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2014-08-22 07:20:00 AM
ichef.bbci.co.uk

Not caring saves you from adopting a lot of strays.
 
2014-08-22 07:22:48 AM
And the Fark psychos will come out of the woodwork now.

/In no way was I referring to myself.
 
2014-08-22 07:24:56 AM

wildcardjack: [ichef.bbci.co.uk image 384x216]

Not caring saves you from adopting a lot of strays.


Sociopath isn't the same thing as psychopath.
 
2014-08-22 07:49:30 AM

jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark psychos will come out of the woodwork now.

/In no way was I referring to myself.


I'm a Farkopath.
 
2014-08-22 07:55:27 AM
Andy says he  is a psychopath.

No, you're an attention whore. A dramatic one, the sort who does a CNN video that begins by stating your real name and then has your face darkened as if you're somehow a secret agent or person who needs to be shielded from discovery. And who has bullseye-like graphics superimposed on himself for added high-stakes effects. You're probably someone who wants to everyone to know that you see yourself as being rich in charisma, charm, coolness under pressure, fearlessness, focus, impulsivity, lack of conscience, mental toughness, reduced empathy and ruthlessness, all traits that you believe make yourself something close to your own Raskolnikov. And you like to imagine that your "psychopathy" adds to those incredible natural talents of yours an air of danger, of uncontrollability, a sense of being the person who walks into a room and brings with him just a slight breath of cold, steely air. But that? That's not psychopathy. That's just being a self-absorbed asshole.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-08-22 08:38:39 AM
I think the correct term is "Job Creator".
 
2014-08-22 08:41:17 AM
1.bp.blogspot.com

/well, for like four seasons anyway
 
2014-08-22 09:05:47 AM
Lillian Glass, a who has written or co-written a raft of books including Toxic People: 10 Ways of Dealing with People Who Make Your Life Miserable and A Guide to Identifying Terrorists Through Body Language.

Oh christ jesus.
 
2014-08-22 09:10:36 AM

Pocket Ninja: Andy says he  is a psychopath.

No, you're an attention whore. A dramatic one, the sort who does a CNN video that begins by stating your real name and then has your face darkened as if you're somehow a secret agent or person who needs to be shielded from discovery. And who has bullseye-like graphics superimposed on himself for added high-stakes effects. You're probably someone who wants to everyone to know that you see yourself as being rich in charisma, charm, coolness under pressure, fearlessness, focus, impulsivity, lack of conscience, mental toughness, reduced empathy and ruthlessness, all traits that you believe make yourself something close to your own Raskolnikov. And you like to imagine that your "psychopathy" adds to those incredible natural talents of yours an air of danger, of uncontrollability, a sense of being the person who walks into a room and brings with him just a slight breath of cold, steely air. But that? That's not psychopathy. That's just being a self-absorbed asshole.


img4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-08-22 09:52:51 AM
Grade-A Asshole.
 
2014-08-22 11:06:33 AM
I don't know about good psychopaths, but there's a there's a good psycho killer
www.musicboxtheatre.com
 
2014-08-22 11:06:53 AM

spamdog: Lillian Glass, a who has written or co-written a raft of books including Toxic People: 10 Ways of Dealing with People Who Make Your Life Miserable and A Guide to Identifying Terrorists Through Body Language.

Oh christ jesus.


Yup.
 
2014-08-22 11:07:14 AM
No.


anyone who knows anything about Psychopathy knows that they cannot be cured and that their brains are physically/biologically different than normal brains.


the only solution to a Psychopath is a head shot.  and most of them are not violent.  the violent ones get all the press which is why you hear more about them.

they prefer to destroy people without using violence.
 
2014-08-22 11:07:59 AM

wildcardjack: [ichef.bbci.co.uk image 384x216]

Not caring saves you from adopting a lot of strays.



so says the Future stray.....................
 
2014-08-22 11:08:42 AM

Ambivalence: wildcardjack: [ichef.bbci.co.uk image 384x216]

Not caring saves you from adopting a lot of strays.

Sociopath isn't the same thing as psychopath.


they explained it to me in Mountjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4Sxz3RnRhc
 
2014-08-22 11:08:44 AM

Pocket Ninja: Andy says he  is a psychopath.

No, you're an attention whore. A dramatic one, the sort who does a CNN video that begins by stating your real name and then has your face darkened as if you're somehow a secret agent or person who needs to be shielded from discovery. And who has bullseye-like graphics superimposed on himself for added high-stakes effects. You're probably someone who wants to everyone to know that you see yourself as being rich in charisma, charm, coolness under pressure, fearlessness, focus, impulsivity, lack of conscience, mental toughness, reduced empathy and ruthlessness, all traits that you believe make yourself something close to your own Raskolnikov. And you like to imagine that your "psychopathy" adds to those incredible natural talents of yours an air of danger, of uncontrollability, a sense of being the person who walks into a room and brings with him just a slight breath of cold, steely air. But that? That's not psychopathy. That's just being a self-absorbed asshole.



