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    More: Followup, Scott Weiland, Although Scott Weiland, TMZ, L.A. County Sheriff  
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2014-08-22 07:01:46 AM  
Feel sorry for Scott, but TMZ has done nothing wrong.  Think about it, apart from DNA, how can anyone ever prove who they are. Documents can be faked. And even for DNA to succeed there needs to be a confirmed control sample already in existence
 
2014-08-22 07:45:06 AM  
If we could trade 10 Scott Weilands for 1 Layne Staley..
 
2014-08-22 07:46:02 AM  

colinspooky: Feel sorry for Scott, but TMZ has done nothing wrong.  Think about it, apart from DNA, how can anyone ever prove who they are. Documents can be faked. And even for DNA to succeed there needs to be a confirmed control sample already in existence


You mean actively recording an album in the presence of other people who know you isn't enough proof?
 
2014-08-22 07:52:19 AM  
It turns out that Pete is not as good of a moderator as repeat was.
 
2014-08-22 07:55:50 AM  

Ecobuckeye: colinspooky: Feel sorry for Scott, but TMZ has done nothing wrong.  Think about it, apart from DNA, how can anyone ever prove who they are. Documents can be faked. And even for DNA to succeed there needs to be a confirmed control sample already in existence

You mean actively recording an album in the presence of other people who know you isn't enough proof?


Legally, no. They could be lying. I know it all sounds odd, but the police are convinced they have the same man - and legally again, if you are a reporter, who are you obliged to believe more.
 
2014-08-22 08:13:15 AM  
In other news, a Scott Weiland impersonator exists.
 
2014-08-22 08:14:27 AM  
It turns out that TMZ is not the bastion of journalistic integrity we thought it was

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images.wikia.com

shocking, we know.
 
2014-08-22 08:45:28 AM  

colinspooky: Feel sorry for Scott, but TMZ has done nothing wrong.  Think about it, apart from DNA, how can anyone ever prove who they are. Documents can be faked. And even for DNA to succeed there needs to be a confirmed control sample already in existence


Yeah, subby went out on a limb, but that's par for the course.  It's not TMZ's fault that the police thought they had booked the guy, and it's not like people all over the world take the police accounts of names and scrutinize them.  They say they arrested RandomDudeX and that's what people accept.  We don't launch investigations to ensure they're right, because, a vast majority of the time they are right.  The thought of doing so is ridiculous.
 
2014-08-22 08:47:14 AM  
Could someone tell this writer the difference between sensor and censor.
 
2014-08-22 08:56:05 AM  

omeganuepsilon: colinspooky: Feel sorry for Scott, but TMZ has done nothing wrong.  Think about it, apart from DNA, how can anyone ever prove who they are. Documents can be faked. And even for DNA to succeed there needs to be a confirmed control sample already in existence

Yeah, subby went out on a limb, but that's par for the course.  It's not TMZ's fault that the police thought they had booked the guy, and it's not like people all over the world take the police accounts of names and scrutinize them.  They say they arrested RandomDudeX and that's what people accept.  We don't launch investigations to ensure they're right, because, a vast majority of the time they are right.  The thought of doing so is ridiculous.


Right, but, when RandomDudeX releases a video saying, hey, its not me they have locked up, you probably should start to seriously second guess your report.

Granted, Weiland could have strolled down to the Sheriff's dept with his attorney and gotten it sorted out in no time.
 
2014-08-22 08:57:35 AM  

Flint Ironstag: Could someone tell this writer the difference between sensor and censor.


I'm still trying to figure out affect and effect.
 
2014-08-22 08:59:53 AM  
I can see how the mistake was made. Scott Weiland being arrested for meth seems fairly plausible.
 
2014-08-22 09:07:25 AM  
Scott Weiland has been farking up deadpools for years.  I can see how this mistake of perception has been made by all involved.
 
2014-08-22 09:09:47 AM  
also its a little weird that farkers are complaining about journalistic integrity.  overreacting to quasi-plausible news type things is kind of our bag.  tmz is just a source that feeds our addiction.
 
2014-08-22 09:14:48 AM  

elguerodiablo: Scott Weiland has been farking up deadpools for years.  I can see how this mistake of perception has been made by all involved.


th08.deviantart.net

I'm sorry, WHAT?!
 
