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(BBC-US)   Saving the planet will get a little easier soon now that the evil scourge of high powered vacuum users will be put to an end   (bbc.com) divider line 68
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2014-08-23 05:41:26 AM
That sucks.
 
2014-08-23 05:50:37 AM

Ambivalence: That sucks.


Damn it, I came here to make that same joke.
 
2014-08-23 05:59:35 AM

criscodisco: Ambivalence: That sucks.

Damn it, I came here to make that same joke.


:P~~~
 
2014-08-23 07:19:22 AM
Can they still flush a standard size load down the toilet?
 
2014-08-23 07:25:59 AM

flucto: Can they still flush a standard size load down the toilet?


only if they push the "full moon" button on the toilet (dual flush toilets).
 
2014-08-23 07:36:26 AM

Ambivalence: only if they push the "full moon" button on the toilet (dual flush toilets).


I love the "symbolically dilute my pee" button.
 
2014-08-23 08:07:30 AM
Uses half the energy. Takes twice as long. Win?
 
2014-08-23 08:28:11 AM
Thanks, Ocameron.
 
2014-08-23 08:40:11 AM
I will never feel clean again, now that I can't own a vacuum that can suck the toes off my bare feet.

/Never had a vacuum over 1200 watts, and they all worked just fine.
 
2014-08-23 08:47:19 AM
Somebody's going to make a fortune smuggling vacuum cleaners into the EU.
 
2014-08-23 08:52:15 AM

Gecko Gingrich: Uses half the energy. Takes twice as long. Win?


For full irony, it needs to take so much longer that the total energy consumed is actually greater than with the higher-wattage vacuum. Which is entirely possible.

/Yes, I sometimes go full irony.
 
2014-08-23 08:52:24 AM

Ambivalence: criscodisco: Ambivalence: That sucks.

Damn it, I came here to make that same joke.

:P~~~


It, sucks that I came here just to say that
 
2014-08-23 08:52:25 AM
This is going to backfire like low-flow toilets.
People will use the low power vacuums for a longer time to get the same work done, using even more electricity in the process.
But then, efficiency and politics have never gone together.
 
2014-08-23 08:53:56 AM
Last time I checked, cleaning ability is not measured in watts.

These motors are incredibly overpowered for push vacuums, all they're doing is generating more noise and heat. A 2100W push vacuum is nothing more than a marketing gimmick.
 
2014-08-23 08:56:07 AM
Did my cat write this headline?
 
2014-08-23 08:56:27 AM
Actually, it doesn't suck.
 
2014-08-23 08:58:06 AM

DogBoyTheCat: This is going to backfire like low-flow toilets.
People will use the low power vacuums for a longer time to get the same work done, using even more electricity in the process.
But then, efficiency and politics have never gone together.


There's a reason most of Europe smells like poo.
 
2014-08-23 08:58:28 AM

criscodisco: Ambivalence: That sucks.

Damn it, I came here to make that same joke.


I suspect we all will, this is an echo chamber not a vacuum, except on the politics tab which sucks and blows at the same time
 
2014-08-23 09:00:55 AM

jehovahs witness protection: Actually, it doesn't suck.


Well, surely, because it doesn't blow as hard either..
 
2014-08-23 09:02:34 AM
Hoover - based in South Wales

You know who else is based in South Wales.

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2014-08-23 09:04:07 AM

cryinoutloud: I will never feel clean again, now that I can't own a vacuum that can suck the toes off my bare feet.

/Never had a vacuum over 1200 watts, and they all worked just fine.


Well good for farking you!  I'm so sick of this argument or retort or whatever you want to call it.  I've personally gone through 4 or 5 vacuums that didn't do the job until I got my Dyson animal.  So which of us is right?  Maybe, juuuust maybe, situations are different for each person.  For instance, I'm guessing you don't have two German Shepherds like I do.  Keep your vacuum if it does the job for you, ok.  But fark off if you want to take mine from me just because you think it's unnecessary.
 
2014-08-23 09:05:27 AM
Europe having problems with their electricity grid?
 