I was going to say this. I might have changed some words around, but yeah... it all boils down to someone thinking that being an asshole makes them special.
 
2014-08-22 11:08:46 AM

Ambivalence: wildcardjack: [ichef.bbci.co.uk image 384x216]

Not caring saves you from adopting a lot of strays.

Sociopath isn't the same thing as psychopath.



True.  but they share much in common.
 
2014-08-22 11:09:42 AM

Linux_Yes: No.


anyone who knows anything about Psychopathy knows that they cannot be cured and that their brains are physically/biologically different than normal brains.


the only solution to a Psychopath is a head shot.  and most of them are not violent.  the violent ones get all the press which is why you hear more about them.

they prefer to destroy people without using violence.



There's one other solution. Divorce.

/worked for me.
 
2014-08-22 11:09:45 AM
Ah, there's nothing like exploiting the recent trend of fashionable sociopathy & psychopathy as a way of justifying your own attention-whoring assholiness. It's "Look! I'm different! See?! PAY ATTENTION TO ME!", with a neat label attached to it. Unoriginal, trite, and ultimately degrading to those with real pathological issues.
 
2014-08-22 11:09:51 AM

dittybopper: jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark psychos will come out of the woodwork now.

/In no way was I referring to myself.

I'm a Farkopath.



He'll Fark anything!!   and make them feel lucky for it!!
 
2014-08-22 11:10:11 AM
FTFA: She does not subscribe to the notion that we all have some psychopath within us. "You either are one or you are not one," she says.

Wait, don't psychopaths only deal in absolutes? No, wait. That the Sith according to Obi Wan Kenobi.
 
2014-08-22 11:10:16 AM
You know all those "born leaders"?  Those people with high positions in finance, governance and the military?  Those super aggressive, go an' get 'em stock and bond brokers?  CEOs?  Entertainment managers?  Yeah, most of those people are clinical psychopaths.  And if by "good", the article means "doing well for themselves at the expense of others with no remorse", yeah.  Good.
 
2014-08-22 11:10:51 AM

Linux_Yes: No.


anyone who knows anything about Psychopathy knows that they cannot be cured and that their brains are physically/biologically different than normal brains.


the only solution to a Psychopath is a head shot.  and most of them are not violent.  the violent ones get all the press which is why you hear more about them.

they prefer to destroy people without using violence.


Reminds me of a book I read some years ago...

img.fark.net
 
2014-08-22 11:11:04 AM

WilderKWight: Linux_Yes: No.


anyone who knows anything about Psychopathy knows that they cannot be cured and that their brains are physically/biologically different than normal brains.


the only solution to a Psychopath is a head shot.  and most of them are not violent.  the violent ones get all the press which is why you hear more about them.

they prefer to destroy people without using violence.


There's one other solution. Divorce.

/worked for me.



yea, i feel you.   all the Psycholgists say the same thing:  you don't change a psychopath.  all you can do is separate yourself from them.   or head shot, but separation is the preferred way.
 
2014-08-22 11:12:04 AM

bunner: You know all those "born leaders"?  Those people with high positions in finance, governance and the military?  Those super aggressive, go an' get 'em stock and bond brokers?  CEOs?  Entertainment managers?  Yeah, most of those people are clinical psychopaths.  And if by "good", the article means "doing well for themselves at the expense of others with no remorse", yeah.  Good.



I'd wager a good many of them are sociopaths, and either way they wouldn't know "good" if it bit them in the ass.
 
F42
2014-08-22 11:13:39 AM

wildcardjack: [ichef.bbci.co.uk image 384x216]



High-functionning sociopath, get it right!
 
2014-08-22 11:14:05 AM
One thing about psychopaths,...  They are really good in the sack.
 
2014-08-22 11:14:06 AM

bunner: You know all those "born leaders"?  Those people with high positions in finance, governance and the military?  Those super aggressive, go an' get 'em stock and bond brokers?  CEOs?  Entertainment managers?  Yeah, most of those people are clinical psychopaths.  And if by "good", the article means "doing well for themselves at the expense of others with no remorse", yeah.  Good.



yes, they are.  Wall Street is infested with them.   most people don't understand that.  if you ever have to deal with a Psychopath, then you will understand what they are.

the remind me of Machines that look human on the outside.
 
2014-08-22 11:14:39 AM

spamdog: Lillian Glass, a who has written or co-written a raft of books including Toxic People: 10 Ways of Dealing with People Who Make Your Life Miserable and A Guide to Identifying Terrorists Through Body Language.

Oh christ jesus.


