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2014-08-23 01:36:12 PM  
how much less does it have to cost to build a part 10,000 miles away and then ship it?
always amazes me how cheap shipping is compared to tax breaks and cheap labor.
 
2014-08-23 02:16:41 PM  
Jetblue.
 
2014-08-23 02:22:58 PM  

namatad: how much less does it have to cost to build a part 10,000 miles away and then ship it?
always amazes me how cheap shipping is compared to tax breaks and cheap labor.


That's not really what happens.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-08-23 02:23:03 PM  
Boeing.  Renton, WA works.
 
2014-08-23 02:27:38 PM  

China White Tea: namatad: how much less does it have to cost to build a part 10,000 miles away and then ship it?
always amazes me how cheap shipping is compared to tax breaks and cheap labor.

That's not really what happens.


It still seems incredibly inefficient.
 
2014-08-23 02:42:33 PM  

Panty Sniffer: China White Tea: namatad: how much less does it have to cost to build a part 10,000 miles away and then ship it?
always amazes me how cheap shipping is compared to tax breaks and cheap labor.

That's not really what happens.

It still seems incredibly inefficient.


Nope.  These are college-educated people.  They took courses in management and so forth.  It's more complex than you think, but I am not extolling college-educated people.

Considering taxes and unions and educated work force and weather and government restrictions and overhead and transportation and community goodwill and employee demands and ... whew.  I'm just getting started.  Considering the obstacles to certain manufacturing operations, this is probably the most efficient way to accomplish.

I feel sure they have studied it out.
 
2014-08-23 02:43:56 PM  

MooseBayou: Panty Sniffer: China White Tea: namatad: how much less does it have to cost to build a part 10,000 miles away and then ship it?
always amazes me how cheap shipping is compared to tax breaks and cheap labor.

That's not really what happens.

It still seems incredibly inefficient.

Nope.  These are college-educated people.  They took courses in management and so forth.  It's more complex than you think, but I am not extolling college-educated people.

Considering taxes and unions and educated work force and weather and government restrictions and overhead and transportation and community goodwill and employee demands and ... whew.  I'm just getting started.  Considering the obstacles to certain manufacturing operations, this is probably the most efficient way to accomplish.

I feel sure they have studied it out.


It is possible that, without the astute guidance of Some Guy From the Internet, it simply hasn't occurred to them that there is a better way to do it.
 
2014-08-23 03:06:08 PM  
Pert chart
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Gantt chart
upload.wikimedia.org

It's a complicated structure when your building a tricycle, let a lone a jet airliner.
 
2014-08-23 03:10:11 PM  

China White Tea: MooseBayou: Panty Sniffer: China White Tea: namatad: how much less does it have to cost to build a part 10,000 miles away and then ship it?
always amazes me how cheap shipping is compared to tax breaks and cheap labor.

That's not really what happens.

It still seems incredibly inefficient.

Nope.  These are college-educated people.  They took courses in management and so forth.  It's more complex than you think, but I am not extolling college-educated people.

Considering taxes and unions and educated work force and weather and government restrictions and overhead and transportation and community goodwill and employee demands and ... whew.  I'm just getting started.  Considering the obstacles to certain manufacturing operations, this is probably the most efficient way to accomplish.

I feel sure they have studied it out.

It is possible that, without the astute guidance of Some Guy From the Internet, it simply hasn't occurred to them that there is a better way to do it.


"Why, that's the way we've always done it, son.  Now you scoot along, you hear?"
rufiojones.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-08-23 03:27:30 PM  
They started from a kit, that's cheating.
 
2014-08-23 04:01:33 PM  

namatad: how much less does it have to cost to build a part 10,000 miles away and then ship it?
always amazes me how cheap shipping is compared to tax breaks and cheap labor.


I saw the Dreamlifter at the Charleston SC airport and I was really puzzled by that thought.

"They fly 787 pieces cross-country one at a time? Really?

www.skilledpilots.com
 
2014-08-23 04:05:45 PM  
I liked the painting part best.
img.fark.net
 
2014-08-23 04:08:35 PM  

jaytkay: namatad: how much less does it have to cost to build a part 10,000 miles away and then ship it?
always amazes me how cheap shipping is compared to tax breaks and cheap labor.

I saw the Dreamlifter at the Charleston SC airport and I was really puzzled by that thought.

"They fly 787 pieces cross-country one at a time? Really?

