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2014-08-23 11:48:20 AM  
The Kaled-Thal war on Skaro
 
2014-08-23 11:59:40 AM  
static.comicvine.com
Garbage cans with disco lights........very scary.
 
2014-08-23 12:11:13 PM  
A wizard did it
 
2014-08-23 01:37:02 PM  
An ancient race that comes from the planet Zhopvaccia.
 
2014-08-23 01:40:52 PM  
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wee
2014-08-23 02:25:30 PM  
All you need to defeat that entire race is a flight of stairs...
 
2014-08-23 02:41:56 PM  

wee: All you need to defeat that entire race is a flight of stairs...


Daleks can fly now.

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Though, it did take them a while...

Stoopid time travelers.
 
2014-08-23 02:42:32 PM  

wee: All you need to defeat that entire race is a flight of stairs...


They can fly now.  Also the obvious answer to the question is Davros.
 
2014-08-23 02:45:30 PM  
Damn you hubiestubert.
 
2014-08-23 02:53:53 PM  
I always figured they were a group of disillusioned timelords that provoked a conflict with the others and lost, which Davros took advantage of.
 
2014-08-23 03:07:54 PM  
obvious answer is obvious
violent amoral race with time travel can go anywhere and anywhen and steal whatever it finds
duh
 
2014-08-23 03:15:53 PM  
They don't spend most of their time thinking about sex.
 
2014-08-23 03:21:12 PM  
Anyone watching the BBC version right now? I won't post spoilers, enjoy the show tonight if there's a thread
 
2014-08-23 03:28:56 PM  

TheManofPA: Anyone watching the BBC version right now? I won't post spoilers, enjoy the show tonight if there's a thread


I would be doing the VPN thing to get BBC on my computer, but I just recently got cable TV, so I can wait 6 more hours.  Not that I will trust your opinion of the show, but how is it (in general terms)?
 
2014-08-23 03:50:50 PM  

Panty Sniffer: Not that I will trust your opinion of the show, but how is it (in general terms)?


Speaking as someone who watched it already: it's a little twee, a bit of a re-run of a Tennant-era episode, and there are some serious problems with their attempts to characterize Clara (since she hasn't been shown to have any character thus far, they resort to  telling us the character traits she has, at least for this episode). Despite the flaws, Capaldi carries it confidently. He's easily the best thing about the story.
 
2014-08-23 03:51:35 PM  

wee: All you need to defeat that entire race is a flight of stairs...


Daleks: why climb stairs when you can vaporize the entire building?
 
2014-08-23 04:10:24 PM  

t3knomanser: Speaking as someone who watched it already: it's a little twee, a bit of a re-run of a Tennant-era episode, and there are some serious problems with their attempts to characterize Clara (since she hasn't been shown to have any character thus far, they resort to telling us the character traits she has, at least for this episode). Despite the flaws, Capaldi carries it confidently. He's easily the best thing about the story.


Works for me.  I feel bad for the actress that plays Clara (Jenna Coleman) as she got stuck in a stupid roll.  The whole thing was silly.  It is not her fault.  I blame Moffat.  She was great as "Souffle Girl" then it went downhill from there.  She must have realized this as she quit the show.

Then again she is cute as a button.
 
2014-08-23 04:13:28 PM  
Not to be Geeky, but there were two races powerful enough to be on the level of Daleks. There were the Movelians (aka, the Cornrow-Bots) and even further back were the Mekons, who were robots created by Earth humans BTW.

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2014-08-23 04:23:38 PM  
Is this the thread for the Doctor Who Series 8 premiere tonight?

I'm looking forward to it, going to a Who-themed party.
 
2014-08-23 04:31:36 PM  

Panty Sniffer: t3knomanser: Speaking as someone who watched it already: it's a little twee, a bit of a re-run of a Tennant-era episode, and there are some serious problems with their attempts to characterize Clara (since she hasn't been shown to have any character thus far, they resort to telling us the character traits she has, at least for this episode). Despite the flaws, Capaldi carries it confidently. He's easily the best thing about the story.

Works for me.  I feel bad for the actress that plays Clara (Jenna Coleman) as she got stuck in a stupid roll.  The whole thing was silly.  It is not her fault.  I blame Moffat.  She was great as "Souffle Girl" then it went downhill from there.  She must have realized this as she quit the show.

Then again she is cute as a button.


