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(Deadspin)   MLS' method of assigning where prize free agents will play can be charitably described as EENY MEENY MINEY MOE   (deadspin.com) divider line 43
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2014-08-25 04:45:10 PM  
If MLS wants to be the league of choice for the world's best players, it'd better start allowing those players to choose their situations.

MLS owners would pale in horror if they believed that is what the league wants to become.
 
2014-08-25 06:02:44 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: If MLS wants to be the league of choice for the world's best players, it'd better start allowing those players to choose their situations.

MLS owners would pale in horror if they believed that is what the league wants to become.


What do the owners want it to become?
 
2014-08-25 06:08:04 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: If MLS wants to be the league of choice for the world's best players, it'd better start allowing those players to choose their situations.

MLS owners would pale in horror if they believed that is what the league wants to become.


That's what's annoying to me about a lot of mid-level sports coverage. The assumption seems to be that these leagues want to take over and be the top league. At this point they just want to keep being profitable and grow steadily without pissing away all the money that the European teams do.

And let's remember that one of the playoff tiebreakers in the NFL and NFL draft is a coin flip, so it's not like it's ridiculous.
 
2014-08-25 06:14:06 PM  

Decillion: rumpelstiltskin: If MLS wants to be the league of choice for the world's best players, it'd better start allowing those players to choose their situations.

MLS owners would pale in horror if they believed that is what the league wants to become.

What do the owners want it to become?



A league that operates under the same rules as every other sports league in America, corporate socialism with government subsidized stadiums and almost guaranteed profits!
The worst nightmare of MLS is ownership that only cares about winning, not profits!
 
2014-08-25 06:18:23 PM  

IAmRight: rumpelstiltskin: If MLS wants to be the league of choice for the world's best players, it'd better start allowing those players to choose their situations.

MLS owners would pale in horror if they believed that is what the league wants to become.

That's what's annoying to me about a lot of mid-level sports coverage. The assumption seems to be that these leagues want to take over and be the top league. At this point they just want to keep being profitable and grow steadily without pissing away all the money that the European teams do.

And let's remember that one of the playoff tiebreakers in the NFL and NFL draft is a coin flip, so it's not like it's ridiculous.


Yeah, so let's let the league decide where the players go! That's just like a playoff tiebreaker!

Oh, wait, no it's not.

I get that you have your tongue fully up MLS, whatever.
 
2014-08-25 06:25:29 PM  

oh_please: Yeah, so let's let the league decide where the players go! That's just like a playoff tiebreaker!


The NBA's been doing this for years.

/I don't care about MLS
//I do work for a single-entity league, however
 
2014-08-25 06:27:50 PM  
BUT I would say that if you're going to pick things in a non-sport related way, it should be something more fun. Perhaps a rap battle between owners; fans vote but they don't know what the rap battle is for.
 
2014-08-25 06:30:12 PM  

Decillion: rumpelstiltskin: If MLS wants to be the league of choice for the world's best players, it'd better start allowing those players to choose their situations.

MLS owners would pale in horror if they believed that is what the league wants to become.

What do the owners want it to become?


Profitable.
 
2014-08-25 06:34:13 PM  
If MLS wants to be considered bush league on the world stage then by all means, continue to act bush league.  If MLS wants to be a premier destination then perhaps start operating like the other elite leagues in the world.  Just ask Mr. Diskerud for his feelings on the league's player acquisition rules.
 
2014-08-25 06:35:45 PM  

IAmRight: oh_please: Yeah, so let's let the league decide where the players go! That's just like a playoff tiebreaker!

The NBA's been doing this for years.

/I don't care about MLS
//I do work for a single-entity league, however


Dude, I'm not even what could be considered a regular here, but from your posts I've seen, you are so in love with MLS. Maybe it's the fact that you work for an underdog league, I get that. But don't say "I don't care about MLS", because you're lying.
 
2014-08-25 06:38:01 PM  

oh_please: IAmRight: rumpelstiltskin: If MLS wants to be the league of choice for the world's best players, it'd better start allowing those players to choose their situations.

MLS owners would pale in horror if they believed that is what the league wants to become.

That's what's annoying to me about a lot of mid-level sports coverage. The assumption seems to be that these leagues want to take over and be the top league. At this point they just want to keep being profitable and grow steadily without pissing away all the money that the European teams do.

