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2014-08-24 03:41:52 PM  
The alternate timeline where the new light flare/explosion Star Trek universe is?
 
2014-08-24 04:06:22 PM  
Ant-Man?  Does Batman somehow have his DNA crossed with Atom Ant's?
 
2014-08-24 04:07:01 PM  
Jeeeeeesus. They are extrapolating a lot from one poster in the background of one pic.
 
2014-08-24 04:22:49 PM  

Gaambit: Jeeeeeesus. They are extrapolating a lot from one poster in the background of one pic.


And it's crappy extrapolation at that.

1) They're assuming that it's public knowledge in the MCU that the soda was contaminated with gamma radiation. SHIELD would keep a lid on that

2) Only one bottle was contaminated, killing one person, maybe a few others if Stan Hulked out and rampaged. It's not like it was a widespread poisoning that could be pinned on the soda company.

3) They're assuming that Paul Rudd is playing a super scientist. We already know that Michael Douglas is playing Hank Pym. Paull Rudd is most likely playing Scott Lang, who is certainly smart and is an electrical engineer, but he's not in the 'upper' levels of Marvel intelligentsia like Pym, Reed Richards, Tony Stark, and Bruce Banner. The chances of Lang and banner knowing each other personally is slim. Not impossible, but slim.

4) The only person in the past that dresses like Paul Rudd is looking like in that photo would be Marty McFly.
 
2014-08-24 04:24:37 PM  

Gaambit: Jeeeeeesus. They are extrapolating a lot from one poster in the background of one pic.


No shiat I read this yesterday. Because fictional company in fictional universe would totally for really reals have to do damage control by changing their name. This fan theory gobbledygook has gotten way out of hand. Its always reminds of Sherlock season 3 episode 1. When him and Moriarty are up on the roof with the dummy.
 
2014-08-24 04:32:39 PM  
The Mesozoic age?
 
2014-08-24 04:32:47 PM  
Despite rumors to the contrary, I hope they do a full origin for Dr. Strange eventually and I'd like to see at least the beginning of that set in the past before surgeons had all the technological assistance they currently enjoy., just to add to Strange's God complex. It would also make his (internet-absent) quest for the restoration of his abilities more arduous.

Article is dumb.
 
2014-08-24 04:42:36 PM  
Post- anger management training?

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2014-08-24 04:44:56 PM  
Cruddy website there...ads everywhere and couldn't even read the article.
 
2014-08-24 04:49:50 PM  
Was anybody actively assuming the time period "Ant-Man" takes place in?
 
2014-08-24 05:51:38 PM  

Uncle Pooky: Was anybody actively assuming the time period "Ant-Man" takes place in?


I was assuming somewhere between WWII and today. But nothing more fixed than that.
 
2014-08-24 05:52:54 PM  
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Don't drink. Don't smoke. What do you do?
 
2014-08-24 06:01:11 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: Gaambit: Jeeeeeesus. They are extrapolating a lot from one poster in the background of one pic.

And it's crappy extrapolation at that.

1) They're assuming that it's public knowledge in the MCU that the soda was contaminated with gamma radiation. SHIELD would keep a lid on that



Negative. Shield, as we knew it, no longer exists - and all of their dirty little secrets are out as public knowledge.
 
2014-08-24 06:09:59 PM  
I know nothing about Any Man but isn't it possible it's the future?  Since Michael Douglas is playing the original Ant Man and Ant Man was around during the time of the Avengers?
 
2014-08-24 06:21:56 PM  
Why? Why is this a thing?
 
2014-08-24 06:41:14 PM  

buntz: I know nothing about Any Man but isn't it possible it's the future?  Since Michael Douglas is playing the original Ant Man and Ant Man was around during the time of the Avengers?


No, Micheal Douglass is playing an old Hank Pym who hung around with Howard Stark in the 60's.  Paul Rudd is playing Scott Lang who is the present-day Ant-Man.
 
2014-08-24 06:45:31 PM  

AkaranD: RoyFokker'sGhost: Gaambit: Jeeeeeesus. They are extrapolating a lot from one poster in the background of one pic.

And it's crappy extrapolation at that.

1) They're assuming that it's public knowledge in the MCU that the soda was contaminated with gamma radiation. SHIELD would keep a lid on that


Negative. Shield, as we knew it, no longer exists - and all of their dirty little secrets are out as public knowledge.


True.

