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2014-08-21 10:12:09 AM
Would soft immortality require nerf swords?
 
2014-08-21 10:29:57 AM
Lifespan has nothing to do with drive.  Personality does.  That being said, I would extend my life by another 50 or 100 years.
 
2014-08-21 10:54:37 AM

Nefarious: Would soft immortality require nerf swords?


THERE CAN BE ONLY SEVERAL!
 
2014-08-21 11:07:59 AM

Snarfangel: Nefarious: Would soft immortality require nerf swords?

THERE CAN BE ONLY SEVERAL!


*golfclap*

Now that is damn funny.
 
2014-08-21 01:07:42 PM
But here is the key question: If you could extend your life by another 50 or 100 healthy years, would you?

Can't really answer a question like that without more information. What would the extension require? If it's a pill or something every morning, sure. If it's refraining from sex and consuming only a plastic nutrient solution that eventually makes you a putty-like humanoid, nope.
 
2014-08-21 01:08:24 PM
If life were to disappear in the next few decades, what would be the point of living?

The future belongs to a mighty race of Yogi Berras.
 
2014-08-21 01:10:25 PM
But here is the key question: If you could extend your life by another 50 or 100 healthy years, would you?


Yes. Obviously yes. Everyone would say yes.There isn't a person in history who would say no. That is a stupid question. 50-100 years doesn't even bring up the "immortality sucks" arguments.
 
2014-08-21 01:11:10 PM
Thanks subby. You made me remember that Highlander 2 exists.
 
2014-08-21 01:16:22 PM
It sure would make space exploration easier. But I wont mince words here, the human race greatly benefits from having certain people eventually die.
 
2014-08-21 01:18:20 PM

h0tsauce: Thanks subby. You made me remember that Highlander 2 exists.


healed1337.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-08-21 01:23:58 PM
YES I would take immortality. I am not a fan of the oft-used "Immortality is a cuuurrrseee" trope you see so often these days. The arguments of "OH, but you'll see all the people you know and love DIE!", because... I mean, that happens *anyways*, if you live long enough. The only way to avoid that is to become a friggen hermit.. It's sad, but-you still have the good memories. And they override the sadness. I'd get over it.

I'm also generally able to amuse myself, and eager to both learn and teach people-and with an infinite lifetimes ahead, how much there would be to learn!

((.. I've also been told I teach physics like The Doctor would teach physics, so I consider that another notch in the column))
 
2014-08-21 01:32:03 PM

Makh: Lifespan has nothing to do with drive.  Personality does.


Yeah, most of us aren't doing anything with the lives we have.
 
2014-08-21 01:39:20 PM
There are many (most?) people who don't do a damn thing with the with the few decades we're already given and other who do amazing things with that time.  Why would immortality be any different?  I don't think driven and successful people are that way due to their knowledge of their mortality.  I know I'm not.

I think we (the royal we) could do amazing things with even a few more decades.  I've recently had some older colleagues dye or leave due to failing health who were learning and making important contributions right up to the end.  The amount of experience and knowledge lost when they leave is phenomenal.

/ of course, the flip side is true as well - sometimes a powerful senior figure can impede progress for years until he finally dies or otherwise gets out of the way.
 
2014-08-21 01:44:34 PM
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2014-08-21 02:02:33 PM
Take death, for example: A great deal of our effort goes into avoiding it. We make extraordinary efforts to delay it, and often consider it's intrusion a tragic event. Yet we find it hard to live without it. Death gives meaning to our lives. It gives importance and value to time. Time would become meaningless if there were too much of it. If death were indefinitely put off, the human psyche would end up, well, like the end of a twilight zone episode.
 
2014-08-21 02:03:20 PM
I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even five hundred would be pretty nice.

CEO Nwabudike Morgan, Morganlink 3D-Vision Interview

/Have fun!
 
2014-08-21 02:04:39 PM
If life were to disappear in the next few decades, what would be the point of living?

Idiotic question. Same could be said about any arbitrary length of time, or even without one: what is the point of living?

Why does it have to have a point? Just shut up and enjoy the ride.
 
2014-08-21 02:22:54 PM

DerAppie: I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even five hundred would be pretty nice.

CEO Nwabudike Morgan, Morganlink 3D-Vision Interview

/Have fun!


I swear to god I sometimes think the Republican party takes that man's quotes as GOOD IDEAS.
/"Resources exist to be consumed, and consumed they will be! If not by us, then by some future generation. What right does this forgotten future have to deny us our birthright? None, I say! So let us chew, and eat our fill."
 