And let's remember that one of the playoff tiebreakers in the NFL and NFL draft is a coin flip, so it's not like it's ridiculous.

Yeah, so let's let the league decide where the players go! That's just like a playoff tiebreaker!

Oh, wait, no it's not.

I get that you have your tongue fully up MLS, whatever.


Do you believe that Jermaine Jones adamantly despised the idea of playing for New England? That makes no sense to me. If the MLS were forcing him to go there and he absolutely refused to play for the Rev, he could have just told the MLS to fark off and signed with a European team.
 
2014-08-25 06:43:09 PM  
Slow sports tab day and 3 footie threads?

Jeez.
 
2014-08-25 07:03:07 PM  
No MLS fan I know actually believes this was a random coin flip.

Chicago got Garbered, hard.

It's been known for a while now that any time The Don wants a free agent to be someplace, all existing rules turn into Calvinball.
 
2014-08-25 07:10:08 PM  

Generation_D: No MLS fan I know actually believes this was a random coin flip.

Chicago got Garbered, hard.

It's been known for a while now that any time The Don wants a free agent to be someplace, all existing rules turn into Calvinball


Grant Wahl @GrantWahl  3m
Asked MLS source why no blind draw for Dempsey/Bradley. He claimed only one team fit all the conditions/interest to get each one. Really?
 
2014-08-25 07:16:00 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: Decillion: rumpelstiltskin: If MLS wants to be the league of choice for the world's best players, it'd better start allowing those players to choose their situations.

MLS owners would pale in horror if they believed that is what the league wants to become.

What do the owners want it to become?

Profitable.


Define "profitable", though. There's the kind of profitable where you have a good quarter, and then focus on the next quarter's numbers. And then there is the kind where you sustain it over the long term.

MLS at 20 is in a better position than the NFL or NBA were in at the same age.
 
2014-08-25 07:20:15 PM  

GQueue: Generation_D: No MLS fan I know actually believes this was a random coin flip.

Chicago got Garbered, hard.

It's been known for a while now that any time The Don wants a free agent to be someplace, all existing rules turn into Calvinball

Grant Wahl @GrantWahl  3m
Asked MLS source why no blind draw for Dempsey/Bradley. He claimed only one team fit all the conditions/interest to get each one. Really?


The conditions Big Don decided had to be met at that particular moment. I know that Portland thought it had Dempsey's allocation rights. Nope, no allocation.

The lack of transparency is going to keep pissing people off. As a Sounder fan I'm thrilled we got Dempsey, but you don't hold these super secret handshake deals to put players on teams. All leagues that do that crap will fail.
 
2014-08-25 07:30:55 PM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: If MLS wants to be a premier destination then perhaps start operating like the other elite leagues in the world.


Do the NFL and NBA count as elite leagues, albeit in a different spot?

Look, for competitiveness sake, I can see the fun of being like La Liga/EPL/Serie A.

On the other side, every team outside the top 3-5 in any of those leagues is flirting with bankruptcy on a year-in-year-out basis.

I liked Aurelien Colin's quote on the difference between playing in MLS and playing in not-quite-top-team Europe.  "You know, in MLS, the checks don't bounce".
 
2014-08-25 07:33:05 PM  
Teams should not be like individual companies, there should be parity. I like it.
 
2014-08-25 08:02:22 PM  
If you support this, you're insane. It's that simple.

The MLS is a joke and awful to watch
 
2014-08-25 08:07:15 PM  

Gonz: rumpelstiltskin: Decillion: rumpelstiltskin: If MLS wants to be the league of choice for the world's best players, it'd better start allowing those players to choose their situations.

MLS owners would pale in horror if they believed that is what the league wants to become.

What do the owners want it to become?

Profitable.

Define "profitable", though. There's the kind of profitable where you have a good quarter, and then focus on the next quarter's numbers. And then there is the kind where you sustain it over the long term.

MLS at 20 is in a better position than the NFL or NBA were in at the same age.


The structure of the league has always been about financial viability, and the owners know there is no way they can compete for world class talent with leagues that have five times their revenue. That has never been part of MLS' strategy. And like you say, the strategy is working. Most teams are profitable.
 
2014-08-25 08:35:49 PM  

Lawnchair: I liked Aurelien Colin's quote on the difference between playing in MLS and playing in not-quite-top-team Europe. "You know, in MLS, the checks don't bounce".


