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2014-08-24 06:54:31 PM
EA sues in 3... 2... 1.
 
2014-08-24 08:24:51 PM
Bah. Stuff out of a 3D printer does not smush at all, it is hard as a rock. I know.
 
2014-08-24 08:46:53 PM
As someone who still plays Epic 40k I am excited.
 
2014-08-24 09:55:45 PM
Katamari Damacy?
 
2014-08-24 10:13:12 PM
QUIT HITTING THE TORNADO BUTTON YOU CHUCKLEFARK
 
2014-08-24 10:31:13 PM
Take that, Bowlerama! [stomp] Take that, Convenience Mart! [stomp] Take that, Nuclear Power Plan --[stomp] oh, fiddlesticks.
 
2014-08-24 10:36:07 PM

SockMonkeyHolocaust: As someone who still plays Epic 40k I am excited.


Won't 3D printers pretty much make war game miniature companies obsolete?
 
2014-08-24 10:42:18 PM

Glitchwerks: SockMonkeyHolocaust: As someone who still plays Epic 40k I am excited.

Won't 3D printers pretty much make war game miniature companies obsolete?


Speaking with 0.5% knowledge on the topic, I don't know how much cheaper it would be since there are sooooo many miniatures you have to have to play.
Also, how easy is it to paint on the printed material?
 
2014-08-24 10:48:31 PM
This thread is useless without pics.

static.mnium.org
 
2014-08-24 10:53:48 PM

Empty H: Glitchwerks: SockMonkeyHolocaust: As someone who still plays Epic 40k I am excited.

Won't 3D printers pretty much make war game miniature companies obsolete?

Speaking with 0.5% knowledge on the topic, I don't know how much cheaper it would be since there are sooooo many miniatures you have to have to play.
Also, how easy is it to paint on the printed material?


Paint it in the 3D model, and then have it print in color

I guess get a copy of Mudbox and use it for customizing your miniatures
 
2014-08-24 10:55:30 PM

loonatic112358: Paint it in the 3D model, and then have it print in color


Do 3D printers have that much of a color range yet?  I don't think they'd come close to matching hand-painted models yet.
 
2014-08-24 11:03:56 PM

NeoCortex42: loonatic112358: Paint it in the 3D model, and then have it print in color

Do 3D printers have that much of a color range yet?  I don't think they'd come close to matching hand-painted models yet.


I didn't even know they could print different colors. That is pretty cool


I am assuming it will just come down to people who like to paint and people who don't.
 
2014-08-24 11:09:16 PM

NeoCortex42: loonatic112358: Paint it in the 3D model, and then have it print in color

Do 3D printers have that much of a color range yet?  I don't think they'd come close to matching hand-painted models yet.


Yep, on the pro ones they do, but [painting will still offer patinas, and other details

http://www.3dsystems.com/3d-printers/professional/projet-660pro

http://www.stratasys.com/3d-printers/design-series/precision/objet50 0- connex3
 
2014-08-24 11:09:39 PM
Oh, No! There goes Tokyo!
hill-kleerup.org
 
2014-08-24 11:14:07 PM

NeoCortex42: loonatic112358: Paint it in the 3D model, and then have it print in color

Do 3D printers have that much of a color range yet?  I don't think they'd come close to matching hand-painted models yet.


There's a variety that basically sprays a binder into a powder. By using CMYK binders you basically print colored 3D pixels.

And the little buildings could be made hollow.
 
2014-08-24 11:15:02 PM

Empty H: Glitchwerks: SockMonkeyHolocaust: As someone who still plays Epic 40k I am excited.

Won't 3D printers pretty much make war game miniature companies obsolete?

Speaking with 0.5% knowledge on the topic, I don't know how much cheaper it would be since there are sooooo many miniatures you have to have to play.
Also, how easy is it to paint on the printed material?


3D printed materials are ABS or PLA generally speaking. This means LEGO plastic which isn't insanely paintable. There's also the issue of surfacing the object after printing and more importantly, printing objects in such a way that they can be assembled. many print-in-place items really aren't. Finally, I also happen to paint miniatures (I get a lot from reapermini) and one thing that's absolutely certain is 3D printers do not have the resolution to do the 25x25 (1inx1in.) miniatures used in virtually every game. The nozzle is simply too big. There is a way to tweak the code to take advantage of 200 and 100 micron wide nozzles, but folk are complaining about frequent clogging/rats nest issues.

