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2014-08-20 06:44:34 PM  
They expected this was going to happen.  On the radio last week they even interviewed the plaintiffs in the case who wanted it because it would avoid a mess down the line if marriages were declared valid and then null and void later.  They're just going to wait for the final decision.
 
2014-08-20 06:54:25 PM  
No way this was gonna be allowed to happen in this backwards state. They just started allowing blacks and whites to marry in 1967. We're still not as bad as Alabama. They didn't allow it until the year 2000.

 In 2000, Alabama became the last state to adapt its laws to the Supreme Court's decision, by removing a provision prohibiting mixed-race marriage from its state constitution through a ballot initiative. 60% of voters voted for the removal of the anti-miscegenation rule, and 40% against

40% voted against it in the year 2000? Really Alabama? Really?
 
2014-08-20 07:25:08 PM  

Lsherm: They expected this was going to happen.  On the radio last week they even interviewed the plaintiffs in the case who wanted it because it would avoid a mess down the line if marriages were declared valid and then null and void later.  They're just going to wait for the final decision.


Well, we're all done here. Someone get the lights?
 
2014-08-20 07:27:56 PM  

Walker: 40% voted against it in the year 2000? Really Alabama? Really?


I lived in Alabama in the mid 80s and i don't find this too surprising. Heck living in Huntsville which was know for the Marshall Space Flight Center, Redstone Arsenal and a good college to boot you know there were a lot of well educated people there in comparison to most of the state.

Most of the black guys I knew would NOT go out alone at night if they could help it
 
2014-08-20 07:36:31 PM  

Lsherm: They expected this was going to happen.  On the radio last week they even interviewed the plaintiffs in the case who wanted it because it would avoid a mess down the line if marriages were declared valid and then null and void later.  They're just going to wait for the final decision.



Because if the wingnut god squad wins and the law is upheld, that will be the end of it? Does anyone actually believe that? The only way this doesn't end in a mess is when the last unconstitutional law is overturned and same sex marriage is legal in all 50 states.
 
2014-08-20 07:37:51 PM  

Dinki: The only way this doesn't end in a mess is when the last unconstitutional law is overturned and same sex marriage is legal in all 50 states.


It'll still be a mess, it'll just be one that the right-wingers will have to live with.  Fark em.
 
2014-08-20 07:41:10 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Dinki: The only way this doesn't end in a mess is when the last unconstitutional law is overturned and same sex marriage is legal in all 50 states.

It'll still be a mess, it'll just be one that the right-wingers will have to live with.  Fark em.


I dunno, they've been pretty good at farking up women's access to abortion clinics. They'll figure out a way to fark with the homogheys too.
 
2014-08-20 07:41:32 PM  

Walker: No way this was gonna be allowed to happen in this backwards state. They just started allowing blacks and whites to marry in 1967. We're still not as bad as Alabama. They didn't allow it until the year 2000.

 In 2000, Alabama became the last state to adapt its laws to the Supreme Court's decision, by removing a provision prohibiting mixed-race marriage from its state constitution through a ballot initiative. 60% of voters voted for the removal of the anti-miscegenation rule, and 40% against

40% voted against it in the year 2000? Really Alabama? Really?


they removed a meaningless piece of writing from their constitution.
it had zero effect on the law
strange how federal trumps state law
 
2014-08-20 07:42:44 PM  

grumpfuff: RedPhoenix122: Dinki: The only way this doesn't end in a mess is when the last unconstitutional law is overturned and same sex marriage is legal in all 50 states.

It'll still be a mess, it'll just be one that the right-wingers will have to live with.  Fark em.

I dunno, they've been pretty good at farking up women's access to abortion clinics. They'll figure out a way to fark with the homogheys too.


You're right, but luckily they're a dying breed.

/The republicans, that is.
 
2014-08-20 07:43:01 PM  

Dinki: Lsherm: They expected this was going to happen.  On the radio last week they even interviewed the plaintiffs in the case who wanted it because it would avoid a mess down the line if marriages were declared valid and then null and void later.  They're just going to wait for the final decision.