2014-08-23 09:07:25 AM

FilmBELOH20: Well good for farking you! I'm so sick of this argument or retort or whatever you want to call it. I've personally gone through 4 or 5 vacuums that didn't do the job until I got my Dyson animal. So which of us is right?


TFA: No models made by Dyson are affected, as all the motors on their machines are below 1600w.

So, um.. good point?
 
M-G
2014-08-23 09:10:00 AM

FilmBELOH20: But fark off if you want to take mine from me just because you think it's unnecessary.


If you RTFA, you'll see that all Dyson models are already below the threshold.  So no one is going to take your overhyped piece of plastic away.
 
2014-08-23 09:16:14 AM

Ker_Thwap: Europe having problems with their electricity grid?


More with their politicians.
 
2014-08-23 09:16:56 AM
 It's Mega Maid. She's gone from suck to blow.
 
2014-08-23 09:18:20 AM
I really don't like the EU.

People don't talk about it much, but half the appliances here are pretty much worthless.  They have some regulation that requires a certain level of energy efficiency - which sounds great.  But they forget to mention that THEY DON'T WORK.  I'm used to low-end cheap stuff from Walmart, and the items I've purchased here are SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive than what I had in the US.  But they really don't work.

My vacuum cleaner is a joke.  It makes noise and if you put your hand on it, you can feel some suction....but if you try to vacuum the carpet, when you finish, it looks like you didn't vacuum.  It's so bad that I'll have to use the 'hose' part of it instead of pushing it like you should.  It ends up taking three times as long and it still looks like crap.  But, it's 30% more energy efficient (ignoring the 3x time wasted).

Same deal with the clothes dryer.  In the US, I'd toss a load of clothes into the dryer, 40 minutes later, they are all dry.  Completely dry.  Here - after 60 minutes - the clothes are COMPLETELY WET.  It's just, they are warm and wet instead of cold and wet.  You can break it into two loads, and dry each one for an hour and it's *mostly* sorta almost dry.

Dishwasher is the same story.  It's so bad, we just stopped using it.
 
2014-08-23 09:18:37 AM

FilmBELOH20: Well good for farking you! I'm so sick of this argument or retort or whatever you want to call it. I've personally gone through 4 or 5 vacuums that didn't do the job until I got my Dyson animal. So which of us is right? Maybe, juuuust maybe, situations are different for each person. For instance, I'm guessing you don't have two German Shepherds like I do. Keep your vacuum if it does the job for you, ok. But fark off if you want to take mine from me just because you think it's unnecessary.


Or maybe it's this, and you're just a consumer whore:

Joe USer: Last time I checked, cleaning ability is not measured in watts.These motors are incredibly overpowered for push vacuums, all they're doing is generating more noise and heat. A 2100W push vacuum is nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

 
2014-08-23 09:23:03 AM
Europeans will do nothing about this. They will just submit. All too many Americans submit to capricious, unnecessary and foolish regulation also.

"I am not blaming those who are resolved to rule, only those who show an even greater readiness to submit." - Thucydides
 
2014-08-23 09:29:11 AM
So instead of cleaning something up in two minutes with a 1600+ watt vacuum,  you'll spend five trying to do it with one under 1600 watts.  No waste of energy there.
 
2014-08-23 09:29:19 AM
It's not the first time that I have the feeling that the cats are taking over the EU.

Americans beware, you are next.
 
2014-08-23 09:31:32 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I really don't like the EU.

People don't talk about it much, but half the appliances here are pretty much worthless.  They have some regulation that requires a certain level of energy efficiency - which sounds great.  But they forget to mention that THEY DON'T WORK.  I'm used to low-end cheap stuff from Walmart, and the items I've purchased here are SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive than what I had in the US.  But they really don't work.

My vacuum cleaner is a joke.  It makes noise and if you put your hand on it, you can feel some suction....but if you try to vacuum the carpet, when you finish, it looks like you didn't vacuum.  It's so bad that I'll have to use the 'hose' part of it instead of pushing it like you should.  It ends up taking three times as long and it still looks like crap.  But, it's 30% more energy efficient (ignoring the 3x time wasted).

