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(Talking Points Memo)   NBC News president hired Chuck Todd to make Meet the Press "edgier"   (talkingpointsmemo.com ) divider line
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2014-08-25 11:54:49 AM  
I guess it depends what "edgier" means in this context.  Is edgier code for asking tougher questions and pressing for an answer, or is it using "hip language" and incorporating twitter hashtags before commercial breaks?
 
2014-08-25 12:02:06 PM  
so chuck todd is the new "poochie?"
 
2014-08-25 12:49:08 PM  
Compared to Gregory, Todd is 100% edgier.
 
2014-08-25 12:52:16 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Compared to Gregory, Todd is 100% edgier.


I watched it occasionally, but David 'softball' Gregory had as much edge as a bowl of jello.
 
2014-08-25 01:29:16 PM  
He has a goatee. That's edgier than no goatee.
 
2014-08-25 01:44:23 PM  

Nabb1: He has a goatee. That's edgier than no goatee.


mmm... no.
 
2014-08-25 01:45:50 PM  

unyon: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Compared to Gregory, Todd is 100% edgier.

I watched it occasionally, but David 'softball' Gregory had as much edge as a bowl of jello.


I agree.  Tim Russert used to be the toughest interview in Washington.  It would be good to see that kind of "no-bullshiat" stance again.
 
2014-08-25 01:46:32 PM  

FlashHarry: Nabb1: He has a goatee. That's edgier than no goatee.

mmm... no.


What if he goes with a Fu Manchu? A soul patch? Some really awesome pork chop sideburns?
 
2014-08-25 02:31:55 PM  
Will the interviewees be able to opt for the Physical Challenge instead?
 
2014-08-25 02:41:45 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Will the interviewees be able to opt for the Physical Challenge instead?


Or maybe a right to Trial by Combat, with no option to choose a champion?  I'd be willing to bet there are lots of people who would pay good money to see Paul Ryan get the crap beat out of him
 
2014-08-25 03:00:15 PM  
As somebody who has seen the Sunday shows, but doesn't regularly watch them, I don't think they'll ever get back to the glory days of Russert.  My general feeling is that the Sunday shows used to be important to politicians that wanted to get a message out.  If you were important, and wanted to speak to the country, you went on Meet the Press.  Now, you can choose your venue.  Why would you go on MtP when you could go on Chris Wallace on Fox? Or one of the dozens of other shows (conservative or liberal) that won't ask you hard questions?  When Russert died, the allure of MtP died, and it will never be the same.  Bringing in someone who asks tough questions just means they won't get the guests.  They have to ask softballs or no one will go on.
 
2014-08-25 03:01:11 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Compared to Gregory, Todd is 100% edgier.


Compared to Gregory, mashed potatoes are 100% edgier.
 
2014-08-25 03:18:17 PM  

Nabb1: FlashHarry: Nabb1: He has a goatee. That's edgier than no goatee.

mmm... no.

What if he goes with a Fu Manchu? A soul patch? Some really awesome pork chop sideburns?


He needs a fez.  Or maybe a fedora.  :D
 
2014-08-25 03:31:50 PM  

Nabb1: He has a goatee. That's edgier than no goatee.


Maybe some tats and a respectable goatee, like John Stanton.

www.washingtonian.com

Face off!

www.msnbc.com
 
2014-08-25 03:31:54 PM  
I was hoping for Maddow
 
2014-08-25 03:33:22 PM  
I really thought Gregory was a good choice, but yeah no.
 
2014-08-25 03:34:44 PM  
Nancy Pelosi v Elizabeth Warren in mashed potato wrestling?
 
2014-08-25 03:36:53 PM  
Everybody knows how successful executive's efforts at rebranding to become "edgier" work...

img2.wikia.nocookie.net
Catch you on the flip side, dudemeisters!
 
2014-08-25 03:37:36 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: As somebody who has seen the Sunday shows, but doesn't regularly watch them, I don't think they'll ever get back to the glory days of Russert.  My general feeling is that the Sunday shows used to be important to politicians that wanted to get a message out.  If you were important, and wanted to speak to the country, you went on Meet the Press.  Now, you can choose your venue.  Why would you go on MtP when you could go on Chris Wallace on Fox? Or one of the dozens of other shows (conservative or liberal) that won't ask you hard questions?  When Russert died, the allure of MtP died, and it will never be the same.  Bringing in someone who asks tough questions just means they won't get the guests.  They have to ask softballs or no one will go on.


