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(American Thinker)   The media insisted on telling the same embarrassingly fraudulent story they had told in the Martin shooting: innocent teen, academically ambitious, minding his own business, profiled by racist white vigilante --this time cop   (americanthinker.com) divider line 476
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2014-08-21 09:30:09 AM  
I really don't care about that narrative- I care about how much knob these jerkoffs are gobbling for the cops when it wasn't that long ago we heard "Sic semper tyrannis!" ala the BLM and whatnot. You'd think they could go, well, this kid was totally guilty, but even so, jackboots or militarized police forces are something to be against, etc. But, no.

I guess the jackboots are okay when they're not specifically fighting against you, eh?

It's way too bad cognitive dissonance isn't a painful and terminal disease.
 
2014-08-21 09:45:31 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-08-21 09:47:28 AM  
Is it just me, or has it taken longer than usual for conservatives to build up their alternate-reality bubble for this one?  I remember back in the 2012 campaign they could get that shiat together overnight.  When Clint Eastwood went full-alzheimer's patient at the convention, Fox had their "2deep4libs" story down by the next morning.
 
2014-08-21 09:53:06 AM  

dookdookdook: Is it just me, or has it taken longer than usual for conservatives to build up their alternate-reality bubble for this one?  I remember back in the 2012 campaign they could get that shiat together overnight.  When Clint Eastwood went full-alzheimer's patient at the convention, Fox had their "2deep4libs" story down by the next morning.


I think this one is a bit more unsettling for the media to put out because of the way the police have been treating the media.
 
2014-08-21 09:55:04 AM  

ragekage: I really don't care about that narrative- I care about how much knob these jerkoffs are supporting violent protestors and not the police that are trying to keep order when it wasn't that long ago we heard go in with guns and tanks and stomp them out in force" ala the BLM and whatnot. You'd think they could "go, well, this kid is totally innocent, but even so, looting stores, shooting fellow protestors, and setting fires etc. are something to be against. But, no.

I guess civil disobedience and fighting the government is ok> when you're sympathetic to the cause, eh?

It's way too bad cognitive dissonance isn't a painful and terminal disease.

 
2014-08-21 09:56:33 AM  

dookdookdook: Is it just me, or has it taken longer than usual for conservatives to build up their alternate-reality bubble for this one?  I remember back in the 2012 campaign they could get that shiat together overnight.  When Clint Eastwood went full-alzheimer's patient at the convention, Fox had their "2deep4libs" story down by the next morning.


Well, this is the "American Thinker" so it takes them time to, um, think of anything.  I just love that name, given the average IQ there must be about room temperature, it's always good for a laugh.  "Tea Party Thinker" is more accurate but not as funny.

I'm wondering how many black people were on that jury (of 12, not 6).
 
2014-08-21 09:58:47 AM  
What's the NRA's take on this situation? Should more people be armed to make sure the police behave?
 
2014-08-21 10:04:23 AM  

enry: What's the NRA's take on this situation?


Silence.
 
2014-08-21 10:15:59 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: enry: What's the NRA's take on this situation?

Silence.


I was half joking because I really didn't look, but you're right.  Google said there was an article from NRA-ILA about store owners defending their stores, but the page on nraila.org is gone.

Lots of article pointing out the silence though.
 
2014-08-21 10:17:30 AM  
innocent teen, academically ambitious, minding his own business, profiled by racist white vigilante

That sells more advertising than "pothead killed after robbing convenience store and attacking police".
 
2014-08-21 10:27:13 AM  

dookdookdook: Is it just me, or has it taken longer than usual for conservatives to build up their alternate-reality bubble for this one?  I remember back in the 2012 campaign they could get that shiat together overnight.  When Clint Eastwood went full-alzheimer's patient at the convention, Fox had their "2deep4libs" story down by the next morning.


Nah.  They had the "the black thug beat up the officer" narrative up and running pretty early on.
 
2014-08-21 10:31:24 AM  

El_Perro: dookdookdook: Is it just me, or has it taken longer than usual for conservatives to build up their alternate-reality bubble for this one?  I remember back in the 2012 campaign they could get that shiat together overnight.  When Clint Eastwood went full-alzheimer's patient at the convention, Fox had their "2deep4libs" story down by the next morning.

Nah.  They had the "the black thug beat up the officer" narrative up and running pretty early on.


it's just taken far more to get traction because we were far more "what the fark? Ferguson is next to Baghdad" in our reactions.
 
2014-08-21 10:33:27 AM  
Oh boy. It's going to be Thinker Thursday up in here. Batten down the hatches!
 
2014-08-21 10:33:39 AM  
Why is the face of the cop caved in after this incident? Recoil?

