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2014-08-20 02:07:20 PM  
"Safety is small groups of like-minded people" - Linda Rondstadt


/did she write our new anti-man policy
//I keed!!!
///slashies
 
2014-08-20 02:25:44 PM  
I feel this way about most of the country.
 
2014-08-20 02:52:19 PM  
So someone wants to be around people who is just like them. News at 11.
 
2014-08-20 02:56:29 PM  
Most Christians are fine people and you wouldn't even know they are Christians.

Now six year olds are intolerant dicks, it is the parent's job to beat that out of them.
 
2014-08-20 02:57:44 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: "Safety is small groups of like-minded people" - Linda Rondstadt


Well, she did like Apartheid.
 
2014-08-20 03:07:49 PM  
You're going to find over-the-top militant christians in every society... yes, even in San Francisco
 
2014-08-20 03:19:45 PM  
www.maartenschild.com
Linda, my love - let's remember the 70's & forget everything afterwards.
 
2014-08-20 03:30:02 PM  
Well she has a point. I especially liked the "stop the car" story.

"And then one day, my son went to have a playdate with a little boy, about 8 years old, and he said, 'What church do you go to?' And we said, 'Well, we don't go to a church,' and he said, 'Well, you're gonna go to hell, then.' So I had to stop the car."

SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCH. GTFO.
 
2014-08-20 03:42:35 PM  
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ" - Ghandi
 
2014-08-20 04:08:38 PM  

Walker: Well she has a point. I especially liked the "stop the car" story.

"And then one day, my son went to have a playdate with a little boy, about 8 years old, and he said, 'What church do you go to?' And we said, 'Well, we don't go to a church,' and he said, 'Well, you're gonna go to hell, then.' So I had to stop the car."

SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCH. GTFO.


Not surprisingly, I had a similar experience briefly living in my hometown in Missouri (in a supposedly liberal area) in 2011.

My kids were taunted daily by their classmates when they found out we aren't religious. The adults in our neighborhood shunned our family when they found out we aren't religious. What church you go to is like the third thing you're asked when introduced. That never happpened when I was a kid there, it's become way worse over the years.

Where we live now, religious and political affiliations are your own damned business, which is awesome.

Good for Linda, I agree you can't be totally free from that crap in the USA, but it's less prevalent in some areas.
 
2014-08-20 04:10:03 PM  
I blame the Plow King
 
2014-08-20 04:17:23 PM  

Trance750: You're going to find over-the-top militant christians in every society... yes, even in San Francisco


We should encourage those people to all move to a desert somewhere and stay there.
 
2014-08-20 04:22:05 PM  

Weaver95: Trance750: You're going to find over-the-top militant christians in every society... yes, even in San Francisco

We should encourage those people to all move to a desert somewhere and stay there.


or let their Jesus come and 'rapture' them, and increase the global IQ
 
2014-08-20 04:34:00 PM  

Trance750: or let their Jesus come and 'rapture' them, and increase the global IQ


It really would be the best thing for everyone involved.  By which I mean everyone.
 
2014-08-20 04:36:24 PM  

oldfarthenry: [www.maartenschild.com image 259x274]
Linda, my love - let's remember the 70's & forget everything afterwards.


She was lovely.
 
2014-08-20 04:37:18 PM  

Diogenes: InterruptingQuirk: "Safety is small groups of like-minded people" - Linda Rondstadt

Well, she did like Apartheid.


Paul Simon & Co?
 
2014-08-20 04:43:14 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: Diogenes: InterruptingQuirk: "Safety is small groups of like-minded people" - Linda Rondstadt

Well, she did like Apartheid.

Paul Simon & Co?


Oh, I'm just stirring the pot ;-)

Linda's OK in my book.  Even her standards album with Nelson Riddle was enjoyable.
 
2014-08-20 04:43:16 PM  

Diogenes: InterruptingQuirk: "Safety is small groups of like-minded people" - Linda Rondstadt

Well, she did like Apartheid.


That's not really a fair assessment, is it? You'd have to apply the same to Ella Fitzgerald or any number of other performers on the list.

/Unless she spoke favorably of it or something like that.
 
2014-08-20 04:59:39 PM  
Good luck avoiding the majority of the country.
 
2014-08-20 05:01:09 PM  
Is it Christians - or Arizonans - she won't expose her children to?  (I hope she doesn't run into
Joe Arpaio, Jan Brewer - old shakey-fingers herself - or the guy who shot Gabby Giffords, whatever
his name was.)
 