2014-08-21 02:28:49 PM
"But here is the key question: If you could extend your life by another 50 or 100 healthy years, would you? "

Depends on what people have to do.  People could extend their healthy lifespan significantly, today, for free, by aerobic exercise 2 hours per week.  A vast majority don't do that.  So, to answer the question in the article, if it requires any personal effort or responsibility, then no, people don't want that.
 
2014-08-21 02:35:45 PM

Felgraf: YES I would take immortality. I am not a fan of the oft-used "Immortality is a cuuurrrseee" trope you see so often these days. The arguments of "OH, but you'll see all the people you know and love DIE!"


... not if they also take immortality.
 
2014-08-21 02:41:17 PM
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2014-08-21 03:23:52 PM
Before a car rolled over me and broke every bone from the waist down, I would have taken the immortality plunge... Now with advanced arthritis, fasciitis, nerve damage, partial paralysis, inflammation, weakened immune system, and irregular digestion... no thanks...
 
2014-08-21 04:00:05 PM

That Guy Jeff: But here is the key question: If you could extend your life by another 50 or 100 healthy years, would you?


Yes. Obviously yes. Everyone would say yes.There isn't a person in history who would say no. That is a stupid question. 50-100 years doesn't even bring up the "immortality sucks" arguments.


well, everyone who believes in god and heaven would say no ...
why would you do anything to delay getting to heaven?
 
2014-08-21 04:02:56 PM

CeroX: Before a car rolled over me and broke every bone from the waist down, I would have taken the immortality plunge... Now with advanced arthritis, fasciitis, nerve damage, partial paralysis, inflammation, weakened immune system, and irregular digestion... no thanks...


But have you seen the advances in technology lately?  If lifespan wasn't an issue, you could eventually end up with some sort of robot servant to assist you with your incapacities.  The Robutler, perhaps.  Maybe nanobots you can eat and assist with your 'regularity' (Activia is working on this as we speak).  You just gotta hang in there, man.
 
2014-08-21 04:10:24 PM

CeroX: Before a car rolled over me and broke every bone from the waist down, I would have taken the immortality plunge... Now with advanced arthritis, fasciitis, nerve damage, partial paralysis, inflammation, weakened immune system, and irregular digestion... no thanks...


I would hope you live long enough for science to fix those problems... And then at least a few decades more.

One of the saddest things is someone who dies just before their cure comes out.
 
2014-08-21 04:16:56 PM

serial arseonist: your 'regularity'


It damaged some organs, so by irregular, i don't mean the frequency in which i poo... It's a sensitivity thing, like IBS but caused by nerve damage...
 
2014-08-21 04:17:32 PM

WelldeadLink: Felgraf: YES I would take immortality. I am not a fan of the oft-used "Immortality is a cuuurrrseee" trope you see so often these days. The arguments of "OH, but you'll see all the people you know and love DIE!"

... not if they also take immortality.


This.
 
2014-08-21 04:22:48 PM
fc07.deviantart.net                                                                                                        "You are not yet ready for immortality."
 
2014-08-21 04:24:05 PM

elchupacabra: CeroX: Before a car rolled over me and broke every bone from the waist down, I would have taken the immortality plunge... Now with advanced arthritis, fasciitis, nerve damage, partial paralysis, inflammation, weakened immune system, and irregular digestion... no thanks...

I would hope you live long enough for science to fix those problems... And then at least a few decades more.

One of the saddest things is someone who dies just before their cure comes out.


I'd say sadder still is someone who dies just after their cure comes out.
 
2014-08-21 04:44:56 PM
Isn't this essentially the plot of Zardoz?
 
2014-08-21 04:55:10 PM
I don't know that I'd want immortality but another few thousand years would be nice. 'Course that means I'd have to get to work cleaning up the planet. Don't want to live in a pigsty.
 
2014-08-21 05:15:04 PM

Felgraf: YES I would take immortality. I am not a fan of the oft-used "Immortality is a cuuurrrseee" trope you see so often these days. The arguments of "OH, but you'll see all the people you know and love DIE!", because... I mean, that happens *anyways*, if you live long enough. The only way to avoid that is to become a friggen hermit.. It's sad, but-you still have the good memories. And they override the sadness. I'd get over it.

I'm also generally able to amuse myself, and eager to both learn and teach people-and with an infinite lifetimes ahead, how much there would be to learn!

((.. I've also been told I teach physics like The Doctor would teach physics, so I consider that another notch in the column))


I just started a new thing. Reading a text book on a topic that I know nothing or just what you might read on fark. It has been FANTASTIC. Finished my first book and my sister immediately stole it to read.
I could see spending eternity learning new things and extending human knowledge, forever.

oh what books?


