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(C|Net)   Windows 9 unveiling now set for Sept. 30, which probably explains why Steve Ballmer was in such a hurry to resign from the board   (cnet.com) divider line 25
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2014-08-24 08:52:49 AM  
Another farking upgrade.

/sigh
 
2014-08-24 09:07:34 AM  
I wonder if they'll call the version after this one Windows X.
 
2014-08-24 09:18:55 AM  
Reaper, Photoshop and Steam run just fine on 7, thank you.
 
2014-08-24 09:20:45 AM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Reaper, Photoshop and Steam run just fine on 7, thank you.


Yea, I'll be using Windows 7 about as long if not longer than I used Windows 2000 (7 years).
 
2014-08-24 09:55:23 AM  
Many machines on IX.
 
2014-08-24 10:38:17 AM  
Are they still flogging that tired, Metro interface?
 
2014-08-24 10:40:41 AM  
Shouldn't 9 be good, due to how Windows OSes work? Still, fark Metro.
 
2014-08-24 10:50:00 AM  
Nein
 
2014-08-24 11:22:10 AM  

Ambivalence: I wonder if they'll call the version after this one Windows X.


It'll be called Malcolm Windows X:  "We will blue-screen crash your computer...... BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!!"
 
2014-08-24 11:28:30 AM  

Threshold!


storagezilla.typepad.com


Take us to the Threshold!

 
2014-08-24 11:28:58 AM  

Ghastly: Are they still flogging that tired, Metro interface?


It works well on the Surface. It sucks donkey balls on a desk PC. I'm very happy using it on my RT but still never touch it on my PC, and thanks to Classic Shell I don't have to. It's a touch interface. Who would want that on a tabletop PC?

I can see why they did it, providing a unified interface for all your machines is a great idea when millions of people use a PC at work and home, a tablet at home or on the train and a phone at almost every other waking moment. It was just trying to force Metro onto desktop users by hiding the traditional desktop and deliberately removing the controls people were familiar with that was stupid. Classic Shell proves they can both work side by side, I have all the XP/Vista/7 menus and controls but still have Metro, charms etc if I wanted to use them. They can coexist, so why take them away?
 
2014-08-24 11:30:41 AM  
My mother got a laptop with windows 8 on it a few weeks ago so of course I have to do tech support for her constantly. From what I have seen of windows 8 it is the tablet philosophy crammed into a PC o/s. It goes as follows:

1.YOU WILL ONLY LOOK AT WHAT WE WANT YOU TO LOOK AT!
2. Every little thing you want to do, is an app, you will likely have to pay for that app.
3. Customize? Sure, you can customize what we say you can customize.
4. STOP TRYING TO CHANGE THINGS! GIVE US MONEY!


Windows 9 will be more of the same, all of the software companies want control over what you can buy and what their cut will be. This is to take away your choice, you will do what they say and pay for it or you can go play with linux like those losers you keep hearing about. Your not a poor loser are you? Another 10 years and we are farked. God I hate this.


/i'm..I...I wil....i'm just gonna go move into a log cabin in northern canada and not deal with this shiat any more.
 
2014-08-24 11:30:50 AM  
And this explains why Microsoft wants to end most support for Win7 in 2015... to *force* people to either upgrade to 8 (FARK NO as far as business users are concerned, most are still transitioning over to 7) or buy 9 when it comes out (good luck with that one if they are still trying to ram Metro down our throats).
 
2014-08-24 11:38:07 AM  

ClavellBCMI: And this explains why Microsoft wants to end most support for Win7 in 2015... to *force* people to either upgrade to 8 (FARK NO as far as business users are concerned, most are still transitioning over to 7) or buy 9 when it comes out (good luck with that one if they are still trying to ram Metro down our throats).


Have they announced they are ending support in 2015?
 
2014-08-24 11:40:21 AM  
Ending it in 2015?

Anybody wanna join me in the Cabin? fark this society.
 
2014-08-24 11:41:58 AM  
I have 2 computers using 8 atm, by laptop, and my surface pro.  For the surface its awesome. for the laptop isnt no better/worse then windows 7.

People who cried over Metro are simply stuck in the i dont want to change mindset.  It happens, ive seen it over and over through the years.  It took all of an afternoon to become proficient with 8.  And its advantages far outweigh the poo pooing it gets from internet computer experts.

the same thing was said about some of the other versions of windows.  Experts had no problems. internet experts had all sorts of problems, and the average user noticed no difference.

