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(BBC-US)   Today in health news: electrocuting yourself in the brain may not be safe   (bbc.com) divider line 65
    More: Scary, brain stimulation, Swansea University, electrical stimulation  
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2014-08-24 11:43:31 AM  
This is an actual thing? The people who would engage in this activity obviously need some kind of medical help but zapping their own brains ain't it.
 
2014-08-24 12:17:28 PM  
Doesn't electrocution mean death?
 
2014-08-24 12:17:29 PM  
Well, there's a shocker....
 
2014-08-24 12:31:37 PM  

HawgWild: Doesn't electrocution mean death?


Surprised that took two posts to get to.
 
2014-08-24 12:34:10 PM  
"Yes. Penis. Will. Go. There."

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2014-08-24 01:13:55 PM  
Electrocuting yourself in the genitals, however, will likely make them grow enormously in size, and possibly endow them with superpowers.
 
2014-08-24 01:54:55 PM  
Old and busted.

www.mhs.ox.ac.uk
 
2014-08-24 01:55:33 PM  
It only hurts the first time.

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2014-08-24 01:56:42 PM  
What about eggs? Am I supposed to eat them yet? Butter? Everything I consume? Tell me please before I starve!
 
2014-08-24 01:56:46 PM  

ginandbacon: This is an actual thing? The people who would engage in this activity obviously need some kind of medical help but zapping their own brains ain't it.


Those people must be crazy to electrocute their brains! Let's treat them with electroconvulsive therapy!
 
2014-08-24 01:57:07 PM  
One company selling the devices, foc.us ...

Bofe of us?
 
2014-08-24 02:07:46 PM  
There is probably something to it, but in the same way that blood doping works, you really shouldn't try it just because you have a rusty needle.
 
2014-08-24 02:12:17 PM  
But that's not the head I think with.
 
2014-08-24 02:14:51 PM  
I really want to put one of these on a schizophrenic and see what happens to their positive symptoms. The ethics board might have a problem with that though...
 
2014-08-24 02:14:56 PM  
My Dad had ECT administered, to alleviate depression and anxiety, about fifteen years ago.  It did nothing for the depression, trebled the anxiety, and in general ...

... farked him up to no end.  Don't do this.  Leave your brain alone.  On drugs.  At worst.
 
2014-08-24 02:16:58 PM  

MooseBayou: My Dad had ECT administered, to alleviate depression and anxiety, about fifteen years ago.  It did nothing for the depression, trebled the anxiety, and in general ...

... farked him up to no end.  Don't do this.  Leave your brain alone.  On drugs.  At worst.


There was supposed to be a kaboom between the ellipses.  That happened to the kaboom?
 
2014-08-24 02:19:04 PM  
According to this guy, applying electric to the other brain works wonders. They used it all the time a Rendition Resorts.

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2014-08-24 02:20:03 PM  
The thing is it actually works when done by medical professionals. Just like the stigma attached to nuclear power due to popular culture and early accidents, neural electric stimulation is widely misunderstood. It's not an electric chair. The problem explained in this article is that the machines are being sold to untrained people who are not medical professionals.
 
2014-08-24 02:20:34 PM  
what.  WHAT happened.

I need to preview.
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2014-08-24 02:21:36 PM  
People are stupid. You do not want your brain even more active than normal because the result will be sensory overload and although you will gain abilities it comes with a huge disadvantage of paralysing anxiety.

The world is hyper-bright and hyper-loud... and hyper-confusing at times. You're in a constant state of stress, especially in new situations/surroundings. Trust me, I have lived with it my entire life.
 
2014-08-24 02:22:43 PM  

Djorra: The thing is it actually works when done by medical professionals. Just like the stigma attached to nuclear power due to popular culture and early accidents, neural electric stimulation is widely misunderstood. It's not an electric chair. The problem explained in this article is that the machines are being sold to untrained people who are not medical professionals.


Even to medical professionals, it is at best, a guess.

Don't let psychs convince you of anything.  They don't farking know.
 
2014-08-24 02:25:36 PM  

vodka: People are stupid. You do not want your brain even more active than normal because the result will be sensory overload and although you will gain abilities it comes with a huge disadvantage of paralysing anxiety.

The world is hyper-bright and hyper-loud... and hyper-confusing at times. You're in a constant state of stress, especially in new situations/surroundings. Trust me, I have lived with it my entire life.


My sympathies.

Genetics.
 
