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(CNN)   Sometimes you have to ask yourself: is visiting my healthcare provider worse than having Ebola?   (cnn.com) divider line 47
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2014-08-20 03:49:20 PM  
If it's Kaiser?
 
2014-08-20 04:31:01 PM  
Is it real Ebola this time or just the runs?
 
2014-08-20 04:34:51 PM  
Sometimes you have to ask yourself: Why hasn't Drew told us about the creepy CNN logo yet.


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2014-08-20 04:36:39 PM  
Yes.

With Ebola you'll probably die and be done with it within a week.  There's a small chance you'll actually survive too.
 
2014-08-20 04:37:39 PM  
If you have to ask that question, you're too stupid to live anyway.
 
2014-08-20 04:38:50 PM  
I'd be afraid to go to the hospital these days...everything is "You got Ebola"
 
2014-08-20 04:40:58 PM  

FloridaFarkTag: I'd be afraid to go to the hospital these days...everything is "You got Ebola"


I thought it was lupus?
 
2014-08-20 04:41:19 PM  
Wait till some mad scientist crosses Ebola with Lupus.  That's when the fun will start
 
2014-08-20 04:41:26 PM  
everybody panic!!!!
 
2014-08-20 04:41:33 PM  
Did I miss a joke, why's the CNN logo lookin' all weird?
 
2014-08-20 04:41:59 PM  
The good news is I'll be dead from Ebola before I have to pay my insurance deductible!
 
2014-08-20 04:43:21 PM  

FloridaFarkTag: I'd be afraid to go to the hospital these days...everything is "You got Ebola"


It'd be more fun of we started using a definite article in front of it and made it plural.

"Son, you got the Ebolas."
 
2014-08-20 04:43:46 PM  

ChipNASA: Sometimes you have to ask yourself: Why hasn't Drew told us about the creepy CNN logo yet.


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//Apologies man.
//If this is a no no, I'll take my lumps
 
2014-08-20 04:44:06 PM  
If I get Ebola, you'll find me out in the woods, behind the house, feeding the birds...

...by default.
 
2014-08-20 04:44:31 PM  

ChipNASA: Sometimes you have to ask yourself: Why hasn't Drew told us about the creepy CNN logo yet.


Every time I see an article with that creepy logo, I hear the X-Files theme in my head...
 
2014-08-20 04:46:48 PM  

ChipNASA: Sometimes you have to ask yourself: Why hasn't Drew told us about the creepy CNN logo yet.


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Inquiring minds want to know!
 
2014-08-20 04:47:35 PM  
God? Are you listening? I know we don't talk much because I don't believe you are real, but when I prayed to you the other day and asked you to end it all, I meant just kill me. How you manage to be such a jerk I'll never understand.

/even my imaginary friends are dicks
 
2014-08-20 04:47:35 PM  
"The patient is in a negative pressure room"...Damn! I need on of those.
 
2014-08-20 04:48:52 PM  

Obbi: Did I miss a joke, why's the CNN logo lookin' all weird?


Weird, how. Like it is amateurish, or just completely inaccurate?
 
2014-08-20 04:50:14 PM  

Schmerd1948: "The patient is in a negative pressure room"...Damn! I need on of those.


I think it probably just passively tries to encourage you to do drugs behind the bus barn or to shoplift cigarettes or something.
 
2014-08-20 04:50:30 PM  

strathmeyer: Obbi: Did I miss a joke, why's the CNN logo lookin' all weird?

Weird, how. Like it is amateurish, or just completely inaccurate?


Like this

img1.fark.net

And not
fontmeme.com
 
2014-08-20 04:51:51 PM  

cgraves67: FloridaFarkTag: I'd be afraid to go to the hospital these days...everything is "You got Ebola"

It'd be more fun of we started using a definite article in front of it and made it plural.

"Son, you got the Ebolas."


Double Secret Ebolas...
 