Because if the wingnut god squad wins and the law is upheld, that will be the end of it? Does anyone actually believe that? The only way this doesn't end in a mess is when the last unconstitutional law is overturned and same sex marriage is legal in all 50 states.


well scotus will rule next year making same-sex marriage legal in every state, overturning all state laws and constitution amendments against it.
 
2014-08-20 08:39:34 PM  

Dinki: Lsherm: They expected this was going to happen.  On the radio last week they even interviewed the plaintiffs in the case who wanted it because it would avoid a mess down the line if marriages were declared valid and then null and void later.  They're just going to wait for the final decision.


Because if the wingnut god squad wins and the law is upheld, that will be the end of it? Does anyone actually believe that? The only way this doesn't end in a mess is when the last unconstitutional law is overturned and same sex marriage is legal in all 50 states.


No, but there's a process to get there, and if even the plaintiffs are willing to wait for it to finish, then there's no good reason to try and skip it like they did with Roe v. Wade.
 
2014-08-20 08:53:32 PM  
the cradle of the confederacy...the home of jerry falwell....will have gay marriage

bwah hah ha ha ha!

and good for them. trust me, it's been around for awhile in Iowa now and everyone is pretty much meh after a few early hiccups. Even the fundies realize they have lost this war
 
2014-08-20 08:53:59 PM  
We need more people in NOVA to outvote the hicks in the rest of this state
 
2014-08-20 08:58:32 PM  

charlesmartel11235: We need more people in NOVA to outvote the hicks in the rest of this state


We already have so many people here that traffic doesn't move. If we get anymore, it will start to go backwards.

/wait, what?
 
2014-08-20 09:02:20 PM  

namatad: Walker: No way this was gonna be allowed to happen in this backwards state. They just started allowing blacks and whites to marry in 1967. We're still not as bad as Alabama. They didn't allow it until the year 2000.

 In 2000, Alabama became the last state to adapt its laws to the Supreme Court's decision, by removing a provision prohibiting mixed-race marriage from its state constitution through a ballot initiative. 60% of voters voted for the removal of the anti-miscegenation rule, and 40% against

40% voted against it in the year 2000? Really Alabama? Really?

they removed a meaningless piece of writing from their constitution.
it had zero effect on the law
strange how federal trumps state law


Not the point: In the year 2000, 40% of voting Alabamans voted against removing a law that forbade whites and blacks from marrying one another.

Just pointing out how end of racism is still a loooooong way off.
 
2014-08-20 09:02:54 PM  

charlesmartel11235: We need more people in NOVA to outvote the hicks in the rest of this state


While there's still quite a few hicks still out here in the sticks, it has changed a lot.  I'm way out here on the far end of the state, and honestly, it's only an issue with the fundies that are left.  My daughter's peer group (early 20's) are very open minded about such things, and most of them see gay as just another trait some people have.

So yeah, the old farts out here are still mostly stuck in their old world ways, but it is changing, fast.
 
2014-08-20 09:05:44 PM  
Emergency Supreme Court Injunction for a wedding.... You have to be Fing kidding me.

We have laws up the ying-yang being broken all over the nation, and the court finds time to do something besides ignore a wedding in VA>

What a douche Judge.
 
2014-08-20 09:07:21 PM  
I really wish journalists would stop flip-flopping back and forth between VA as Virginia (correct) and VA as U.S. Dept. of Veterans Affairs (wrong).
 
2014-08-20 09:08:13 PM  

Lsherm: Dinki: Lsherm: They expected this was going to happen.  On the radio last week they even interviewed the plaintiffs in the case who wanted it because it would avoid a mess down the line if marriages were declared valid and then null and void later.  They're just going to wait for the final decision.


Because if the wingnut god squad wins and the law is upheld, that will be the end of it? Does anyone actually believe that? The only way this doesn't end in a mess is when the last unconstitutional law is overturned and same sex marriage is legal in all 50 states.

No, but there's a process to get there, and if even the plaintiffs are willing to wait for it to finish, then there's no good reason to try and skip it like they did with Roe v. Wade.


Nothing was skipped with Roe v. Wade. That was part of the process.
 
2014-08-20 09:08:24 PM  
Hampton Roads and NOVA, the more populated areas, are democrat (err.... Chesapeake and Virginia Beach has tons of rich white folks who are scared of anything other than pale, but you get my point), we just need more people to get out and vote, more people to make their voices heard to overpower the rural farknuts.