The free version:

https://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/tag/a-guide-to- id entifying-terrorists-through-body-language/
 
2014-08-22 11:14:47 AM

WilderKWight: bunner: You know all those "born leaders"?  Those people with high positions in finance, governance and the military?  Those super aggressive, go an' get 'em stock and bond brokers?  CEOs?  Entertainment managers?  Yeah, most of those people are clinical psychopaths.  And if by "good", the article means "doing well for themselves at the expense of others with no remorse", yeah.  Good.


I'd wager a good many of them are sociopaths, and either way they wouldn't know "good" if it bit them in the ass.


Sociopaths see it as a chess game.  Psychopaths see it more like Global Thermonuclear War.
 
2014-08-22 11:15:04 AM

Jesus Christ Supertard: One thing about psychopaths,...  They are really good in the sack.



i would never sack with one.  unless i was disposing of its body.  i use 'it' because they are not human.
 
2014-08-22 11:15:13 AM
Psychopaths aren't really bad people.

They're just misanthropes with good time-management skills.
 
2014-08-22 11:15:56 AM
This really isn't news.

There's a lot of studies that show the most successful businessmen have psychotic traits.  It's the whole shark-eat-shark business ecology thing that requires those swimming in the waters to be a bit ruthless to not only survive, but thrive.

However, being psychotic is not simply a checklist of traits that, when you have enough, you get a certification card and a welcome basket with sausage and disgusting cheese logs.  The very definition of a psychotic is someone whom has lost contact with reality.  Most of these 'successful psychotics' are rather the other way around - hyper focused on reality.  They're not deranged, they're just directed.  When you read up on them, the authors will never declare that these folks are actually crazy - they're aware of it.

That's not why they call them psychotic.

This and previous authors who have written on the subject just use the phrase "psychotic" for scare/thrill points, rather than accuracy.  It's like saying "Nixon was a liar, so all liars are sort of like Nixon, therefore, liars are Nixon."
 
2014-08-22 11:16:03 AM
www.blastr.com
 
2014-08-22 11:16:41 AM

brimed03: spamdog: Lillian Glass, a who has written or co-written a raft of books including Toxic People: 10 Ways of Dealing with People Who Make Your Life Miserable and A Guide to Identifying Terrorists Through Body Language.

Oh christ jesus.

Yup.


For what it's worth, here's an article written by an Israeli security professional with the Ben Gurion Airport stating that there is definitely some merit in reading body language when identifying a person's motives.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2009/12/31/what_israel_can_teach_u s_ about_security.html

I don't think in any way, shape, or form that the person in the Fark linked article is a security expert or his opinion should be regarded as anything but his own delusions of grandeur.
 
2014-08-22 11:16:44 AM
box-chatter.co.uk
 
2014-08-22 11:17:23 AM

Linux_Yes: Ambivalence: wildcardjack: [ichef.bbci.co.uk image 384x216]

Not caring saves you from adopting a lot of strays.

Sociopath isn't the same thing as psychopath.


True.  but they share much in common.


I've read The Psychopath Test by Jon Ronson, and I think we're sitting at the point where a good psychopath is a sociopath, or something like that. They're the same problem, but different degrees.
 
2014-08-22 11:17:26 AM

bunner: You know all those "born leaders"?  Those people with high positions in finance, governance and the military?  Those super aggressive, go an' get 'em stock and bond brokers?  CEOs?  Entertainment managers?  Yeah, most of those people are clinical psychopaths.  And if by "good", the article means "doing well for themselves at the expense of others with no remorse", yeah.  Good.


Considering how self-absorbed the individual that published the book must be, why are you surprised that that the author means exactly that? That's kind of the point - increasingly, we're seeing a world that's trying to figure out how to live without empathy or sympathy, because far too many of these individuals are now deciding the direction of society itself.

It's like listening to the recent NPR article on how, because so many people in this country (more than 1 in 3) have criminal records, some employers are doing away with "do you have an arrest record" questions on employment applications. If your society is so dysfunctional that more than one-third of it has a criminal record, perhaps changing that, instead of accepting and accommodating that, is a better response. But, it's easier for employers to just hire them than to change society, I guess, so they just shrug their shoulders and accept the fact that they're going to be hiring a lot more criminals.

We're just going to have to resign ourselves to the fact that psychopaths and sociopaths are stacking the deck to ensure that only psychopaths and sociopaths are going to be powerful and successful. No one sees a need to stop it, and far too many of them are in power now to reverse the trend.
 
2014-08-22 11:18:10 AM
When it comes to Psychopaths, I'm a Psychopath.  meaning that i would cap one if i could not get away from one.


that is how little i think of them.  with everyone else, i'm a Poof.  (not gay, just a sensitive, feelings type)  ((:
 
2014-08-22 11:18:14 AM

Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: Psychopaths aren't really bad people.

They're just misanthropes with good time-management skills.