But I doubt a single instance of Hulk poisoning several years ago is going to cause much of backlash towards a company that had no way of knowing that could even happen.  Worst case scenario, they'll throw a pile of cash at the single victim's heirs (assuming they didn't already do so quietly).
 
2014-08-24 06:50:21 PM  
he's incredible intelligent

HULK ADVERB!
 
2014-08-24 06:50:45 PM  

AkaranD: RoyFokker'sGhost: Gaambit: Jeeeeeesus. They are extrapolating a lot from one poster in the background of one pic.

And it's crappy extrapolation at that.

1) They're assuming that it's public knowledge in the MCU that the soda was contaminated with gamma radiation. SHIELD would keep a lid on that


Negative. Shield, as we knew it, no longer exists - and all of their dirty little secrets are out as public knowledge.


Ah yes. Still, even if all the SHIELD files are out in the open, it was just one incident. It's doubtful that the soda company would be shut down or forced to re-brand.
 
2014-08-24 06:54:03 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Post- anger management training?

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2014-08-24 07:17:35 PM  

Random Internet Persona: Why? Why is this a thing?


My thoughts exactly.
 
2014-08-24 07:23:39 PM  
I hope they have Colin Farrell wearing a wool cap.
 
2014-08-24 07:25:40 PM  

jayphat: Random Internet Persona: Why? Why is this a thing?

My thoughts exactly.


Such speculation is not unprecedented

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2014-08-24 07:25:55 PM  

Mentat: No, Micheal Douglass is playing an old Hank Pym who hung around with Howard Stark in the 60's.  Paul Rudd is playing Scott Lang who is the present-day Ant-Man.


I thought Hank Pym formed the Avengers with Iron Man and Thor, etc?  Again, I know nothing about him though.  Just saying I thought he was a contemporary of THOSE guys.
 
2014-08-24 07:29:21 PM  

buntz: Mentat: No, Micheal Douglass is playing an old Hank Pym who hung around with Howard Stark in the 60's.  Paul Rudd is playing Scott Lang who is the present-day Ant-Man.

I thought Hank Pym formed the Avengers with Iron Man and Thor, etc?  Again, I know nothing about him though.  Just saying I thought he was a contemporary of THOSE guys.


In the comics yeah he was a founding member of the Avengers and contemporary to Tony and Thor.  In the MCU not so much.
 
2014-08-24 07:44:06 PM  
Lying cat is not happy.
 
2014-08-24 08:28:39 PM  

Nefarious: buntz: Mentat: No, Micheal Douglass is playing an old Hank Pym who hung around with Howard Stark in the 60's.  Paul Rudd is playing Scott Lang who is the present-day Ant-Man.

I thought Hank Pym formed the Avengers with Iron Man and Thor, etc?  Again, I know nothing about him though.  Just saying I thought he was a contemporary of THOSE guys.

In the comics yeah he was a founding member of the Avengers and contemporary to Tony and Thor.  In the MCU not so much.


And this is one of the few things I can gripe about w/ the MCU. Cutting out Janet and Hank is crap, and Hank is an interesting character, who always had a chip on his shoulder and would bring an angrier, bitter vibe to some of the proceedings, which could be played off for laughs or interesting team friction. Hell, Janet came up w/ the damn name the Avengers. Too bad there's no Reed Richards, b/c Reed talking down to Hank was always funny.
 
2014-08-24 08:41:13 PM  

Non-evil Monkey: AkaranD: RoyFokker'sGhost: Gaambit: Jeeeeeesus. They are extrapolating a lot from one poster in the background of one pic.

And it's crappy extrapolation at that.

1) They're assuming that it's public knowledge in the MCU that the soda was contaminated with gamma radiation. SHIELD would keep a lid on that


Negative. Shield, as we knew it, no longer exists - and all of their dirty little secrets are out as public knowledge.

True.

But I doubt a single instance of Hulk poisoning several years ago is going to cause much of backlash towards a company that had no way of knowing that could even happen.  Worst case scenario, they'll throw a pile of cash at the single victim's heirs (assuming they didn't already do so quietly).


I don't think anybody would be able to identify the link really. WE know, because we were able to view the events which led to said incident, that it was caused by gamma radiation contaminated soda. However, every single civil and media authority involved in responding to or investigating the incident would reasonably say: "this old guy who dropped dead in Wisconsin died from radiation contaminated soda", because if it was obviously radioactive, customs would have snagged it and that would be the link Ross needed without needing to have to ice Stan Lee, narratively. Old people die all the time...it's a bummer.

