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2014-08-24 12:38:51 PM
That is all kinds of farked up.  It takes a special kind of true asshole to do that to someone.
 
2014-08-24 01:08:40 PM
10 bucks says the SWAT team had a mad-libs style warrant in hand.
 
2014-08-24 01:11:15 PM
What ginormous dicks.

I mean, who takes a video that promises to show a livestreamsr being swatted, and cuts out all the action from the police entering the house?

Assholes.
 
2014-08-24 01:11:39 PM
Surprised nobody's been killed during one of these. Also how often do PD seriously get "he's got a bomb" tips?
 
2014-08-24 01:40:06 PM
Shouldn't we consider the idea of 'Swatting' more than just an annoyance? It should have serious reprecusions than just an 'Oh You!' Reaction.
 
2014-08-24 03:12:16 PM
I know nothing about the law.  But can police really have a warrant for WMD suspicion and then arrest you for having a joint?  Doesn't the warrant need to be specific about what they are looking for?
 
2014-08-24 03:22:00 PM
I for one feel safer knowing that all it takes to get a gang of armed men to kick someone's door down is an anonymous phone call.

That and that a crank call is apparently rock solid "probable cause" for armed raids.
 
2014-08-24 03:24:27 PM
Oh, videogamer.

/my lawn, off
 
2014-08-24 03:25:48 PM

Aar1012: Shouldn't we consider the idea of 'Swatting' more than just an annoyance? It should have serious reprecusions than just an 'Oh You!' Reaction.


Attempted murder would be a start.
 
2014-08-24 03:28:49 PM

BigLuca: I know nothing about the law.  But can police really have a warrant for WMD suspicion and then arrest you for having a joint?  Doesn't the warrant need to be specific about what they are looking for?


AFAIK they can seize evidence of other crimes that they find during a reasonable search for the evidence they went in for.

For example - if they're searching for a stolen 50" TV they're not supposed to search a small box you might have, as there is no conceivable way the TV could be in there. Although with pot I suspect they can say the magic words "during the search I detected the odor of marijuana" and then everything's probably fair game thanks to The War On Drugs.

IANAL
 
2014-08-24 03:28:53 PM

Target Builder: That and that a crank call is apparently rock solid "probable cause" for armed raids.


They don't know it's a "crank" call until they find out the hard way, and, when someone is claiming "imminent danger" I think the SOP is to err on the side of "let's do this" and less so on "let's wait and see".

BigLuca: can police really have a warrant for WMD suspicion and then arrest you for having a joint? Doesn't the warrant need to be specific about what they are looking for?


I'd always thought so, but I get all of my police procedural information from TV police procedurals.
 
2014-08-24 03:29:06 PM

BigLuca: I know nothing about the law.  But can police really have a warrant for WMD suspicion and then arrest you for having a joint?  Doesn't the warrant need to be specific about what they are looking for?


Replace "having a joint" with "dismembering a corpse" and I think you have your answer.

Not that the first shouldn't be legal.
 
2014-08-24 03:34:44 PM

BigLuca: I know nothing about the law.  But can police really have a warrant for WMD suspicion and then arrest you for having a joint?  Doesn't the warrant need to be specific about what they are looking for?


Not as long as pot is considered a WMD.
 
2014-08-24 03:35:37 PM

moothemagiccow: Surprised nobody's been killed during one of these. Also how often do PD seriously get "he's got a bomb" tips?


It's already happened.  I recall a man getting convicted of murder a year or two ago for shooting and killing a policeman doing a "no knock" raid.  They kicked down the door in the middle of the night and the guy defended himself since he had no idea what was going on since they didn't announce themselves as the police so he wouldn't have a chance to potentially destroy evidence.

A typical search warrant will have a specific item or items they are looking for related to specific crimes so it can't be not supposed to be a fishing expedition once they get inside, but on a terror type raid I don't know if that is the case
 
2014-08-24 03:37:19 PM

Elegy: What ginormous dicks.

I mean, who takes a video that promises to show a livestreamsr being swatted, and cuts out all the action from the police entering the house?

Assholes.


yeah, I want my two minuets back
 
2014-08-24 03:42:44 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Target Builder: That and that a crank call is apparently rock solid "probable cause" for armed raids.

They don't know it's a "crank" call until they find out the hard way, and, when someone is claiming "imminent danger" I think the SOP is to err on the side of "let's do this" and less so on "let's wait and see".

BigLuca: can police really have a warrant for WMD suspicion and then arrest you for having a joint? Doesn't the warrant need to be specific about what they are looking for?

I'd always thought so, but I get all of my police procedural information from TV police procedurals.


You'd think they would maybe do some intelligence gathering beyond an anonymous phone call prior to carrying out an armed raid, particularly if the call is legit as the place could be boobytrapped.
 
2014-08-24 03:42:47 PM

BigLuca: I know nothing about the law.  But can police really have a warrant for WMD suspicion and then arrest you for having a joint?  Doesn't the warrant need to be specific about what they are looking for?