Ding ding ding!!!  We have a winnah!!
 
2014-08-25 03:38:39 PM  
By 'edgier' he means 'more sensationalistic', see Fox News
 
2014-08-25 03:39:55 PM  

Nabb1: He has a goatee. That's edgier than no goatee.


Even "edgier" would be a Charlie Chaplin 'tache.  Guaranteed viewer feedback.
 
2014-08-25 03:41:43 PM  
He's placeholding for Rachel Maddow.
 
2014-08-25 03:51:24 PM  
If you interrupt the speaker, it better be only to tell them to quit reading their prepared talking points and answer the question you just asked them.

Any other interruption is offensive.

/except maybe for "How about you take your top off?"
 
2014-08-25 03:52:07 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Tim Russert used to be the toughest interview in Washington.


blogs.loc.gov

Perhaps death has given you a revisionist view of one of NBC's premiere softball tossers. Did "Jack" recently become one of your favorite movies of all time?
 
2014-08-25 04:01:15 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: As somebody who has seen the Sunday shows, but doesn't regularly watch them, I don't think they'll ever get back to the glory days of Russert.  My general feeling is that the Sunday shows used to be important to politicians that wanted to get a message out.  If you were important, and wanted to speak to the country, you went on Meet the Press.  Now, you can choose your venue.  Why would you go on MtP when you could go on Chris Wallace on Fox? Or one of the dozens of other shows (conservative or liberal) that won't ask you hard questions?  When Russert died, the allure of MtP died, and it will never be the same.  Bringing in someone who asks tough questions just means they won't get the guests.  They have to ask softballs or no one will go on.


Nah. People (especially politicians) love TV cameras and will do what it takes to get in front of one.

Many will view a strong MtP as a challenge and doing well on it will be a victory they can use to their advantage. And a fail will just be a "gotcha questions!" whine, so they can score points against the lamestream MSM media.

It's still a win-win for anyone.
 
2014-08-25 04:15:08 PM  

Nabb1: What if he goes with a Fu Manchu? A soul patch? Some really awesome pork chop sideburns?


img.fark.net

this is the only acceptable facial hair for a professional TV question poser.
 
2014-08-25 04:17:53 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Compared to Gregory, Todd is 100% edgier.


He's about as edgy as a Nissan full of Creed fans.
 
2014-08-25 04:26:41 PM  
The next news program to come from NBC:  "News, Anyone?"
 
2014-08-25 04:27:07 PM  
Need to combine this with the previous headline....

NBC News president hired Gary Busey to make Meet the Press "edgier"

Now that's edgy!
 
2014-08-25 04:31:09 PM  

Im_Gumby: Everybody knows how successful executive's efforts at rebranding to become "edgier" work...

[img2.wikia.nocookie.net image 100x185]
Catch you on the flip side, dudemeisters!


It doesn't necessarily have to fail.  In 1971, CBS decided to raise its then non-existent appeal to
young, urban audiences, and to do this, they cancelled every show that appealed primarily to kids,
older people, and rural audiences.  This move gave us "Mary Tyler Moore", "MASH", and "All in the
Family", to name three.  (It also threw "The Beverly Hillbillies", "Ed Sullivan", and  "Green Acres",
to name another three, onto the TV trash heap.)
 
2014-08-25 04:38:48 PM  

EyeballKid: Benevolent Misanthrope: Tim Russert used to be the toughest interview in Washington.

[blogs.loc.gov image 340x180]

Perhaps death has given you a revisionist view of one of NBC's premiere softball tossers. Did "Jack" recently become one of your favorite movies of all time?


USED to be.  I don't deny that in later years he softened up.   But the folks I talked to in Congressional offices years ago used to dread their boss taking a Russert interview.  I'd like to see that again.
 
