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(Huffington Post)   I don't want to alarm anyone, but the Sunday political shows have gone full pants-on-the-head fearmongering over terrorist attacks in the US. Goddammit, I thought we had escaped 2001   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 136
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2014-08-25 08:14:24 AM  
Well you know what? I'm sure every generation of old person has said the same thing about the world ending horribly and they were wrong and the world keeps spinning.

/arguably the best quote from True Detective
 
2014-08-25 08:22:02 AM  
Wait.
There was a time when these shows weren't pants on head retarded?
 
2014-08-25 08:25:04 AM  
The Sunday morning talk shows are the political equivalent of a TotalFark circle jerk.
 
2014-08-25 08:34:27 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The Sunday morning talk shows are the political equivalent of a TotalFark circle jerk.


Except they are a bit better paid for doing it. For some outdated reason.
 
2014-08-25 08:40:50 AM  
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.)
It's about time now to assume the worst about these guys, rather than to underestimating them. They're not the J.V. team anymore.


I know the Jehovah Vitnesses can seem bad, but I think it's a little unfair to compare them to ISIS.
 
2014-08-25 08:52:13 AM  
Elections are coming up so...of course they are.  Every other year will be like this.  We'll have Olympics and we'll have fear mongering.
 
2014-08-25 09:04:00 AM  
You did move on, Subby.
They didn't.

They are just like the middle east.
Doomed to never move on.
 
2014-08-25 09:06:31 AM  
NPR was in on it today it was 30 minutes straight about ISIS before I shut it off. Looks like defense contractors and multinationals think merica needs another hobby war, young lower middle class and poor men you about to get patriotismed .
 
2014-08-25 09:27:21 AM  
Once again, the push for war begins

/And once again, the scared, stupid, and greedy will be all for it
//as a side note, Lindsay Graham doesn't need to be scared to piss his pants
 
2014-08-25 09:29:00 AM  

Headso: NPR was in on it today it was 30 minutes straight about ISIS before I shut it off. Looks like defense contractors and multinationals think merica needs another hobby war, young lower middle class and poor men you about to get patriotismed .


Yep.  We're just greasing the skids at this early stage.
 
2014-08-25 09:31:55 AM  
This just in: Someone, somewhere, is planning to hurt us. If we think bombing the crap out of someplace is likely to make that situation better then we haven't learned anything over the past decade.
 
2014-08-25 09:33:46 AM  
www.mcnees.org
 
2014-08-25 09:41:29 AM  
All I have to say to the News Networks is "As-salamu alaykum "

Ohmagerd terrist words, shut down the airports.

and 9/11 style hijacking will never reoccur. That changed the name of the plane game. Now, if only it weren't so easy to smuggle real weapons onto US planes due to the corruption and incompetence of the TSA. Or you know, attack a security checkpoint during holiday season. Its almost too easy.
 
2014-08-25 10:14:35 AM  

Caffienatedjedi: Or you know, attack a security checkpoint during holiday season. Its almost too easy.


I've never understood why, other than the El Al ticket counter shooting, someone hasn't suicide bombed the massive lines to go through security.

/Note: Don't do this. Really. It's very bad, and totally won't work, anyway. In fact, forget I said anything.
 
2014-08-25 11:33:36 AM  

SilentStrider: Wait. There was a time when these shows weren't pants on head retarded?


Not in the thirty or forty or so years I been watching 'em but I may have missed a few.

Fear mongering in order to prep for war mongering is kind of what these shows do.

See: Lead up to Iraq War.
 
2014-08-25 11:35:54 AM  
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2014-08-25 11:38:01 AM  
In reality, it is super easy to do a terrorism attack against the US, and there isn't much that can be done about it.  I'm frankly surprised we don't see more of them.  I think there have been more FBI concocted ones than real ones in the last 5 years.

I'm just curious who would sign the surrender papers in the War on Terrorism.  With WW2 we had Hitler and the Emperor.  With 'terrorism', it is decentralized and fragmented.
 
2014-08-25 11:39:27 AM  
John McCain: There will be some Americans in danger, particularly our Special Forces people. But look at the alternative, and that's what has to be explained lied about to the American people. And I believe the American people will follow.