And why is it I can only find references to this in (what Farker's typically consider conservative) news sources?
 
2014-08-21 10:34:39 AM  
I liked Time Cop
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-08-21 10:41:41 AM  

Destructor: And why is it I can only find references to this in (what Farker's typically consider conservative) news sources?


Because it's not true?
 
2014-08-21 10:45:55 AM  

Elegy: ragekage: I really don't care about that narrative- I care about how much knob these jerkoffs are supporting violent protestors and not the police that are trying to keep order when it wasn't that long ago we heard go in with guns and tanks and stomp them out in force" ala the BLM and whatnot. You'd think they could "go, well, this kid is totally innocent, but even so, looting stores, shooting fellow protestors, and setting fires etc. are something to be against. But, no.

I guess civil disobedience and fighting the government is ok> when you're sympathetic to the cause, eh?

It's way too bad cognitive dissonance isn't a painful and terminal disease.


I don't get it. You should be against militarized police forces no matter what. If you want to whinge about false equivalencies and straw men, fine. Me, I don't care who's on the other end, because some day it might be me if it's left unchecked. I mean, what it seems to me that you're suggesting is that it would've been completely justified to use any tactics whatsoever against "violent protesters", which I guess you're suggesting the militia folks in Nevada were?

That's my point. You don't get to pick and choose at your convenience. Just like the people who think the first amendment only applies to their speech.

"Must be a yearning deep in human heart to stop other people from doing as they please. Rules and laws are always for the other fellow. Because not one of those people said: "Please pass this (law) so that I won't be able to do something I know I should stop." Nyet, tovarishchee, was always something they hated to see neighbors doing. Stop them "for their own good"--not because speaker claimed to be harmed by it."
 
2014-08-21 10:45:57 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Destructor: And why is it I can only find references to this in (what Farker's typically consider conservative) news sources?

Because it's not true?


That would definitely explain it.
 
2014-08-21 10:48:23 AM  

Destructor: Why is the face of the cop caved in after this incident? Recoil?

And why is it I can only find references to this in (what Farker's typically consider conservative) news sources?


Why did it take this information longer to come out than video of Brown at the convenience store?

I'm patiently waiting for all the information to come out before I decide what I should, uh, decide, but the entire thing since has a complete clusterfark the police brass.
 
2014-08-21 10:52:19 AM  

I_Am_Weasel: ...but the entire thing since has a complete clusterfark the police brass.


I seriously doubt if you could find anyone on the planet that could disagree with that assessment.
 
2014-08-21 10:53:49 AM  

somedude210: it's just taken far more to get traction because we were far more "what the fark? Ferguson is next to Baghdad" in our reactions.


Remember Zimmerman? It took months for evidence like the photos of his injuries to make their way into the media.

It's been what, a week? This is just ramping up, and it's done so really quickly.

Destructor: Why is the face of the cop caved in after this incident? Recoil?

And why is it I can only find references to this in (what Farker's typically consider conservative) news sources?


Once again: Zimmerman. Remember how there was "video evidence from the police station" that proved he had "no injuries at all" and on only conservative trolls and liars believed the contrary.

And then, suddenly, photos.

ragekage: I don't get it.


I wouldn't worry about it, then.
 
2014-08-21 10:55:30 AM  

Destructor: Why is the face of the cop caved in after this incident? Recoil?

And why is it I can only find references to this in (what Farker's typically consider conservative) news sources?


Because it was a totally anonymous source who either no other news outlet thought was credible, or who refused to talk to anyone except Fox News.  Neither of those things scream "believability".
 
2014-08-21 10:59:20 AM  

Destructor: I_Am_Weasel: ...but the entire thing since has a complete clusterfark the police brass.

I seriously doubt if you could find anyone on the planet that could disagree with that assessment.



Oh I bet there will be people in this thread who will disagree,
 
2014-08-21 10:59:32 AM  
Elegy:Remember Zimmerman?

Get over it already.  Meathead with anger issues and a gun fetish went vigilante, started an unnecessary fight, killed an innocent kid, and only avoided prison because Florida.
 
2014-08-21 11:01:41 AM  

dookdookdook: Because it was a totally anonymous source who either no other news outlet thought was credible, or who refused to talk to anyone except Fox News. Neither of those things scream "believability".


Lately, I'm inclined to doubt a story until I see it reported (not just acknowledged) in two different politically aligned sources. ABC doesn't quite cut it, but we're getting there. I'm waiting for the NYT or LAT to make some noise.

ABC just weighed in on this.
 