Virginia has long been a swing state, but it's gone blue the last two elections. It's not as redneck as most will paint it.

/Norfolk, Ghent
 
2014-08-20 09:09:44 PM  
I cant believe these people can have a straight face and call themselves the Alliance Defending Freedom
 
2014-08-20 09:11:01 PM  

Walker: charlesmartel11235: We need more people in NOVA to outvote the hicks in the rest of this state

We already have so many people here that traffic doesn't move. If we get anymore, it will start to go backwards.

/wait, what?


Isn't that how Obama's time machine works?
 
2014-08-20 09:11:42 PM  
The thing that gets me, is that to issue the injunction, the court found a real danger of "irreparable harm" from letting the gays marry during the interceding period. I'd like someone to clearly articulate just what that irreparable harm might consist of.
 
2014-08-20 09:11:53 PM  

namatad: Walker: No way this was gonna be allowed to happen in this backwards state. They just started allowing blacks and whites to marry in 1967. We're still not as bad as Alabama. They didn't allow it until the year 2000.

 In 2000, Alabama became the last state to adapt its laws to the Supreme Court's decision, by removing a provision prohibiting mixed-race marriage from its state constitution through a ballot initiative. 60% of voters voted for the removal of the anti-miscegenation rule, and 40% against

40% voted against it in the year 2000? Really Alabama? Really?

they removed a meaningless piece of writing from their constitution.
it had zero effect on the law
strange how federal trumps state law


pretty much this so, meh. I mean have you seen the Alabama constitution. It has like 900 amendments now. Getting anything removed from it is a big deal.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Alabama

As far as the 40% against - umm, yeah. Can I blame that all on Lee County?  It's gotta be those Auburn peeps, amirite?
 
2014-08-20 09:12:18 PM  

Waldo Pepper: Omahawg: the cradle of the confederacy...the home of jerry falwell....will have gay marriage

bwah hah ha ha ha!

and good for them. trust me, it's been around for awhile in Iowa now and everyone is pretty much meh after a few early hiccups. Even the fundies realize they have lost this war

sure that is all Virginia has contributed to the United States. rolls eyes


They also gave us Eric Cantor and a whole lot of support for the Confederacy... better?
 
2014-08-20 09:16:19 PM  

namatad: they removed a meaningless piece of writing from their constitution.
it had zero effect on the law


Still kind of  disturbing that a AL State Rep would go on record as personally against interracial marriage, and actually treat the law like a slippery slope to same-sex marriage, even voting for the repeal.
 
2014-08-20 09:16:58 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: namatad: Walker: No way this was gonna be allowed to happen in this backwards state. They just started allowing blacks and whites to marry in 1967. We're still not as bad as Alabama. They didn't allow it until the year 2000.

 In 2000, Alabama became the last state to adapt its laws to the Supreme Court's decision, by removing a provision prohibiting mixed-race marriage from its state constitution through a ballot initiative. 60% of voters voted for the removal of the anti-miscegenation rule, and 40% against

40% voted against it in the year 2000? Really Alabama? Really?

they removed a meaningless piece of writing from their constitution.
it had zero effect on the law
strange how federal trumps state law

Not the point: In the year 2000, 40% of voting Alabamans voted against removing a law that forbade whites and blacks from marrying one another.

Just pointing out how end of racism is still a loooooong way off.


That's for sure. Feel free to head over to Twitter and see what the white conservatives have to say about Furguson. Seriously, they are actually quoting Mark Fuhrman as their expert on the issue.
 
2014-08-20 09:17:44 PM  
Too late now!

Govts. should have never gotten involved with NEARLY anything to do with marriages, divorces, alimony. It should have been a religion-based or non-church based arrangement. No licenses, nothing. Child custody and child support, yes. From date of marriage to the date of the divorce is the only properties that have standing for division. Division based on who provided income and who racked up debt. Slippery slope we're well down the rabbit hole in.
 
2014-08-20 09:20:49 PM  
This is just each side trying to play checkmate on each other. Now they'll get their big chance.
 