When the northern oil fields fell from the Kurds hands (who stole the northern fields from the Iraqi government) to the hands of ISIS, then all the kerfuffle about sending in US troops started. ISIS is terrible. But we are inviting hell upon ourselves. It's too late now anyways. They've already beheaded Americans because of our airstrikes. They will launch attacks in this country because of our airstrikes and other support for the Kurds.

Enjoy your cheap oil. Hope it's worth the hassle.

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2014-08-25 11:39:41 AM  
NPR presented both sides of the Syria situation this morning however, conservative and neoconservative.
 
2014-08-25 11:39:44 AM  
I'm kind of sick of the related "Had Obama not pulled of Iraq we could have killed ISIS early on" meme.  Can't we just pull out completely and just let all these crazy asshats kill each other?
 
2014-08-25 11:41:47 AM  
And I'm sure whoever wins the Republican nomination for the 2016 presidential election will uphold that tradition.
 
2014-08-25 11:41:55 AM  

nmrsnr: Caffienatedjedi: Or you know, attack a security checkpoint during holiday season. Its almost too easy.

I've never understood why, other than the El Al ticket counter shooting, someone hasn't suicide bombed the massive lines to go through security.

/Note: Don't do this. Really. It's very bad, and totally won't work, anyway. In fact, forget I said anything.


Because 99% of terrorist threats against America are just empty rhetoric with no back up. They're a really visible threat but not one that is actually very dangerous. It's just politically useful to use them as our current boogeyman.
 
2014-08-25 11:42:59 AM  

quatchi: SilentStrider: Wait. There was a time when these shows weren't pants on head retarded?

Not in the thirty or forty or so years I been watching 'em but I may have missed a few.

Fear mongering in order to prep for war mongering is kind of what these shows do.

See: Lead up to Iraq War.


It's only until you have lived long enough to see several of these events as an adult, that you realize what the real purpose of things are. "Things" in this case being the mechanisms that historically have been symbols of America's freedom(press, democracy, assembly), are actually facades of what you think they are. What they truly are, and how they are truly used by those in power, is what people need to see for themselves before they stop swallowing everything they're fed.
 
2014-08-25 11:43:14 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: In reality, it is super easy to do a terrorism attack against the US, and there isn't much that can be done about it.  I'm frankly surprised we don't see more of them.  I think there have been more FBI concocted ones than real ones in the last 5 years.

I'm just curious who would sign the surrender papers in the War on Terrorism.  With WW2 we had Hitler and the Emperor.  With 'terrorism', it is decentralized and fragmented.


That's a feature, not a bug.
 
2014-08-25 11:44:40 AM  

DarnoKonrad: NPR presented both sides of the Syria situation this morning however, conservative and neoconservative.


NPR helped push lies the first time around in Iraq, too.

February 4, 2003 Interview: Jeffrey Goldberg Discusses Possible Links Between Iraq and al Qaeda and Evidence That the Iraqis May be Trying to Evade Weapons Inspectors
 
2014-08-25 11:47:41 AM  
I really hope that we do not get involved fully with ISIS.  I could not care less about the bloodshed adverted or caused by such actions.  I just want the Iraq=Vietnam to come to its full conclusion with the fall of Bagdad and helicopters taking off from the US embassy roof.  I even have a nice comfy chair picked out and a few days of vactaion held in reserve just for that eventuality so that I can binge watch the news footage.
 
2014-08-25 11:48:29 AM  
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/I don't believe you
 
2014-08-25 11:49:00 AM  
I haven't seen a boat anywhere in the ISIL/ISIS arsenal, so I'm not really worried.
 
2014-08-25 11:50:10 AM  
these "fearmongers" know things that we don't.  and those "things" that they know are scaring them.
 
2014-08-25 11:51:03 AM  

Saiga410: I really hope that we do not get involved fully with ISIS.  I could not care less about the bloodshed adverted or caused by such actions.  I just want the Iraq=Vietnam to come to its full conclusion with the fall of Bagdad and helicopters taking off from the US embassy roof.  I even have a nice comfy chair picked out and a few days of vactaion held in reserve just for that eventuality so that I can binge watch the news footage.