Yeah, for being the world's most popular sport, most professional leagues around the world are so poorly ran and financed, the MLS is automatically considered an "okay" destination by default.
 
2014-08-25 08:59:31 PM  
Did they open the other envelope to prove that Chicago's name was in it?
 
2014-08-25 09:54:18 PM  
I'm not much of a Fire fan, but how hard they got jobbed in this really blows. Especially considering that this team needs star power to attract interest and maybe get a piece to build around (though JJ at 32 probably isn't a future cornerstone). The Fire are unwatchable, unfindable, and uninteresting and at 4-6-14 they are an embodiment of the worst of the soccer jokes leveled by the Simpsons: ties, Ties, TIES!

/subby
//yearns for the glory days of Frank Klopas
///and Karl-Heinz Granitza, but that's going way back to the NASL days
 
2014-08-25 11:41:14 PM  

germ78: I'm not much of a Fire fan, but how hard they got jobbed in this really blows. Especially considering that this team needs star power to attract interest and maybe get a piece to build around (though JJ at 32 probably isn't a future cornerstone). The Fire are unwatchable, unfindable, and uninteresting and at 4-6-14 they are an embodiment of the worst of the soccer jokes leveled by the Simpsons: ties, Ties, TIES!

/subby
//yearns for the glory days of Frank Klopas
///and Karl-Heinz Granitza, but that's going way back to the NASL days


As a former Philadelphia Union season ticket holder who now lives in Chicago and just got back from a trip to Seattle and Portland today, you can REALLY see the rift in organizational quality between teams in the league despite the financial parity.  ...and I have to say, the Fire are at the very bottom.

Seattle:  Sounders gear EVERYWHERE in the city.  For obvious reasons they're not as ubiquitous as the Seahawks right now, but WAY more sounders stuff than Mariners gear out in public.

Philly:  Chances are if you're a soccer fan in Philly, you're a Union fan.

Chicago:  I get surprised when I see Fire gear anywhere in the city... and that includes the fact that I work for a major sponsor of the team. Hell, this city has a massive supporters club for farking Spurs of all teams, but I've seen more Columbus crew gear today than Fire stuff since I've gotten home.


/as for the JJ situation, the Fire are too much of a trainwreck for Jones to really make a difference right now.  New England are just a few pieces short of being decent, especially in the East.  And Jones agreed to the deal, bizarre as it was, so it's not like this is going to scare away future players.  Guy's getting paid.
 
2014-08-26 12:25:31 AM  
Did they randomly choose LA for Beckham?
 
2014-08-26 01:05:47 AM  

Longtime Lurker: germ78: I'm not much of a Fire fan, but how hard they got jobbed in this really blows. Especially considering that this team needs star power to attract interest and maybe get a piece to build around (though JJ at 32 probably isn't a future cornerstone). The Fire are unwatchable, unfindable, and uninteresting and at 4-6-14 they are an embodiment of the worst of the soccer jokes leveled by the Simpsons: ties, Ties, TIES!

/subby
//yearns for the glory days of Frank Klopas
///and Karl-Heinz Granitza, but that's going way back to the NASL days

As a former Philadelphia Union season ticket holder who now lives in Chicago and just got back from a trip to Seattle and Portland today, you can REALLY see the rift in organizational quality between teams in the league despite the financial parity.  ...and I have to say, the Fire are at the very bottom.

Seattle:  Sounders gear EVERYWHERE in the city.  For obvious reasons they're not as ubiquitous as the Seahawks right now, but WAY more sounders stuff than Mariners gear out in public.

Philly:  Chances are if you're a soccer fan in Philly, you're a Union fan.

Chicago:  I get surprised when I see Fire gear anywhere in the city... and that includes the fact that I work for a major sponsor of the team. Hell, this city has a massive supporters club for farking Spurs of all teams, but I've seen more Columbus crew gear today than Fire stuff since I've gotten home.


/as for the JJ situation, the Fire are too much of a trainwreck for Jones to really make a difference right now.  New England are just a few pieces short of being decent, especially in the East.  And Jones agreed to the deal, bizarre as it was, so it's not like this is going to scare away future players.  Guy's getting paid.