I've gone through many items on thingiverse and one thing I've learned; Too many people there are "artists" and have absolutely no clue how to design items with the manufacturing process of the item in mind.

NeoCortex42: Do 3D printers have that much of a color range yet? I don't think they'd come close to matching hand-painted models yet.


No. At best you can get two colors at this time. The range of those two colors in a single print is wide as hell, but it's a maximum of two per print. The downside to this is the extra waste that occurs via the purge fences during extrusion (which is necessary). It would be easier to print in a single color, prime and paint as you see fit.
 
2014-08-24 11:17:26 PM

loonatic112358: Yep, on the pro ones they do, but [painting will still offer patinas, and other details


Okay addendum. The desktop models that the 99% can afford have only two colors. THAT thing is a monster and when "request a quote" is placed, you know that thing is going to be 6 or 7 digits large.
 
2014-08-24 11:23:11 PM
Godzilla? You'd have to be a zygote for that subs. Godzilla's not big enough that he could flatten a whole country with one footstep.
 
2014-08-24 11:39:34 PM

Psylent1: Oh, No! There goes Tokyo!
[hill-kleerup.org image 295x308]


Is that by Phil Foglio?
 
2014-08-24 11:44:08 PM

ajgeek: loonatic112358: Yep, on the pro ones they do, but [painting will still offer patinas, and other details

Okay addendum. The desktop models that the 99% can afford have only two colors. THAT thing is a monster and when "request a quote" is placed, you know that thing is going to be 6 or 7 digits large.


Well yea,I mean if yourgoing to spend the money..

You may not want me to spec a computer, I go straight to bc workstations

What i suggest doing is trying to send a model to shapeways or redeye and have them print it on the excessive(I'll let this auto correct sit) machinery. Then the that model and finish it.

Hell if I had the cash I can think of a few services that a great 3d printer could fill, but start up is a bit hard when I still need about 10 k for my existing business
 
2014-08-24 11:45:40 PM
jgray-sfb.com

Awesome!
 
2014-08-24 11:51:51 PM
It makes me wonder if SimCity would be a good board game.  No... really.  I'm already imagining it on my coffee table.
 
2014-08-24 11:53:48 PM

RatMaster999: [jgray-sfb.com image 600x408]

Awesome!


I don't care what kind of game, but I have always preferred the hex system over a grid of measurements.
 
2014-08-24 11:58:09 PM

loonatic112358: ajgeek: loonatic112358: Yep, on the pro ones they do, but [painting will still offer patinas, and other details

Okay addendum. The desktop models that the 99% can afford have only two colors. THAT thing is a monster and when "request a quote" is placed, you know that thing is going to be 6 or 7 digits large.

Well yea,I mean if yourgoing to spend the money..

You may not want me to spec a computer, I go straight to bc workstations

What i suggest doing is trying to send a model to shapeways or redeye and have them print it on the excessive(I'll let this auto correct sit) machinery. Then the that model and finish it.

Hell if I had the cash I can think of a few services that a great 3d printer could fill, but start up is a bit hard when I still need about 10 k for my existing business


I really want to start a fab lab. I absolutely love making stuff and my mechanical engineering/computer engineering experience is giving me perspective on a lot of items that I just wouldn't have as a "business major." People are increasingly wanting one off stuff and that's something that's really hard to come by of late.

My current project is some toolboxes that actually hold up to a passing breeze or a fart in their general vicinity. I'm completely tired of Chinese crap and want something I can rely on for a decade or two.
 
2014-08-24 11:58:34 PM

Koldbern: It makes me wonder if SimCity would be a good board game.  No... really.  I'm already imagining it on my coffee table.


Well if Civilization can be made into a board game or two, why not the Sims
 
2014-08-25 12:00:37 AM

ajgeek: loonatic112358: ajgeek: loonatic112358: Yep, on the pro ones they do, but [painting will still offer patinas, and other details

Okay addendum. The desktop models that the 99% can afford have only two colors. THAT thing is a monster and when "request a quote" is placed, you know that thing is going to be 6 or 7 digits large.

Well yea,I mean if yourgoing to spend the money..