It's called the plain view exception, and based on the idea that police should not ignore evidence of a crime if they see it. Once the police are lawfully in a place to make their observations, anything they observe with their senses - without moving things or lifting them, or opening up boxes and such - is in "plain view" and can be used as evidence of other crimes. So if, during the course of a valid search on another matter, they find your pot or your child porn, they can use that as evidence to arrest you for those crimes, even if unrelated to the original search.
 
2014-08-24 03:45:12 PM

chitownmike: Elegy: What ginormous dicks.

I mean, who takes a video that promises to show a livestreamsr being swatted, and cuts out all the action from the police entering the house?

Assholes.

yeah, I want my two minuets back


Fine, here you go

davidsurtees.com
www.8notes.com
 
2014-08-24 03:49:41 PM

croesius: chitownmike: Elegy: What ginormous dicks.

I mean, who takes a video that promises to show a livestreamsr being swatted, and cuts out all the action from the police entering the house?

Assholes.

yeah, I want my two minuets back

Fine, here you go

[davidsurtees.com image 522x524]
[www.8notes.com image 650x898]


Thanks
 
2014-08-24 03:49:50 PM

croesius: chitownmike: Elegy: What ginormous dicks.

I mean, who takes a video that promises to show a livestreamsr being swatted, and cuts out all the action from the police entering the house?

Assholes.

yeah, I want my two minuets back

Fine, here you go

[davidsurtees.com image 522x524]
[www.8notes.com image 650x898]


i.imgur.com
 
2014-08-24 03:53:25 PM
Nothing to fear if you're not doing anything wrong...
 
2014-08-24 03:59:51 PM
Youtube has a few recordings of this happening to others.
 
2014-08-24 04:07:04 PM
Can't local PD use their NSA connections to track down and prosecute the fraudulent tipster for wasting their resources?

/seriously asking actually
 
2014-08-24 04:12:52 PM

BigLuca: I know nothing about the law.  But can police really have a warrant for WMD suspicion and then arrest you for having a joint?  Doesn't the warrant need to be specific about what they are looking for?


Look up the plain view doctrine. Evidence of a crime in plain view can be seized without a warrant.
 
2014-08-24 04:20:13 PM

Yankees Team Gynecologist: Can't local PD use their NSA connections to track down and prosecute the fraudulent tipster for wasting their resources?

/seriously asking actually


That might require them to do some actual police work, and ain't nobody got time for that.
 
2014-08-24 04:21:49 PM

Aar1012: Shouldn't we consider the idea of 'Swatting' more than just an annoyance? It should have serious reprecusions than just an 'Oh You!' Reaction.


Yeah there's the very real chance that you'll get shot, even if you cooperate 100%. Personally I'd think there should be attempted homicide charges for whoever falsely reported on this guy, since you're basically telling the cops to go use deadly force on someone. It puts the officers in danger too, both from each other (accidents can happen) and the innocent victim defending themselves against an armed invasion into their home.
 
2014-08-24 04:22:12 PM

Yankees Team Gynecologist: Can't local PD use their NSA connections to track down and prosecute the fraudulent tipster for wasting their resources?

/seriously asking actually


The potential for abuse is so high I think the standard should be a lot higher.  Right now the idea is, take the tip at face value, go in full tactical force, let the courts sort it out.  Also yes, the person making the obviously disingenuous tip should be subject to severe penalties, I'd say filing a false police report and endangering the public and officers.  They were essentially calling in a bomb threat knowing full well there wasn't one.  That's a crime and they should put at least as much time and effort into them down as they do into tracking down a kid who posted a picture of a bong on a his facebook page.
 
2014-08-24 04:22:58 PM
I think we need to reformat the legal system and do a clean re-install.  This version has gotten bloated and buggy.
 
2014-08-24 04:37:23 PM
Maaaaaaybe noknock raids done in the black of night are a bad idea?

Is it so hard to park a couple cruisers with their blues flashing outside the front door and knock for a minute?  OH NOES THEY MIGHT DESTROY EVERDEENZE!
 
2014-08-24 04:54:10 PM
Swatters need to be aggressively pursued and made an example of via harsh sentencing. Also, another example of out of control police enforcement. A farking swat team based on an anonymous tip...unreal.
 
2014-08-24 04:55:58 PM

oryx: BigLuca: I know nothing about the law.  But can police really have a warrant for WMD suspicion and then arrest you for having a joint?  Doesn't the warrant need to be specific about what they are looking for?

Look up the plain view doctrine. Evidence of a crime in plain view can be seized without a warrant.


who would leave 30 to 500 grams of weed in plain view? Are they using the same dogs to smell for bombs as they would for drugs?
 
2014-08-24 05:05:34 PM

Yankees Team Gynecologist: Can't local PD use their NSA connections to track down and prosecute the fraudulent tipster for wasting their resources?

/seriously asking actually


This assumes the tipster is an American (or in whatever country the raid occurred in), for one.
 
2014-08-24 05:08:16 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Swatters need to be aggressively pursued and made an example of via harsh sentencing. Also, another example of out of control police enforcement. A farking swat team based on an anonymous tip...unreal.