However, something more than that happened. Stan Lee drank hulk blood and turned into a gorillodactyl (or whatever...) and trashed his neighbourhood before being stopped. In that case too, nobody but a super spy agency with would ever have the information required to say pop + old guy = monster mash, only old guy = monster.

The soda company itself would be entirely unaware of it until the super spy agency chose to inform them.
 
2014-08-24 08:46:26 PM  

Doc Batarang: Non-evil Monkey: AkaranD: RoyFokker'sGhost: Gaambit: Jeeeeeesus. They are extrapolating a lot from one poster in the background of one pic.

And it's crappy extrapolation at that.

1) They're assuming that it's public knowledge in the MCU that the soda was contaminated with gamma radiation. SHIELD would keep a lid on that


Negative. Shield, as we knew it, no longer exists - and all of their dirty little secrets are out as public knowledge.

True.

But I doubt a single instance of Hulk poisoning several years ago is going to cause much of backlash towards a company that had no way of knowing that could even happen.  Worst case scenario, they'll throw a pile of cash at the single victim's heirs (assuming they didn't already do so quietly).

I don't think anybody would be able to identify the link really. WE know, because we were able to view the events which led to said incident, that it was caused by gamma radiation contaminated soda. However, every single civil and media authority involved in responding to or investigating the incident would reasonably say: "this old guy who dropped dead in Wisconsin died from radiation contaminated soda", because if it was obviously radioactive, customs would have snagged it and that would be the link Ross needed without needing to have to ice Stan Lee, narratively. Old people die all the time...it's a bummer.

However, something more than that happened. Stan Lee drank hulk blood and turned into a gorillodactyl (or whatever...) and trashed his neighbourhood before being stopped. In that case too, nobody but a super spy agency with would ever have the information required to say pop + old guy = monster mash, only old guy = monster.

The soda company itself would be entirely unaware of it until the super spy agency chose to inform them.


Isn't this one of the headlines when you die in Rampage?
 
2014-08-24 09:30:21 PM  
Everyone guessing on these things is just a slap in the face.
 
2014-08-24 09:51:28 PM  

smd31: Cruddy website there...ads everywhere and couldn't even read the article.


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2014-08-24 09:59:33 PM  
Up and ant dem!
 
2014-08-24 10:12:59 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Post- anger management training?

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Wrong Ant-Man; Michael Douglas is playing the wife-beater.
 
2014-08-24 10:13:57 PM  

Nefarious: buntz: Mentat: No, Micheal Douglass is playing an old Hank Pym who hung around with Howard Stark in the 60's.  Paul Rudd is playing Scott Lang who is the present-day Ant-Man.

I thought Hank Pym formed the Avengers with Iron Man and Thor, etc?  Again, I know nothing about him though.  Just saying I thought he was a contemporary of THOSE guys.

In the comics yeah he was a founding member of the Avengers and contemporary to Tony and Thor.  In the MCU not so much.


Remember - the movies are their own world, completely different from the comics.  Yeah, they do things to reference things that happen and use familiar characters and story arcs but the movies are separate.
 
2014-08-24 10:15:07 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: jayphat: Random Internet Persona: Why? Why is this a thing?

My thoughts exactly.

Such speculation is not unprecedented

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I so forgot about how many people thought that was going to be a flop.  What's it up to, half a billion worldwide?  That reminds me, I need to go see it again.  Maybe take a half day off work and go see it.
 
2014-08-24 11:27:08 PM  

meanmutton: Vlad_the_Inaner: jayphat: Random Internet Persona: Why? Why is this a thing?

My thoughts exactly.

Such speculation is not unprecedented

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I so forgot about how many people thought that was going to be a flop.  What's it up to, half a billion worldwide?  That reminds me, I need to go see it again.  Maybe take a half day off work and go see it.


I keep having to remind people that there was a lot of smart money predicting it would flop. Of course, most of the fandom was calmed after the first trailer was released, but there were a lot of questions about a huge movie with a bunch of characters no one had ever heard of before.

As though anyone had heard of Luke Skywalker and Obi Wan Kenobi before their little sci-fi film.
 
2014-08-24 11:30:51 PM  

Fano: meanmutton: Vlad_the_Inaner: jayphat: Random Internet Persona: Why? Why is this a thing?

My thoughts exactly.