The stadium in the suburbs really kills the Fire. They're more Bridgeview's team than Chicago's. Part of the reason the MLS is demanding Miami get a downtown stadium, or they don't get a team.

The best thing the Fire could do is invest heavily in its academy system. They've got an exclusive region of twenty million or more to draw talent from- teams around the world would kill for that.

OTOH, it's very cool to see Robert Kraft finally start to put some money into the Revs after years of neglect.
 
2014-08-26 01:39:10 AM  

Pimparoo: The stadium in the suburbs really kills the Fire. They're more Bridgeview's team than Chicago's.


Absolutely this. That stadium is a nightmare to get to unless you live near it. No mass transit access, no direct interstate access (which is a killer for me since I'm way up in the north burbs).
 
2014-08-26 01:57:04 AM  

germ78: Pimparoo: The stadium in the suburbs really kills the Fire. They're more Bridgeview's team than Chicago's.

Absolutely this. That stadium is a nightmare to get to unless you live near it. No mass transit access, no direct interstate access (which is a killer for me since I'm way up in the north burbs).


I live in Wisconsin. When I went to a Fire game... well, first off, Bridgeview shouldn't even count as Chicago. Or even a suburb of Chicago. They might as well have put the stadium in the middle of a cornfield. Second, when I first got there, I attempted to locate the entrance to the parking lot and somehow wound up in the train yard next door.

Third, seriously? Just one sad little Mexican restaurant across the street (which requires a Sherpa expedition to actually reach)? Get farked. Give me some actual options. God's sake, the Brewers stuck themselves in the middle of a vast sea of parking lots and they had enough sense to at least stick a TGI Friday's at one of the entrances.
 
2014-08-26 02:09:25 AM  

Longtime Lurker: germ78: I'm not much of a Fire fan, but how hard they got jobbed in this really blows. Especially considering that this team needs star power to attract interest and maybe get a piece to build around (though JJ at 32 probably isn't a future cornerstone). The Fire are unwatchable, unfindable, and uninteresting and at 4-6-14 they are an embodiment of the worst of the soccer jokes leveled by the Simpsons: ties, Ties, TIES!

/subby
//yearns for the glory days of Frank Klopas
///and Karl-Heinz Granitza, but that's going way back to the NASL days

As a former Philadelphia Union season ticket holder who now lives in Chicago and just got back from a trip to Seattle and Portland today, you can REALLY see the rift in organizational quality between teams in the league despite the financial parity.  ...and I have to say, the Fire are at the very bottom.

Seattle:  Sounders gear EVERYWHERE in the city.  For obvious reasons they're not as ubiquitous as the Seahawks right now, but WAY more sounders stuff than Mariners gear out in public.

Philly:  Chances are if you're a soccer fan in Philly, you're a Union fan.

Chicago:  I get surprised when I see Fire gear anywhere in the city... and that includes the fact that I work for a major sponsor of the team. Hell, this city has a massive supporters club for farking Spurs of all teams, but I've seen more Columbus crew gear today than Fire stuff since I've gotten home.


/as for the JJ situation, the Fire are too much of a trainwreck for Jones to really make a difference right now.  New England are just a few pieces short of being decent, especially in the East.  And Jones agreed to the deal, bizarre as it was, so it's not like this is going to scare away future players.  Guy's getting paid.


You reference the corporate juggernaut but nothing about PDX?

/Go Timbers
//No corporate sponsored and approved TIFO here
 
2014-08-26 02:09:27 AM  

IAmRight: oh_please: Yeah, so let's let the league decide where the players go! That's just like a playoff tiebreaker!

The NBA's been doing this for years.

/I don't care about MLS
//I do work for a single-entity league, however


The NBA secretly planned LeBron's move to Miami and the future return to Cleveland? Genius!

/no, really, tee shirt revenue alone probably was a half a billion.
 
2014-08-26 02:23:42 AM  
Meh.  You should see how FIFA assigns officials to World Cup matches.
 
2014-08-26 07:46:01 AM  
Seeing this late, but I don't think that this will be the long-term situation. The MLS wants to be, first and foremost, an ongoing, stable institution. To do that in a nation where many other professional soccer leagues have come and gone, they need to remain profitable and stable. From a fan's perspective, this sort of blows, but it's not entirely unheard of in other leagues (remember, Stern blocked the Chris Paul trade to the Lakers a few years ago for "basketball reasons" which some say was trying to keep more parity in the league.