Same deal with the clothes dryer.  In the US, I'd toss a load of clothes into the dryer, 40 minutes later, they are all dry.  Completely dry.  Here - after 60 minutes - the clothes are COMPLETELY WET.  It's just, they are warm and wet instead of cold and wet.  You can break it into two loads, and dry each one for an hour and it's *mostly* sorta almost dry.

Dishwasher is the same story.  It's so bad, we just stopped using it.


You're supposed to dry your clothes on a line. Only Americans use dryers.
 
2014-08-23 09:34:17 AM

flucto: Ambivalence: only if they push the "full moon" button on the toilet (dual flush toilets).

I love the "symbolically dilute my pee" button.


This^

I stopped using the smaller flush on my dual flush toilets when I realized they were making the bowls dirty very quick from not actually flushing all the piss away.

Good jorb terlet makers.
 
2014-08-23 09:45:33 AM

Cybernetic: /Yes, I sometimes go full irony.


Dude.
 
2014-08-23 09:46:51 AM

Boo_Guy: flucto: Ambivalence: only if they push the "full moon" button on the toilet (dual flush toilets).

I love the "symbolically dilute my pee" button.

This^

I stopped using the smaller flush on my dual flush toilets when I realized they were making the bowls dirty very quick from not actually flushing all the piss away.

Good jorb terlet makers.


I would never use low-flow toilets (or shower heads, for that matter). While they are illegal to make or sell, there's no law against using the old ones. When I moved a few years ago, I replaced all the toilets and shower heads and brought the old ones to my new house.
 
2014-08-23 09:49:48 AM

Katie98_KT: Fark_Guy_Rob: I really don't like the EU.

People don't talk about it much, but half the appliances here are pretty much worthless.  They have some regulation that requires a certain level of energy efficiency - which sounds great.  But they forget to mention that THEY DON'T WORK.  I'm used to low-end cheap stuff from Walmart, and the items I've purchased here are SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive than what I had in the US.  But they really don't work.

My vacuum cleaner is a joke.  It makes noise and if you put your hand on it, you can feel some suction....but if you try to vacuum the carpet, when you finish, it looks like you didn't vacuum.  It's so bad that I'll have to use the 'hose' part of it instead of pushing it like you should.  It ends up taking three times as long and it still looks like crap.  But, it's 30% more energy efficient (ignoring the 3x time wasted).

Same deal with the clothes dryer.  In the US, I'd toss a load of clothes into the dryer, 40 minutes later, they are all dry.  Completely dry.  Here - after 60 minutes - the clothes are COMPLETELY WET.  It's just, they are warm and wet instead of cold and wet.  You can break it into two loads, and dry each one for an hour and it's *mostly* sorta almost dry.

Dishwasher is the same story.  It's so bad, we just stopped using it.

You're supposed to dry your clothes on a line. Only Americans use dryers.


People say that - but the last two apartments I've rented in Dublin have had combo washer/dryer appliances.  I didn't go out and special order a dryer from the United States so I could dry my clothes.  I rented an apartment, and it had a dryer.

It just so happens that the dryer works so poorly, nobody uses them.

As a result, yes, we do have one of those foldable clothes racks.  It's pretty ridiculous though; drying clothes takes a day instead of 40 minutes and it takes up a significant amount of space too.  I also used to get away without ironing any of my clothes.  I have a 'business casual' office type job, and in the US, I'd pull my shirts out of the dryer, hang them up, and they were pretty good.  Here, after drying for a day, all of my shirts are wrinkled to the point where I'd need to iron them before wearing them to the office.

But yes, my point remains, while they can claim to be more energy efficient, the appliances are worthless because they don't work.
 
2014-08-23 09:53:58 AM
Uses vacuum w/ plenty of watts

/3-1000Z
//life is too short for QRP
 
2014-08-23 09:57:24 AM

DrPainMD: Boo_Guy: flucto: Ambivalence: only if they push the "full moon" button on the toilet (dual flush toilets).

I love the "symbolically dilute my pee" button.