Such speculation is not unprecedented

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I so forgot about how many people thought that was going to be a flop.  What's it up to, half a billion worldwide?  That reminds me, I need to go see it again.  Maybe take a half day off work and go see it.

I keep having to remind people that there was a lot of smart money predicting it would flop. Of course, most of the fandom was calmed after the first trailer was released, but there were a lot of questions about a huge movie with a bunch of characters no one had ever heard of before.

As though anyone had heard of Luke Skywalker and Obi Wan Kenobi before their little sci-fi film.


GotG had one thing going for it Antman does not: stability. How many directors/rewrites/cast member changes has this movie gone through in the leadup to production? Aside from Don Cheadle taking over from Terrance Howard, there hasn't been a single major change to the rest of the MCU movies to date like this, for a movie that a lot of people are scratching their head over going "they chose to make this one?"
 
2014-08-24 11:42:57 PM  

jayphat: Fano: meanmutton: Vlad_the_Inaner: jayphat: Random Internet Persona: Why? Why is this a thing?

My thoughts exactly.

Such speculation is not unprecedented

[img.fark.net image 606x240]

I so forgot about how many people thought that was going to be a flop.  What's it up to, half a billion worldwide?  That reminds me, I need to go see it again.  Maybe take a half day off work and go see it.

I keep having to remind people that there was a lot of smart money predicting it would flop. Of course, most of the fandom was calmed after the first trailer was released, but there were a lot of questions about a huge movie with a bunch of characters no one had ever heard of before.

As though anyone had heard of Luke Skywalker and Obi Wan Kenobi before their little sci-fi film.

GotG had one thing going for it Antman does not: stability. How many directors/rewrites/cast member changes has this movie gone through in the leadup to production? Aside from Don Cheadle taking over from Terrance Howard, there hasn't been a single major change to the rest of the MCU movies to date like this, for a movie that a lot of people are scratching their head over going "they chose to make this one?"


I will agree to that. I have no idea whether they will have success with the Antman project, and the troubled production does not bode well. Sorry if I sound schizo on the subject, I was just chiming in regarding GotG,

It's not like we haven't seen movies about shrinking and rebigulation, Fantastic Voyage and the Honey I Shrunk the Kids made a zillion bucks so it's not a ridiculous concept to film... BUT... without a single vision this one may fall apart entirely.
 
2014-08-24 11:54:31 PM  

Trocadero: Hell, Janet came up w/ the damn name the Avengers.


For all we know, she still did.
 
2014-08-25 12:37:38 AM  

Mentat: Trocadero: Hell, Janet came up w/ the damn name the Avengers.

For all we know, she still did.


Hey, yeah. Since she never became the Wasp, she might have been the fashion designer for S.H.E.I.L.D. or something.
 
2014-08-25 12:38:13 AM  

WilderKWight: Mentat: Trocadero: Hell, Janet came up w/ the damn name the Avengers.

For all we know, she still did.

Hey, yeah. Since she never became the Wasp, she might have been the fashion designer for S.H.E.I.L.D. or something.


Or maybe even S.H.I.E.L.D.

/.derp.
 
2014-08-25 01:50:55 AM  
For those complaining about the Hank/Janet/Scott thing, here are more differences...


* Peter Parker never got bitten by a radioactive spider (or maybe he did, but it killed him).

* Reed Richards & company never went to space, suffered cosmic radiation, or established the Baxter Building, Freedom Foundation, etc.

* Bruce Banner never created a gamma bomb, nor was he caught in its blast or associated with Rick Jones.

* Clint Barton wasn't a carnie, didn't start out as a villain, and never wore the purple carnie outfit.

* The Black Widow wasn't born in 1922, and doesn't have super soldier abilities such as increased physical prowess and long life.

* Tony Stark was never an alcoholic (Howard may have been, though).

* Iron Man was never "Tony Stark's bodyguard".

* Thor was never punished by being turned into a scrawny human named Donald Blake, and Mjolnir was never turned into a walking stick.

* Nick Fury wasn't alive in the 1940s, didn't fight with the Howling Commandos, and was always African American.

* Union Jack never wore a costume, or worked as a costumed hero (but he was  a Howling Commando).

* Dum Dum Dugan didn't have the Infinity Formula, didn't live until the 1960s, and wasn't replaced by a superior LMD several times (Yes, Dum Dum died in the 1960s. Yes, the one you've been seeing all these years has been a LMD because Fury couldn't live without his pal.)