2014-08-21 11:07:03 AM  
Nice to see once again the FARK 'liberal' brigade comes out and immediately jumps to conclusions regardless of any facts that might come out. Immediately blame sources or web-sites and not disprove anything the article says. This is the type of shait Drew should be concerned with as there used to be somewhat rational discussion on this site but they've mostly left due to unintellectual responses for the liberals who seem to dominate this site.
 
2014-08-21 11:08:59 AM  
Destructor: ABC just weighed in on this.

1) There have been several incidents of real news outlets deciding to run dubious stories after Fox decided to run with them, and getting bitten in the ass later on when they were proven to be bullshiat.

2) Even if hypothetically dude did punch the cop in the face, that's not justification for killing him.  This is Missouri, not Florida.
 
2014-08-21 11:09:47 AM  

Destructor: And why is it I can only find references to this in (what Farker's typically consider conservative) news sources?


To be fair, ABC News has reported it as well.  Still based on an anonymous (or at least unnamed) source, but it's being reported a bit outside of the typical derposphere.
 
2014-08-21 11:10:44 AM  

Destructor: dookdookdook: Because it was a totally anonymous source who either no other news outlet thought was credible, or who refused to talk to anyone except Fox News. Neither of those things scream "believability".

Lately, I'm inclined to doubt a story until I see it reported (not just acknowledged) in two different politically aligned sources. ABC doesn't quite cut it, but we're getting there. I'm waiting for the NYT or LAT to make some noise.

ABC just weighed in on this.


Didn't see that you posted this already.
 
2014-08-21 11:12:13 AM  
I can't believe anyone is taking the side of the police on this one. This isn't even some moronic gun rights or self defense issue like with Trayvon Martin. There is absolutely no reason for there to be any argument here at all. My mind bogles.
 
2014-08-21 11:12:20 AM  
Do conservatives ever ask themselves why they reflexively search for bad things about the black guy in these stories?
 
2014-08-21 11:15:11 AM  

ferretman: not disprove anything the article says.


What?  The article literally says nothing.  The first several paragraphs are basically "Liberal Media, amirite?", segueing into some whining about Zimmerman, and just when I think it's about to finally get around to making some kind of real point, it suddenly ends.  (But not before a random insinuation out of nowhere that the media is in bed with ISIS)
 
2014-08-21 11:17:02 AM  

ragekage: I really don't care about that narrative- I care about how much knob these jerkoffs are gobbling for the cops when it wasn't that long ago we heard "Sic semper tyrannis!" ala the BLM and whatnot. You'd think they could go, well, this kid was totally guilty, but even so, jackboots or militarized police forces are something to be against, etc. But, no.

I guess the jackboots are okay when they're not specifically fighting against you, eh?

It's way too bad cognitive dissonance isn't a painful and terminal disease.


i.dailymail.co.uk

How about jackboot snipers? Are they patriots or militarized oppressors? I get confused.

/this guy wanted his pic taken when he was aiming at law enforcement officers. I guess his message to LEOs got through.
 
2014-08-21 11:17:40 AM  

El_Perro: Destructor: And why is it I can only find references to this in (what Farker's typically consider conservative) news sources?

To be fair, ABC News has reported it as well.  Still based on an anonymous (or at least unnamed) source, but it's being reported a bit outside of the typical derposphere.


You could argue he's in shock, but this does not look like the posture of a guy whose face was just "caved in."
static2.nydailynews.com
 
2014-08-21 11:17:49 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Do conservatives ever ask themselves why they reflexively search for bad things about the black guy in these stories?


No, because they know why... The black guy is always in the wrong and deserved whatever they got.
 
2014-08-21 11:18:20 AM  

CPennypacker: I can't believe anyone is taking the side of the police on this one. This isn't even some moronic gun rights or self defense issue like with Trayvon Martin. There is absolutely no reason for there to be any argument here at all. My mind bogles.


That has yet to be determined.  I agree that people shouldn't be "taking the side of the police on this one," but primarily because it's too soon to take ANY side on this one.  We just don't know enough about what happened in the altercation leading up to the shooting.
 
2014-08-21 11:18:53 AM  

ragekage: I really don't care about that narrative- I care about how much knob these jerkoffs are gobbling for the cops when it wasn't that long ago we heard "Sic semper tyrannis!" ala the BLM and whatnot. You'd think they could go, well, this kid was totally guilty, but even so, jackboots or militarized police forces are something to be against, etc. But, no.

I guess the jackboots are okay when they're not specifically fighting against you, eh?

It's way too bad cognitive dissonance isn't a painful and terminal disease.


Bundy's a patriot.
Brown was blah
 
2014-08-21 11:19:01 AM  

ferretman: Nice to see once again the FARK 'liberal' brigade comes out and immediately jumps to conclusions regardless of any facts that might come out. Immediately blame sources or web-sites and not disprove anything the article says. This is the type of shait Drew should be concerned with as there used to be somewhat rational discussion on this site but they've mostly left due to unintellectual responses for the liberals who seem to dominate this site.


