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(The Atlantic)   "We should stop dehumanizing Ebola victims," says person about the disease-infected carriers of the most dangerous virus known to man   (theatlantic.com) divider line 127
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2014-08-23 12:55:18 PM  
"the most dangerous virus known to man"

Ummmmmmmmm....
 
2014-08-23 01:11:42 PM  

ginandbacon: "the most dangerous virus known to man"

Ummmmmmmmm....


Yeah... that got a WTF? out of me, too
 
2014-08-23 01:20:22 PM  
Known to which man? Probably not a man who's a virologist. But if it's just some guy at the grocery store, sure.
 
2014-08-23 01:36:56 PM  

Cake Hunter: Known to which man? Probably not a man who's a virologist. But if it's just some guy at the grocery store, sure.


Well, to the man currently bleeding from his eyeballs it probably is.
 
2014-08-23 01:43:14 PM  
Wait 'til this biatch evolves and goes airborne. Mother Nature is always trying to figure out ways to thin out the herds. She'll figure it out eventually.
 
2014-08-23 01:50:01 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: ginandbacon: "the most dangerous virus known to man"

Ummmmmmmmm....

Yeah... that got a WTF? out of me, too


Some people don't science much.
 
2014-08-23 01:50:44 PM  

namegoeshere: Cake Hunter: Known to which man? Probably not a man who's a virologist. But if it's just some guy at the grocery store, sure.

Well, to the man currently bleeding from his eyeballs it probably is.


Whoa. That guy should definitely not be at the grocery store then.
 
2014-08-23 03:23:28 PM  
In America, Ebola is 0/2.
 
2014-08-23 03:31:41 PM  
Oh... I see what you did there.  That was a joke.
 
2014-08-23 03:31:50 PM  
The most dangerous virus? You mean smallpox? We got that one locked down...
 
2014-08-23 03:34:20 PM  
I caught it in a jungle down in Afrtica
Where I started puking blood, and they told me that I had Ebola
E - B - O - L - A
Ebola
E - B - O - L - A
Ebola
 
2014-08-23 03:35:06 PM  

deadsanta: The most dangerous virus? You mean smallpox? We got that one locked down...


in the janitor's closet...
 
2014-08-23 03:37:38 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Wait 'til this biatch evolves and goes airborne. Mother Nature is always trying to figure out ways to thin out the herds. She'll figure it out eventually.


Yeah...how about she cuts funding to that wing for a few centuries.

If nothing else, with the way some of our more enlightened members of society Ade acting, the problem will self-correct, and in a much more beneficial manner, before Captain Trips needs to come into play.
 
2014-08-23 03:37:55 PM  
Even influenza's gotta be a million times worse than ebola.
 
2014-08-23 03:39:07 PM  

Clutch2013: ecmoRandomNumbers: Wait 'til this biatch evolves and goes airborne. Mother Nature is always trying to figure out ways to thin out the herds. She'll figure it out eventually.

Yeah...how about she cuts funding to that wing for a few centuries.

If nothing else, with the way some of our more enlightened members of society Ade acting, the problem will self-correct, and in a much more beneficial manner, before Captain Trips needs to come into play.


"...are acting." "ARE acting."

Goddamn, Android.
 
2014-08-23 03:39:48 PM  
If you are reading Fark and have bleeding from the eyeballs, chances are it's probably not ebola.
 
2014-08-23 03:40:49 PM  
Stop dehumanizing Ebola victims? This is Fark, we can't even stop dehumanizing each other, let alone your supposed "victims"

/ok, I made myself laugh.
//easily amused
 
2014-08-23 03:46:33 PM  

studebaker hoch: I caught it in a jungle down in Afrtica
Where I started puking blood, and they told me that I had Ebola
E - B - O - L - A
Ebola
E - B - O - L - A
Ebola


Nah, needs to be set to Toto

I hear the drums echoing tonight
But she hears only whispers through the Level 5 containment room.
She's coming in, quarantine flight.
The moonlit wings reflect the light that shows me our impending doom.