* There are no mutants whatsoever. None. Zilch. Zip. Nada. Charles Xavier may well exist, but he's just some guy.

* Cain Marko never found the Ruby of Cyttorak, either.

* The Guardians of the Galaxy never included Yondu, Charlie-27, Vance Astrovik, Martinex, Starhawk, Nikki, Cosmo, Adam Warlock, Bug, or Moondragon.

* The Badoon don't exist at all. Neither, apparently, do the Skrulls.

* The Spaceknights don't exist (and won't, if Hasbro has any say in the matter).

* The Microverse probably doesn't exist, either (again, this may be up to Hasbro).

* There is apparently no Atlantis, no Namor, no Namorita, no Namora, and no Atuma.

* Doctor Doom doesn't exist. No Latveria, either. No Kristoff. No Doombots.

* There was never a communist-bashing Captain America in the 1950s.

* Bucky never wore a costume or served as Captain America's "kid sidekick".

* The Invaders didn't exist during WWII (as far as we know).

* Arnim Zola was never a weird headless robot.

* Galactus does not exist (good thing, too, since Reed Richards would never have gotten his hands on the Ultimate Nullifier). There's also no Silver Surfer, Nova, Terrax, or any other herald.

* The Avengers formed in the early 21st century instead of the mid-20th century.

* Otto Octavius never had his accident, Mac Gargan never underwent transformation, Adrian Toomes never developed his winged antigravity harness, Quentin Beck never put a fishbowl on his head, Max Dillon never got powers, William Baker probably never became Flint Marko and he never got powers, and there is no Daily Bugle or Oscorp.

* Norman Osborne either never existed, or never became anyone of any importance.

* Gwen Stacy and her father probably lived long and happy lives, as did Ned Leeds and Jean DeWolff.

* Felicia Hardy's probably in prison, or went to a good prep school or something.


There's a ton more. The point is that the MCU isn't the 616 Universe, or even the Ultimate Universe. The movies have gone their own way, but they have been successful because they have maintained the  spirit  of the Marvel Multiverse... Which is the one thing the Warner Bros/DC movies have failed to do entirely. In fact, I'd say the DC movies seem to do their very best to AVOID the spirit of any incarnation of the DC Universe, as if they're ashamed of the source of these stories and characters.

Marvel embraced their "comic bookiness" and have made some fun, popular, loved movies because of it.
 
2014-08-25 02:30:20 AM  

jayphat: Aside from Don Cheadle taking over from Terrance Howard, there hasn't been a single major change to the rest of the MCU movies to date like this,


Edward Norton was very publicly replaced by Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner and Patty Jenkins was the original director of Thor: The Dark World for a good long while until she backed out over "creative differences," in such a manor that Natalie Portman was said to be looking for a way out of her Marvel contract over the situation.
 
2014-08-25 04:16:35 AM  

WilderKWight: * The Badoon don't exist at all. Neither, apparently, do the Skrulls.


I don't know who the Badoon are, but I thought the Chi'tau'ri were the Skrulls
 
2014-08-25 04:27:07 AM  

smd31: Cruddy website there...ads everywhere and couldn't even read the article.


I had to close one ad, then close another ad, as one opened in front of another.
 
2014-08-25 04:57:27 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Post- anger management training?

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What is this? A center for ants?
 
2014-08-25 05:34:16 AM  

Mentat: Trocadero: Hell, Janet came up w/ the damn name the Avengers.

For all we know, she still did.


WilderKWight: Hey, yeah. Since she never became the Wasp, she might have been the fashion designer for S.H.E.I.L.D. or something.


With the aging up of Hank, I'm wondering if they'll use him in the Agent Carter series.
Would be cool if he was some smart kid that Howard takes in to mentor.

The 'Avengers Initiative' was named before the Avengers movie.
 
2014-08-25 07:14:12 AM  

WilderKWight: Hey, yeah. Since she never became the Wasp, she might have been the fashion designer for S.H.E.I.L.D. or something.


We don't know that either.
 
2014-08-25 07:35:21 AM  
Hank was at his best biatch slapping Hawkeye as Yellowjacket
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Henry Pym,always in second place in the Avengers. Not as smart or successful as Tony Stark, Or as powerful as Thor,and lacking the reputation of Captain America. As YellowJacket he stepped up and kick ass.
 
2014-08-25 08:17:42 AM  

Colour_out_of_Space: Vlad_the_Inaner: Post- anger management training?

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Thank you. You made my day.
 
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