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(The New York Times)   Thanks to the tech industry, Burning Man has jumped the shark   (nytimes.com) divider line 92
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2014-08-23 10:32:20 AM
I'm pretty sure it jumped the shark several years back
 
2014-08-23 10:40:14 AM
"But now a new set of younger rich techies are heading east,"

I love it when Nevada is "heading east".
 
2014-08-23 10:53:44 AM

cretinbob: I'm pretty sure it jumped the shark several years back


Ever been?

And in answer to the article, let me link to someone who says it better than I could:

http://mashable.com/2014/08/22/burning-man-2014/
 
2014-08-23 11:55:11 AM
Thanks to being all about doing drugs in the desert for a week, Burning Man has jumped the shark.
 
2014-08-23 11:55:15 AM
i.chzbgr.com
 
2014-08-23 11:58:34 AM
So, commercial interest co-opt another subculture event, and people are surprised, why, exactly?
 
2014-08-23 11:58:35 AM
If I had a billion dollars, I would definitely build a land yacht like the one in the article.  Suck it poors!
 
2014-08-23 12:02:54 PM
The co-op of Burning Man by people with money. The biggest problem since the Ferguson Riots and ISIS in Syria.
 
2014-08-23 12:03:15 PM
I've never been.  I have, however, seen pictures of DJ gear after Burning Man, and, wow.  I'd hate to flush that much money in gear down the drain.
 
2014-08-23 12:03:59 PM
 
2014-08-23 12:04:04 PM
If you're just going to bring your normal lifestyle into the desert, then what's the point? I doubt that these millionaires just really like sand.
 
2014-08-23 12:06:08 PM
Fark you, rich tech guys for ruining some thing I will never go to, causing me extremely mild discomfort before clicking the next article...
 
2014-08-23 12:07:35 PM
That's okay. We 99-percenters still have the Gathering of the Juggalos to ourselves!
 
2014-08-23 12:08:26 PM
That does it!!  I'm bringing my video games, pot, Cup-o-Noodles, and wank-socks to the Country Club!  That'll show them rich bastards!
 
2014-08-23 12:12:10 PM
If you care that much about what others do at burning man, you are missing the point. If the fact that other people are enjoying it in a way you don't (or can't afford to) "ruins" it for you, you are an idiot or pretentious fool.
 
2014-08-23 12:15:05 PM

Dahnkster: Yeah, stay away. God forbid you see beautiful scantily clad women and men having fun. This Go-Pro Hula-cam of cute hula chicks is not for you! Also stay away from LOCKN', Wanee Fest, Coachella, and Bonnaroo None of these festivals are any fun at all. You look more like the type that would enjoy a corn maze. Ask yourself this, do you REALLY wanna be 'that guy' who never has fun at festivals because he's too busy judging everyone else's good time.

Warning super cute girls with barely covered breast hula hooping so possibly NSFW... and you're already clickin' the link aren't you?


Apparently I need to be on drugs to enjoy that.
 
2014-08-23 12:17:50 PM

Dahnkster: Yeah, stay away. God forbid you see beautiful scantily clad women and men having fun. This Go-Pro Hula-cam of cute hula chicks is not for you! Also stay away from LOCKN', Wanee Fest, Coachella, and Bonnaroo None of these festivals are any fun at all. You look more like the type that would enjoy a corn maze. Ask yourself this, do you REALLY wanna be 'that guy' who never has fun at festivals because he's too busy judging everyone else's good time.

Warning super cute girls with barely covered breast hula hooping so possibly NSFW... and you're already clickin' the link aren't you?


If only there was a place where I could see scantily clad women that didn't cost hundreds of dollars and also listen to good music the entire time.  What?  The internet and the beach?...

/Been to many festivals.  These kinds where rich and famous people show up to be seen and act like "just a regular person" aren't for me.
 
2014-08-23 12:19:50 PM
Grover Norquist (Americans for Tax Reform, the drown the government in the bathtub guy) is going this year. It's over.
 
2014-08-23 12:28:01 PM
working in the bay area tech industry, every year i have to hear about this thing. it sounds extremely boring.
 
2014-08-23 12:28:47 PM
Well there's always the gathering of the Juggalos if you really can't handle rich assholes ruining your festival.
 