This^

I stopped using the smaller flush on my dual flush toilets when I realized they were making the bowls dirty very quick from not actually flushing all the piss away.

Good jorb terlet makers.

I would never use low-flow toilets (or shower heads, for that matter). While they are illegal to make or sell, there's no law against using the old ones. When I moved a few years ago, I replaced all the toilets and shower heads and brought the old ones to my new house.


The full flush works pretty well,  it's just the half flush that's useless on these.  This house is only 3 years old so the low flows in it aren't the abominations that they first came out with,

Shower heads can be modified,  there's a rubber piece in them that ups the flow rate when removed.
 
2014-08-23 10:02:20 AM
What is a vacuum cleaner doing with all that extra wattage? There is, at most, 15 psi of pressure it can impart at sea level.
 
2014-08-23 10:09:44 AM

Evil Twin Skippy: There is, at most, 15 psi of pressure it can impart at sea level.


This statement has the rare ability to be simultaneously 100% true, 100% missing the point and 100% the point.

/14.7
//15.5...if you're vacuuming at the Dead Sea.
 
2014-08-23 10:39:04 AM
Saving the planet...

mybroadband.co.za
 
2014-08-23 10:39:26 AM

DrPainMD: shower heads, for that matter


remove or open up the restrictor and it resolves that issue

On a low flow shower head I bought the restrictor was just inside the head, and could be pulled out with a pair of needle nose pliers.

/if I want to be more then dribbled on by my shower I have to do this
//my well doesn't put out the same pressure as municipal water lines
 
2014-08-23 10:39:55 AM

FilmBELOH20: cryinoutloud: I will never feel clean again, now that I can't own a vacuum that can suck the toes off my bare feet.

/Never had a vacuum over 1200 watts, and they all worked just fine.

Well good for farking you!  I'm so sick of this argument or retort or whatever you want to call it.  I've personally gone through 4 or 5 vacuums that didn't do the job until I got my Dyson animal.  So which of us is right?  Maybe, juuuust maybe, situations are different for each person.  For instance, I'm guessing you don't have two German Shepherds like I do.  Keep your vacuum if it does the job for you, ok.  But fark off if you want to take mine from me just because you think it's unnecessary.


Wait, when did this become a Fark Gun Thread?
 
2014-08-23 10:41:49 AM

TwistedIvory: Wait, when did this become a Fark Gun Thread?


it's a vacuum cleaner snob thread

at least it's not beer or liquor, i suspect people get hurt over those threads
 
2014-08-23 10:44:21 AM

Evil Twin Skippy: What is a vacuum cleaner doing with all that extra wattage? There is, at most, 15 psi of pressure it can impart at sea level.


A vacuum has suction, not pressure. No wonder your place is always a mess, you have the hose shoved in the wrong end.
You're just blowing it all around.

/at least they're not quite as useless as a carpet sweeper
//yet
 
2014-08-23 10:46:27 AM

DigitalCoffee: A vacuum has suction, not pressure.


Let's all try not to laugh too hard at the ignorant.
 
2014-08-23 10:51:46 AM

DigitalCoffee: Evil Twin Skippy: What is a vacuum cleaner doing with all that extra wattage? There is, at most, 15 psi of pressure it can impart at sea level.

A vacuum has suction, not pressure. No wonder your place is always a mess, you have the hose shoved in the wrong end.
You're just blowing it all around.

/at least they're not quite as useless as a carpet sweeper
//yet


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2014-08-23 10:54:13 AM

Evil Twin Skippy: What is a vacuum cleaner doing with all that extra wattage? There is, at most, 15 psi of pressure it can impart at sea level.


Power imparted to fluid flow is equal to volumetric flow rate x pressure

/look, the vacuum picks up a bowling ball with a nearly sealed funnel. It's awesome, order now
 
2014-08-23 10:55:03 AM
This is an outrage! Now it will take much longer for me to reach orgasm!
 
2014-08-23 10:56:49 AM
If the appliances don't work, why don't they replace the motors with a sound effect generator and save EVEN MORE ENERGY???
 
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