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(WTVR)   Parents turn 13-year-old daughter in to police for texting nude photos of herself to classmates, haven't quite thought through the fact that they will probably have to support a registered sex offender forever   (wtvr.com) divider line 161
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2014-08-23 09:39:14 AM  
Clearly, this child is a monster and deserves to be on the same list as actual rapists or child molesters, with the same consequences.

Jesus, America's legal system is so farked.
 
2014-08-23 09:41:12 AM  
Tuff luv.
 
2014-08-23 09:43:40 AM  

cryinoutloud: True, so the damage isn't permanent. I'm sure she'll be a wiser and better adult after five years in juvie.

without a high school diploma, any shot at college, and a reputation for doing a dumb thing at age 13 that harmed no one that will stay with her for a very long time.


/fixed that for you
//you're welcome
 
2014-08-23 09:43:46 AM  
Even the prosecutor said she would go to a diversion program
 
2014-08-23 09:43:48 AM  

LordJiro: Jesus, America's legal system is so farked.


Farked, so is, systemlegal, America's Jesus.
 
2014-08-23 09:45:12 AM  
Her parents are sending out an SOS.
 
2014-08-23 09:45:16 AM  
I say good for these parents. They took responsibility of parenting and protecting their child, no matter the consequences. And they are making their child take responsibility for her actions. We need more adults like these.
 
2014-08-23 09:47:02 AM  
"We did this now to protect her for now and in the future, because this could get worse. She could be taken," she said

She's going to be taken, alright.  The system will chew her up and spit her back out as damaged goods.
 
2014-08-23 09:47:43 AM  

Baron Harkonnen: cryinoutloud: True, so the damage isn't permanent. I'm sure she'll be a wiser and better adult after five years in juvie. without a high school diploma, any shot at college, and a reputation for doing a dumb thing at age 13 that harmed no one that will stay with her for a very long time.
/fixed that for you
//you're welcome


Someone irreparably damaged your sarcasometer when you were young, didn't they? It's OK, honey, it's OK--we still accept you.
 
2014-08-23 09:49:51 AM  
Hardcore
 
2014-08-23 09:50:17 AM  

MutantMotherMouse: I say good for these parents. They took responsibility of parenting and protecting their child, no matter the consequences. And they are making their child take responsibility for her actions. We need more adults like these.


Ummmm...she had a camera phone with paid data service why exactly? I'm betting this wasn't the first behavioral problem they had with her and I'm certain they didn't call police on her first nude photo offense. Why the hell did she still have a phone?
 
2014-08-23 09:50:54 AM  
"Please put parental controls on everything. I was informed that if you take it to the store... wherever store you buy it from, they can put all kinds of locks and controls in place, so that they can't access these apps," she said.

Haha, ok. The only way to lock a tablet or smartphone so it can't be used to communicate sexually explicit messages to other people is to completely disconnect it from the internet and cellular networks, which makes it a basically a shiny plastic paperweight.
 
2014-08-23 09:51:03 AM  

MutantMotherMouse: I say good for these parents. They took responsibility of parenting and protecting their child, no matter the consequences. And they are making their child take responsibility for her actions. We need more adults like these.


Depends a little on her prior behavior, and their reaction to it.  It's the age of pushing the envelope.

Having never been a parent, nothing first hand here, but the last thing I'd do is involve another party, especially cops, in the disciplining of my child.

These parents are immature themselves, probably.
 
2014-08-23 09:55:08 AM  

MutantMotherMouse: I say good for these parents. They took responsibility of parenting and protecting their child, no matter the consequences. And they are making their child take responsibility for her actions. We need more adults like these.


If they're such good parents, they should have tried to handle it first without bringing in the law. Calling the police is the last resort, not the first. And they raised the little fark, so just throwing her into the system is kind of not taking responsibility for their own actions. At 13, she's still young enough to be grounded, have all electronics taken away from her, be forced into counseling. And if that doesn't work, and the predators start showing up at the door, then you call the authorities.
 
2014-08-23 09:57:45 AM  

Baron Harkonnen: without a high school diploma, any shot at college, and a reputation for doing a dumb thing at age 13 that harmed no one that will stay with her for a very long time.


She can always be a stripper. She already has a portfolio,
 
2014-08-23 10:00:28 AM  

oukewldave: Her parents are sending out an SOS.


to you. Message in a bottle...
 