2014-08-20 05:02:35 PM  
her April introduction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and her battle with Parkinson's disease.

A little early to induct, she's just start to rock and roll.
 
2014-08-20 05:03:53 PM  
East Tucson and the Catalina Foothills are full of Mormons and other assorted white, angry Christian types, but Tucson in general is way more tolerable than a lot of other places in Arizona. It's a pretty liberal town. I think Linda most likely lived in the posh parts of the Foothills, and nowhere near downtown. Just a guess.
 
2014-08-20 05:03:56 PM  
Why didn't she follow in the footsteps of that famed, sensitive environmentalist Edward Abbey and just move farther out into the desert. Then take a crap in the desert.

What an a-hole.

At least he got laid a lot by some very nimble young people. Which is probably why he was an environmentalist.
 
2014-08-20 05:04:30 PM  

dr_blasto: Diogenes: InterruptingQuirk: "Safety is small groups of like-minded people" - Linda Rondstadt

Well, she did like Apartheid.

That's not really a fair assessment, is it? You'd have to apply the same to Ella Fitzgerald or any number of other performers on the list.

/Unless she spoke favorably of it or something like that.


Why can't you people let me troll, unmolested?
 
2014-08-20 05:07:23 PM  
Lived in Tuscon--don't blame her in the least.

But you know how Tuscon feels about her decision:

img.fark.net
 
2014-08-20 05:11:26 PM  
I grew up in El Paso, Texas.  Thank God there were enough Hispanics and Asians and Jews around that this zealotry wasn't too present.  I got in some tiffs over evolution but no one could get away with blackballing you for not going to the right church.
 
2014-08-20 05:12:09 PM  

Lackofname: Good luck avoiding the majority of the country.


Is she talking about actual Christians or just blowhards claiming Christianity as a get out of jail free card for their hateful acts?

Cause one of those ain't the majority of the country.
 
2014-08-20 05:13:55 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: East Tucson and the Catalina Foothills are full of Mormons and other assorted white, angry Christian types, but Tucson in general is way more tolerable than a lot of other places in Arizona. It's a pretty liberal town. I think Linda most likely lived in the posh parts of the Foothills, and nowhere near downtown. Just a guess.


You're right. I live in Southeast Tucson, an it's really liberal. My issues with Tucson have more to do with it being an intellectual vacuum. Seriously, these are some of the dumbest people I've ever met in my life.
 
2014-08-20 05:21:47 PM  
Linda Ronstandt: Arizona is full of Christians assholes justifying their assholishness with a warped and selective interpretation of the Old Testament, and I don't want to expose my kids to that kind of people


FTFH
 
2014-08-20 05:22:59 PM  

Li'l Robbie: Is it Christians - or Arizonans - she won't expose her children to?


Nobody is actually from Arizona.  I lived there for a short while and I never met anyone who was born there.  I once met someone who said he was, but he finally admitted to being born in California.  Joe Arpaio was born in Massachusetts.  There might be a few Indians who were actually born in Arizona but they're Indians - you know like a mascot for a football team.

And can we mock subby for misspelling Linda Ronstadt's name?

And Linda - this whole farking country is full of Christians.  Would you rather live in a country full of Muslims?
 
2014-08-20 05:24:42 PM  

stoli n coke: Lackofname: Good luck avoiding the majority of the country.

Is she talking about actual Christians or just blowhards claiming Christianity as a get out of jail free card for their hateful acts?

Cause one of those ain't the majority of the country.


Far too many snarky arses on the internet don't differentiate the two.
 
2014-08-20 05:25:00 PM  

Diogenes: dr_blasto: Diogenes: InterruptingQuirk: "Safety is small groups of like-minded people" - Linda Rondstadt

Well, she did like Apartheid.

That's not really a fair assessment, is it? You'd have to apply the same to Ella Fitzgerald or any number of other performers on the list.

/Unless she spoke favorably of it or something like that.

Why can't you people let me troll, unmolested?


Because we CARE, Diogenes.
 
2014-08-20 05:28:57 PM  
What a poorly written article.
 
2014-08-20 05:29:14 PM  

ytterbium: Walker: Well she has a point. I especially liked the "stop the car" story.

"And then one day, my son went to have a playdate with a little boy, about 8 years old, and he said, 'What church do you go to?' And we said, 'Well, we don't go to a church,' and he said, 'Well, you're gonna go to hell, then.' So I had to stop the car."

SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCH. GTFO.

Not surprisingly, I had a similar experience briefly living in my hometown in Missouri (in a supposedly liberal area) in 2011.

My kids were taunted daily by their classmates when they found out we aren't religious. The adults in our neighborhood shunned our family when they found out we aren't religious. What church you go to is like the third thing you're asked when introduced. That never happpened when I was a kid there, it's become way worse over the years.

Where we live now, religious and political affiliations are your own damned business, which is awesome.

Good for Linda, I agree you can't be totally free from that crap in the USA, but it's less prevalent in some areas.


I got the same growing up far from Arizona. And before anyone sees that and says "redneck boys," this was in Bulletmore. And before anyone reads that and says "loudmouth black girls," it was both. Constantly. In school, on the sidewalk, throwing sticks at birds in someone's back yard... all the time.

Even worse I did go to church I just didn't join and never took it very seriously, which meant I was  still going to hell anyway.
 
2014-08-20 05:30:08 PM  

StrandedInAZ: ecmoRandomNumbers: East Tucson and the Catalina Foothills are full of Mormons and other assorted white, angry Christian types, but Tucson in general is way more tolerable than a lot of other places in Arizona. It's a pretty liberal town. I think Linda most likely lived in the posh parts of the Foothills, and nowhere near downtown. Just a guess.

You're right. I live in Southeast Tucson, an it's really liberal. My issues with Tucson have more to do with it being an intellectual vacuum. Seriously, these are some of the dumbest people I've ever met in my life.


I found the opposite to be true. I went to UofA and most of the Tucsonans I met were smart hippie-types and retired academics and intellectuals.
 
2014-08-20 05:31:52 PM  
this is weird because her family are like the city father's, the Bus Depot's named after them...her brother was Tucson's Chief Of Police

StrandedinAZ My issues with Tucson have more to do with it being an intellectual vacuum. Seriously, these are some of the dumbest people I've ever met in my life.

nice generalization, now go get me an eegee's

from TFA "They didn't seem to realize that Tucson in the old days had a distinctive architecture."  http://touchwind.blogspot.com/2008/04/final-days-of-magic-carpet-golf . html
http://parentseyes.arizona.edu/ronstadtfamily/
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/04/02/louis_taylor_relea se d_pioneer_hotel_fire_killed_29_the_man_convicted_of.html
http://www.tucsonweekly.com/tucson/why-linda-ronstadt-still-matters- to -tucson/Content?oid=3872523
 
2014-08-20 05:33:26 PM  
So, it's okay for a celebrity to publicly bash a group of people but we can't do that on Fark, got it...
 
2014-08-20 05:33:33 PM  
I occasionally use the term "that's gay" to refer to many many wonderfully gay things.

like just a few minutes ago, two other employees were in the front office, both picking up delivered packages (i assume they are hiding their purchases from the SO at home) and one says to the other "your package is bigger than mine."

what the hell else could i say!?
 
2014-08-20 05:34:11 PM  
Christians? I don't think you know the terminology.

Sure they SAY they're Christians, but in reality what you're looking at are "evangelicals". These folks don't use Jesus as an answer but as an excuse to be offensive to people and act as some sort of moral majority despite being any of those things. If you see a sign saying you're going to hell, odds are that's an evangelical on the other end of that sign.

They ain't the only ones trying to pass themselves off as Christians. The aforementioned Fundamentalists (Fundies if you're nasty) use Jesus to enforce a masochistic social agenda because deities like Buddha, Amaterasu, or Bob Dobbs aren't mainstream enough. They're the flaccid cowards trying to censor our televisions, get science out of our schools, and make us believe that gay marriage and abortion are the only real topics we should be addressing as a nation. Anyone who uses Big Jesus as an an excuse to have government legislate morality, those are Fundies.

Arizona? It's an Evangelical and Fundamental breeding ground that considers itself a buckle in the Bible Belt. It's a leftover from the televangelist eras of Swaggart, Baker, and Orel. And they're not a new thing. The Jews had similar groups around when Jesus was walking around. They were called Pharisees and Saducees. Sure, they worshipped God, but they also worshipped themselves and the laws they had created and set themselves up over the unworthy, and Jesus wasted no time in pointing that out. Then what happened? He got handed over to the Romans to be crucified because he "didn't follow the rules."

So what I'm saying, Linda, is that you might want to get the hell out of the region before they start getting the crosses ready.
 