Already Read

kon-tiki and voyage of the rah and everything else written by Thor Heyerdahl
Great reads for discovery.

Stumbling on Happiness
Read this book NOW!
The Two-Mile Time Machine: Ice Cores, Abrupt Climate Change, and Our Future
Fantastic book on Greenland Ice Cores. We all know that they drill these cores and do things with them. This book will give you a ton of interesting detail on the how and what.

The Secret of Scent: Adventures in Perfume and the Science of Smell
The currently accepted theory of smell doesnt work. Proof? They can not use the theory to create new molecules that smell the way the theory predicts. Turin's theory WORKS, he has created a company that is producing synthetic molecules to reproduce scents.

Stranger still, his theory is rejected.
The Chemists say that the chemistry is fine, but they cant comment on the physics nor the biology.
The Physicists say that the physics is fine, but they cant comment on the chemistry nor the biology.
The Biologists say that the biology is fine, but they cant comment on the physics nor the chemistry.

Gideon's Trumpet
Interesting read on one of the most important SCOTUS rulings and how The Court work.
Fun short henry fonda movie too! Strange enough, Henry Fonda plays a petty thief!

dendrochronology - tree rings
Everyone knows that you can count tree rings to tell how old a tree is or was. But did you know that they have a 12,000 series of overlapping tree rings which allow you to accurately date a piece of wood?
Did you know that this data is so accurate, that they use this data to properly calibrate Carbon Dating, which is less accurate?

Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About It
Very compelling read on the history if fat, the history of treating diabetes, the state of the understanding of nutrition, digestion and metabolism.  (hint: you are addicted to sugar and starch. kick the habit.)


Reading Now

The Big Bang Never Happened: A Startling Refutation of the Dominant Theory of the Origin of the Universe
Interesting theory refuting The Big Bang. Gives a lot of history of our understanding of Origins.
Hint, if you have two theories, and one theory does a better job of explaining the observed data, that is probably the more correct theory. No matter how many people like the less accurate theory.


Reading Soon
phagocytes virus
The Forgotten Cure: The Past and Future of Phage Therapy
"Bacteriophages have the potential to stop many if not most life threatening, drug resistant bacterial infections."  This is exciting science that is almost completely ignored in the US.


Proof: The Science of Booze
Like I need a reason to read this? HAH
 
2014-08-21 05:31:13 PM
 If an individual survives childhood, his or her chances of living longer greatly increase.

That's some fine scienstistical work there, Lou.
 
2014-08-21 06:53:19 PM

elchupacabra: One of the saddest things is someone who dies just before their cure comes out.


www.smbc-comics.com
 
2014-08-21 06:53:23 PM

johnson442: [fc07.deviantart.net image 683x1024]                                                                                                        "You are not yet ready for immortality."


when that show was good, it was GREAT.
too bad it only lasted 4 seasons, at least they wrapped it up

(no, that 5th season was an abortion after the fact POS)
 
2014-08-21 07:19:29 PM
I'm more interested in ... Not sure of the term, but decreased decrepitude?

I'd hate to live 200 years as if I was in my late 70s most of that time.

My best "shape" years were about 19-22 and then 34-38, oddly enough, so I wouldn't obsess over being perpetually 18-21 for decades, but would be nice to be no "older" than 40 for a century or so.
 
2014-08-21 07:20:13 PM
As a solution to the pension fund shortcall, it's a ballsy move.
 
KIA
2014-08-21 08:04:26 PM
Oh, boo-hoo, some people will get bored!  So, there's every reason to keep on spending money on educating replacement people, funeral homes, cemeteries, medicine which has advanced only a little since the age of leeches and purgatives, pyramid schemes for retirement income, and over-indulging greedy expectant children.
 
2014-08-21 11:27:10 PM
We'd have to radically change the way people earn a living. We've already got people griping about how they can't get a promotion because the geezer in the job slot won't retire. Imagine if that guy didn't retire for another few decades, or even centuries!
 
2014-08-21 11:32:35 PM

geek_mars: We'd have to radically change the way people earn a living. We've already got people griping about how they can't get a promotion because the geezer in the job slot won't retire. Imagine if that guy didn't retire for another few decades, or even centuries!


If only there were some ancient, time-tested method of providing food and shelter for your family that didn't involve enriching management and ownership of a business that exists by peddling goods and/or services in trade for currency used to purchase food and shelter for your family.
 
2014-08-21 11:42:55 PM

johnson442: [fc07.deviantart.net image 683x1024]                                                                                                        "You are not yet ready for immortality."


I see what you did there.

Yes, yes we are ready Kosh.
 
2014-08-22 10:10:27 AM
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