I stop an old man along the way
Hoping to buy some latex gloves and immune system booster shots
He turned to me as if to say
Hurry boy, you're pre-symptomatic!

It's gonna kill a lot of people this year
It's spreading fast, and even faster spreads the fear
I got Ebola in Africa!
 
2014-08-23 03:52:34 PM  
I understand where he is coming from, because these people had families, and someone loved them.

However this is the guy that would probably store zombies in a barn.
 
2014-08-23 03:54:14 PM  

Russ1642: Even influenza's gotta be a million times worse than ebola.


Meh, I've had the flu many times in my life. Ebola, not so much.
 
2014-08-23 03:55:12 PM  
1918 H1N1 says: mere thousands, dead, subby?

Try tens of millions, then talk to us again.
 
2014-08-23 03:55:43 PM  

Cake Hunter: namegoeshere: Cake Hunter: Known to which man? Probably not a man who's a virologist. But if it's just some guy at the grocery store, sure.

Well, to the man currently bleeding from his eyeballs it probably is.

Whoa. That guy should definitely not be at the grocery store then.


Do you expect me to bag my own groceries? I don't think so, peasant.
 
2014-08-23 03:57:59 PM  

69gnarkill69: Russ1642: Even influenza's gotta be a million times worse than ebola.

Meh, I've had the flu many times in my life. Ebola, not so much.


Influenza =/= typical stomach flu..For instance, the 1918 influenza epidemic killed ~75 million people. "Stomach flu" is a different thing altogether, and not a problem.
 
2014-08-23 03:58:31 PM  

Antilope: If you are reading Fark and have bleeding from the eyeballs, chances are it's probably not ebola.


ya, you most likely clicked on a submission that had 'hot' in the title
 
2014-08-23 04:00:08 PM  

Antilope: If you are reading Fark and have bleeding from the eyeballs, chances are it's probably not ebola.


That would be the politics tab.
 
2014-08-23 04:01:27 PM  
Anyone ever seen/heard the musical, the book of Mormon?

Mormon religious mythologies are rewritten to African experiences get Africans to relate to the religion.

How does get the point across to Africans, "don't touch the body of those that have/had ebola, that is how you will die from it just like them!"?

Per my understanding if it wasn't for African traditions, Ebola isn't that effective of a virus because it can't live outside the body and only spreads in specific ways.
 
2014-08-23 04:02:24 PM  

Russ1642: Even influenza's gotta be a million times worse than ebola.


Came to say this.

Spanish Flu

Ebola has a pretty high mortality rate and it's rather scary symptom-wise, but it's hardly the deadliest virus known to man, not by a long shot.
 
2014-08-23 04:02:25 PM  

Russ1642: Even influenza's gotta be a million times worse than ebola.


www.geekmelange.com

At least on a case by case (individual)  basis.

Ebola is being given a 90% mortality rate.  H1N1 was said to have a 2% severe illness rate, much less death.

It's big picture population where influenza racks up the big point.
 
2014-08-23 04:03:41 PM  
Subby, line 1. It's the Spanish Flu, he wants to have a word with you.
 
2014-08-23 04:04:00 PM  

veale728: 69gnarkill69: Russ1642: Even influenza's gotta be a million times worse than ebola.

Meh, I've had the flu many times in my life. Ebola, not so much.

Influenza =/= typical stomach flu..For instance, the 1918 influenza epidemic killed ~75 million people. "Stomach flu" is a different thing altogether, and not a problem.


Only killed the weak. Those that survived passed on those Chuck Norris genes to their progeny.  And here we are.
 
2014-08-23 04:04:59 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: ginandbacon: "the most dangerous virus known to man"

Ummmmmmmmm....

Yeah... that got a WTF? out of me, too


That whole headline is full of trolly fail.
 