2014-08-20 04:58:18 PM  

FloridaFarkTag: cgraves67: FloridaFarkTag: I'd be afraid to go to the hospital these days...everything is "You got Ebola"

It'd be more fun of we started using a definite article in front of it and made it plural.

"Son, you got the Ebolas."

Double Secret Ebolas...


How many Ebolas are there?

Nobody knows. IT'S A SECRET.
 
2014-08-20 05:06:55 PM  

FloridaFarkTag: I'd be afraid to go to the hospital these days...everything is "You got Ebola"


It's amazing - just a few months ago it was the "superbug" - the infection that antibiotics can't touch.

I remember the '80s.  Back then I actually thought AIDS was going to be a much bigger pandemic than it has turned out to be.  Not that it's not bad, but I thought everyone would eventually have sex with everyone else back then.

Here's the worst AIDS joke I ever heard.

What's the worst thing about having AIDS?
Trying to explain to your parents that you're Haitian.
 
2014-08-20 05:12:48 PM  

haemaker: If it's Kaiser?


Actually my wife's horror stories of Kaiser Permanente is the reason I submitted this with that headline.

I'm glad to know it isn't just my wife's prejudice.
 
2014-08-20 05:16:13 PM  

haemaker: If it's Kaiser?


Man, I wish I had Kaiser. Heck, I wish I even knew what actually going to my healthcare provider was like.

CSB: (names have been changed, but otherwise true story)

I have a HMO. My HMO assigns me a PCP, who I have to go to for anything not certain to kill me within the next 24 hours.

I have some troubling symptoms. I go to make an appointment. The PCP is booked for the next 6 weeks. OK, I say, well maybe this will go away before then. Book it.

Oh, says the receptionist. You're a new patient. We only take first-time patients on Thursday afternoons. And the next new patient appointment is... 10 weeks out. OK, I say, book it.

Weeks pass. I get a call. Dr. Smith is leaving on maternity, but her patients are automatically being switched to Dr. Jones in the same practice. However, the next new patient appointment for Dr. Jones is 7 weeks out. OK, I sob. Book it.

Weeks pass. I get a letter from the HMO informing me that Dr. Jones has left the physician's group. I've been assigned a new PCP, Dr. Johnson, at a different practice. I call Dr. Johnson's office. Dr. Johnson is not accepting new patients. No, it doesn't matter that the HMO assigned me there.

I call around. Nobody is accepting new patients. After almost three weeks of calling around, I finally find a doctor, Dr. Rogers, who is accepting new patients. However, they can't book an appointment until they're officially my PCP. Today is the third of the month. PCP changes only happen on the 1st of the month.

I fill out the forms and wait. On the 1st of the next month, I call Dr. Rogers's office. Dr. Rogers is no longer accepting new patients.

I call around again. By some miracle, I find a doctor, Dr. Thompson, who is accepting new patients, and because it's the 1st of the month I can change my PCP that very day. I do so, and successfully book Dr. Thompson for his next available new patient appointment, six weeks out.

Assuming Dr. Thompson does not reschedule, retire, or get hit by a bus, it will be over six months since I started trying to get an appointment before I see a doctor. Fortunately, my symptoms haven't significantly worsened, but they haven't gone away, either.

This story is completely true, except for one detail. I actually gave up after Dr. Rogers. There is no Dr. Thompson, and I don't have an appointment scheduled. I'm an educated, high income, and theoretically well-insured white guy and my health care strategy has devolved into hoping whatever this is will go away on its own. Or it will progress enough to require hospitalization and I'll get treated that way. Otherwise, I'm holding out until the end of the year when I can switch to Kaiser and actually have a shot at seeing someone.

HMOs suck. Same plan won't let my son see a nationally-recognized specialist 50 miles away and want him to go to a poorly-ranked place that stopped specializing in that particular field years ago, over 100 miles away. We booked that appointment in March. He goes on September 9. Provided he doesn't get rescheduled. At least his condition isn't life-threatening.