2014-08-23 12:29:20 PM
a catchphrase in the Burner community is: "It was WAY better last year"

Burning Man has been accused of jumping the shark every year since 1996, and indeed  it IS very different every year. the city of 28,000 I went to in 99 and 2000 is was nothing like the city of 6000 that sprung up in the early 90s and I have no doubt is nothing like the 60,000 person city that will spring up this year

There has ALWAYS been money on the Playa, I have been handed an ice cream bar by Ben of Ben and Jerry's and argued with Sergey Brin about whether it was even POSSIBLE to search the whole World Wide Web (it WAS 99 after all)

this went up a few years ago:

www.johnkane.com

apparently cost well over $100K to build and the builders came all the way from Australia

and something like this gets bult every year and sure ain't cheap:
thekagency.com
 
2014-08-23 12:29:47 PM

Dahnkster: Yeah, stay away. God forbid you see beautiful scantily clad women and men having fun. This Go-Pro Hula-cam of cute hula chicks is not for you! Also stay away from LOCKN', Wanee Fest, Coachella, and Bonnaroo None of these festivals are any fun at all. You look more like the type that would enjoy a corn maze. Ask yourself this, do you REALLY wanna be 'that guy' who never has fun at festivals because he's too busy judging everyone else's good time.

Warning super cute girls with barely covered breast hula hooping so possibly NSFW... and you're already clickin' the link aren't you?


I bet they smell fantastic
 
2014-08-23 12:30:36 PM
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News like that just makes me wanna burn that motherf*cker down...
 
2014-08-23 12:31:24 PM
People are biatching because they are mistaking the romanticised idea of burning man, "hippy musical artistic commune free of society's ills" for its reality: drugs, sex with drugged hippie wannabes, tripping out looking at weird art - while on drugs - and absolutely disgusting living conditions that come with hosting the event so far out in the desert that no one will care about the drugs.
 
2014-08-23 12:31:59 PM
Thanks for the snark. I'm taking my boat out to Crab Island in Destin tonight to watch 'Jaws' on a floating 40 foot screen with a few hundred fun people. You guys have a nice night, too.

www.legendarymarine.com
 
2014-08-23 12:36:56 PM
sounds to me like the old bikers saying Sturgis is ruined because 300,000 people show up with bikes to have fun and only the hard core should be there to enjoy it.
 
2014-08-23 12:40:07 PM

Dahnkster: Yeah, stay away. God forbid you see beautiful scantily clad women and men having fun. This Go-Pro Hula-cam of cute hula chicks is not for you! Also stay away from LOCKN', Wanee Fest, Coachella, and Bonnaroo None of these festivals are any fun at all. You look more like the type that would enjoy a corn maze. Ask yourself this, do you REALLY wanna be 'that guy' who never has fun at festivals because he's too busy judging everyone else's good time.

Warning super cute girls with barely covered breast hula hooping so possibly NSFW... and you're already clickin' the link aren't you?


Is it a Youtube mandate that all videos must be accompanied by the most obnoxious music available to the publisher?
 
2014-08-23 12:44:00 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Thanks to being all about doing drugs in the desert for a week, Burning Man has jumped the shark.


I think the $300+ entry fee (plus $40 to park, starting this year) to a hallucinogenic hippie love-in is what's caused it to jump the shark.


/loved the Malcolm in the Middle episode set there
 
2014-08-23 12:45:40 PM
The annual hand-wringing over BM has become something I look forward to each late August.  I went once years ago, and had equally great times and horrible times, but the internet's dissection of BM has to be my favorite time of the year.  If you're worried about what others are doing, you're missing the point of the event.  What IS the point?  Hell if I know, but it's not worrying about them.
 
2014-08-23 12:55:13 PM

chitownmike: Dahnkster: Yeah, stay away. God forbid you see beautiful scantily clad women and men having fun. This Go-Pro Hula-cam of cute hula chicks is not for you! Also stay away from LOCKN', Wanee Fest, Coachella, and Bonnaroo None of these festivals are any fun at all. You look more like the type that would enjoy a corn maze. Ask yourself this, do you REALLY wanna be 'that guy' who never has fun at festivals because he's too busy judging everyone else's good time.

Warning super cute girls with barely covered breast hula hooping so possibly NSFW... and you're already clickin' the link aren't you?

I bet they smell fantastic


Give you a hint?: Any moisture evaporates instantly from your body out there, and the Alkali gypsum dust that covers you out there acts much like baking soda..which is to say a natural deodorant.   any (NSFW) showers are readily availble out there and a lot of fun (NSFW)
 
2014-08-23 12:59:51 PM

Dahnkster: Yeah, stay away. God forbid you see beautiful scantily clad women and men having fun. This Go-Pro Hula-cam of cute hula chicks is not for you! Also stay away from LOCKN', Wanee Fest, Coachella, and Bonnaroo None of these festivals are any fun at all. You look more like the type that would enjoy a corn maze. Ask yourself this, do you REALLY wanna be 'that guy' who never has fun at festivals because he's too busy judging everyone else's good time.