2014-08-23 10:01:06 AM  

Baron Harkonnen: cryinoutloud: True, so the damage isn't permanent. I'm sure she'll be a wiser and better adult after five years in juvie. without a high school diploma, any shot at college, and a reputation for doing a dumb thing at age 13 that harmed no one that will stay with her for a very long time.


/fixed that for you
//you're welcome


Everyone talks as if the parents are evil and she will be sent to Greenville Prison. I think it is more in the line of her safety; those pics are floating around now and will be obtained by pedos OR boys looking to get a piece, whether she wants them to or not. She is obviously trying to be accepted by the "cool people" and has gone about it in a stupid way. She needs some type of counseling and will probably get that instead of a record.

/Kids that age are deemed too young to drive, vote, own property or make rational, adult decisions. Why is it ok for her to send out naked pictures and engage in an act that could produce another child for her to care for?
 
2014-08-23 10:01:39 AM  
What's Sting going to do with a 13-year-old who likes to get nude. Perhaps R. Kelly would have been a better choice.
 
2014-08-23 10:03:14 AM  

MutantMotherMouse: I say good for these parents. They took responsibility of parenting and protecting their child, no matter the consequences. And they are making their child take responsibility for her actions. We need more adults like these.


Sorry but they just killed any chance at a future for this kid.

There should be something written into the child porn laws that make the penalty community service for sending a picture of yourself if you are underage. Or if you're under age and receive a picture you get the same.
 
2014-08-23 10:07:39 AM  

Delta1212: "Please put parental controls on everything. I was informed that if you take it to the store... wherever store you buy it from, they can put all kinds of locks and controls in place, so that they can't access these apps," she said.

Haha, ok. The only way to lock a tablet or smartphone so it can't be used to communicate sexually explicit messages to other people is to completely disconnect it from the internet and cellular networks, which makes it a basically a shiny plastic paperweight.


I think she needs to talk to several school districts who "locked down" the laptops, iPads, and other devices with internet access, only to have the kids bypass the locks pretty quickly.

I have been trying to find a way to allow my kids to "text" over an iPod that I can monitor without having physical access to the device. It's a PITA.
 
2014-08-23 10:07:54 AM  

LordJiro: Clearly, this child is a monster and deserves to be on the same list as actual rapists or child molesters, with the same consequences.

Jesus, America's legal system is so farked.


The article doesn't say she was added to the sex offender list...
 
2014-08-23 10:09:18 AM  
If the kid does end up on a sex offender registry, she wouldn't be allowed closer than 100 feet of a school.  Victory for homeschooling.
 
2014-08-23 10:09:26 AM  

MutantMotherMouse: I say good for these parents. They took responsibility of parenting and protecting their child, no matter the consequences to the child.


FTFY.

And they are making their child take responsibility for her actions. We need more adults like these.

1/10. Because my first thought was "must be kidding," which you really must be. You're not really serious, are you? Please?

MooseBayou:

These parents are immature themselves, probably.

"Probably?" Water is probably wet, too. This is an incredibly stupid thing for a parent to do. Did they even consider finding out what might happen if they did that?

See what I mean when I say parenting should be a licensed profession like dentistry, or a least licensed activity like driving?
 
2014-08-23 10:09:38 AM  

Lee451: Everyone talks as if the parents are evil and she will be sent to Greenville Prison. I think it is more in the line of her safety; those pics are floating around now and will be obtained by pedos OR boys looking to get a piece, whether she wants them to or not. She is obviously trying to be accepted by the "cool people" and has gone about it in a stupid way. She needs some type of counseling and will probably get that instead of a record.

/Kids that age are deemed too young to drive, vote, own property or make rational, adult decisions. Why is it ok for her to send out naked pictures and engage in an act that could produce another child for her to care for?


What I was saying, as you'd realize if you'd been paying attention to context, is that what the criminal justice system may do to her might dwarf the consequences of her own bad decision-making.
 
2014-08-23 10:11:35 AM  
I guess you could try talking to your kids? Naw just skip that and have them arrested. Brilliant!
 
2014-08-23 10:13:16 AM  
Parents treating their children as criminals for being sexual beings.
Great.
We've come exactly nowhere in fifty years.
 