Yeah, about that. Only the tabloids are claiming it as a definite thing she's quit. Why don't we get through this season to see if it's actually going to happen.
 
2014-08-23 04:38:31 PM  

BohemianGraham: Yeah, about that. Only the tabloids are claiming it as a definite thing she's quit. Why don't we get through this season to see if it's actually going to happen.


Good point.  Everyone involved in Doctor Who is a proud liar and the British rags like to make sh*t up.  She would be good if her origins were explained and went on to be a regular companion instead of the impossible girl.  That story arc did not work.
 
2014-08-23 04:38:49 PM  
I am going to feel bad for some of the people who will watch for the first time tonight.

IMO, It was a really great episode with a dramatic change of pace. BUT I think people are going to hate it. Reddit and 4chan are pretty much divided (mostly because the pace was REALLY slowed down on this one). But I thought it was a 8.5 out of 10 episode.
 
2014-08-23 04:42:50 PM  

Panty Sniffer: TheManofPA: Anyone watching the BBC version right now? I won't post spoilers, enjoy the show tonight if there's a thread

I would be doing the VPN thing to get BBC on my computer, but I just recently got cable TV, so I can wait 6 more hours.  Not that I will trust your opinion of the show, but how is it (in general terms)?


I enjoyed it. Different style but it fits as it is a different doctor. As per usual after episode 1, I"m interested to see where they go with some things. Can't go into more details without giving anything away. Have fun tonight.
 
2014-08-23 04:44:13 PM  
The original Daleks were easier to tip over than Wheeley bins. Once down they were pretty much helpless. I don't know why the rest of the sentient universe didn't destroy them at that stage. Probably because they were so pathetic. They mad even the most lameoid species feel better about themselves. Heck, even humans were fighting machines compared to them. Doctor Who could defeat them with the help of a little girl and two Roombas. But  I would have killed them for their handicapped parking spaces.
 
2014-08-23 04:47:50 PM  
The Daleks ... from the Assisted Living Nebula ...
 
2014-08-23 04:50:13 PM  
There was a lady claiming to be a psychic that called into the Darkness Radio show out of Minneapolis this week and she said she thinks Daleks are real. She doesn't get that feeling from the rest of the monsters on the show but she was concerned about Daleks eventually coming after us.
 
2014-08-23 05:02:30 PM  

t3knomanser: Panty Sniffer: Not that I will trust your opinion of the show, but how is it (in general terms)?

Speaking as someone who watched it already: it's a little twee, a bit of a re-run of a Tennant-era episode, and there are some serious problems with their attempts to characterize Clara (since she hasn't been shown to have any character thus far, they resort to  telling us the character traits she has, at least for this episode). Despite the flaws, Capaldi carries it confidently. He's easily the best thing about the story.


This.

Just saw it at the movie theatre at the same time it was on BBC; Big thanks to Belgian Whovians United!
 
2014-08-23 05:09:49 PM  

Panty Sniffer: t3knomanser: Speaking as someone who watched it already: it's a little twee, a bit of a re-run of a Tennant-era episode, and there are some serious problems with their attempts to characterize Clara (since she hasn't been shown to have any character thus far, they resort to telling us the character traits she has, at least for this episode). Despite the flaws, Capaldi carries it confidently. He's easily the best thing about the story.

Works for me.  I feel bad for the actress that plays Clara (Jenna Coleman) as she got stuck in a stupid roll.  The whole thing was silly.  It is not her fault.  I blame Moffat.  She was great as "Souffle Girl" then it went downhill from there.  She must have realized this as she quit the show.

Then again she is cute as a button.


Can't blame an actor for hanging onto a regular paying gig for maybe a wee bit too long but agreed, she really started off strong with an interesting character and then scripts went downhill- what happened with Martha Jones.
 
2014-08-23 05:12:42 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Not to be Geeky, but there were two races powerful enough to be on the level of Daleks. There were the Movelians (aka, the Cornrow-Bots) and even further back were the Mekons, who were robots created by Earth humans BTW.

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I might be confusing noncanon fiction with canon fiction but weren't the Movellians creations of the Daleks?

As for the Daleks they did have a world war that jumpstarted their technological development (along with having Davros in tow) but I figured they just developed their own tech and acquired even more technology from weaker races they conquered etc.
 
