponsors pandering crap merchandise to idiot fans arguing over who is reel guud at clicking.

Being able to stream gaming is neat, watching/learning what people are doing is neat, the fact it's turning in to the new hyper commercialism is sad. I was hoping for something different. Foolish, I know.

Go buy your Razer crapware.
 
2014-08-25 10:46:04 PM  
And everybody who loves Twitch can breath a little easier.
Google would have killed it dead with rules.
Amazon may let it be.
Hope
 
2014-08-25 10:48:47 PM  
www.twitch.tv/alinity

You are welcome.
 
2014-08-25 10:54:52 PM  

Flint Ironstag: People watch other people playing video games? And that's worth a billion dollars?


I must admit, the Awesome Games Done Quick annual marathon for charity is some jaw dropping shiat.

/like the guy who got all the way to Mike Tyson in Punchout.... blindfolded.
 
2014-08-25 10:58:44 PM  

Flint Ironstag: People watch other people playing video games? And that's worth a billion dollars?


So much this.

The only time I've ever watched a video of a game is when I was stuck with something and need to see how to get past it, or maybe where to find collectibles. It's hard to fathom people so board that they would just sit and watch some random person as they play a game.
 
2014-08-25 10:59:08 PM  
My Twitch watchlist

Protonjon
Lucahjin
newLegacyInc
papatvpinball

/actually no, my user name has nothing to do with Twitch.tv
 
2014-08-25 11:15:07 PM  
Does Twtch have any videos of people playing The Stanley Parable?
 
2014-08-25 11:15:46 PM  

the_sidewinder: b2theory: The real question is: how can Amazon afford this?

They had Prime


They saved a bundle using the free shipping.
 
2014-08-25 11:20:43 PM  

tinyarena: And everybody who loves Twitch can breath a little easier.
Google would have killed it dead with rules.
Amazon may let it be.
Hope


I hope Amazon brings the rules back to before Twitch was cleaning itself up.

And I use Twitch only for a couple people that I was a fan of, or friends with, through things other than Twitch. It lets you interact with them, or just watch what your friend is doing while chatting with them. Its like when you would go over to a friends house as a kid and watch them play a single player game, except now you can do it on opposite ends of the country.
 
2014-08-25 11:22:15 PM  

moothemagiccow: corq: I for one used to think youtube was inane, part of it still is, but when you're modding a PC or cracking open a device for repair the first time, youtube is invaluable for having something detailed demonstrated to you. I imaging for gaming, twitch serves much of the same purpose.

Instruction videos are just a plain old bad idea and always have been. With a video you keep having to pause and go back on any complicated set of instructions. A website is the perfect form of remote instruction but for some reason people have figured out how to edit video rather than how to make a website.


It's not making a website that is the problem, it's that making graphics and detailed pictures is difficult and time consuming. Not everyone learns by reading a wall of text about the problem. A lot of people just like seeing what it really looks like in real life and watching another human being go through the motions. Video is the perfect instruction method for many people, though perhaps not you.
 
2014-08-25 11:25:52 PM  
Can you watch people play solitaire?
 
2014-08-25 11:29:29 PM  
Honestly, I'd rather watch professional Dota 2 than football or nascar.
 
2014-08-25 11:38:32 PM  
Watching other people play video games is for people that ran out of quarters and don't want to leave the mall yet.
 
2014-08-25 11:39:01 PM  
Can you look over peoples shoulders while they are reading?
 
2014-08-25 11:48:32 PM  
People have gotten video of their kid dancing to a song on the radio taken down by youtube for copyright infringement.

Do you really think companies like EA are going to let people develop a Billion dollar business based on their intellectual property without getting a cut?

If Amazon buys them, expect instantaneous lawsuits.
 
2014-08-25 11:50:44 PM  

Twitch Boy: Lucahjin


I love her.
 
2014-08-25 11:56:56 PM  
Anytime Amazon buys a site over Google, they may not ruin it. Never been to Twitch and don't care, but Google ruined youtube and everything else they touch anymore.
 
2014-08-25 11:59:03 PM  

BullBearMS: People have gotten video of their kid dancing to a song on the radio taken down by youtube for copyright infringement.

Do you really think companies like EA are going to let people develop a Billion dollar business based on their intellectual property without getting a cut?

If Amazon buys them, expect instantaneous lawsuits.


EA themselves take advantage of Twitch, indirectly at the very least.

I wouldn't be so concerned.
 
2014-08-26 12:03:24 AM  

John Dewey: www.twitch.tv/alinity

You are welcome.


Ouch, my heart! Thank you so very, very much!

Goddammit she's cute:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjMCVgjMrfM
 
2014-08-26 12:08:19 AM  

Flint Ironstag: the_sidewinder: Flint Ironstag: People watch other people playing video games? And that's worth a billion dollars?

People watch other people play real sports, card games and so on.