2014-08-24 02:25:51 PM  

MooseBayou: Djorra: The thing is it actually works when done by medical professionals. Just like the stigma attached to nuclear power due to popular culture and early accidents, neural electric stimulation is widely misunderstood. It's not an electric chair. The problem explained in this article is that the machines are being sold to untrained people who are not medical professionals.

Even to medical professionals, it is at best, a guess.

Don't let psychs convince you of anything.  They don't farking know.


Psychology is a soft science. Psychiatry is not. It's just in its infancy relative to other sciences. It's empirical, and electrical stimulation is one of the tools used that can work and can fail
 
2014-08-24 02:27:16 PM  
I can't remember if I've done this before, so I'm not sure if I should be getting a kick out of it.
 
2014-08-24 02:28:52 PM  
There are many clinical applications for this technique, but it's not something that should be attempted by amateurs.
 
2014-08-24 02:31:49 PM  
Some clown hit me with a tasp.  What's your excuse?
 
2014-08-24 02:32:33 PM  
www.treybailey.net
 
2014-08-24 02:32:35 PM  
cinema100blog.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-08-24 02:47:46 PM  
This is just a variation of deep brain stimulation that has been in use for decades for depression, parkinsons, and tons of other stuff. I know nothing about this, but will be learning about it in the next few years.  This is potentially a very useful tool, and possibly groundbreaking with huge advancements in the field of psychiatry.  Or, it could be niche, like ECT -- useful, but not broadly applicable.

Another related topic that is being looked at: Transcranial magnetic stimulation . Which has already been cleared by the FDA for use in patients that have MDD and failed medication therapy.

Exciting stuff.
 
2014-08-24 02:48:50 PM  
What about in the membrane?
 
2014-08-24 02:56:47 PM  
No Buckaroo Banzai references yet? Fark I am disappoint.

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2014-08-24 02:57:29 PM  

MooseBayou: One company selling the devices, foc.us ...

Bofe of us?


thatsracist.gif

/loved the joke when I was a kid
 
2014-08-24 03:04:48 PM  
in the brain

static.squarespace.com
 
2014-08-24 03:10:37 PM  
Check out http://www.radiolab.org/story/9-volt-nirvana/
In the right hands it's amazing, in the wrong hands you might go temporally blind.
 
2014-08-24 03:15:08 PM  

heywood-jablome: No Buckaroo Banzai references yet? Fark I am disappoint.

[img.fark.net image 630x336]

www.yahooserious.com

Never enough Yahoo Serious
 
2014-08-24 03:15:26 PM  

vodka: People are stupid. You do not want your brain even more active than normal because the result will be sensory overload and although you will gain abilities it comes with a huge disadvantage of paralysing anxiety.
The world is hyper-bright and hyper-loud... and hyper-confusing at times. You're in a constant state of stress, especially in new situations/surroundings. Trust me, I have lived with it my entire life.


IMHO, electrical stimulation works more like this. Our entire body works because of electrical impulses moving through us. Most of us are overstimulated already, we don't need to jack up the sensitivity to everything (if that is what an electric charge will do.) I'm pretty hypersensitive to outside stimuli also--I don't need to feel more, sense more.

I can see ECT being some use for serious depressive disorders, where you might want the person to become more responsive. It worked for my aunt, who was just about catatonic from depression. Not that she ever got completely well, but at least she could participate in the world again.
 
2014-08-24 03:17:36 PM  

HawgWild: Doesn't electrocution mean death?


Electrocution is a portmanteau of electrical execution

/adjusts glasses
 
2014-08-24 03:18:10 PM  
So stop checking those 9-volt batteries with your tongue. It will fry your brain.
 
2014-08-24 03:43:16 PM  
I had 17 ECT treatments. It's hard to remember my name sometimes, but I've yet to blow my brains out.

/ends justifying means
//MJ keeps me safe and sound these days
///at least I remembered this here 3rd slashie
 
2014-08-24 03:45:03 PM  
It has also been shown to increase performance in a maths task, an improvement which was still in place six months later.

yeah right---it also screws up your ability to spell correctly.  it is a math task, not a maths task.

next thing you'll see are people dropping the letter u in all sorts of words.
 
2014-08-24 03:45:14 PM  
They use it in the army. So in a controlled environment it may work

/not some crackpot theory
 
2014-08-24 03:46:01 PM  

Djorra: MooseBayou: Djorra: The thing is it actually works when done by medical professionals. Just like the stigma attached to nuclear power due to popular culture and early accidents, neural electric stimulation is widely misunderstood. It's not an electric chair. The problem explained in this article is that the machines are being sold to untrained people who are not medical professionals.