2014-08-23 04:11:37 PM  
I am sorry, but when your ignorant, backwards cultural practices are hindering saving your lives and ending the epidemic, you get dehumanized.  I don't care if you have a family, have hopes and dreams and a life, it becomes all becomes irrelevant. You are not a person if you are infected with Ebola, you are a biological weapon that is a potential danger to all around you so you lose your rights until you succumb to the disease and are safely disposed of or are rendered safe by surviving the infection and are unable to transmit it.

We have to get over this idea that public health emergencies have to be politically correct and sensitive to the community.  If you do this, you allow the disease to get a foothold and spread. This is a great trial run for the coming pandemics and we as a society are failing miserably. If we can't handle containing a difficult to spread disease like Ebola, how the heck can we minimize the impact if something like smallpox or the 1918 flu was spreading?
 
2014-08-23 04:12:30 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Wait 'til this biatch evolves and goes airborne. Mother Nature is always trying to figure out ways to thin out the herds. She'll figure it out eventually.


That is not how evolution works.

For it to evolve to go airborne, it would have to go through a *number* of mutations (including ones that would make it more resilliant to exposure to the outside atmosphere), which could in turn do things like "Make it easier for the human body to recognize it." There is not a farking "BECOME AIRBORRNNEEE" gene. There ARE protiens that, say, code for the thickness of the shell surrounding the virus-but thicking or strengthening or altering that shell could *VASTLY* alter the viability of the virus.

/Note: Not a biologist or Virologist.

To quote alpha centauri:

"Remember, genes are NOT blueprints. That means you can't, for example, insert "the genes for an elephant's trunk" into a giraffe and get a giraffe with a trunk. There -are- no genes for trunks. What you CAN do with genes is chemistry, since DNA codes for chemicals. For instance, we can in theory splice the native plants' talent for nitrogen fixation into a terran plant."
Academician Prokhor Zakharov,
"Nonlinear Genetics"
 
2014-08-23 04:14:02 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Russ1642: Even influenza's gotta be a million times worse than ebola.

[www.geekmelange.com image 651x420]

At least on a case by case (individual)  basis.

Ebola is being given a 90% mortality rate.  H1N1 was said to have a 2% severe illness rate, much less death.

It's big picture population where influenza racks up the big point.


Right, but one of the ways it GETS that big picture population is via being far more transmissible.
 
2014-08-23 04:20:44 PM  
My pastor said that the ebola is because the muslims made sex with monkeys and the monkeys have them the ebola and now the muslims are bringing the ebola and shuhria law here because they hate freedom. We hafta kill the evil doers and teach them to stop covering monkeys and taking His name in vain and blow up Mecha so that the ebola don't come here the way that bird flu came and shut down the state fair three summers ago when .38 special played a free show and i got stuck eating a corn dog on the ferris wheel with my best pal mike. That's what my pastor said.
 
2014-08-23 04:22:18 PM  

Felgraf: Vlad_the_Inaner: Russ1642: Even influenza's gotta be a million times worse than ebola.

[www.geekmelange.com image 651x420]

At least on a case by case (individual)  basis.

Ebola is being given a 90% mortality rate.  H1N1 was said to have a 2% severe illness rate, much less death.

It's big picture population where influenza racks up the big point.

Right, but one of the ways it GETS that big picture population is via being far more transmissible.


Just saying that if I was given a choice between being sneezed on by a flu victim, bled on by an Ebola victim, and a default choice of being shot in the head, I'd choose the sneeze every time.

How about you?
 
2014-08-23 04:24:58 PM  
"Deadliest" is a meaningless statement. Highest case fatality rate? That belongs to rabies which was 100% once you are symptomatic up until this decade. Number of folks killed? That would be smallpox: killed hundreds of millions of people for our entire history until it's eradication.

This is science: words mean stuff and legit characteristics are quantifiable
 
2014-08-23 04:26:32 PM  

Felgraf: ecmoRandomNumbers: Wait 'til this biatch evolves and goes airborne. Mother Nature is always trying to figure out ways to thin out the herds. She'll figure it out eventually.

That is not how evolution works.