The NFL is nearly 100 years old. NBA is nearly 70. MLB is well over 100 years old, NHL is nearly 100. The MLS is barely 20 years old now. Their goal is to grow and stabilize, and become a true fifth league (that challenges the other leagues for fan attention and revenue). Once that happens you may begin to see some loosening of the league restraints, but until then the league's primary goal will be smart, controlled growth. In England, the top clubs vacuum up a huge percentage of TV rights, and the smaller clubs try to make do with a fraction of what's left over. This is a few years old, but it shows the financial disparity between the top clubs and others in the Premier League alone. With promotion/relegation, the divide is even more stark outside the Premier League, and teams struggle just to stay liquid. Here's an incomplete list of British Football Clubs that have entered administration (similar to bankruptcy) in roughly the last 25 years.
 
2014-08-26 08:06:41 AM  

Langston: Seeing this late, but I don't think that this will be the long-term situation. The MLS wants to be, first and foremost, an ongoing, stable institution. To do that in a nation where many other professional soccer leagues have come and gone, they need to remain profitable and stable. From a fan's perspective, this sort of blows, but it's not entirely unheard of in other leagues (remember, Stern blocked the Chris Paul trade to the Lakers a few years ago for "basketball reasons" which some say was trying to keep more parity in the league.

The NFL is nearly 100 years old. NBA is nearly 70. MLB is well over 100 years old, NHL is nearly 100. The MLS is barely 20 years old now. Their goal is to grow and stabilize, and become a true fifth league (that challenges the other leagues for fan attention and revenue). Once that happens you may begin to see some loosening of the league restraints, but until then the league's primary goal will be smart, controlled growth. In England, the top clubs vacuum up a huge percentage of TV rights, and the smaller clubs try to make do with a fraction of what's left over. This is a few years old, but it shows the financial disparity between the top clubs and others in the Premier League alone. With promotion/relegation, the divide is even more stark outside the Premier League, and teams struggle just to stay liquid. Here's an incomplete list of British Football Clubs that have entered administration (similar to bankruptcy) in roughly the last 25 years.


I would love to see relegation in the NFL. That would make things very interesting for the week 15 game between Miami and Buffalo
 
2014-08-26 08:18:09 AM  

Koman Coulibaly: Meh.  You should see how FIFA assigns officials to World Cup matches.


Golf clap!!!


This does suck for the Fire. I'm a Sounders fan here in Philly and can't wait to see them play the Union here in a few weeks for the US Open Cup.  I follow the Union and watch their games as well because i want them to be good. They should be awesome with a great stadium and great fan support. Chicago needs to pump money into their academy and hope to attract some talent.
 
2014-08-26 08:57:40 AM  

Crewmannumber6: I would love to see relegation in the NFL. That would make things very interesting for the week 15 game between Miami and Buffalo


Fun for us to watch, but a disaster for the NFL. Stadiums are too expensive; the owners would never go for it. The sport that it actually makes the most sense in is the MLB, since they have a well developed AAA system with existing teams. I know I'd actually love to watch a relegation scrap with the Rangers, Rockies and Astros scrambling to stay alive while the Syracuse Chiefs, Memphis Redbirds, and the Columbus Clippers made a run for promotion to the MLB.
 
2014-08-26 10:54:15 AM  

germ78: yearns for the glory days of Frank Klopas
///and Karl-Heinz Granitza, but that's going way back to the NASL days


Don't forget Batata
 
2014-08-26 11:00:10 AM  
This is no different from how the NBA treats new players in the draft.  Doesn't matter if you're a seasoned pro overseas - if it's your first time joining the NBA you go into the draft and whoever gets the lucky number can draft you first, second, third, etc. as your talent deserves.

Allowing players to choose destination is silly and nobody does it.  The team trades the player, not the other way around. Otherwise you just end up with everyone worth anything jammed into a couple of super-teams and everyone else has a barren wasteland of nobodies with no hope of winning.
 
2014-08-26 11:06:42 AM  

Pimparoo: The best thing the Fire could do is invest heavily in its academy system. They've got an exclusive region of twenty million or more to draw talent from- teams around the world would kill for that.