Hopefully mine isn't either.
 
2014-08-20 05:17:46 PM  

cgraves67: FloridaFarkTag: I'd be afraid to go to the hospital these days...everything is "You got Ebola"

It'd be more fun of we started using a definite article in front of it and made it plural.

"Son, you got the Ebolas."


Read that in Walter Brimleys voice in my head. If you got the Ebolas, and are on Medicare....
 
2014-08-20 05:33:12 PM  
What the fark is up with the CNN logo?

I'll just call misandry to be safe, and hope the Mods don't ban it, because misandry is legit.

Damn Cis White Males.
 
2014-08-20 05:44:00 PM  

Jclark666: haemaker: If it's Kaiser?

Man, I wish I had Kaiser. Heck, I wish I even knew what actually going to my healthcare provider was like.

CSB


Hell yes. Every time I get kind of annoyed at some of Kaiser's more impersonal practices, I just have to remember that I:
-Can always get an appointment the day I ask for it, even if I have to use a different doctor
-Can walk right downstairs/next door to the pharmacy, usually getting meds same-day
-Get any labwork/x-rays/other diagnostic stuff done on-site and same-day and generally for free

KP's great in most ways that matter.

(I will admit that I've had KP since I was a wee lad and that I've never actually been able to figure out HOW to use any other medical provider the few times I've had an employer that didn't provide Kaiser.)
 
2014-08-20 05:56:19 PM  

Jclark666: haemaker: If it's Kaiser?

Man, I wish I had Kaiser. Heck, I wish I even knew what actually going to my healthcare provider was like.

CSB: (names have been changed, but otherwise true story)

I have a HMO. My HMO assigns me a PCP, who I have to go to for anything not certain to kill me within the next 24 hours.

I have some troubling symptoms. I go to make an appointment. The PCP is booked for the next 6 weeks. OK, I say, well maybe this will go away before then. Book it.

Oh, says the receptionist. You're a new patient. We only take first-time patients on Thursday afternoons. And the next new patient appointment is... 10 weeks out. OK, I say, book it.

Weeks pass. I get a call. Dr. Smith is leaving on maternity, but her patients are automatically being switched to Dr. Jones in the same practice. However, the next new patient appointment for Dr. Jones is 7 weeks out. OK, I sob. Book it.

Weeks pass. I get a letter from the HMO informing me that Dr. Jones has left the physician's group. I've been assigned a new PCP, Dr. Johnson, at a different practice. I call Dr. Johnson's office. Dr. Johnson is not accepting new patients. No, it doesn't matter that the HMO assigned me there.

I call around. Nobody is accepting new patients. After almost three weeks of calling around, I finally find a doctor, Dr. Rogers, who is accepting new patients. However, they can't book an appointment until they're officially my PCP. Today is the third of the month. PCP changes only happen on the 1st of the month.

I fill out the forms and wait. On the 1st of the next month, I call Dr. Rogers's office. Dr. Rogers is no longer accepting new patients.

I call around again. By some miracle, I find a doctor, Dr. Thompson, who is accepting new patients, and because it's the 1st of the month I can change my PCP that very day. I do so, and successfully book Dr. Thompson for his next available new patient appointment, six weeks out.

Assuming Dr. Thompson does not resche ...


Assuming you can't switch to PPO for financial reasons or your company doesn't offer it, call the ombudsman for the insurance company.  Usually they have a lot of clout to fix things because calling them is the last step before calling a lawyer, and they, like you, really would prefer not to go there.

If they don't have one, you might have to lawyer up.
 
2014-08-20 05:58:37 PM  

gfid: Yes.

With Ebola you'll probably die and be done with it within a week.  There's a small chance you'll actually survive too.


Actually, there's a reasonably good chance you'll live.  It's what, 50-50, and that's in Africa, not exactly a bastion of high quality healthcare services.

farkin_Gary: If I get Ebola, you'll find me out in the woods, behind the house, feeding the birds...