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That's the CIA headquarters in Saigon. Not the US embassy. Which makes the picture even more fitting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/29/opinion/29van_es.html
 
2014-08-25 11:51:04 AM  
We must be gearing up for another war in the middle east.


Hey, whadda know?
 
2014-08-25 11:51:11 AM  

joonyer: quatchi: SilentStrider: Wait. There was a time when these shows weren't pants on head retarded?

Not in the thirty or forty or so years I been watching 'em but I may have missed a few.

Fear mongering in order to prep for war mongering is kind of what these shows do.

See: Lead up to Iraq War.

It's only until you have lived long enough to see several of these events as an adult, that you realize what the real purpose of things are. "Things" in this case being the mechanisms that historically have been symbols of America's freedom(press, democracy, assembly), are actually facades of what you think they are. What they truly are, and how they are truly used by those in power, is what people need to see for themselves before they stop swallowing everything they're fed.


^^^SO MUCH THIS^^^

Been watching this shiat since the mid-60's, and every time it's the same: "We must stop the spread of [insert boogieman du jour here] before they TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE GLOBE!!!eleventy!"

If there is a solid case for "Both Sides Are Bad" this is it. The GOP loves war because it's good for business. The DNC because they're scared the GOP will call them soft on defense. [doublefacepalm.jpg]
 
2014-08-25 11:52:37 AM  

Stone Meadow: If there is a solid case for "Both Sides Are Bad" this is it. The GOP loves war because it's good for business. The DNC because they're scared the GOP will call them soft on defense. [doublefacepalm.jpg]


Sure, it's "both sides are bad", unless you actually compare foreign policy under administrations of different parties.
 
2014-08-25 11:52:43 AM  
War drums. No matter how many ill-advised wars we stumble into with messy outcomes, the sweet, seductive lure of those drums gets us almost every time.
 
2014-08-25 11:52:48 AM  
Good thing we elected Obama.  We don't have to worry about the US getting involved in civil wars in the Mid east.


Remember when Bush demonized Assad and armed the rebels against him and then started bombing the rebels and providing back-channel support for Assad?  Man those were some dark days
 
2014-08-25 11:55:48 AM  

qorkfiend: Stone Meadow: If there is a solid case for "Both Sides Are Bad" this is it. The GOP loves war because it's good for business. The DNC because they're scared the GOP will call them soft on defense. [doublefacepalm.jpg]

Sure, it's "both sides are bad", unless you actually compare foreign policy under administrations of different parties.



Problem is, "terrorists" don't give a fark which party is on the clock. I'm sure the millions of family members of thise murdered and displaced in Iraq didn't decide to let bygones be bygones just because we switched Presidents. Nor will everyone care what our intentions are NOW. Republican administrations maximize damage and then treat the retaliation of the people who they oppress as justification for their actions.
 
2014-08-25 11:56:01 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: In reality, it is super easy to do a terrorism attack against the US, and there isn't much that can be done about it.  I'm frankly surprised we don't see more of them.  I think there have been more FBI concocted ones than real ones in the last 5 years.

I'm just curious who would sign the surrender papers in the War on Terrorism.  With WW2 we had Hitler and the Emperor.  With 'terrorism', it is decentralized and fragmented.


The US public signed the surrender documents in 2004.  A number of people thought we were ripping those up in 2008, but it turned out we didn't.  We'll know that the War on Terrorism will be over when the NSA is disbanded and no successor agency is established to replace it.  I'm expecting the War on Drugs will end sooner - eventually someone down in Washington will put 2 and 2 together, get 4, and realize a stoned, slightly anxious population is exactly what they want.
 
2014-08-25 11:56:07 AM  
If they want another war, they should demand the draft be reinstated.

A former friend was a pro-military-intervention type. None of his three sons served.
 
2014-08-25 11:56:31 AM  

Stone Meadow: The DNC because they're scared the GOP will call them soft on defense. [doublefacepalm.jpg]


Yeah democrats only support war because they're politically jiiu jitsu'd into it.
 