2014-08-25 04:47:09 PM  

SphericalTime: I guess it depends what "edgier" means in this context.  Is edgier code for asking tougher questions and pressing for an answer, or is it using "hip language" and incorporating twitter hashtags before commercial breaks?


knife fight Q & A
 
2014-08-25 04:47:10 PM  
The one-on-one conversation belongs to a decade ago. We need more of a coffeehouse conversation.

Translation: viewers like it when four people all talk over each other for a few hours every Sunday. Makes them feel like there are Two Sides to The Issues, you know?
 
2014-08-25 04:52:42 PM  
Since David Gregory is as edgy as a bowling ball, yes Chuck Todd will be "edgier" which is like being the skinniest kid at fat camp.  Chuck Todd doesn't have Gregory's pro-GOP bias, but he does have a "inside the beltway conventional wisdom" bias against whatever party holds the White House and might as well be a stenographer for the opposition since he rarely challenges even the most derp filled talking point recital by the people he interviews.

Chris Hayes would have been my choice, as much as I like Rachel Maddow,  Hayes does very well addressing big picture topics on a weekly show where he has time to assemble a decent panel that includes people from several different viewpoints and can do his homework.  His Up with Chris Hayes shows were really good and often featured informative discussions with guests who disagreed with one another on the more in depth analysis of a topic even though they were on the same broad political side and sometimes there was agreement between some of the pro and anti side of a debate  against one of their own.
 
2014-08-25 04:53:46 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: EyeballKid: Benevolent Misanthrope: Tim Russert used to be the toughest interview in Washington.

[blogs.loc.gov image 340x180]

Perhaps death has given you a revisionist view of one of NBC's premiere softball tossers. Did "Jack" recently become one of your favorite movies of all time?

USED to be.  I don't deny that in later years he softened up.   But the folks I talked to in Congressional offices years ago used to dread their boss taking a Russert interview.  I'd like to see that again.


I guess Dick Cheney was actually scarier than we knew. Russert hosting Meet the Press was his preferred venue for justifying his lying us into the Iraq War.

Flashed on the courtroom computer screens were her notes from 2004 about how Cheney could respond to allegations that the Bush administration had played fast and loose with evidence of Iraq's nuclear ambitions. Option 1: "MTP-VP," she wrote, then listed the pros and cons of a vice presidential appearance on the Sunday show. Under "pro," she wrote: "control message."

"I suggested we put the vice president on 'Meet the Press,' which was a tactic we often used," Martin testified. "It's our best format."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/25/AR20 07 012501951.html


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/25/AR20 07 012501951.html
 
2014-08-25 04:53:46 PM  

EyeballKid: Benevolent Misanthrope: Tim Russert used to be the toughest interview in Washington.

[blogs.loc.gov image 340x180]

Perhaps death has given you a revisionist view of one of NBC's premiere softball tossers. Did "Jack" recently become one of your favorite movies of all time?


I agree with this.  I don't remember MtP being a tough interview.  At all.
 
2014-08-25 04:57:49 PM  

Diogenes: Nabb1: He has a goatee. That's edgier than no goatee.

Maybe some tats and a respectable goatee, like John Stanton.

[www.washingtonian.com image 350x526]

Face off!

[www.msnbc.com image 666x327]


Every time I've seen Stanton he's impressed me as intelligent and well informed even when I didn't agree with his opinion.  That's no small praise these days
 
2014-08-25 05:06:54 PM  

Dr Dreidel: The one-on-one conversation belongs to a decade ago. We need more of a coffeehouse conversation.

Translation: viewers like it when four people all talk over each other for a few hours every Sunday. Makes them feel like there are Two Sides to The Issues, you know?


Maybe a happy medium, like McLaughlin Group.  It's kind of like a coffeehouse but only John yells over everyone.

McLaughlin:  Clarence, what do you have to say?

Clarence Page:  As I said in my column, to understand the issue you have to look at the socio-econ....

McLaughlin:  WRONG!  Eleanor?
 
2014-08-25 05:08:14 PM  

stan unusual: Diogenes: Nabb1: He has a goatee. That's edgier than no goatee.

Maybe some tats and a respectable goatee, like John Stanton.

[www.washingtonian.com image 350x526]

Face off!