You know what's funny? I never see people like you who complain about liberals on this site ever call out some of the blatantly racist comments that have popped up in the Ferguson threads.

but no, you're right. We shouldn't bash the "facts" in an article that aren't corroborated by any other news source aside from a few blogs that are citing the same article. Or doubt facts that have one anonymous source that is willing to talk to only one news outlet and no one else. You're right, we shouldn't bash them.
 
2014-08-21 11:19:01 AM  

ferretman: Immediately blame sources or web-sites and not disprove anything the article says.


It's "American Thinker".

Even conservatives that prefer a healthy diet of screed and Republican vanity think it's a terrible site.
 
2014-08-21 11:19:13 AM  
And the conservative media is also telling the same embarrassingly fraudulent story.  That a black kid carrying a bag of skittles or stealing a few black and milds has committed a crime warranting deadly force.
 
2014-08-21 11:19:24 AM  

Destructor: Why is the face of the cop caved in after this incident? Recoil?

And why is it I can only find references to this in (what Farker's typically consider conservative) news sources?


Oh yeah.. A Washington Times article quoting a source that spoke to Fox news.  That's really credible. /s
 
2014-08-21 11:20:33 AM  
 

enry: What's the NRA's take on this situation? Should more people be armed to make sure the police behave?


Only whites that live in Suburbia.

Those guys want the illusion of being a gunslinger in a dangerous world, not the reality.
 
2014-08-21 11:21:16 AM  

dookdookdook: Elegy:Remember Zimmerman?

Get over it already.  Meathead with anger issues


No doubt about that, wannbe cop, and undoubted bigot, for no good reason, inserted himself into a situation he was utterly incapable of handling.

None of those things are amiable traits, but none of them are illegal either. You don't get to mount and ground and pound somebody just because they are an a-hole, that's a potentially lethal assault, and will tend to get you shot if said a-hole has a gun...
 
2014-08-21 11:22:19 AM  

El_Perro: That has yet to be determined.  I agree that people shouldn't be "taking the side of the police on this one," but primarily because it's too soon to take ANY side on this one.  We just don't know enough about what happened in the altercation leading up to the shooting.


Except for, y'know, all the eyewitnesses.
 
2014-08-21 11:22:38 AM  

gilgigamesh: dj_bigbird: I liked Time Cop
[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x328]

Hahaha. I remember that stupid movie.

Seriously, Modmins, this headline is literally just a sentence plagiarized from tfa, and Subby didn't even get that right.

A couple of days ago Drew, in an apparent drunken rage, nuked not only my greenlight but the ENTIRE FRIKKIN THREAD because my headline "sucked balls" (which it did, admittedly).

This is the level of quality Fark is going for then, huh?


But did it offend anyone?
 
2014-08-21 11:23:26 AM  
So here's the thing about this one, though.

Even if Mike Brown full-on assaulted the cop to the point where Mike was standing over him, action-movie-villain-like, to begin the Final Monologue before putting one through Officer Joe Hero's brainpan, and the cop acted entirely By The Book such that not even Dredd could say "Boo", the police response to the protests and riots is and was entirely out of control.

It absolutely looked like one of Those Countries we send aid (or bombs) to - arresting journalists and threatening to fire at them particularly so.

// Merkathumper doesn't know context?
// I haz a shok
 
2014-08-21 11:24:31 AM  

dforkus: You don't get to mount and ground and pound somebody just because they are an a-hole, that's a potentially lethal assault, and will tend to get you shot if said a-hole has a gun...


Sometimes I wonder how literally every bar fight in Florida doesn't end in (totally legal) homicide.
 
2014-08-21 11:25:39 AM  

dookdookdook: El_Perro: That has yet to be determined.  I agree that people shouldn't be "taking the side of the police on this one," but primarily because it's too soon to take ANY side on this one.  We just don't know enough about what happened in the altercation leading up to the shooting.

Except for, y'know, all the eyewitnesses.


Except that the eyewitnesses don't all tell the same story so there is still more to learn.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-08-21 11:26:32 AM  
You can be concerned for the safety of cops AND think that police brutality, abuse of power, and overuse of military equipment is a problem at the same time.

Why does *EVERY* FARKING public debate have to a false dilemma?  Have EVERYONE forgotten how to have an intelligent debate on the public square.  Have assholes like Limbo and O'Reilly finally ended critical thinking to that extent??
 
2014-08-21 11:26:46 AM  
img.fark.net

If the dude in that video is the shooter there's no farking way he has a massive facial injury here.
 
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