2014-08-20 05:34:52 PM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: which meant I was  still going to hell anyway.


I'll see you there.
 
2014-08-20 05:44:38 PM  
Emmylou Harris, Bonnie Raitt, Sheryl Crow, Stevie Nicks and Carrie Underwood pay tribute to Linda at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony (2014)
 
2014-08-20 05:44:49 PM  

EvilEgg: Most Christians are fine people and you wouldn't even know they are Christians.

Now six year olds are intolerant dicks, it is the parent's job to beat that out of them.


No, the six year old was parroting what he had been taught at home.  This comes up a lot--what usually happend next is that the other kid's family schedules the next playdate at a "water park" which turns out to be a baptism.
 
2014-08-20 05:48:39 PM  

zulius: So, it's okay for a celebrity to publicly bash a group of people but we can't do that on Fark, got it...


You do realize that people bashing on other people, be it insults, violence, war... is what makes NEWS, right?
 
2014-08-20 05:49:04 PM  

gfid: Li'l Robbie: Is it Christians - or Arizonans - she won't expose her children to? ...

And can we mock subby for misspelling Linda Ronstadt's name?


yeah, one would think he'd double-check before hitting Submit.

And Linda - this whole farking country is full of Christians.  Would you rather live in a country full of Muslims?

Sure, plenty of Christians but what many of us object to is having it shoved down our gullets.  No one needs to be telling anyone else that they "will be going to hell"

It is perfectly within her rights to object to such things.  Why do you hate our freedoms?
 
2014-08-20 05:49:48 PM  

Opiate of the Lasses: Linda Ronstandt: Arizona is full of Christians assholes justifying their assholishness with a warped and selective interpretation of the Old Testament, and I don't want to expose my kids to that kind of people


FTFH


Thank you!
 
2014-08-20 05:54:57 PM  

rjakobi: Christians? I don't think you know the terminology.

Sure they SAY they're Christians, but in reality what you're looking at are "evangelicals". These folks don't use Jesus as an answer but as an excuse to be offensive to people and act as some sort of moral majority despite being any of those things. If you see a sign saying you're going to hell, odds are that's an evangelical on the other end of that sign.

They ain't the only ones trying to pass themselves off as Christians. The aforementioned Fundamentalists (Fundies if you're nasty) use Jesus to enforce a masochistic social agenda because deities like Buddha, Amaterasu, or Bob Dobbs aren't mainstream enough. They're the flaccid cowards trying to censor our televisions, get science out of our schools, and make us believe that gay marriage and abortion are the only real topics we should be addressing as a nation. Anyone who uses Big Jesus as an an excuse to have government legislate morality, those are Fundies.

Arizona? It's an Evangelical and Fundamental breeding ground that considers itself a buckle in the Bible Belt. It's a leftover from the televangelist eras of Swaggart, Baker, and Orel. And they're not a new thing. The Jews had similar groups around when Jesus was walking around. They were called Pharisees and Saducees. Sure, they worshipped God, but they also worshipped themselves and the laws they had created and set themselves up over the unworthy, and Jesus wasted no time in pointing that out. Then what happened? He got handed over to the Romans to be crucified because he "didn't follow the rules."

So what I'm saying, Linda, is that you might want to get the hell out of the region before they start getting the crosses ready.


One True Scotsman?
 
2014-08-20 05:55:38 PM  

gfid: And Linda - this whole farking country is full of Christians. Would you rather live in a country full of Muslims?


It's awfully hard to tell the difference.  Which are the ones who insist on the schools teaching young Earth creationism as science, again?
 
2014-08-20 05:56:41 PM  
I've never lived full-time in AZ, but I have spent enough time there and have observed enough longtime residents there to form an opinion.

My opinion: there is some sort of environmental factor there that is making them bug-nuts crazy.

I am not kidding. Seriously, not kidding.
 
2014-08-20 06:06:00 PM  

flondrix: EvilEgg: Most Christians are fine people and you wouldn't even know they are Christians.

Now six year olds are intolerant dicks, it is the parent's job to beat that out of them.

No, the six year old was parroting what he had been taught at home.  This comes up a lot--what usually happend next is that the other kid's family schedules the next playdate at a "water park" which turns out to be a baptism.


Now that I think about it, a sleepover I had when I was a kid ended up with me going to church with the family the next day, where I got baptized.

Sneaky mutherf'ers.
 
2014-08-20 06:10:28 PM  
Good for her.
 
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