[www.skilledpilots.com image 562x329]


You need to factor in the "break the union" part. Once that's complete the lower labor costs make up for shipping.
 
2014-08-23 04:35:47 PM  

jaytkay: namatad: how much less does it have to cost to build a part 10,000 miles away and then ship it?
always amazes me how cheap shipping is compared to tax breaks and cheap labor.

I saw the Dreamlifter at the Charleston SC airport and I was really puzzled by that thought.

"They fly 787 pieces cross-country one at a time? Really?

[www.skilledpilots.com image 562x329]


The beluga style.

Bulbous Bow.

Goodnight.
 
2014-08-23 04:38:09 PM  
Dafuq is up with the whalesong music?
 
2014-08-23 06:10:03 PM  

namatad: how much less does it have to cost to build a part 10,000 miles away and then ship it?
always amazes me how cheap shipping is compared to tax breaks and cheap labor.


I think it's more about politics than anything else. Since it's a EU project everyone expects some piece of the pie in building it. It's similar to the M1 Abrahms tank which probably has parts of it built in every state of the US.
 
2014-08-23 07:06:53 PM  

namatad: how much less does it have to cost to build a part 10,000 miles away and then ship it?
always amazes me how cheap shipping is compared to tax breaks and cheap labor.


It's not a matter of cost. EADS/Airbus is a consortium of European companies. And of course, each major country has to get a part of the action.

I don't know whether it costs them money, but it's not a cost saving measure.
 
2014-08-23 07:09:12 PM  

Chagrin: namatad: how much less does it have to cost to build a part 10,000 miles away and then ship it?
always amazes me how cheap shipping is compared to tax breaks and cheap labor.

I think it's more about politics than anything else. Since it's a EU project everyone expects some piece of the pie in building it. It's similar to the M1 Abrahms tank which probably has parts of it built in every state of the US.


It's not an EU project.
 
2014-08-23 09:29:52 PM  

jaytkay: namatad: how much less does it have to cost to build a part 10,000 miles away and then ship it?
always amazes me how cheap shipping is compared to tax breaks and cheap labor.

I saw the Dreamlifter at the Charleston SC airport and I was really puzzled by that thought.

"They fly 787 pieces cross-country one at a time? Really?

[www.skilledpilots.com image 562x329]


They use those to airlift 737 components out of the Spirit Aerosystems complex on the east side of Wichita.
 
2014-08-24 06:21:04 AM  

whither_apophis: You need to factor in the "break the union" part. Once that's complete the lower labor costs make up for shipping.


Boeing 'broke the union' to try to get cheap labor for the 787. That didn't work out for them so well. If they would have kept the contract hire jobs and accepted a higher labor cost, they would be well ahead of where they are now, not only in terms of the bottom line, but also in terms of human safety. Boeing risked lives and safety for profit, and it ended up turning out terribly for them.
 
2014-08-24 07:00:12 AM  
Not Pictured:  How to SELL the world's largest passenger jet.

/Airbus sucks
 
2014-08-24 08:56:25 AM  

Baron Harkonnen: whither_apophis: You need to factor in the "break the union" part. Once that's complete the lower labor costs make up for shipping.

Boeing 'broke the union' to try to get cheap labor for the 787. That didn't work out for them so well. If they would have kept the contract hire jobs and accepted a higher labor cost, they would be well ahead of where they are now, not only in terms of the bottom line, but also in terms of human safety. Boeing risked lives and safety for profit, and it ended up turning out terribly for them.


But that's clearly the unions fault.
 
2014-08-24 09:24:00 AM  
That was a metric assload of masking tape.
 
2014-08-24 09:52:06 PM  

kabar: Not Pictured: How to SELL the world's largest passenger jet.


They've already got enough firm orders to pay for the entire project, so really selling isn't a problem.
 
2014-08-24 09:55:58 PM  

Panty Sniffer: It still seems incredibly inefficient.


It actually avoids a big issue with production and that is getting all the raw materials to one place. Given that where the final assembly is carried out isn't a large urban area, the logistics of getting all sorts of parts there then storing them and then making subassemblies and all that, would actually make things fairly complicated. But if you declare, we make wings here, the fuselage there, source sub-assebly X over there etc it can actually make the overall workflow much smoother. Sure you can't just slap a finished wing on a truck, but the final shipping isn't really a big deal.
 
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