[www.msnbc.com image 666x327]

Every time I've seen Stanton he's impressed me as intelligent and well informed even when I didn't agree with his opinion.  That's no small praise these days


Yeah, I was only kind of half joking.  Guy's sharp.  Biggest drawback is he works/worked for BuzzFeed.

10 Reasons Why Stanton Should Host MTP -- lol
 
2014-08-25 05:14:06 PM  

Diogenes: McLaughlin: Clarence, what do you have to say?

Clarence Page: As I said in my column, to understand the issue you have to look at the socio-econ....

McLaughlin: WRONG! Eleanor?


I want this clip to replace every YouTube ad.

// view rates would jump above 5%, I know that much...
 
2014-08-25 05:27:55 PM  

Diogenes: Dr Dreidel: The one-on-one conversation belongs to a decade ago. We need more of a coffeehouse conversation.

Translation: viewers like it when four people all talk over each other for a few hours every Sunday. Makes them feel like there are Two Sides to The Issues, you know?

Maybe a happy medium, like McLaughlin Group.  It's kind of like a coffeehouse but only John yells over everyone.

McLaughlin:  Clarence, what do you have to say?

Clarence Page:  As I said in my column, to understand the issue you have to look at the socio-econ....

McLaughlin:  WRONG!  Eleanor?


"The universe: finite or infinite??"
 
2014-08-25 05:29:14 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Will the interviewees be able to opt for the Physical Challenge instead?

Or maybe a right to Trial by Combat, with no option to choose a champion?  I'd be willing to bet there are lots of people who would pay good money to see Paul Ryan get the crap beat out of him


I would tune in every week.
 
2014-08-25 05:32:16 PM  
Tom Brokaw and Peter Jennings were edgier than any of the news operations today. Cronkite and Murrow would scare the shiat out of them.
 
2014-08-25 05:34:17 PM  
*scans headline*

*rapid eye blinks*


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
2014-08-25 05:44:19 PM  

fusillade762: Diogenes: Dr Dreidel: The one-on-one conversation belongs to a decade ago. We need more of a coffeehouse conversation.

Translation: viewers like it when four people all talk over each other for a few hours every Sunday. Makes them feel like there are Two Sides to The Issues, you know?

Maybe a happy medium, like McLaughlin Group.  It's kind of like a coffeehouse but only John yells over everyone.

McLaughlin:  Clarence, what do you have to say?

Clarence Page:  As I said in my column, to understand the issue you have to look at the socio-econ....

McLaughlin:  WRONG!  Eleanor?

"The universe: finite or infinite??"



"PATTY PATTY PUKE PUKE!!!"
 
2014-08-25 06:00:46 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: unyon: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Compared to Gregory, Todd is 100% edgier.

I watched it occasionally, but David 'softball' Gregory had as much edge as a bowl of jello.

I agree.  Tim Russert used to be the toughest interview in Washington.  It would be good to see that kind of "no-bullshiat" stance again.


All of these.  If I want to listen to questions with all the teeth of a tribble I'll watch Morning Joe or Fox and Friends.  At a bare minimum Meet the Press needs to be as hard-hitting as the Daily Show; if your questions are softer than what are asked on a goddamn COMEDY SHOW then you've failed as a journalist.
 
2014-08-25 06:23:56 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Will the interviewees be able to opt for the Physical Challenge instead?

Or maybe a right to Trial by Combat, with no option to choose a champion?  I'd be willing to bet there are lots of people who would pay good money to see Paul Ryan get the crap beat out of him


What Paul Ryan getting the crap beat out of him may look like:
s1.ibtimes.com
 
2014-08-25 06:25:41 PM  

pueblonative: Nancy Pelosi v Elizabeth Warren in mashed potato wrestling?


As long as there is a 100% ban on cameras, I'm okay with this.
 
2014-08-25 06:45:55 PM  
You want edgy?  Put people in the seat that will openly mock Republicans.  No sponsors, no commercials, and keep the cameras rolling when they walk out of the show which they eventually will.
 
2014-08-25 07:14:02 PM  

FlashHarry: Nabb1: He has a goatee. That's edgier than no goatee.

mmm... no.


Compare Spock to Bearded Spock. It holds up.
 
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