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(Science World Report)   So that drought in the Western US? Yeah, looks like we're getting a new mountain range out of it   (scienceworldreport.com) divider line 110
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2014-08-22 12:08:46 PM  
So the aquifers were so heavy they were weighing down the tectonic plates? I wonder how this will impact the Mid West as they drain the Ogallala Aquifer? Will it raise the ground or will the ground implode to fill the huge pockets that were previously filled with water?
 
2014-08-22 12:13:07 PM  
It's not a drought, it's a new climate.
 
2014-08-22 12:30:07 PM  
If the ground weren't subsiding due to pumping out all the water the rising would be even more
 
2014-08-22 01:03:28 PM  
2011:
i.dailymail.co.uk

2014:
i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2014-08-22 01:08:38 PM  
Drought continuing...crops failing...yep, Canada's annexation is inevitable I'd say. Time to stock up on MREs and ammo. Or just say Fark it and Welcome to Canada, Yankee Overlords!
 
2014-08-22 01:09:13 PM  

Nadie_AZ: So the aquifers were so heavy they were weighing down the tectonic plates? I wonder how this will impact the Mid West as they drain the Ogallala Aquifer? Will it raise the ground or will the ground implode to fill the huge pockets that were previously filled with water?


Here's what will happen: mass panic as Midwesterners flee in the face of actual topography.

MaudlinMutantMollusk: If the ground weren't subsiding due to pumping out all the water the rising would be even more


So Venice might actually start rising again? Molto bene!
 
2014-08-22 02:08:42 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Will it raise the ground or will the ground implode to fill the huge pockets that were previously filled with water?


There might be something interesting to see while driving through the midwest states.
 
2014-08-22 02:15:13 PM  
15mm mountain range made of molehills?
 
2014-08-22 02:16:07 PM  

Walker: 2011:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x563]

2014:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x565]


wow - are those pictures of the same place and is that real?
 
2014-08-22 02:18:28 PM  

gfid: Walker: 2011:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x563]

2014:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x565]

wow - are those pictures of the same place and is that real?


Yeah, it is totally real. There have been several news reports of lakes pretty much disappearing.
 
2014-08-22 02:18:46 PM  

Buggar: 15mm mountain range made of molehills?


15mm?  That's more than half an inch!
 
2014-08-22 02:19:08 PM  

gfid: Walker: 2011:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x563]

2014:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x565]

wow - are those pictures of the same place and is that real?


Yes and yes. Saw those yesterday. I didn't realize how bad it really was until I saw those.
 
2014-08-22 02:25:40 PM  
Nothing a good zombie apocalypse wouldn't solve......
 
2014-08-22 02:27:52 PM  
img.fark.net
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-08-22 02:27:53 PM  
Melting glaciers also raises land.
 
2014-08-22 02:33:46 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Nadie_AZ: Will it raise the ground or will the ground implode to fill the huge pockets that were previously filled with water?

There might be something interesting to see while driving through flying over the midwest states.

 
2014-08-22 02:35:02 PM  

Walker: 2011:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x563]

2014:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x565]


That's pretty terrifiying
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-08-22 02:37:57 PM  
Walker

Looks like a good time to do bridge maintenance.
 
2014-08-22 02:40:13 PM  
National Geographic has a much better article on it.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/08/140821-drought-calif or nia-west-gps-groundwater-science/

This is the part that worries/frustrates me the most:
"In the Central Valley so much groundwater has been extracted that the ground has subsided more than 30 feet in some places-swamping the much smaller regional uplift caused by the elastic rebound of the underlying crust.
California has some of the weakest groundwater regulations in the nation, and access to its well-drilling records is highly restricted."

So a state that is one of the largest agricultural producers, and is subject to regular droughts and limited water resources, also has some of the weakest regulations when it comes to ground water.  WTF?  When did California turn into Texas?
 
2014-08-22 02:41:11 PM  
The Antes Mountains ladies and gentlemen.
 
2014-08-22 02:42:01 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Yeah, it is totally real. There have been several news reports of lakes pretty much disappearing.


Saw similar pictures of lakes (former, I guess) in Texas. Medina Lake Park has been closed for two years because Medina Lake is essentially gone.
 