2014-08-20 09:21:43 PM  

charlesmartel11235: We need more people in NOVA to outvote the hicks in the rest of this state


Generals Lee & Jackson didn't fight for the great state of Virginia so that a bunch of gheys could come in the future and be openly queer.

/off my VA mountain
 
2014-08-20 09:23:22 PM  
Gayness delayed is gayness denied!

Stay in that closet, VA.
 
2014-08-20 09:30:49 PM  
Disordered behaviour is still disordered behaviour.
Not really worth the fight anymore.
But tides do change.
 
2014-08-20 09:31:55 PM  
Procedural.  Not news.
 
2014-08-20 09:32:49 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: namatad: Walker: No way this was gonna be allowed to happen in this backwards state. They just started allowing blacks and whites to marry in 1967. We're still not as bad as Alabama. They didn't allow it until the year 2000.

 In 2000, Alabama became the last state to adapt its laws to the Supreme Court's decision, by removing a provision prohibiting mixed-race marriage from its state constitution through a ballot initiative. 60% of voters voted for the removal of the anti-miscegenation rule, and 40% against

40% voted against it in the year 2000? Really Alabama? Really?

they removed a meaningless piece of writing from their constitution.
it had zero effect on the law
strange how federal trumps state law

Not the point: In the year 2000, 40% of voting Alabamans voted against removing a law that forbade whites and blacks from marrying one another.

Just pointing out how end of racism is still a loooooong way off.


Mississippi I outlawed slavery in 2013, on the second try

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mississippi-finally-ratifie s- slavery-ban-article-1.1267133
 
2014-08-20 09:33:39 PM  

grumpfuff: RedPhoenix122: Dinki: The only way this doesn't end in a mess is when the last unconstitutional law is overturned and same sex marriage is legal in all 50 states.

It'll still be a mess, it'll just be one that the right-wingers will have to live with.  Fark em.

I dunno, they've been pretty good at farking up women's access to abortion clinics. They'll figure out a way to fark with the homogheys too.


A five day waiting period, an ultrasound of what a peen in your butt looks like and hospital admitting privileges for each partner before gay sex can be had.
 
2014-08-20 09:34:56 PM  

Lsherm: Dinki: Lsherm: They expected this was going to happen.  On the radio last week they even interviewed the plaintiffs in the case who wanted it because it would avoid a mess down the line if marriages were declared valid and then null and void later.  They're just going to wait for the final decision.


Because if the wingnut god squad wins and the law is upheld, that will be the end of it? Does anyone actually believe that? The only way this doesn't end in a mess is when the last unconstitutional law is overturned and same sex marriage is legal in all 50 states.

No, but there's a process to get there, and if even the plaintiffs are willing to wait for it to finish, then there's no good reason to try and skip it like they did with Roe v. Wade.


What are you talking about? What was skipped? Roe V Wade ruled on the constitutionality of abortion, and found that it was constitutional. And therefore, abortion was legal in all 50 states.

Loving v Virginia found in favor of Loving, and ruled that it was constitutional for blacks to marry white. Making it legal for blacks to marry white in all 50 states.

Next year, something V something will be ruled on, and same-sex marriage will be legal in all 50 states.

What did they "skip" in roe v wade?
Did they skip an appeals court and go straight to SCOTUS?
That happens all the time in special cases. SCOTUS can hear any case at any time. 
SCOTUS decides. Period.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gideon_v._Wainwright 
went STRAIGHT to SCOTUS, no appeals at any level.
(great movie if you have never seen it ... well great because of what the case meant to America)
 
2014-08-20 09:35:06 PM  

Lemmon714: Disordered behaviour is still disordered behaviour.
Not really worth the fight anymore.
But tides do change.


Hey, conservatives can be a hateful, idiotic bunch but I'm not sure they qualify as "disordered".
 
2014-08-20 09:36:53 PM  
And in a shocking turn of events mid-2015

The Supreme Court overturns ALL marriages declaring them null and void.

Couples still desiring to take their relationships to a full legal partnership are encouraged to simply incorporate their households.
 
2014-08-20 09:37:39 PM  

HotWingAgenda: I really wish journalists would stop flip-flopping back and forth between VA as Virginia (correct) and VA as U.S. Dept. of Veterans Affairs (wrong).