2014-08-22 09:22:10 AM  
omeganuepsilon:
Yeah, subby went out on a limb, but that's par for the course.  It's not TMZ's fault that the police thought they had booked the guy, and it's not like people all over the world take the police accounts of names and scrutinize them.  They say they arrested RandomDudeX and that's what people accept.  We don't launch investigations to ensure they're right, because, a vast majority of the time they are right.  The thought of doing so is ridiculous.

Not to mention the fact that there's generally not much fact-checking needed when Weiland and drugs are mentioned in the same sentence.

I still say that Velvet Revolver was formed when the guys from GnR said, "Who can we find that's more farked up than Axl Rose?"
"Well...Scott Weiland's out of rehab..."
"Sold American!"
 
2014-08-22 09:30:07 AM  
iron_city_ap:

Right, but, when RandomDudeX releases a video saying, hey, its not me they have locked up, you probably should start to seriously second guess your report.

You mean kind of like the updates at the very beginning of the article they posted with this?

"We just spoke to a rep for the L.A. County Sheriff's Dept. who tells us, 'He is definitely in custody. We did a physical check on that inmate and he is currently in custody.'"
 
2014-08-22 09:48:47 AM  

PizzaJedi81: Flint Ironstag: Could someone tell this writer the difference between sensor and censor.

I'm still trying to figure out affect and effect.


I'm still working on read and read.
 
2014-08-22 09:54:01 AM  
How could the cops get this so wrong? So the guy they arrested was some weirdo who's convinced he's Scott Weiland and kept telling them he was - didn't he have *any* sort of ID on him? And if not - what, the cops will just take him on his word and tell media outlets like TMZ they had the real Scott Weiland in custody? That's pretty dumb.
 
2014-08-22 09:57:39 AM  

colinspooky: Ecobuckeye: colinspooky: Feel sorry for Scott, but TMZ has done nothing wrong.  Think about it, apart from DNA, how can anyone ever prove who they are. Documents can be faked. And even for DNA to succeed there needs to be a confirmed control sample already in existence

You mean actively recording an album in the presence of other people who know you isn't enough proof?

Legally, no. They could be lying. I know it all sounds odd, but the police are convinced they have the same man - and legally again, if you are a reporter, who are you obliged to believe more.


They're not reporters, they're paparazzi.  Besides, it has more to do with the fact that if they accept his word that he's in the studio and not in jail, the story goes away and they can't milk the shiat out of it for the next week or so.
 
2014-08-22 10:01:24 AM  

Sarien: iron_city_ap:

Right, but, when RandomDudeX releases a video saying, hey, its not me they have locked up, you probably should start to seriously second guess your report.

You mean kind of like the updates at the very beginning of the article they posted with this?

"We just spoke to a rep for the L.A. County Sheriff's Dept. who tells us, 'He is definitely in custody. We did a physical check on that inmate and he is currently in custody.'"


Yup. Just like that, only with more investigating than placing a call to an anonymous rep for a second time. 'Hey Bob, you still got that Weiland guy down there?' 'Sure do.' 'Great, thanks' isn't what I would call investigating in more detail.

Try to meet up with Weiland in public while he was allegedly in jail, things like that. Maybe it actually was him in jail. It should have been fairly easy for them to actually prove without relying on anonymous sources.
 
2014-08-22 10:02:08 AM  
We refer to it as The Penis Show.

Farking sad what passes for OTA broadcast content. Until you look at cable.

/sometimes...when I'm really happy...I sing The Penis Show lyrics to The Melinda Show song from Blind Date
/It's the obscure reference show...on your tee vee hee hee
 
2014-08-22 11:27:47 AM  
Wow...a story I didn't care about in the first place turned out to be inaccurate.  I'm.......relieved?
 
2014-08-22 11:55:19 AM  
This is pretty much exactly the kind of bastion I expect TMZ to be. Except I thought that word ended with "ard," not "ion."
 
2014-08-22 12:21:43 PM  
Next up on TMZ: "Today police have arrest Philip Seymour Hoffman on charges of heroin possession."
 
2014-08-22 12:53:25 PM  
TMZ doesn't have enough journalistic integrity to fill one of these:

graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2014-08-22 01:33:25 PM  
At the end of every episode of TMZ's TV show, Harvey Levin (their big cheese) holds up a sign
reading "Harvey Levin Productions" and says, "I'm a lawyer!"  Yes, Harvey, you're a lawyer...
a stupid lawyer, but yes, you're a lawyer. (So was Steve Dallas.)
 