...by default.


Congratulations, you just upped the chances that Ebola will spread to local wildlife and become endemic in the US.
 
2014-08-20 05:58:51 PM  

Jclark666: haemaker: If it's Kaiser?

Man, I wish I had Kaiser. Heck, I wish I even knew what actually going to my healthcare provider was like.

CSB: (names have been changed, but otherwise true story)

I have a HMO. My HMO assigns me a PCP, who I have to go to for anything not certain to kill me within the next 24 hours.

I have some troubling symptoms. I go to make an appointment. The PCP is booked for the next 6 weeks. OK, I say, well maybe this will go away before then. Book it.

Oh, says the receptionist. You're a new patient. We only take first-time patients on Thursday afternoons. And the next new patient appointment is... 10 weeks out. OK, I say, book it.

Weeks pass. I get a call. Dr. Smith is leaving on maternity, but her patients are automatically being switched to Dr. Jones in the same practice. However, the next new patient appointment for Dr. Jones is 7 weeks out. OK, I sob. Book it.

Weeks pass. I get a letter from the HMO informing me that Dr. Jones has left the physician's group. I've been assigned a new PCP, Dr. Johnson, at a different practice. I call Dr. Johnson's office. Dr. Johnson is not accepting new patients. No, it doesn't matter that the HMO assigned me there.

I call around. Nobody is accepting new patients. After almost three weeks of calling around, I finally find a doctor, Dr. Rogers, who is accepting new patients. However, they can't book an appointment until they're officially my PCP. Today is the third of the month. PCP changes only happen on the 1st of the month.

I fill out the forms and wait. On the 1st of the next month, I call Dr. Rogers's office. Dr. Rogers is no longer accepting new patients.

I call around again. By some miracle, I find a doctor, Dr. Thompson, who is accepting new patients, and because it's the 1st of the month I can change my PCP that very day. I do so, and successfully book Dr. Thompson for his next available new patient appointment, six weeks out.

Assuming Dr. Thompson does not reschedule, retire, or get hit by a bus, it will be over six months since I started trying to get an appointment before I see a doctor. Fortunately, my symptoms haven't significantly worsened, but they haven't gone away, either.


6 months you say? At least you know it isn't the Ebolas...

You made me laugh, but in pain. Kaiser isn't what it used to be and has some of the same run around, but nothing as bad as that and the time frames are a bit shorter. Still, most people's health care/insurance sucks these day...
I tell my wife not to slightly injure herself, but break a bone or cut something off when she does so we max the OOP right off the bat and get immediate treatment. Same with illnesses, don't get sick and linger, get better or die; none of this half arsed stuff. We can't afford it! Funny how some people will tell you (with a straight face) the medical system in this country doesn't need a major overhaul.

Hope you feel better Bud.

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2014-08-20 06:01:38 PM  
 
2014-08-20 06:02:01 PM  

JayCab: Jclark666: haemaker: If it's Kaiser?

Man, I wish I had Kaiser. Heck, I wish I even knew what actually going to my healthcare provider was like.

CSB

Hell yes. Every time I get kind of annoyed at some of Kaiser's more impersonal practices, I just have to remember that I:
-Can always get an appointment the day I ask for it, even if I have to use a different doctor
-Can walk right downstairs/next door to the pharmacy, usually getting meds same-day
-Get any labwork/x-rays/other diagnostic stuff done on-site and same-day and generally for free

KP's great in most ways that matter.

(I will admit that I've had KP since I was a wee lad and that I've never actually been able to figure out HOW to use any other medical provider the few times I've had an employer that didn't provide Kaiser.)


There are lot of bad Kaisers.  The system is sound, when it works.  When you get the 1st year resident from Grenada (true story), it can be bad.