2014-08-23 05:22:52 PM  

BohemianGraham: Yeah, about that. Only the tabloids are claiming it as a definite thing she's quit. Why don't we get through this season to see if it's actually going to happen.


The same tabloids which were the ones to break the stories about Smith's, Gillan's, and Darvill's departures, and being replaced by Coleman and Capaldi? "Just the tabloids" indeed.

And, a word about tonight's episode, streamed it live. I thought it was fantastic. Nice callbacks to previous episodes and Doctors, had some good laughs, and was all around a solid episode with good characterization and some very strong performances, and to top it all off a  real story about regeneration and the Doctor's identity for a freaking change. Capaldi absolutely, positively nails that shiat. I'm sure the nu-Who fans will hate it.

Easily the weakest parts of the episode were the slapstick and blatant fanservice. I'll admit I tried  very hard to not laugh and tut-tut Clara getting socked in the face (and failed), though. The surprise cameo at the end was pretty brazen, though...I definitely didn't find it all that great.
 
2014-08-23 05:31:40 PM  
...and an afterthought.

Was I the only one who noticed the resemblance between Michelle Gomez ("Missy") and Kate O'Mara?
 
2014-08-23 05:46:27 PM  
there really is nothing more pathetic than dr who fans.
 
2014-08-23 05:48:09 PM  

that bosnian sniper: BohemianGraham: Yeah, about that. Only the tabloids are claiming it as a definite thing she's quit. Why don't we get through this season to see if it's actually going to happen.

The same tabloids which were the ones to break the stories about Smith's, Gillan's, and Darvill's departures, and being replaced by Coleman and Capaldi? "Just the tabloids" indeed.

And, a word about tonight's episode, streamed it live. I thought it was fantastic. Nice callbacks to previous episodes and Doctors, had some good laughs, and was all around a solid episode with good characterization and some very strong performances, and to top it all off a  real story about regeneration and the Doctor's identity for a freaking change. Capaldi absolutely, positively nails that shiat. I'm sure the nu-Who fans will hate it.

Easily the weakest parts of the episode were the slapstick and blatant fanservice. I'll admit I tried  very hard to not laugh and tut-tut Clara getting socked in the face (and failed), though. The surprise cameo at the end was pretty brazen, though...I definitely didn't find it all that great.


I have issues with British tabloids for so many reasons, and there have been times where they have been ridicuously wrong and/or over the top with nastiness.

If she leaves, she leaves, but I'd still like to watch the series without this crap. It's convenient that the tabloids broke this news right around the premiere, isn't it?

I enjoyed Deep Breath. I already enjoy Capaldi more than Smith, and Smith is my favourite of NuWho. Tennant is my least.

Overall, Pertwee, McCoy, and Troughton are my top 3 though.
 
2014-08-23 06:06:13 PM  
FFS, it's a children's TV show. Stop analyzing it.
 
2014-08-23 06:06:23 PM  

BohemianGraham: I have issues with British tabloids for so many reasons, and there have been times where they have been ridicuously wrong and/or over the top with nastiness.

If she leaves, she leaves, but I'd still like to watch the series without this crap. It's convenient that the tabloids broke this news right around the premiere, isn't it?

I enjoyed Deep Breath. I already enjoy Capaldi more than Smith, and Smith is my favourite of NuWho. Tennant is my least.

Overall, Pertwee, McCoy, and Troughton are my top 3 though.


Well, that particular problem is easily enough resolved: stay away from the tabloids. All in all, I have  very little respect for the nu-Who fandom and tend to stay away at all costs (unless there's schadenfreude to be had), and that's just not a problem for me despite having to grit my teeth through portions of the show clearly intended for that audience.

Like, for example, this episode's cameo and the more gonzo aspects of the Paternoster gang.

I'll freely grant the tabloids can be very nasty, and they often do get (at least minor) things wrong...but when it comes to the big stuff like casting and managerial changes, they're shockingly accurate for being tabloids. If Mirror says Jenna Coleman is leaving, considering the fact they broke at least half the stories I mentioned beforehand (I think it was the Sun that broke Smith's departure, and Coleman's casting), I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until official word comes down on high.

That said, I do thoroughly enjoy Pertwee's, McCoy's, and Troughton's performances...Pertwee less so, because I could never quite buy his more flamboyant portrayal (even though I think the Pertwee era was one of the best in terms of storytelling). Baker was my doctor, though.
 