You may not want me to spec a computer, I go straight to bc workstations

What i suggest doing is trying to send a model to shapeways or redeye and have them print it on the excessive(I'll let this auto correct sit) machinery. Then the that model and finish it.

Hell if I had the cash I can think of a few services that a great 3d printer could fill, but start up is a bit hard when I still need about 10 k for my existing business

I really want to start a fab lab. I absolutely love making stuff and my mechanical engineering/computer engineering experience is giving me perspective on a lot of items that I just wouldn't have as a "business major." People are increasingly wanting one off stuff and that's something that's really hard to come by of late.

My current project is some toolboxes that actually hold up to a passing breeze or a fart in their general vicinity. I'm completely tired of Chinese crap and want something I can rely on for a decade or two.


Something like techshop, or just your own machine/ weld and such shop?

Yea I'd do that too
 
2014-08-25 12:07:48 AM

Empty H: RatMaster999: [jgray-sfb.com image 600x408]

Awesome!

I don't care what kind of game, but I have always preferred the hex system over a grid of measurements.


I recently bought a TBS game on Steam and was shocked to find the maps use squares instead of hexes. It makes for some really strange pathfinding.
 
2014-08-25 12:11:20 AM

loonatic112358: Something like techshop, or just your own machine/ weld and such shop?

Yea I'd do that too


There's actually a certification you have to get to be an official fab lab. CNC lathe/mill, 3D printing, wood fabrication and circuit board manufacturing are all required. MIT started it and more or less run the show to be qualified.

The idea is to be able to make almost anything.
 
2014-08-25 12:33:34 AM

ajgeek: Empty H: Glitchwerks: SockMonkeyHolocaust: As someone who still plays Epic 40k I am excited.

Won't 3D printers pretty much make war game miniature companies obsolete?

Speaking with 0.5% knowledge on the topic, I don't know how much cheaper it would be since there are sooooo many miniatures you have to have to play.
Also, how easy is it to paint on the printed material?

3D printed materials are ABS or PLA generally speaking. This means LEGO plastic which isn't insanely paintable. There's also the issue of surfacing the object after printing and more importantly, printing objects in such a way that they can be assembled. many print-in-place items really aren't. Finally, I also happen to paint miniatures (I get a lot from reapermini) and one thing that's absolutely certain is 3D printers do not have the resolution to do the 25x25 (1inx1in.) miniatures used in virtually every game. The nozzle is simply too big. There is a way to tweak the code to take advantage of 200 and 100 micron wide nozzles, but folk are complaining about frequent clogging/rats nest issues.

I've gone through many items on thingiverse and one thing I've learned; Too many people there are "artists" and have absolutely no clue how to design items with the manufacturing process of the item in mind.

NeoCortex42: Do 3D printers have that much of a color range yet? I don't think they'd come close to matching hand-painted models yet.

No. At best you can get two colors at this time. The range of those two colors in a single print is wide as hell, but it's a maximum of two per print. The downside to this is the extra waste that occurs via the purge fences during extrusion (which is necessary). It would be easier to print in a single color, prime and paint as you see fit.


You seem to only know of one type of 3D printing.
 
2014-08-25 12:36:08 AM
President Luthor calculated this development. 30 Years ago.
 
2014-08-25 12:43:59 AM

NeoCortex42: loonatic112358: Paint it in the 3D model, and then have it print in color

Do 3D printers have that much of a color range yet?  I don't think they'd come close to matching hand-painted models yet.


Luddite!
 
2014-08-25 01:11:40 AM
www.blogcdn.com
 
2014-08-25 01:33:51 AM

loonatic112358: Empty H: Glitchwerks: SockMonkeyHolocaust: As someone who still plays Epic 40k I am excited.

Won't 3D printers pretty much make war game miniature companies obsolete?

Speaking with 0.5% knowledge on the topic, I don't know how much cheaper it would be since there are sooooo many miniatures you have to have to play.
Also, how easy is it to paint on the printed material?

Paint it in the 3D model, and then have it print in color

I guess get a copy of Mudbox and use it for customizing your miniatures


Print the mini and then if plastic primer won't stick to it use the mini to make a mold. Then pour your own resin casts. I know people to do this to save money.
They don't even like to pay for a 5 figure set. "I just need one to copy."
Which is a general problem I have with gamers. They're cheap & wonder why their favorite companies go out of business.
 