2014-08-23 10:15:30 AM  
Bunch of parents report their kids in on all kinds of things.  Normally middle class religious parents, who have been naive and sheltered their whole life, and don't know how to handle their kids getting into normal teenage problems without freaking out and assuming the worse was happening.  I knew one woman who was convinced that her son was a drug dealer, because she found a few joints in his room on a couple of times.  Another time, he sneaked off to Atlanta with some friends, and she was convinced it was to run drugs.  She was blathering about how he was probably driving back to Florida with a trunk full of drugs, to which I told her she was an idiot.  Drugs go the other direction from Florida.  We are an entry point, not a final destination.
 
2014-08-23 10:15:37 AM  

Shotgun Justice: Even the prosecutor said she would go to a diversion program


I think you were the only one who read the article.
 
2014-08-23 10:16:37 AM  

fatty.fauntleroy: MutantMotherMouse: I say good for these parents. They took responsibility of parenting and protecting their child, no matter the consequences. And they are making their child take responsibility for her actions. We need more adults like these.

Ummmm...she had a camera phone with paid data service why exactly? I'm betting this wasn't the first behavioral problem they had with her and I'm certain they didn't call police on her first nude photo offense. Why the hell did she still have a phone?


Yay someone with sense! No 13 year old of mine will have a cell phone. I grew up in an era if you wanted to talk on the phone you did it in the living room. No dirty talk and certainly no nudie pics that way.

/get off my lawn
 
2014-08-23 10:17:56 AM  

cryinoutloud: I'm sure she'll be a wiser and better adult after five years in juvie.


or:

"What's called diversion in the juvenile justice system. That's a 12 week program and it would be group classes. The parents would get involved [and] there would be some counseling," Caruso said.
 
2014-08-23 10:19:00 AM  

youmightberight: There should be something written into the child porn laws that make the penalty community service for sending a picture of yourself if you are underage.


"I'm doing this for carrying a knife to school. What about you?"

"I sent nude pics of myself all over."

Can you get her a gag order? A ball-gag order? She's probably stupid enough to brag, thereby increasing demand for a repeat performance. At least.

Yeah, community service. Hasn't she served her community enough?

"Howcum nobody told me there's no actual sex allowed in the Champagne Room? I'll bet all my customers knew that! By the way, has anybody seen the keys to my Maserati?"
 
2014-08-23 10:21:54 AM  
I had a dad turn in his son for stealing about $600 from he grandmother. Explained it was a felony to him and he said he'd had enough of paying for what the kid steals.
 
2014-08-23 10:21:59 AM  
The kid is a girl, not a boy. There's no chance in hell that she winds up on the registry.
 
2014-08-23 10:23:41 AM  
Well that explains why the pictures stopped showing up.
 
2014-08-23 10:23:58 AM  

doomjesse: No 13 year old of mine will have a cell phone. I grew up in an era if you wanted to talk on the phone you did it in the living room. No dirty talk and certainly no nudie pics that way.


When I was 13 I was making out with my "harem" in the living room. All my sister's friends knew I could be had, and that I wouldn't make them "go all the way." Not in my parents' living room at least.

It's a good thing I started young because I was washed up by 35.
 
2014-08-23 10:25:24 AM  

RINO: The kid is a girl, not a boy. There's no chance in hell that she winds up on the registry.


Why is there not a "That's sexism!" GIF?
 
2014-08-23 10:27:22 AM  

RINO: The kid is a girl, not a boy. There's no chance in hell that she winds up on the registry.


Probably true.  But every boy that she was trading pictures, doing the exact same thing she was doing, will be.
 
2014-08-23 10:27:25 AM  
These are the types of parents who would turn Helen Keller over to the Nazis.
 
2014-08-23 10:28:50 AM  

The One True TheDavid: RINO: The kid is a girl, not a boy. There's no chance in hell that she winds up on the registry.

Why is there not a "That's sexism!" GIF?


Because Fark 3.0, apparently.
 
2014-08-23 10:28:59 AM  
Baron Harkonnen: cryinoutloud: True, so the damage isn't permanent. I'm sure she'll be a wiser and better adult after five years in juvie. without a high school diploma, any shot at college, and a reputation for doing a dumb thing at age 13 that harmed no one that will stay with her for a very long time.
/fixed that for you
//you're welcome

Someone irreparably damaged your sarcasometer when you were young, didn't they? It's OK, honey, it's OK--we still accept you.