2014-08-22 02:44:46 PM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: So a state that is one of the largest agricultural producers, and is subject to regular droughts and limited water resources



Saw an interesting graphic, don't know where it is now.

Turns out, the largest agricultural drain on water is used for the growing of alfalfa.
Guess where most of that alfalfa goes after it is harvested?
China.
Slap an export duty on alfalfa steep enough to slow down alfalfa growing and you've saved water for the people.
Simple. Make it so.
 
2014-08-22 02:45:11 PM  

Egoy3k: Walker: 2011:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x563]

2014:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x565]

That's pretty terrifiying


news.bbcimg.co.uk


Angela Lansbury's Merkin: So a state that is one of the largest agricultural producers, and is subject to regular droughts and limited water resources, also has some of the weakest regulations when it comes to ground water. WTF? When did California turn into Texas?


And don't forget about them exporting water to China.
 
2014-08-22 02:45:15 PM  

Walker: 2011:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x563]

2014:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x565]


That is a damn shame. :/
 
2014-08-22 02:45:48 PM  
What we need are deslination plants that are run by nuclear power plants with their own tiny desalination plants.
 
2014-08-22 02:46:20 PM  

ZAZ: Walker

Looks like a good time to do bridge maintenance.


Wait a year and they won't need the bridge.
 
2014-08-22 02:46:46 PM  

Witty_Retort: And don't forget about them exporting water to China.


Yes. This. They didn't include the graphic I was talking about. Must have been a few articles on this.
 
2014-08-22 02:49:30 PM  
Walker:

I'm not saying the drought isn't bad, but that picure is misleanding.  I think it only shows the upper part of a very deep reservoir.  Reservoir levels naturally fluctuate since rainfall isn't constant.

If you go to this link, there is a little web app that can show the historical water levels of this reservior.

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cdecapp/resapp/resDetailOrig.action?resid=O RO

If you play with it, you can see that other years in the past have been just as bad as this year (and, therefore, would have looked much like the 2014 image you posted).

For example, plotting the current year versus 2008-2009, you will see that the water levels throughout that year were almost the same as the current year.  Yet, three years after 2008, the reservoir was full again.

Context.
 
2014-08-22 02:50:01 PM  

ZAZ: Melting glaciers also raises land.


In a few millennia Hudson Bay will probably finish rebounding and become dry land.
 
2014-08-22 02:50:55 PM  

gfid: Walker: 2011:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x563]

2014:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x565]

wow - are those pictures of the same place and is that real?


Here's some more. A new mountain range! (sorta). And notice the little bridge between the islands. Not really needed anymore.

Oroville Lake in CA 2011:
i.dailymail.co.uk

Same view in 2014:
i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2014-08-22 02:51:23 PM  
news.bbcimg.co.uk

That's farked up right there.
 
2014-08-22 02:54:20 PM  
Also, those images come from the Daily Fail.  Come on.
 
2014-08-22 02:57:18 PM  
img.fark.net

Plot of Lake Oroville levels, historical and today.
 
2014-08-22 03:00:11 PM  

SVenus: Saw an interesting graphic, don't know where it is now.

Turns out, the largest agricultural drain on water is used for the growing of alfalfa.
Guess where most of that alfalfa goes after it is harvested?
China.
Slap an export duty on alfalfa steep enough to slow down alfalfa growing and you've saved water for the people.
Simple. Make it so.


Two good links on the subject:
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2014/05/_10_pe rc ent_of_california_s_water_goes_to_almond_farming.html

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/02/wheres-californias-wa te r-going

California produces 99% of almonds in the US.  A single almond requires 1.1 gallon of water to grow.  When water restrictions went into effect, they cut water to less demanding crops to keep watering the almond trees since that's where the highest margin is.

www.motherjones.com
 
2014-08-22 03:03:20 PM  

aerojockey: Also, those images come from the Daily Fail.  Come on.


So you're saying those pictures aren't true? Were they shopped? Citation please.
 
2014-08-22 03:05:28 PM  
"Pouring through the data"
I wonder whether editor saw what reporter did there.
 