2014-08-23 06:07:42 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Not to be Geeky, but there were two races powerful enough to be on the level of Daleks. There were the Movelians (aka, the Cornrow-Bots) and even further back were the Mekons, who were robots created by Earth humans BTW.

[dalstonsuperstore.com image 500x246]

[img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 637x466]


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hk_c6e7gv0
 
2014-08-23 06:08:44 PM  

some_beer_drinker: there really is nothing more pathetic than dr who fans.


except for alcoholics
 
2014-08-23 06:09:35 PM  
The Dalek Bible. There's only one commandment, so there was space for a bit of tech.
 
2014-08-23 06:18:41 PM  
Universal Will to Become?
 
2014-08-23 06:28:18 PM  

some_beer_drinker: there really is nothing more pathetic than dr who fans.


*Doctor
 
2014-08-23 06:30:05 PM  

BohemianGraham: that bosnian sniper: BohemianGraham: Yeah, about that. Only the tabloids are claiming it as a definite thing she's quit. Why don't we get through this season to see if it's actually going to happen.

The same tabloids which were the ones to break the stories about Smith's, Gillan's, and Darvill's departures, and being replaced by Coleman and Capaldi? "Just the tabloids" indeed.

And, a word about tonight's episode, streamed it live. I thought it was fantastic. Nice callbacks to previous episodes and Doctors, had some good laughs, and was all around a solid episode with good characterization and some very strong performances, and to top it all off a  real story about regeneration and the Doctor's identity for a freaking change. Capaldi absolutely, positively nails that shiat. I'm sure the nu-Who fans will hate it.

Easily the weakest parts of the episode were the slapstick and blatant fanservice. I'll admit I tried  very hard to not laugh and tut-tut Clara getting socked in the face (and failed), though. The surprise cameo at the end was pretty brazen, though...I definitely didn't find it all that great.

I have issues with British tabloids for so many reasons, and there have been times where they have been ridicuously wrong and/or over the top with nastiness.

If she leaves, she leaves, but I'd still like to watch the series without this crap. It's convenient that the tabloids broke this news right around the premiere, isn't it?

I enjoyed Deep Breath. I already enjoy Capaldi more than Smith, and Smith is my favourite of NuWho. Tennant is my least.

Overall, Pertwee, McCoy, and Troughton are my top 3 though.


For me, in the older series, it's Baker and the highly underrated McGann. He really deserves more credit than receives.
 
2014-08-23 06:34:01 PM  

that bosnian sniper: BohemianGraham: I have issues with British tabloids for so many reasons, and there have been times where they have been ridicuously wrong and/or over the top with nastiness.

If she leaves, she leaves, but I'd still like to watch the series without this crap. It's convenient that the tabloids broke this news right around the premiere, isn't it?

I enjoyed Deep Breath. I already enjoy Capaldi more than Smith, and Smith is my favourite of NuWho. Tennant is my least.

Overall, Pertwee, McCoy, and Troughton are my top 3 though.

Well, that particular problem is easily enough resolved: stay away from the tabloids. All in all, I have  very little respect for the nu-Who fandom and tend to stay away at all costs (unless there's schadenfreude to be had), and that's just not a problem for me despite having to grit my teeth through portions of the show clearly intended for that audience.

Like, for example, this episode's cameo and the more gonzo aspects of the Paternoster gang.

I'll freely grant the tabloids can be very nasty, and they often do get (at least minor) things wrong...but when it comes to the big stuff like casting and managerial changes, they're shockingly accurate for being tabloids. If Mirror says Jenna Coleman is leaving, considering the fact they broke at least half the stories I mentioned beforehand (I think it was the Sun that broke Smith's departure, and Coleman's casting), I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until official word comes down on high.

That said, I do thoroughly enjoy Pertwee's, McCoy's, and Troughton's performances...Pertwee less so, because I could never quite buy his more flamboyant portrayal (even though I think the Pertwee era was one of the best in terms of storytelling). Baker was my doctor, though.


I admit Eccleston was my first lengthy exposure to Who, but Pertwee and Liz Shaw were my first exposure to Classic Who, so I'm a bit of a sentimentalist. :) I used to really like Peter Davidson and David Tennant, but after rewatching them in my massive 800 episodes (well, 97 were screencaps with audio) marathon leading up to Deep Breath, I find that they just don't hold up all that well.