2014-08-25 02:09:03 AM

Empty H: RatMaster999: [jgray-sfb.com image 600x408]

Awesome!

I don't care what kind of game, but I have always preferred the hex system over a grid of measurements.


At least hex games avoid the situation with a gamer who says they have been playing so long that they can accurately eyeball measurements, but insist you use a tape measure.

These are the same gamers who get irritated when told that EVERYONE uses a tape measure or has to leave the game.
 
2014-08-25 02:26:09 AM

Lord Ezekiel: This thread is useless without pics.

[static.mnium.org image 667x348]


i291.photobucket.com

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
 
2014-08-25 02:51:17 AM

Sim Tree: Katamari Damacy?


OMG that game is awesome.
 
2014-08-25 03:01:18 AM

RatMaster999: [jgray-sfb.com image 600x408]

Awesome!


Zeus, Marauder, and a Battlemaster! I wish I never sold my pewter minis.

/still waiting for robotech KS to ship
 
2014-08-25 05:16:39 AM
Full color 3D prints.

Shapeways Full Color 3D Printing

and for the terminally creepy, I present 3d printed babby:
fineprintnyc.com
 
2014-08-25 07:07:27 AM
static.giantbomb.com
 
2014-08-25 07:18:42 AM
This simulation is most stupid thing of all time, for real.
 
2014-08-25 08:00:19 AM
I can't find anything on it but I swear Abe Vigoda was in a comedy show dressed as Godzilla and after a short rampage he took of the costume head and sat down saying "Hey, Godz here". or something close to that.
 
2014-08-25 08:12:13 AM

Empty H: I am assuming it will just come down to people who like to paint and people who don't.


It always has...

images.dakkadakka.com
"Two colours and a base.  Ready to go, boss!"

1.bp.blogspot.com
"*Sigh*..."
 
2014-08-25 08:42:03 AM
I've never been very good at painting minis. I used to game, however, with one of the best painters in the US, and the figs we would have as table quality stuff at her house made want to just throw my brushes in the trash. I'd love to see what she could do with a printing rig to make the minis.
 
2014-08-25 09:45:57 AM

Glitchwerks: SockMonkeyHolocaust: As someone who still plays Epic 40k I am excited.

Won't 3D printers pretty much make war game miniature companies obsolete?


Depends on how good the modelers are.
 
2014-08-25 09:52:44 AM

phed: [static.giantbomb.com image 640x400]


Came for Rampage....
 
2014-08-25 09:57:24 AM
It would be cool to see some of the more extreme Minecraft creations printed out in 3d. People make some amazing things but viewing them in 2d on a screen through youtube really takes away a lot of the wow factor.
 
2014-08-25 10:01:42 AM

No Such Agency: Empty H: I am assuming it will just come down to people who like to paint and people who don't.

It always has...

[images.dakkadakka.com image 600x351]
"Two colours and a base.  Ready to go, boss!"

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 304x400]
"*Sigh*..."


I freely admit that even after a decade and hundreds of dollars worth of minis (don't think I've hit $1000 yet) that I'm a pretty crappy painter. Hell, I didn't even know about washes and dry brushing until a few years ago, and am loath to bash anyone's creative efforts at anything (unless they're humblebragging or some shiat). Still, the notion that someone thought they did a good enough job to have their minis photographed, and that the photographer (unless they're the same person) thought enough of this particular shot to watermark it confuses me.

Unless the context is "Look at this crappy paint. do not do this. I am putting it on my site as an example of what not to do."

In which case, why would you even bother?
 
2014-08-25 10:02:13 AM

nocturnal001: It would be cool to see some of the more extreme Minecraft creations printed out in 3d. People make some amazing things but viewing them in 2d on a screen through youtube really takes away a lot of the wow factor.


i.kinja-img.com
FigurePrints - MineCraft
 
2014-08-25 10:09:02 AM
Hawk Wargames does a fantastic range of 10mm resin or card buildings for their Dropzone Commander game.
 
2014-08-25 10:17:56 AM

Witty_Retort: nocturnal001: It would be cool to see some of the more extreme Minecraft creations printed out in 3d. People make some amazing things but viewing them in 2d on a screen through youtube really takes away a lot of the wow factor.

[i.kinja-img.com image 850x478]
FigurePrints - MineCraft


Well, that was fast.
 
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