For it to evolve to go airborne, it would have to go through a *number* of mutations (including ones that would make it more resilliant to exposure to the outside atmosphere), which could in turn do things like "Make it easier for the human body to recognize it." There is not a farking "BECOME AIRBORRNNEEE" gene. There ARE protiens that, say, code for the thickness of the shell surrounding the virus-but thicking or strengthening or altering that shell could *VASTLY* alter the viability of the virus.

/Note: Not a biologist or Virologist.

To quote alpha centauri:

"Remember, genes are NOT blueprints. That means you can't, for example, insert "the genes for an elephant's trunk" into a giraffe and get a giraffe with a trunk. There -are- no genes for trunks. What you CAN do with genes is chemistry, since DNA codes for chemicals. For instance, we can in theory splice the native plants' talent for nitrogen fixation into a terran plant."
Academician Prokhor Zakharov,
"Nonlinear Genetics"


So, you are telling us Ebola can not change/mutate it's inherited characteristics over successive generations and even possibly become airborne?
 
2014-08-23 04:28:08 PM  

Wicked Chinchilla: "Deadliest" is a meaningless statement. Highest case fatality rate? That belongs to rabies which was 100% once you are symptomatic up until this decade. Number of folks killed? That would be smallpox: killed hundreds of millions of people for our entire history until it's eradication.


This. Smallpox is so bad that we came together, collectively as a species, and eradicated it save for some select samples. Well the samples and the archeological digs that are unearthing it again.
 
2014-08-23 04:30:39 PM  

69gnarkill69: So, you are telling us Ebola can not change/mutate it's inherited characteristics over successive generations and even possibly become airborne?


I'd speculate it'd evolve faster if it stopped killing 90% of its vectors first.
 
2014-08-23 04:37:19 PM  
Everything is wrong with that headline.
 
2014-08-23 04:41:28 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: 69gnarkill69: So, you are telling us Ebola can not change/mutate it's inherited characteristics over successive generations and even possibly become airborne?

I'd speculate it'd evolve faster if it stopped killing 90% of its vectors first.


Yeah, I get it.  I just hate it when people speak in absolutes.  Like ecmoRandomNumbers posted, Mother Nature is always trying to figure out ways to thin the herds.  We haven't seen nuth'n yet.
 
2014-08-23 04:43:00 PM  
FTA: Treating patients like disease carriers-rather than like people with emotions, families, and cultural beliefs-is a harmful public- health strategy

I submit that anything but treating them like disease-carrying people with emotions, families, and cultural beliefs is a harmful public health strategy.
 
2014-08-23 04:50:02 PM  
My husband's a microbiologist, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2014-08-23 04:50:44 PM  
Ebola does a pretty good job of dehumanizing Ebola victims.
 
2014-08-23 04:52:33 PM  
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2014-08-23 04:53:20 PM  

phalaeo: My husband's a microbiologist, so I'm getting a kick...


Not good enough!  We need sub-atomic biologists; quantum biologists!!
 
2014-08-23 04:57:29 PM  

ginandbacon: MaudlinMutantMollusk: ginandbacon: "the most dangerous virus known to man"

Ummmmmmmmm....

Yeah... that got a WTF? out of me, too

Some people don't science much.


oi57.tinypic.com
 
2014-08-23 05:00:59 PM  

TheOther: phalaeo: My husband's a microbiologist, so I'm getting a kick...

Not good enough!  We need sub-atomic biologists; quantum biologists!!


Nonsense. I rely on people who say things like, "I'm no biologist, but I just think that...".
 
2014-08-23 05:03:47 PM  

69gnarkill69: Vlad_the_Inaner: 69gnarkill69: So, you are telling us Ebola can not change/mutate it's inherited characteristics over successive generations and even possibly become airborne?

I'd speculate it'd evolve faster if it stopped killing 90% of its vectors first.

Yeah, I get it.  I just hate it when people speak in absolutes.  Like ecmoRandomNumbers posted, Mother Nature is always trying to figure out ways to thin the herds.  We haven't seen nuth'n yet.


So evolution is magic because you say so and Mother Nature is coming to get us. Brilliant.
 
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