That definition is better than anything the DSM folks could ever cobble together.
 
2014-08-22 11:18:42 AM
TFA: "None of these characteristics are inherently bad in themselves," Kevin says.

Um.
 
F42
2014-08-22 11:19:34 AM
"Psychopaths are dangerous people, and to encourage someone to act like a psychopath is both irresponsible and dangerous."

It's like this book was co-written by a psycopath!
 
2014-08-22 11:19:44 AM

quietwalker: There's a lot of studies that show the most successful businessmen have psychotic traits.  It's the whole shark-eat-shark business ecology thing that requires those swimming in the waters to be a bit ruthless to not only survive, but thrive.


Does it occur to anybody that perhaps the business climate being rife with psychos is what installed the "shark tank"?
 
2014-08-22 11:19:56 AM

FormlessOne: We're just going to have to resign ourselves to the fact that psychopaths and sociopaths are stacking the deck to ensure that only psychopaths and sociopaths are going to be powerful and successful. No one sees a need to stop it, and far too many of them are in power now to reverse the trend.


This is horrible and appalling... But I don't see any way around it either.
 
2014-08-22 11:20:00 AM

Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: Psychopaths aren't really bad people.

They're just misanthropes with good time-management skills.



they are misanthropes because so many of them hang around other psychopaths. they feed off each other like Zombies.  Wall street is a perfect example.   birds of a feather flock together.  hey, i'm a Poet and didn't know it.
 
2014-08-22 11:20:15 AM

Pocket Ninja: Andy says he  is a psychopath.

No, you're an attention whore. A dramatic one, the sort who does a CNN video that begins by stating your real name and then has your face darkened as if you're somehow a secret agent or person who needs to be shielded from discovery. And who has bullseye-like graphics superimposed on himself for added high-stakes effects. You're probably someone who wants to everyone to know that you see yourself as being rich in charisma, charm, coolness under pressure, fearlessness, focus, impulsivity, lack of conscience, mental toughness, reduced empathy and ruthlessness, all traits that you believe make yourself something close to your own Raskolnikov. And you like to imagine that your "psychopathy" adds to those incredible natural talents of yours an air of danger, of uncontrollability, a sense of being the person who walks into a room and brings with him just a slight breath of cold, steely air. But that? That's not psychopathy. That's just being a self-absorbed asshole.


Careful there. If this guy's book is successful, then loads of people will be self diagnosing themselves as psychos as a way to excuse their asshole behavior.

Much like aspergers.
 
2014-08-22 11:21:32 AM

HatMadeOfAss: brimed03: spamdog: Lillian Glass, a who has written or co-written a raft of books including Toxic People: 10 Ways of Dealing with People Who Make Your Life Miserable and A Guide to Identifying Terrorists Through Body Language.

Oh christ jesus.

Yup.

For what it's worth, here's an article written by an Israeli security professional with the Ben Gurion Airport stating that there is definitely some merit in reading body language when identifying a person's motives.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2009/12/31/what_israel_can_teach_u s_ about_security.html

I don't think in any way, shape, or form that the person in the Fark linked article is a security expert or his her opinion should be regarded as anything but his her own delusions of grandeur.


My bad.
 
2014-08-22 11:21:50 AM

bunner: You know all those "born leaders"?  Those people with high positions in finance, governance and the military?  Those super aggressive, go an' get 'em stock and bond brokers?  CEOs?  Entertainment managers?  Yeah, most of those people are clinical psychopaths.  And if by "good", the article means "doing well for themselves at the expense of others with no remorse", yeah.  Good.


From the article, I'm thinking they are defining "good" as useful to society.  In which case, there are at least large swaths of the population who think the people you describe above are useful to society (or at the very least to the economy).

I'd add most well-known politicians to that list, the ones you like and the ones you don't.  You've gotta be a psychopath to reliably make the hard decisions, which unfortunately society needs sometimes.  Most psychopaths we hear about, of course, choose more petty and destructive things to focus on.
 
2014-08-22 11:22:29 AM

bunner: quietwalker: There's a lot of studies that show the most successful businessmen have psychotic traits.  It's the whole shark-eat-shark business ecology thing that requires those swimming in the waters to be a bit ruthless to not only survive, but thrive.

Does it occur to anybody that perhaps the business climate being rife with psychos is what installed the "shark tank"?



Sharks are psychopaths of the animal world.  they just swim, eat, and reproduce their kind.  like a machine.  and the ONLY time a shark will show fear/ doubt or concern is when a Killer Whale shows up.
 
F42
2014-08-22 11:23:00 AM

Jesus Christ Supertard: One thing about psychopaths,... They are really good in the sack.


I doubt that very much, what with their self-centeredness and their lack of caring. They are very good at getting IN the sack, with the confidence and the doing anything to get what they want without caring about who they hurt, sure, but those are two different situations.
 
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