2014-08-22 01:46:44 PM  
TMZ is still accurate more often than CNN.
 
2014-08-22 02:33:01 PM  

colinspooky: Ecobuckeye: colinspooky: Feel sorry for Scott, but TMZ has done nothing wrong.  Think about it, apart from DNA, how can anyone ever prove who they are. Documents can be faked. And even for DNA to succeed there needs to be a confirmed control sample already in existence

You mean actively recording an album in the presence of other people who know you isn't enough proof?

Legally, no. They could be lying. I know it all sounds odd, but the police are convinced they have the same man - and legally again, if you are a reporter, who are you obliged to believe more.


WTF are you talking about?  TMS has "reporters"?

And WTF is height: 601 on that report?  601 what?
 
2014-08-22 02:33:45 PM  

srhp29: WTF are you talking about? TMS TMZ has "reporters"?


Fixed that for me.
 
2014-08-22 03:22:55 PM  
Eh, they're a celebrity gossip/news site. Not exactly expecting 'Frontline' or Vice when it comes to integrity or actual news on that end of things, them or any other celebrity news company. They're just one step above Weekly World News in my book. At least TMZ does go with reliable sources and a reasonable amount of fact checking, as opposed to the papers you see at the checkout line, or the beloved Daily Fail.
 
2014-08-22 03:44:01 PM  
lyndsayj That's pretty dumb.

So Rosewood & Taggart dunno STP? You'd be amazed @ the guys who refuse to give their names, they're betting on the County not figuring who they are within 72 hours(Habeas Corpus was actually suspended during the '92 LA Riots-some went a week 'til arraignment & the Feds signed off on it).  The number of "John Does" announced over the P.A. in County is astounding, who knows how they get them all sorted out...

Li'l Robbie At the end of every episode of TMZ's TV show, Harvey Levin

oh, dated Bloome County references aside, he's a lawyer allright-started out as KNBC-4's legal analyst.  He's hated by publicists because he knows just exactly how far 2 go as far as Cali libel & slander laws go, they closed the TMZ HQ @ Sunset & Crescent Heights & moved to an "undisclosed location" that Google tells me is Marina del Rey.  Let's face it, they kicked off TMZ Sports with the Donald Sterling audio...
 
2014-08-22 04:06:48 PM  
srhp29:

And WTF is height: 601 on that report?  601 what?

Most likely "6 FEET 01 INCHES"
 
2014-08-22 08:23:01 PM  

colinspooky: Feel sorry for Scott, but TMZ has done nothing wrong.  Think about it, apart from DNA, how can anyone ever prove who they are. Documents can be faked. And even for DNA to succeed there needs to be a confirmed control sample already in existence


I'd have to see a video of him singing "Pee On You," two forms of government ID, a police officer there to verify the whole thing, four or five of my buddies and Neal taking notes, and Scot Weiland's  grandma to confirm his identity.
 
2014-08-22 09:06:50 PM  
Who?
 
2014-08-22 10:42:12 PM  

PizzaJedi81: Flint Ironstag: Could someone tell this writer the difference between sensor and censor.

I'm still trying to figure out affect and effect.


"The arrow affected the aardvark. It's effect was excruciating."
 
2014-08-22 10:50:42 PM  

colinspooky: Ecobuckeye: colinspooky: Feel sorry for Scott, but TMZ has done nothing wrong.  Think about it, apart from DNA, how can anyone ever prove who they are. Documents can be faked. And even for DNA to succeed there needs to be a confirmed control sample already in existence

You mean actively recording an album in the presence of other people who know you isn't enough proof?

Legally, no. They could be lying. I know it all sounds odd, but the police are convinced they have the same man - and legally again, if you are a reporter, who are you obliged to believe more.


What I don't get is I read an article earlier today that it took 4 weeks for the preps fingerprints to be identified as someone else. How does that happen? Wouldn't they check the prints against what they had on file for Scott?
 
2014-08-23 05:31:51 PM  

PetuniaPumpkin: PizzaJedi81: Flint Ironstag: Could someone tell this writer the difference between sensor and censor.

I'm still trying to figure out affect and effect.

"The arrow affected the aardvark. It's effect was excruciating."


imgs.xkcd.com
 
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