If you dont like it. dont buy it.  Just keep believing the world is only 6,000 years old. the rest of use know better.
 
2014-08-24 11:45:01 AM  

ClavellBCMI: And this explains why Microsoft wants to end most support for Win7 in 2015


I totally didn't believe that until I went to Microsoft's website and looked for myself. They weren't particularly helpful answering my questions. I found a page that listed the dates that Mainstream and Extended support would end and one of the questions about the differences between the two wasn't really answered at all. The main thing that most people will care about, security updates(not that they really care at all, though), won't stop until 2020, the end of Extended Support. When Mainstream Support ends inJanuary next year, there won't be any new features but Windows 7 hasn't really had many new features added over its life.
 
2014-08-24 11:48:27 AM  
They're not honestly expecting people to upgrade this soon, are they?
 
2014-08-24 11:51:14 AM  
I, for one, welcome the new Operating System...

...As long as its better, faster, stronger and cheaper.
 
2014-08-24 11:54:00 AM  
That reminds me. I need to hit fleabay for a copy of win7 to put on my current win8 machine.

/what an obamanation
 
2014-08-24 11:58:41 AM  
Here, let me be helpful and post some information that Microsft hasn't really announced. The big deal was XP but they've been pretty quiet on everything else.

Mainstream support-Microsoft will offer mainstream support for a minimum of 5 years from the date of a product's general availability, or for 2 years after the successor product is released, whichever is longer.

Extended support-Microsoft will offer extended support for either a minimum of 5 years from the date of a product's general availability, or for 2 years after the second successor product (two versions later) is released, whichever is longer.


What's the difference?

Mainstream support-
Request to change product design and features
Security updates
Other hotfixes (bug fixes)
Complimentary support1 included with license, licensing program2 or other no-charge support programs
Paid-support (including pay-per-incident Premier and Essential Support)

Extended support-
Security updates
Other hotfixes (bug fixes)(Only available with Extended Hotfix Support. Not available for Desktop Operating System consumer products)
Paid-support (including pay-per-incident Premier and Essential Support)

Windows 7 End of mainstream support: January 13, 2015
End of extended support: January 14, 2020

Windows 8 End of mainstream support:January 9, 2018
End of extended support: January 10, 2023
 
2014-08-24 12:01:38 PM  
Having run Win8.1 since November I can honestly say that, after spending a couple days de-Metroing it, it's a perfectly fine OS.  Start by installing Classic Shell, then start to desktop, and as Metro apps show up find a way to fix it (read, change file associations) so you never have to see it again.

The big thing that blew me away is how Win8.1 not only moves stuff all over hell and gone with no seeming rhyme nor reason, but when you use search they won't tell you where they found it at.  WTF Microsoft?
 
2014-08-24 12:14:20 PM  

Nick Nostril: That reminds me. I need to hit fleabay for a copy of win7 to put on my current win8 machine.

/what an obamanation


Install Classic Shell instead. Just the same result and the OS is faster and more secure.

/Though now this had been redlit you won't read this anyway.
 
2014-08-24 12:23:50 PM  

orclover: My mother got a laptop with windows 8 on it a few weeks ago so of course I have to do tech support for her constantly. From what I have seen of windows 8 it is the tablet philosophy crammed into a PC o/s. It goes as follows:

1.YOU WILL ONLY LOOK AT WHAT WE WANT YOU TO LOOK AT!
2. Every little thing you want to do, is an app, you will likely have to pay for that app.
3. Customize? Sure, you can customize what we say you can customize.
4. STOP TRYING TO CHANGE THINGS! GIVE US MONEY!


Windows 9 will be more of the same, all of the software companies want control over what you can buy and what their cut will be. This is to take away your choice, you will do what they say and pay for it or you can go play with linux like those losers you keep hearing about. Your not a poor loser are you? Another 10 years and we are farked. God I hate this.


/i'm..I...I wil....i'm just gonna go move into a log cabin in northern canada and not deal with this shiat any more.


Why don't you just set the option to boot to desktop?  I'm running 8.1 and other than booting quicker, it works almost exactly like 7.
 
2014-08-24 01:11:20 PM  
I still can't get 8.1 to update on my mother's Windows 8 machine. I told her it wasn't worth the hassle and if she expected me to fix it we have to put 7 on it.

Since she doesn't do much besides web stuff it's ok to use 8. However whenever she farks something up it is a bear to undo. I despise 8 with a passion. I don't even hold this much animosity for iOS. I'd take Windows ME over Windows 8.
 
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