I watch Lewis Hamilton drive a car that costs a couple hundred million dollars a year to put onto the track, dicing with death with twenty other of the worlds best drivers. And Pastor Maldonado. I just don't think watching some kids play video games is in the same league.


haha hhah hah h haha hahahaha hahah
u watch some tools drive around in a circle and complain about people watching video games?
HAHA HAHA HA HAH AHAH HAHAH

seriously
all entertainment is exactly the same
what I like, I like
doesnt matter if you like it
not one POS

not that I would watch either of these

but then, I pay good money to watch professional squash, so what do I know?!
 
2014-08-26 12:09:18 AM  

Flint Ironstag: People watch other people playing video games? And that's worth a billion dollars?


People watch reality TV.

// I watch twitch on occassion. It makes decent background noise while I'm doing something else.

// What I've noticed is that some games will rocket up to the top of the viewership list when something interesting is going on (EX, beta of a new game that not everyone has access to, or some geeky thing like twitch plays pokemon, or a tournament going on). Then it just goes back to status quo.

// like corq said, the interest level differs from game to game, some games are interesting (to me) to watch, others, not so much.

// I watched a lot of bananasaurus rex when he was doing regular spleunky runs.
 
2014-08-26 12:09:38 AM  

Nemo's Brother: Anytime Amazon buys a site over Google, they may not ruin it. Never been to Twitch and don't care, but Google ruined youtube and everything else they touch anymore.


Amazon isn't perfect here either. They bought Woot and made it crappier and too complicated. Also they've done almost nothing with some of the defunct brand names they own including Webvan and Egghead Software.
 
2014-08-26 12:10:33 AM  
So Drew is cleaning Fark up so he doesn't have to sell to Amazon?
 
2014-08-26 12:11:48 AM  

moothemagiccow: corq: I for one used to think youtube was inane, part of it still is, but when you're modding a PC or cracking open a device for repair the first time, youtube is invaluable for having something detailed demonstrated to you. I imaging for gaming, twitch serves much of the same purpose.

Instruction videos are just a plain old bad idea and always have been. With a video you keep having to pause and go back on any complicated set of instructions. A website is the perfect form of remote instruction but for some reason people have figured out how to edit video rather than how to make a website.


There are times where a moving visual is better than still images; particularly with complicated assembly / removal of something where still images can't adequately convey what needs to be done.  That said I do agree that text / picture is easier to deal with in regards to following along; and wish video instructions were limited to JUST the complicated / weird parts.
 
2014-08-26 12:12:02 AM  

BullBearMS: People have gotten video of their kid dancing to a song on the radio taken down by youtube for copyright infringement.

Do you really think companies like EA are going to let people develop a Billion dollar business based on their intellectual property without getting a cut?

If Amazon buys them, expect instantaneous lawsuits.


LOL what?
you do know that there are billions of hours of people playing games out there, right?
on youtube, and everything else ....

any one with the game can run fraps or the same and record and publish ...

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
not even sure what they would be suing over .... 
TOS? meh
 
2014-08-26 12:14:03 AM  

MrEricSir: Nemo's Brother: Anytime Amazon buys a site over Google, they may not ruin it. Never been to Twitch and don't care, but Google ruined youtube and everything else they touch anymore.

Amazon isn't perfect here either. They bought Woot and made it crappier and too complicated. Also they've done almost nothing with some of the defunct brand names they own including Webvan and Egghead Software.


strange
they bought up the competition, maybe to get licenses, maybe just to kill it ... nothing new
 
2014-08-26 12:22:03 AM  

namatad: not even sure what they would be suing over ....


The same thing the RIAA sues over.
 
2014-08-26 12:27:59 AM  
if you thin aili-whatever has a rockin bod, kaceytron might do it for you also

http://www.twitch.tv/kaceytron
 
2014-08-26 12:31:58 AM  
I was wondering why Twitch had suddenly created an app for Android devices a month or two ago. Now it makes sense. They were flirting with Google and Amazon. Amazon's devices run Android of course.

I don't use Twitch a lot, but I do sometimes when I'm bored or if I'm thinking of buying a new game I'll watch other people play it to see if I like it. It's a bit more honest and unvarnished than watching a demo or a game journalist play.
 
2014-08-26 12:34:00 AM  

skinink: Does Twtch have any videos of people playing The Stanley Parable?


I do know that people speedrun all endings of that game. Look on Reddit /speedrun to find some.

Ishkur: Flint Ironstag: People watch other people playing video games? And that's worth a billion dollars?

I must admit, the Awesome Games Done Quick annual marathon for charity is some jaw dropping shiat.

/like the guy who got all the way to Mike Tyson in Punchout.... blindfolded.


sinister1 is awesome, but zallard1 is better by beating Super Punch Out blindfolded at the same event. So amazing.
 
2014-08-26 12:39:41 AM  

tinyarena: And everybody who loves Twitch can breath a little easier.
Google would have killed it dead with rules.
Amazon may let it be.
Hope


Google would have forced everyone to sign up for Google+
 
2014-08-26 12:48:03 AM  

Flint Ironstag: People watch other people playing video games? And that's worth a billion dollars?


Instagram for gamers. Remember when people thought, "People look at pictures of other people's meals?" Yeah. It's that stupid.
 
2014-08-26 12:49:11 AM  

skinink: Does Twtch have any videos of people playing The Stanley Parable?


Yes and no.
 
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