Heh. I thought the same thing when I read the headline and was wondering when Veterans Affairs had turned gay.
 
2014-08-20 09:37:40 PM  

RedPhoenix122: grumpfuff: RedPhoenix122: Dinki: The only way this doesn't end in a mess is when the last unconstitutional law is overturned and same sex marriage is legal in all 50 states.

It'll still be a mess, it'll just be one that the right-wingers will have to live with.  Fark em.

I dunno, they've been pretty good at farking up women's access to abortion clinics. They'll figure out a way to fark with the homogheys too.

You're right, but luckily they're a dying breed.

/The republicans, that is.


If they win the Senate will you still say that with conviction?
 
2014-08-20 09:38:21 PM  

MurphyMurphy: And in a shocking turn of events mid-2015

The Supreme Court overturns ALL marriages declaring them null and void.

Couples still desiring to take their relationships to a full legal partnership are encouraged to simply incorporate their households.


Then they'll be REAL people!
 
2014-08-20 09:40:10 PM  
Walker: 40% voted against it in the year 2000? Really Alabama? Really?

40% of Americans believe in creationism. We're collectively barely above retarded.
 
2014-08-20 09:42:54 PM  
y'know, back when the Terry Sciaivo thing was going down, I amended my living will so that it would take Congressional action to pull the plug on me in the event of a persistent vegetative state. Now, I see the error of my ways: I need to have the Supreme Court have the final say. Better call my lawyer, Lionel Hutz, in the morning.
 
2014-08-20 09:43:21 PM  

Somacandra: namatad: they removed a meaningless piece of writing from their constitution.
it had zero effect on the law

Still kind of  disturbing that a AL State Rep would go on record as personally against interracial marriage, and actually treat the law like a slippery slope to same-sex marriage, even voting for the repeal.


It is pretty scary how backward people still are.
Then again, we have so much evidence every day.
 
2014-08-20 09:47:23 PM  
Seriously? In this day and age we actually have branches of government that enforce treating a class of Americans as second class citizens just because they are not kowtowing to some ancient old nasty man's collection of holy scrawls??
 
2014-08-20 09:49:48 PM  
www.funnytheworld.com
 
2014-08-20 09:49:54 PM  

firefly212: The thing that gets me, is that to issue the injunction, the court found a real danger of "irreparable harm" from letting the gays marry during the interceding period. I'd like someone to clearly articulate just what that irreparable harm might consist of.


That would be the irreparable conservative buttharm, which is a lot like butthurt, but it never goes away. Once a conservative suffers harm to their butt, they hold on to that buttharm like a cherished memory, letting the buttharm flow through them and over them, shaping them, defining them, giving their lives meaning. They band together in little conservative buttharm groups and share their conservative harmed butts with other conservatives who have suffered buttharm.
 
2014-08-20 09:54:00 PM  
With all the crap going on who cares. Nobody cares. All you want is the money. The divorce rate will be insane. Who cares. Get married.
 
2014-08-20 09:54:36 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: namatad: Walker: No way this was gonna be allowed to happen in this backwards state. They just started allowing blacks and whites to marry in 1967. We're still not as bad as Alabama. They didn't allow it until the year 2000.

 In 2000, Alabama became the last state to adapt its laws to the Supreme Court's decision, by removing a provision prohibiting mixed-race marriage from its state constitution through a ballot initiative. 60% of voters voted for the removal of the anti-miscegenation rule, and 40% against

40% voted against it in the year 2000? Really Alabama? Really?

they removed a meaningless piece of writing from their constitution.
it had zero effect on the law
strange how federal trumps state law

Not the point: In the year 2000, 40% of voting Alabamans voted against removing a law that forbade whites and blacks from marrying one another.

Just pointing out how end of racism is still a loooooong way off.


Racism in this country ended January 20, 2009.
 
2014-08-20 09:55:25 PM  

Walker: charlesmartel11235: We need more people in NOVA to outvote the hicks in the rest of this state

We already have so many people here that traffic doesn't move. If we get anymore, it will start to go backwards.

/wait, what?


Northern Virginia - At least, it's our *Traffic* that moves backwards here, not our *Social Attitudes*!
 
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