Pertwee, McCoy, Troughton, Smith, Hartnell, Hurt, Eccleston, McGann, Tom Baker, Davidson, Tennant, Colin Baker at the moment, though Capaldi is most likely going bump Smith into 5th place by the end of this series.

I just found Smith to be far more tolerable, and I fail to see the hate for Moffat, Smith, Amy, and his plots. Why does everyone love Rose, RTD, and Tennant so much? It really doesn't hold up all that well.

And I do avoid the tabloids, but every single Doctor Who discussion ends up discussing Clara leaving and how it's a good thing because Moffat is a hack and he needs to leave too. :) Moffat is far from perfect, and he's done some bad stuff, but he has less bad stuff than RTD. There's been nothing these past few seasons that have sunk to the depths of Love and Monsters, The Last of the Time Lords, or the End of Time.
 
2014-08-23 06:36:04 PM  

jayphat: BohemianGraham: that bosnian sniper: BohemianGraham: Yeah, about that. Only the tabloids are claiming it as a definite thing she's quit. Why don't we get through this season to see if it's actually going to happen.

The same tabloids which were the ones to break the stories about Smith's, Gillan's, and Darvill's departures, and being replaced by Coleman and Capaldi? "Just the tabloids" indeed.

And, a word about tonight's episode, streamed it live. I thought it was fantastic. Nice callbacks to previous episodes and Doctors, had some good laughs, and was all around a solid episode with good characterization and some very strong performances, and to top it all off a  real story about regeneration and the Doctor's identity for a freaking change. Capaldi absolutely, positively nails that shiat. I'm sure the nu-Who fans will hate it.

Easily the weakest parts of the episode were the slapstick and blatant fanservice. I'll admit I tried  very hard to not laugh and tut-tut Clara getting socked in the face (and failed), though. The surprise cameo at the end was pretty brazen, though...I definitely didn't find it all that great.

I have issues with British tabloids for so many reasons, and there have been times where they have been ridicuously wrong and/or over the top with nastiness.

If she leaves, she leaves, but I'd still like to watch the series without this crap. It's convenient that the tabloids broke this news right around the premiere, isn't it?

I enjoyed Deep Breath. I already enjoy Capaldi more than Smith, and Smith is my favourite of NuWho. Tennant is my least.

Overall, Pertwee, McCoy, and Troughton are my top 3 though.

For me, in the older series, it's Baker and the highly underrated McGann. He really deserves more credit than receives.


I did like McGann, and I'm going to move onto the audio adventures from Big Finish soon.  That might also change my ranking. The audio adventures might also cause me to reconsider ranking Colin Baker dead last.
 
2014-08-23 06:44:10 PM  

some_beer_drinker: there really is nothing more pathetic than dr who fans.


Other than people who come into Doctor Who threads to whine about how pathetic Doctor Who fans are.
 
2014-08-23 06:56:33 PM  

BohemianGraham: I admit Eccleston was my first lengthy exposure to Who [...] There's been nothing these past few seasons that have sunk to the depths of Love and Monsters, The Last of the Time Lords, or the End of Time.


Honestly, when Doctor Who went back on the air, Eccleston's performance turned me off the show (and the Tennant fandom kept me off it) until Smith's appearance, after which I went back and actually took the time to watch seasons 1-4. Eccleston's performance definitely grew on me, though while I can appreciate Tennant's performance I still don't like Ten. Ten, for me, had the same issues as Six -- sanctimonious and condescending without reason. I get that was the entire point, and I can appreciate the strength of Tennant's performance on that basis, but that doesn't mean I have to like the character.

Late series 3 and 4 were the nadir of nu-Who as far as I'm concerned, which is a real shame because Catherine Tate was fantastic as Donna. Tate as Donna, Freema Agyeman as Martha, and Coleman as Clara all had the same problem -- interesting characters, crap writing and development made worse by lackluster stories. I do have a strange fondness for all three of those episodes you mentioned for their pure camp value, though (who can possibly hate Dobby-Doctor and Timothy Dalton unabashedly feasting upon scenery?).

I do think it's time for Moffat to step down as showrunner, though. Series 7 definitely wore a little stale.
 
2014-08-23 07:07:10 PM  

TheManofPA: Panty Sniffer: TheManofPA: Anyone watching the BBC version right now? I won't post spoilers, enjoy the show tonight if there's a thread

I would be doing the VPN thing to get BBC on my computer, but I just recently got cable TV, so I can wait 6 more hours.  Not that I will trust your opinion of the show, but how is it (in general terms)?

