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(Guardian)   Amazon Kindle less absorbent than paper   (theguardian.com) divider line 19
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2014-08-20 07:52:12 PM  
Meh, 50 peeps, single short story. Call me back when you've got good data, 500 people broke down by age, sex, and fiction vs nonfiction.
 
2014-08-20 07:53:13 PM  
Anne Mangen of Norway's Stavanger University, a lead researcher on the study, thought academics might "find differences in the immersion facilitated by the device, in emotional responses" to the story. Her predictions were based on an earlier study comparing reading an upsetting short story on paper and on  ... But instead, the performance was largely similar, except when it came to the timing of events in the story. "The Kindle readers performed significantly worse on the plot reconstruction measure, ie, when they were asked to place 14 events in the correct order."

So the only measurable difference was the ability to place certain events along the right timeline in the story.  Boo farking hoo.
 
2014-08-20 08:21:17 PM  
And it's almost too smelly to use after just one wiping.
 
2014-08-20 09:15:14 PM  
Maybe it's because you can jump to Facebook with the push of a button.
Makes it easier to be .....what's the word I'm looking for?

Short attention span, that's it.
 
2014-08-20 09:17:03 PM  
I can't imagine reading one of those 700 page beastly literary novels on a kindle. Seems like one would give up much sooner.
 
2014-08-20 09:28:36 PM  

Catlenfell: Maybe it's because you can jump to Facebook with the push of a button.


kindle != kindle fire

but more importantly

The Elizabeth George study included only two experienced Kindle users

Sounds like only 2 of the 50 people knew how to use the damned kindle in the first place. They were probably spending more brainpower on the novelty of the thing than in actually reading. Like, if they had a paperwhite, how much time did they spend tweaking the brightness? I'm sure a few cycles were spent deciding between tapping and swiping to turn the page. Is it easier to hold in the left hand or the right hand?

// my reading retention on the kindle is probably better because I wouldn't even finish a damn paper book these days.
 
2014-08-20 09:35:50 PM  

charlesmartel11235: I can't imagine reading one of those 700 page beastly literary novels on a kindle. Seems like one would give up much sooner.


Only 700 pages?  Wuss.  Try the wheel of time combined into a single file.  Depending on the formatting it can be over 15,000 pages.  Sniff
 
2014-08-20 09:37:24 PM  

charlesmartel11235: I can't imagine reading one of those 700 page beastly literary novels on a kindle. Seems like one would give up much sooner.


I've read 4 of the Song of Ice & Fire books on my Kindle. Book length isn't really an issue, at least for me.

Catlenfell: Maybe it's because you can jump to Facebook with the push of a button.
Makes it easier to be .....what's the word I'm looking for?

Short attention span, that's it.


Depends on what kind of Kindle. The article doesn't seem to specify whether it was one of the dedicated ereader Kindles (like the Paperwhite) or one of the Kindle Fire tablets. The Fire, yeah, you can just jump over to Facebook or a game or whatever, but if it's the Paperwhite, it's all book. You CAN access the internet on a Paperwhite, but it's a chore.

I really wish the article was specific about whether it was a dedicated ereader or one of the Kindle tablets. It seems to imply that it was the ereader they used, but I can't find anything concrete. There's a huge difference in the reading experience, which a lot of people don't seem to get. Reading on an e-ink screen is an entirely different world from reading on an LCD screen. I can't bear to read books on my iPad, but I love reading on my Kindle Paperwhite.
 
2014-08-20 09:37:49 PM  

charlesmartel11235: I can't imagine reading one of those 700 page beastly literary novels on a kindle. Seems like one would give up much sooner.


It's actually easier, at least for me. I've become so used to e-reading, that paper books are now kind of a pain in the ass to read.
 
2014-08-20 09:41:32 PM  
E readers are the best thing ever for light reading and the library. And they free up shelf space for more cool "heirloom" physical books. They do suck for anything with illustrations however.
 
2014-08-20 10:11:50 PM  
Three tiers for adult reading:
Pleasure
Education
Reference

If you're pleasure reading, total absorption and comprehension isn't required. In fact, if you totally absorbed everything there would be no reread value. Which is why you borrow mysteries.

Education and reference, depends.
 
2014-08-20 10:32:59 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: charlesmartel11235: I can't imagine reading one of those 700 page beastly literary novels on a kindle. Seems like one would give up much sooner.

It's actually easier, at least for me. I've become so used to e-reading, that paper books are now kind of a pain in the ass to read.


I haven't read a paper book that wasn't for a class or training in four years.  If I'm reading in bed or at home for pleasure, I almost demand it be on the Kindle at this point.  I'll make exceptions for old hardcovers, books with graphical or art content, or difficult technical content that requires constant flipping back and forth.

I don't need paper to appreciate a Jack Reacher novel.
 
2014-08-20 10:45:32 PM  
To sum up the above comments (the ones that I agree with):

1) If you are a serious reader you want e-ink or paper.  A tablet/slate or phone will not cut it.
2) If you want to flip through a book or extensively take notes you want paper.
3) If you want to look at pretty pictures like in comic books you want paper or a tablet/slate.

My favorite of the Kindle lot (I've tried them all) is the $69.00 basic one because all I want to do with it is read novels for hours on end without worrying about putting my fat thumbs on a touch screen and figuring out what the heck I did and how to correct it.  Who decided that buttons were bad things?
 
2014-08-20 10:56:13 PM  
I'm not insanely fond of the tiny 6" displays that e-readers offer. I got a DX and my only complaint is "whispernet." It would be infinitely better if it just hooked up to wi-fi.
 
2014-08-20 11:13:37 PM  
I found the DX too big and heavy.  In the short time that I was using it I thought, "I guess free 3G is better than wifi, but I am fine with wi-fi."  To each his or her own I say ajgeek.  My sister insists that the way to read books is on her Android phone.  Whatever makes you happy sis.
 
2014-08-21 01:10:02 AM  
Alright, fine. Everyone is so dammed afraid of technology ruining their precious attention spans, so lets get rid of all these newfangled gizmos and go back to horse drawn carts and no electricity. Then we can read a book in the "proper order of events."
 
2014-08-21 01:40:57 AM  
I have been using e-readers since the first ones hit the market... Everything from the original Kindles to the Kobos, Sony Readers, and B&N Nooks of various generations. I currently have much love for my Kindle Paperwhite. I can read in low-light conditions, but it still looks like paper and doesn't glare like an LCD screen.

And yes, I call BS on this "study" which amounts to the "researcher" grabbing some friends at a party and asking them to do them a favor.
 
2014-08-21 06:04:57 AM  
Having witnessed my husband drop my Kindle into the Amstel River, I can assure you Kindles are more than absorbernt enough.
 
2014-08-21 10:48:30 AM  

charlesmartel11235: I can't imagine reading one of those 700 page beastly literary novels on a kindle. Seems like one would give up much sooner.


It's easier to read larger books actually.  As much as I prefer holding a paper book it's hard to walk and read with a 1,000 page+ book because they're awkward to hold up.
 
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