And a massive Mexican immigrant population along with all those suburban kids in leagues. It'd be nutso for them to miss out on the next Brian McBride or a possibly great Mexican local because of not putting enough into their academy. I hope they're doing it.

Gosling: Third, seriously? Just one sad little Mexican restaurant across the street (which requires a Sherpa expedition to actually reach)? Get farked. Give me some actual options. God's sake, the Brewers stuck themselves in the middle of a vast sea of parking lots and they had enough sense to at least stick a TGI Friday's at one of the entrances.


And of course, a brewery opened not too far from there... but has very limited hours for their taproom so it isn't really workable as a pregame destination either.

The one thing Bridgeview does have (mostly on or just off of Harlem, some outside of Bridgeview) is some of the best middle eastern food you'll find anywhere. Of course, being largely Muslim-owned and operated they do not serve alcohol.
 
2014-08-26 12:43:37 PM  

whither_apophis: The NBA secretly planned LeBron's move to Miami and the future return to Cleveland? Genius!


Hell, they put him in Cleveland in the first place in 2003.

Langston: The sport that it actually makes the most sense in is the MLB, since they have a well developed AAA system with existing teams. I know I'd actually love to watch a relegation scrap with the Rangers, Rockies and Astros scrambling to stay alive while the Syracuse Chiefs, Memphis Redbirds, and the Columbus Clippers made a run for promotion to the MLB.


The problem with this is that the major league teams own those AAA teams so really you'd end up with two of one MLB team's players in MLB and none of another. Also, call-ups would be weird.

cefm: Allowing players to choose destination is silly and nobody does it.  The team trades the player, not the other way around. Otherwise you just end up with everyone worth anything jammed into a couple of super-teams and everyone else has a barren wasteland of nobodies with no hope of winning.


It's called free agency and people do it. BUT the rest is mostly accurate unless you have a restrictive salary cap. Even then it's not as effective as controlling things from the league level.
 
2014-08-26 02:19:05 PM  
The main issue with "relegation" in US sports is it isn't what team owners bought into.

It doesn't "make sense" with MLB (to at least do it with AAA) because many of the AAA markets aren't really "Major league" markets (Des Moines, etc), and didn't pay to be an MLB team market..... and the Des Moines Cubs don't have the revenues to pay MLB salaries.

You possibly could split up the NL & AL into a "Relegation" system, making one the higher level than the other, but, by doing that at any one time you've devalued half the leagues teams, which the owners won't accept.  Yes, both are still in the "majors", but, you've created a system where 15 teams at any one time are for a complete season considered "lower" than the other 15.   Some might say we already have a system where "big market" teams are already seen as "above" the small market teams.   You could make that argument, but, owners still won't go for making that "official".

Euro soccer leagues have just done this for so long, that it is just "accepted" and the teams know it coming in.   Not the case here, as "cool" as some people think it would be.
 
2014-08-26 05:57:19 PM  

germ78: Pimparoo: The stadium in the suburbs really kills the Fire. They're more Bridgeview's team than Chicago's.

Absolutely this. That stadium is a nightmare to get to unless you live near it. No mass transit access, no direct interstate access (which is a killer for me since I'm way up in the north burbs).


This. The booze buses from the bars are a great idea, but those should be more of a cool way to get there than what they are...i.e. the only easy way to get there if you don't drive.
 
2014-08-26 06:05:23 PM  

Gosling: Bridgeview shouldn't even count as Chicago. Or even a suburb of Chicago. They might as well have put the stadium in the middle of a cornfield.


The location does in fact suck balls, but...LOLWUT? Bridgeview is in Cook County, and it's 5 miles from Midway and 10 miles from the center of Chicago. It's practically an extension of the city proper. I think you drove to Rockford and no one had the heart to tell you.
 
2014-08-26 09:09:12 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Gosling: Bridgeview shouldn't even count as Chicago. Or even a suburb of Chicago. They might as well have put the stadium in the middle of a cornfield.

The location does in fact suck balls, but...LOLWUT? Bridgeview is in Cook County, and it's 5 miles from Midway and 10 miles from the center of Chicago. It's practically an extension of the city proper. I think you drove to Rockford and no one had the heart to tell you.


LOL, was about to say... it isn't even west of 294!

/used to live on the Fox River 30 years ago, which used to be "the middle of a cornfield", but, is pretty built up now
 
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