You don't sound like a patriot, citizen.  What do you have to hide?
 
2014-08-24 05:09:09 PM

chitownmike: oryx: BigLuca: I know nothing about the law.  But can police really have a warrant for WMD suspicion and then arrest you for having a joint?  Doesn't the warrant need to be specific about what they are looking for?

Look up the plain view doctrine. Evidence of a crime in plain view can be seized without a warrant.

who would leave 30 to 500 grams of weed in plain view? Are they using the same dogs to smell for bombs as they would for drugs?


Absolutely not! Bomb dogs are relied upon in life or death situations, where their keen noses must never fail to pick up particular traces of bomb components. You would never teach a bomb dog to detect a "hit" based on a small movement by the K9 Operator.
 
2014-08-24 05:15:39 PM
Young People do have their stupid moments.  part of growing up, i guess.
 
2014-08-24 05:18:30 PM
Ahahahahahahahahahahaha. It worked!

Seriously though, DayZ players tend to be ginormous dickheads.
 
2014-08-24 05:26:11 PM
They typically do bust swatters. People who pull that crap are charged with a felony.

If the prosecutor in this case has any kind of decency, he'll not pursue the marijuana case against the livestreamer. It makes law enforcement's tactics look REALLY bad when they do a raid like this for no good reason, and then just find some unrelated excuse with which to charge the victim.
 
2014-08-24 05:26:30 PM
It will cost him $10k in legal fees to get the evidence suppressed.

What a country.
 
2014-08-24 05:27:10 PM

doczoidberg: If the prosecutor in this case has any kind of decency


Prosecutors do not have a shred of decency.
 
2014-08-24 05:41:16 PM
Feel bad for the guy for getting swatted. Not so much for the weed. I could care less about the legality. If its illegal, don't own it and work to get the laws overturned.
 
2014-08-24 05:42:25 PM

Marcus Aurelius: doczoidberg: If the prosecutor in this case has any kind of decency

Prosecutors do not have a shred of decency.


Yeah, you're pretty much right.

BTW, there's a typo in the headline. I can't believe I'm the first one to point it out.
 
2014-08-24 05:58:38 PM

jayphat: Feel bad for the guy for getting swatted. Not so much for the weed. I could care less about the legality. If its illegal, don't own it and work to get the laws overturned.


Oh man, you would have been so much fun to hang out with when slavery was legal......
 
2014-08-24 06:06:00 PM
Dont share your passwords....or address with your online friends.
 
2014-08-24 06:07:04 PM

Giltric: Dont share your passwords....or address with your online friends.


And dont make your screen name 1324 oak hollow road junction city kansas.


/forgot that part
 
2014-08-24 06:18:30 PM

croesius: chitownmike: oryx: BigLuca: I know nothing about the law.  But can police really have a warrant for WMD suspicion and then arrest you for having a joint?  Doesn't the warrant need to be specific about what they are looking for?

Look up the plain view doctrine. Evidence of a crime in plain view can be seized without a warrant.

who would leave 30 to 500 grams of weed in plain view? Are they using the same dogs to smell for bombs as they would for drugs?

Absolutely not! Bomb dogs are relied upon in life or death situations, where their keen noses must never fail to pick up particular traces of bomb components. You would never teach a bomb dog to detect a "hit" based on a small movement by the K9 Operator.


thanks for the cynicism but I was asking a serious question, are they using the same dogs? Because I have, on many occasions, walked right past a police dog, in train stations mostly, with a stinky bag in my pocket and they don't even turn their head
 
2014-08-24 06:20:54 PM

Giltric: Giltric: Dont share your passwords....or address with your online friends.

And dont make your screen name 1324 oak hollow road junction city kansas.


/forgot that part


I hate Junction City... All Strip joints, payday loans and trailer parks.
 
2014-08-24 06:21:46 PM

AgentPothead: jayphat: Feel bad for the guy for getting swatted. Not so much for the weed. I could care less about the legality. If its illegal, don't own it and work to get the laws overturned.

Oh man, you would have been so much fun to hang out with when slavery was legal......


Germans killed millions of innocent people during WWII.  How?  A small group of evil people were in power, and all the other Germans were  jayphat.
 
2014-08-24 06:23:21 PM
Giltric
Giltric:
Dont share your passwords....or address with your online friends.

And dont make your screen name 1324 oak hollow road junction city kansas.


Or do it if someone you don't like lives there.
Then provoke some knee-jerk prone community member(s) and wait for the internet mob to lynch your target.
 
2014-08-24 06:31:10 PM

BigLuca: AgentPothead: jayphat: Feel bad for the guy for getting swatted. Not so much for the weed. I could care less about the legality. If its illegal, don't own it and work to get the laws overturned.

Oh man, you would have been so much fun to hang out with when slavery was legal......

Germans killed millions of innocent people during WWII.  How?  A small group of evil people were in power, and all the other Germans were  jayphat.


Godwin on the first page. Okay.
 
2014-08-24 06:50:51 PM
Did the CTs shoot the hostage and T-Bag the terrorist?


/Counter-Terrorists Win!
 
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