2014-08-25 11:57:56 AM  
Just as long as there's a boogeyman out there to keep the marks occupied.
 
2014-08-25 11:58:20 AM  

colon_pow: these "fearmongers" know things that we don't.  and those "things" that they know are scaring them.


If every ounce of good faith hadn't been squandered, we might still be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

That day has long passed.  No more "trust us" - no more fabricated evidence and justifications.  If there's a convincing, truthful case to be made, make it.
 
2014-08-25 12:00:27 PM  

AMonkey'sUncle: If they want another war, they should demand the draft be reinstated.

A former friend was a pro-military-intervention type. None of his three sons served.


Tell Mitt I said for him to run again. And to fark off and die.
 
2014-08-25 12:06:17 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.)
It's about time now to assume the worst about these guys, rather than to underestimating them. They're not the J.V. team anymore.

I know the Jehovah Vitnesses can seem bad, but I think it's a little unfair to compare them to ISIS.


Not if they're in Vitness Protection; then they crawl out from under their rock every election year and threadshiat all over this place.
 
2014-08-25 12:06:27 PM  

MugzyBrown: Stone Meadow: The DNC because they're scared the GOP will call them soft on defense. [doublefacepalm.jpg]

Yeah democrats only support war because they're politically jiiu jitsu'd into it.


Which party fully supported the invasion of Iraq? Which party opposed it, and which party called them traitors?

Which party made an invasion of Iran a core plank of their 2008 and 2012 platforms?

But yeah, Democrats obviously support war.
 
2014-08-25 12:07:11 PM  

Headso: NPR was in on it today it was 30 minutes straight about ISIS before I shut it off. Looks like defense contractors and multinationals think merica needs another hobby war, young lower middle class and poor men you about to get patriotismed .


Profits!
Profits!
Profits!
 
2014-08-25 12:07:20 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: That's the CIA headquarters in Saigon. Not the US embassy. Which makes the picture even more fitting.


Surprising that the CIA wouldn't pick a place with extraterritorial legal status for it headquarters.  Every little bit helps.  Defense in depth.
 
2014-08-25 12:10:57 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: That's the CIA headquarters in Saigon. Not the US embassy. Which makes the picture even more fitting.

Surprising that the CIA wouldn't pick a place with extraterritorial legal status for it headquarters.  Every little bit helps.  Defense in depth.


RTFL:  It's where top CIA staff lived
 
2014-08-25 12:11:38 PM  

AMonkey'sUncle: If they want another war, they should demand the draft be reinstated.

A former friend was a pro-military-intervention type. None of his three sons served.


I agree. Lots of kids now a days are pushed into college.

I think raising an army of at least 1 million soldiers to occupy Iraq for a few decades, just might work.
 
2014-08-25 12:11:49 PM  
The hubris of the several far left nihilistic posters above is amazing.
Do I have permission to stack your bodies in front of my position when these crazy basards finally show up?

How do you think crazy shait is prevented? sipping a double latte at starbucks? hardly, it's people sitting around trying to out think a mind blinded by Islamic bloodlust. Do you really think given half a chance these goat farkers would miss an oppertunity to cut the head off every freak in SFO, New York or anywhere else the oppertunity presented its' self?

Keep laughing at those trying to keep you from being the next James Foley, It will help you move to the front of the line for haircuts that start at the neck.
 
2014-08-25 12:12:11 PM  

qorkfiend: Stone Meadow: If there is a solid case for "Both Sides Are Bad" this is it. The GOP loves war because it's good for business. The DNC because they're scared the GOP will call them soft on defense. [doublefacepalm.jpg]

Sure, it's "both sides are bad", unless you actually compare foreign policy under administrations of different parties.


Okay sure, but Democratic Administrations are still running probably 10:1 American KIAs over Republicans over the past half-century. Only since Bubba was Prez have Democratic Presidents acted with restraint in foreign affairs. Don't take me wrong, I vote for and prefer Democrats in charge, and I support Mr Obama's cautious approach to ISIS. I'm just pissed Democrats don't stand up more to the fear-mongering.
 
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