Warning super cute girls with barely covered breast hula hooping so possibly NSFW... and you're already clickin' the link aren't you?



Pretty much the best use of a GoPro I've seen since eagle attachments.
 
2014-08-23 01:00:46 PM

timujin: cretinbob: I'm pretty sure it jumped the shark several years back

Ever been?

And in answer to the article, let me link to someone who says it better than I could:

http://mashable.com/2014/08/22/burning-man-2014/


Good read. Thanks for the link.

/ Wonders what other articles from the NYT are full of crap.
 
2014-08-23 01:09:46 PM
Magorn

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Today, I have FARKLED you as somebody who 'loves life and enjoys having a good time'. In my book, this is a highly valued personality trait. Namaste and Aloha.
 
2014-08-23 01:16:57 PM

Kevin72: "But now a new set of younger rich techies are heading east,"

I love it when Nevada is "heading east".


It's heading east when people come from Silicon Valley which is what the article is talking about.  Try to keep up, Donnie.
 
2014-08-23 01:25:52 PM
Archimedes' Principal:

/ Wonders what other articles from the NYT are full of crap.

My thoughts also

/quit watching 60 Minutes for the same reason
 
2014-08-23 01:28:43 PM

Johnny Bananapeel: That's okay. We 99-percenters still have the Gathering of the Juggalos to ourselves!


Actually, this comment made me realize I suddenly have a newfound respect (if you can call it that) for Juggalos. They will never be taken over by hipsters/yupsters, ever. Sure, the reasons behind this are probably not good overall, but there is kind of an elegance to it.
 
2014-08-23 01:33:23 PM
I guess my plan to show up in a refrigerator box full of personal lubricant doesn't seem so sensually alluring and artistically avante garde as it did before I read that article.

And with that, The Neo-Libertine Homeless Minimalist movement dies on the vine before it is allowed to flourish.  I even had a manifesto before I had to use it as toilet paper.
 
2014-08-23 01:35:33 PM
Woodstock wasn't Woodstock, either.
 
2014-08-23 01:38:39 PM
I've wanted to go to burning man for years, mostly because I love the idea of running around naked while camping in the desert and listening to techno music.

Seeing all the photos of naked people that make it out makes me uneasy and kinda ruins it for me. Are those pics taken and posted online with permission? Does running around naked at burning man imply permission to be photographed (it does not at nudist beaches and clubs!).

I don't think there's anything wrong with nudity or pornography or having naked pics online, but the reality is that would interfere with my ability to get workband I don't need that.

Maybe I need to just wait until I'm saggy and wrinkly enough no one will want to take photos.
 
2014-08-23 01:38:52 PM

timujin: cretinbob: I'm pretty sure it jumped the shark several years back

Ever been?

And in answer to the article, let me link to someone who says it better than I could:

http://mashable.com/2014/08/22/burning-man-2014/


there is no debate more tiresome than what is or is not "punk".

However I will declare that the guy who wrote that is not punk, cyberpunk and steampunk are not punk, and Burning Man is  definitely not punk.
 
2014-08-23 01:48:40 PM
Burning Man sounded kinda cool in theory, but I've got friends (tech friends at that) who post pictures and I've been....well....less than impressed.  The vast majority of people just look, *dirty* to me.  Not like, sexy dirty girl you wanna bang; but like, regular sorta looking girl who has been outside in a desert and really needs a shower.  It's also worth mentioning that my friends were all socially awkward, unattractive, computer nerds.  Now they're all of that, but in their mid 30s and 40s.  So add, overweight and balding to it.
 
2014-08-23 01:53:05 PM

wingedkat: Maybe I need to just wait until I'm saggy and wrinkly enough no one will want to take photos.


"Wait until"?


img1.wikia.nocookie.net

/just kidding
//wait, will this comment get me banned under the new rules?
///it was gender-neutral, I swea***CARRIER LOST***
 
2014-08-23 02:04:38 PM

wingedkat: Maybe I need to just wait until I'm saggy and wrinkly enough no one will want to take photos.


No, they'll take just as many pictures, to show that they are so enlightened that they don't even care that you are saggy and wrinkly. After all, the guy with the camera is 65 and he's naked too.
 
2014-08-23 02:10:02 PM
FraggleStickCar:  Burning Man is  definitely not punk.
 

It's what the gutter punks want to be, if they weren't too lazy
 
2014-08-23 02:17:02 PM

wingedkat: Seeing all the photos of naked people that make it out makes me uneasy and kinda ruins it for me. Are those pics taken and posted online with permission? Does running around naked at burning man imply permission to be photographed (it does not at nudist beaches and clubs!).