Before you start criticizing my sarcastometer, consider how many people would have used those same exact words and meant it without any sarcasm at all.
 
2014-08-23 10:29:22 AM  
A 13 yr old that needs acceptance and attention so badly she's sending pictures of her barely even adolescent body around school needs to be away from her parents for a while.
 
2014-08-23 10:32:10 AM  
If (God forbid) I had a 13 year old daughter and I saw a naked picture of her I'd call a therapist (for myself), not the cops.
 
2014-08-23 10:32:21 AM  
OTOH she could turn out to be the next Jen Selter.
 
2014-08-23 10:33:11 AM  

fatty.fauntleroy: MutantMotherMouse: I say good for these parents. They took responsibility of parenting and protecting their child, no matter the consequences. And they are making their child take responsibility for her actions. We need more adults like these.

Ummmm...she had a camera phone with paid data service why exactly? I'm betting this wasn't the first behavioral problem they had with her and I'm certain they didn't call police on her first nude photo offense. Why the hell did she still have a phone?


Maybe they had Wifi.

But why shouldn't she have paid data service?
 
2014-08-23 10:35:57 AM  

cryinoutloud: MutantMotherMouse: I say good for these parents. They took responsibility of parenting and protecting their child, no matter the consequences. And they are making their child take responsibility for her actions. We need more adults like these.

If they're such good parents, they should have tried to handle it first without bringing in the law. Calling the police is the last resort, not the first. And they raised the little fark, so just throwing her into the system is kind of not taking responsibility for their own actions. At 13, she's still young enough to be grounded, have all electronics taken away from her, be forced into counseling. And if that doesn't work, and the predators start showing up at the door, then you call the authorities.


The laws aren't perfect, so this could cause problems.  In effect the parents would have child porn in their home/distributed from their home, and facing jail time themselves.  If I were in the situation, I'd certainly consult an attorney rather than just dealing with it myself.

I am a little disturbed that someone leaked this to the press, publicity isn't going to help any of these kids.
 
2014-08-23 10:37:21 AM  

Ambivalence: ZAZ: Mugato

They wipe your record when you turn 18, but not your permanent record. That's why it's a permanent record. Because it doesn't get wiped.

but items can be sealed, even on the permanent record.


there is no such thing. they just say that to scare people.
 
2014-08-23 10:39:32 AM  

MutantMotherMouse: I say good for these parents. They took responsibility of parenting and protecting their child, no matter the consequences. And they are making their child take responsibility for her actions. We need more adults like these. and dumped it on the authorities instead of dealing with it like parents.


FTFY
 
2014-08-23 10:40:37 AM  
Another vote against the parents. Don't involve police in family matters. Teenagers will do stuff parents don't like. It's up to parents to say stop it and say why. If parents wimp out and say it's against the law, it doesn't have the same impact.

Besides, the sexting laws vary from state to state. Parents in PA are suing to have their kids removed from the 12 week diversion program. They hate it.
 
2014-08-23 10:42:31 AM  

ZAZ: Mugato

They wipe your record when you turn 18, but not your permanent record. That's why it's a permanent record. Because it doesn't get wiped.


And your permanent record is not the sex offender registry.  The registry is a record already open to the public.  Once out there, it is out there.  It's not going back in the bottle.  Go ahead and get your name removed and it is not on the list today?  Hmmm, let's see what was on the list yesterday.  Oh, looky here.
 
2014-08-23 10:42:44 AM  

Mugato: If (God forbid) I had a 13 year old daughter and I saw a naked picture of her I'd call a therapist (for myself), not the cops.


You should send one of the photos to me for advice on what to do.

'Does she have any where's not a "Schoolgirl?"' Maybe a Nurse. Or a Lunch Lady.


gadian: A 13 yr old that needs acceptance and attention so badly she's sending pictures of her barely even adolescent body around school needs to be away from her parents for a while.


Good point.

But don't assume her body is "barely even adolescent." I went to middle school school with a 6th-grader who was 12 and looked 18 IYKWIM: she got her first bra 9 and her period by 10.5, and at 12 was already being supplanted in her father' affections by her reproductively safer and less adult-looking 9 year old sister. He drove those girls to a lot of gymnastics practices, alright. Even welcome attention from a parent can be overdone. (No I don't have pics.)
 
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