I enjoyed it. Different style but it fits as it is a different doctor. As per usual after episode 1, I"m interested to see where they go with some things. Can't go into more details without giving anything away. Have fun tonight.


My biggest problem with it was the "Boink" sound effect. The rest of it seemed ok. Not great, but not terrible. I felt PC nailed it, though.
 
2014-08-23 07:08:56 PM  

Panty Sniffer: TheManofPA: Anyone watching the BBC version right now? I won't post spoilers, enjoy the show tonight if there's a thread

I would be doing the VPN thing to get BBC on my computer, but I just recently got cable TV, so I can wait 6 more hours.  Not that I will trust your opinion of the show, but how is it (in general terms)?


Will BBC America do it normal tactic of cutting scenes to fit in more commercials?
 
2014-08-23 07:10:49 PM  

hubiestubert: Daleks can fly now.


Daleks could fly back in the 1960s; they just couldn't show it on screen.  Check out The Chase and you'll see at least one scene (on a boat) where they clearly have gotten up a flight of stairs without problems.

They used platforms in Planet of the Daleks in the 70s (mostly) on-screen as well.

/PEDADTINATE!
 
2014-08-23 07:24:17 PM  

that bosnian sniper: BohemianGraham: I admit Eccleston was my first lengthy exposure to Who [...] There's been nothing these past few seasons that have sunk to the depths of Love and Monsters, The Last of the Time Lords, or the End of Time.

Honestly, when Doctor Who went back on the air, Eccleston's performance turned me off the show (and the Tennant fandom kept me off it) until Smith's appearance, after which I went back and actually took the time to watch seasons 1-4. Eccleston's performance definitely grew on me, though while I can appreciate Tennant's performance I still don't like Ten. Ten, for me, had the same issues as Six -- sanctimonious and condescending without reason. I get that was the entire point, and I can appreciate the strength of Tennant's performance on that basis, but that doesn't mean I have to like the character.

Late series 3 and 4 were the nadir of nu-Who as far as I'm concerned, which is a real shame because Catherine Tate was fantastic as Donna. Tate as Donna, Freema Agyeman as Martha, and Coleman as Clara all had the same problem -- interesting characters, crap writing and development made worse by lackluster stories. I do have a strange fondness for all three of those episodes you mentioned for their pure camp value, though (who can possibly hate Dobby-Doctor and Timothy Dalton unabashedly feasting upon scenery?).

I do think it's time for Moffat to step down as showrunner, though. Series 7 definitely wore a little stale.


Yeah, Tennant is second to last for me, and I also found him to be far too much like Colin Baker, especially within The Waters of Mars and his "Timelord Victorious" bullshiat. I have heard Colin Baker is better in the audio adventures, but his TV run has coloured my perception of him. His stories were weak, and he was a smug, arrogant, arsehole. His companions were also weak. I know a lot of Farkers love Peri, but only because of her looks. She was useless and whiny.

I'm willing to see where things go with Capaldi before I want Moffat to step down. Last season was not as enjoyable as 5 and 6, but there were still some highlights. Dinosaurs on a Spaceship is one of my favourites, because it's utterly ridiculous.
 
2014-08-23 07:38:56 PM  

BohemianGraham: I'm willing to see where things go with Capaldi before I want Moffat to step down. Last season was not as enjoyable as 5 and 6, but there were still some highlights. Dinosaurs on a Spaceship is one of my favourites, because it's utterly ridiculous.


I'm apprehensive, but withholding judgment, as to season 8 under Moffat so far. His continuation of the "most specialest girl in the universe" trend that needed to go along with RTD really grated on my nerves, and his mythos-building and super-arcs really wore thin for me after the story arc C.F. that was the end of series 6.  Time of the Doctor, to me, was a real letdown and indulgence on Moffat's part to celebrate the most grating aspects of his time as showrunner, especially when the episode brought up some  very interesting potential story arcs and implications that seem to have been killed in the cradle.

I really want to see where this "Missy" arc goes. If my gut reaction to seeing the character for the first time is vindicated, series 8 could be very,  very good (or very,  very bad considering how RTD screwed up the Master). I just hope one way or the other, Moffat pushes the button by the end of series 8 and brings back Gallifrey.
 
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