Even to medical professionals, it is at best, a guess.

Don't let psychs convince you of anything.  They don't farking know.

Psychology is a soft science. Psychiatry is not. It's just in its infancy relative to other sciences. It's empirical, and electrical stimulation is one of the tools used that can work and can fail


And good Psych docs save the least proven treatments (like this) for last.
/My wife /wants/ to try ECT
//Dr. says no.  Plenty of other things left to try first.
 
2014-08-24 03:47:41 PM  

MooseBayou: My Dad had ECT administered, to alleviate depression and anxiety, about fifteen years ago.  It did nothing for the depression, trebled the anxiety, and in general ...

... farked him up to no end.  Don't do this.  Leave your brain alone.  On drugs.  At worst.


Well they have Changed it quite a bit recently .Only (supposed to be) used when medication and therapy do not resolve any symptoms
 
2014-08-24 03:55:58 PM  

SteakMan: Djorra: MooseBayou: Djorra: The thing is it actually works when done by medical professionals. Just like the stigma attached to nuclear power due to popular culture and early accidents, neural electric stimulation is widely misunderstood. It's not an electric chair. The problem explained in this article is that the machines are being sold to untrained people who are not medical professionals.

Even to medical professionals, it is at best, a guess.

Don't let psychs convince you of anything.  They don't farking know.

Psychology is a soft science. Psychiatry is not. It's just in its infancy relative to other sciences. It's empirical, and electrical stimulation is one of the tools used that can work and can fail

And good Psych docs save the least proven treatments (like this) for last.
/My wife /wants/ to try ECT
//Dr. says no.  Plenty of other things left to try first.


Everyone's so unique, but (as to your wife) there's no going back from ECT. It changes you profoundly, in good ways and in surreal, unpredictable ways. Based upon my own experience, it shouldn't be used unless severely profound and pervasive depression is accompanied by suicidal ideation/attempt(s). Good luck; this shiat's a motherfarker.
 
2014-08-24 04:26:29 PM  
"Now you tell me," says Adam Sandler.
 
2014-08-24 04:35:41 PM  
SteakMan:
And good Psych docs save the least proven treatments (like this) for last.
/My wife /wants/ to try ECT
//Dr. says no.  Plenty of other things left to try first.


I have a friend that had ECT, It worked but he lost the previous year or so of memories.  I think they only tried it because he has a long history of building up tolerances to drugs in weeks to months.  They did find a large tumor on his heart in the pre treatment check up before the procedure so it probably saved his life that way too.
 
2014-08-24 04:47:00 PM  

Hector Remarkable: Electrocuting yourself in the genitals, however, will likely make them grow enormously in size, and possibly endow them with superpowers.


Not really. But it will give you an insanely intense orgasm* - even enabling certain people to have a continuous orgasm beyond the initial climax period - for as long as the stimulation is applied.

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*Using a TENS or purpose-built Estim unit.
**Don't go sticking your junk in a light socket.
 
2014-08-24 04:48:45 PM  

thatboyoverthere: Well they have Changed it quite a bit recently .Only (supposed to be) used when medication and therapy do not resolve any symptoms


It's also done under general anesthesia in an operating room setting, with complete chemical paralysis of the skeletal muscles and physical control of the patient's airway.

ECT is safer. But it's still a crude therapy that is a last resort.
 
2014-08-24 05:27:45 PM  
Read the article for once, this is not ECT. I have a severe anxiety disorder which is not helped much by medication and I'm very curious about the idea of applying small currents to kind of reprogram some functions of the brain. I will not experiment on myself (for now) but have no bad opinions for those who do as long as they are smart and methodical about it. I do believe that companies selling transcranial direct current stimulation (TDCS)  kits to the public are irresponsible.

If I were to experiment I would first research where to put the electrodes and the currents and polarity involved, then I would build a battery powered current source with a timer. After that I would start experimenting with lower current and shorter times then my research indicated. I'd also keep a log of everything happening.

Just writing this post makes me extremely anxious, but I haven't been able to work for about three years, so maybe one day if I don't improve  I'll say fark it and build my own TDCS machine.
 
2014-08-24 05:29:28 PM  
Nipple clamps hooked to a car battery is still cool, right?
 
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