I don't think there's anything wrong with nudity or pornography or having naked pics online, but the reality is that would interfere with my ability to get workband I don't need that.


Oddly enough, there are strict guidelines for photography at Burning Man. Here's a link if you are curious....

http://www.burningman.com/press/pressRandR.html

I've never had a problem with photography, but honestly I have never filled out all the required paperwork. There are countless people snapping phone pics. I have asked on occasion if it would be 'okay' to take a photo and I can't immediately ever remember being told "No!"  I do recall a few times when people asked me "Why?" and I explained it was because I thought they looked beautiful, or because it looked like they were really enjoying themselves or that I wanted to get some ideas for next year. I attend quite a few outdoor concerts and festivals each year, but have not been to Burning Man in over 4 years. I'm definitely getting older and rounder each year, and I'm probably a lot less likely to go buck naked for very long. At some of the West Coast shows, outdoor public showers were definitely 'clothing optional'.  Mrs Dahnkster usually frowns on my nature boy inclinations. (She is really a great sport... she 'takes the wheel when I seein' double - pays my tickets when I speed' type of partner. You strike me as somebody that would really enjoy the experience. Maybe get together with a really close friend and jump in. If nothing else, the memories will last a lifetime and will definitely be an adventure. One night at Burning Man we had these really awesome light-up fishing poles and we 'casted' out these light-up beads and trinkets. It was so much fun sitting in our chairs, drinking cold beer and watching the people skirt along chasing the beads. We got more mileage out of 20 or 30 dollars worth of glow stuff  than is humanly possible. We narrated each cast, like we were filming an outdoor fishing documentary and found ourselves laughing until we ached.  Peeked at your profile and you are a total cutie-pie, BTW. I hope you get to go one day.
 
2014-08-23 02:17:26 PM
Meh, just like the half million dollar motor coaches at the campground don't ruin my camping trips there's no way some milionaires setting up camp at BM are going to ruin anyone's festival except the guys who refuse to mix with the people they're ostensibly there to be with.
 
2014-08-23 02:20:31 PM
I've been to Burning Man a bunch of times. First time, I honestly felt intimidated, because there was all this amazing, trippy art, and I felt like I could never measure up. Our camp made felafel for "everyone" -- and were politely told never to do that again. (Which made sense. If we gave 1000 people food poisoning, there was no possible way for them to get evacuated to medical facilities in a timely manner.)

I remember being woken by a campmate, trekking half a mile into the quiet of the playa, and taking a "light bath" from giant sunflowers with millions of high-power colored LEDs. Then going further, and finding The Very Large Array of Sound, an audio-only installation that was better than drugs. (And best WITH drugs.) A woman decided that all the men had to wear bras. I still have mine. I think I'm a 44A.

Second time, the art was bigger, and I gave up on anything other than going, enjoying, and relaxing. Except that with the extreme heat, cold, dust, and rave music, relaxing is pretty much impossible. At least you could still get from one end to the other.

Last time, it was 10x as big as the first, and there was literally no place in the entire playa where there was any peace and quiet at any time. Raver City. fark sleep. Better bring a bike. No way to see it all. Very little chance of making any new friends. Art projects cost $100k to build.

Then, CEOs and celebrities started helicoptering in, but see, they're "living the spirit of Burning Man" by passing out grilled cheese sandwiches, incognito. And you can be sure that any time you're having sex, it's going to end up on porn sites. Thanks, creepers.

Most of the die-hard burner friends I have became Rangers, and now run the TAZ. Along with the cops. Yep, there's cops all over the place. What did you think was going to happen?
 
2014-08-23 02:24:21 PM

Glitchwerks: I've never been.  I have, however, seen pictures of DJ gear after Burning Man, and, wow.  I'd hate to flush that much money in gear down the drain.


Please. Tech 12s last forever. They never break.
 
2014-08-23 02:30:05 PM
A friend of mine has been an EMT at burning man a few times and always asked me to go and I have wanted to. He isnt working this year since he is still on the Appalachian trail, but I got his alcohol, truck and some of his guns. One thing I am upset about is Punkin Chunkin moving cause some idiot got drunk on an ATV and hurt himself.
 
2014-08-23 02:51:25 PM

jtown: Kevin72: "But now a new set of younger rich techies are heading east,"

I love it when Nevada is "heading east".

It's heading east when people come from Silicon Valley which is what the article is talking about.  Try to keep up, Donnie.


Thank you, God's Gift to the Universe for saving Planet Earth and informing us that the article all about Silicon Valley millionaires takes place in California. I wouldn't be able to keep up without you so informing me.
 
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