2014-08-22 03:05:50 PM  
www.arachnoid.com
Lake Mead
Historic low since the dam went up.
If it falls below 1050 feet, electrical generation from the Hoover Dam may be impacted.

/Lake Mead has a surface area of 247 sq. miles.
//if my math works out, a drop of one inch means 4,292,549,471.6 gallons of water lost.
 
2014-08-22 03:09:30 PM  
Everyone send them a beer. They need more piss.
 
2014-08-22 03:18:52 PM  
I blame the Visitors:

bkhalloween.com
 
2014-08-22 03:19:44 PM  

Egoy3k: Walker: 2011:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x563]

2014:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x565]

That's pretty terrifiyingtypical


There...fixed that for you. California's reservoir water levels are DESIGNED to go up and down year to year depending on water availability from winter rains and snow. Just wait until the next el Nino hits...then the lakes will fill to bursting, hillsides will turn to jello, and the ground will soak up gigatons of rainwater. Rinse. Repeat.
 
2014-08-22 03:19:45 PM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: SVenus: Saw an interesting graphic, don't know where it is now.

Turns out, the largest agricultural drain on water is used for the growing of alfalfa.
Guess where most of that alfalfa goes after it is harvested?
China.
Slap an export duty on alfalfa steep enough to slow down alfalfa growing and you've saved water for the people.
Simple. Make it so.

Two good links on the subject:
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2014/05/_10_pe rc ent_of_california_s_water_goes_to_almond_farming.html

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/02/wheres-californias-wa te r-going

California produces 99% of almonds in the US.  A single almond requires 1.1 gallon of water to grow.  When water restrictions went into effect, they cut water to less demanding crops to keep watering the almond trees since that's where the highest margin is.

[www.motherjones.com image 630x1204]


I had no idea that broccoli is that water intensive. I eat it almost every day.
 
2014-08-22 03:22:07 PM  
I don't get it, why don't they just bring some water over from some place like Minnesota or Wisconsin?
 
2014-08-22 03:22:17 PM  

Stone Meadow: Egoy3k: Walker: 2011:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x563]

2014:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x565]

That's pretty terrifiyingtypical

There...fixed that for you. California's reservoir water levels are DESIGNED to go up and down year to year depending on water availability from winter rains and snow. Just wait until the next el Nino hits...then the lakes will fill to bursting, hillsides will turn to jello, and the ground will soak up gigatons of rainwater. Rinse. Repeat.


It's wonderful that the California hills were designed to carry water to lower levels. Well done.
 
2014-08-22 03:25:51 PM  

WelldeadLink: Stone Meadow: Egoy3k: Walker: 2011:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x563]

2014:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x565]

That's pretty terrifiyingtypical

There...fixed that for you. California's reservoir water levels are DESIGNED to go up and down year to year depending on water availability from winter rains and snow. Just wait until the next el Nino hits...then the lakes will fill to bursting, hillsides will turn to jello, and the ground will soak up gigatons of rainwater. Rinse. Repeat.

It's wonderful that the California hills were designed to carry water to lower levels. Well done.


Your sarcasm aside, it is EXTREMELY well done. Not only does it keep the fish running, but it provides for 40 million people to live here amid one of the greatest water intensive farming success stories on the planet. Ta da.
 
2014-08-22 03:28:55 PM  

Clash City Farker: I don't get it, why don't they just bring some water over from some place like Minnesota or Wisconsin?


 The Great Lakes Compact bans Great Lakes water from being "diverted" ...
 
2014-08-22 03:32:47 PM  

Stone Meadow: Your sarcasm aside, it is EXTREMELY well done. Not only does it keep the fish running, but it provides for 40 million people to live here amid one of the greatest water intensive farming success stories on the planet. Ta da.


Their fish are running? That will be convenient when the streams are dry.
 
2014-08-22 03:34:05 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-08-22 03:34:23 PM  

SVenus: [img.fark.net image 850x263]


A graph that gets man-made abuses of resources off the hook. How lovely.
 
2014-08-22 03:38:41 PM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/02/wheres-californias-wa te r-going


similar article

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/03/california-water-suck

www.motherjones.com
 
2014-08-22 03:39:33 PM  
Wrong. Droughts cause GPS satellites to fly 15mm closer to the Earth.
 
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