As far as using PPO, it works better in a metro area with a well respected university.  For me, it's Stanford or UCSF.   They usually do everything and use the very latest techniques.  Downside is the endoscopy with 20 students watching.

You can literally go anywhere in the US for treatment.  Ceders-Sinai, Johns-Hopkins, Mayo Clinic...all those places you hear famous people going, you can go, and pay 20% of the bill.
 
2014-08-20 06:08:44 PM  
LrdPhoenix:

Congratulations, you just upped the chances that Ebola will spread to local wildlife and become endemic in the US.


I was taught to share.
 
2014-08-20 06:12:06 PM  

Jclark666: haemaker: If it's Kaiser?

Man, I wish I had Kaiser. Heck, I wish I even knew what actually going to my healthcare provider was like.

CSB: (names have been changed, but otherwise true story)

I have a HMO. My HMO assigns me a PCP, who I have to go to for anything not certain to kill me within the next 24 hours.


skiffleboom.files.wordpress.com

I hate it when that happens. Broke every bone in my hand and couldn't feel it for hours.
 
2014-08-20 06:12:12 PM  

FloridaFarkTag: cgraves67: FloridaFarkTag: I'd be afraid to go to the hospital these days...everything is "You got Ebola"

It'd be more fun of we started using a definite article in front of it and made it plural.

"Son, you got the Ebolas."


Double Secret Ebolas...


Muslim Ebolas!
 
2014-08-20 06:13:42 PM  

Meesterjojo: What the fark is up with the CNN logo?

I'll just call misandry to be safe, and hope the Mods don't ban it, because misandry is legit.

Damn Cis White Males.


Just to be safe I'm no longer going to refer to myself as white.  Somewhere in my ancestory is some Frenchy Canuck injun in there somewhere.  That'll protect me from my privilage
 
2014-08-20 06:27:57 PM  

haemaker:

Assuming you can't switch to PPO for financial reasons or your company doesn't offer it, call the ombudsman for the insurance company. Usually they have a lot of clout to fix things because calling them is the last step before calling a lawyer, and they, like you, really would prefer not to go there.

If they don't have one, you might have to lawyer up.


The PPO has the same provider list, so I'd have the same not-accepting-new-patients problem to some extent. There's an overall provider shortage where I live, so that's a significant part of the problem, the HMO just adds enough bureaucracy on top to make actually getting a doctor when you don't already have one next to impossible.

For my son, we actually went to the omsbudsman after our initial request for a referral was denied outright, which is how we got redirected to the place 100 miles away. His regular physician is great, and he has some long-term issues that make the PPO a poor fit, so he'll probably stay on my wife's HMO while I switch over to Kaiser on my own.
 
2014-08-20 07:03:24 PM  
i guess this needs updating
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2014-08-20 07:43:58 PM  
img1.fark.net

Does anyone else think this tag image is blurry, badly coloured, and just farking stupid?

I'm talking Geocities-quality, here.
 
2014-08-20 08:00:33 PM  

gfid: Yes.

With Ebola you'll probably die and be done with it within a week.  There's a small chance you'll actually survive too.


No, I'd take the worst possible visit to my doctor--even my gynecologist when she wants to do a Pap AND a pelvic on the same day--over getting Ebola. I just don't like that 40% chance of death with Ebola, and I haven't yet died from a pelvic exam.
 
2014-08-20 08:05:43 PM  

gerbilpox: Sometimes.

http://www.abc3340.com/story/26105013/birmingham-man-says-penis-mist ak enly-amputated-during-circumcision-operation-files-lawsuit

http://www.beatking.com/forums/topic/26297-doctor-removes-mans-penis -i n-fit-of-rage/ 

http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2012/09/11/kentucky-man-sues-doctor-fo r- amputating-his-penis/


I'm not gonna say you're obsessed with penis amputation. However I've got the number for a nice therapist if you like...
 
2014-08-20 08:20:56 PM  

weltallica: [img1.fark.net image 77x27]

Does anyone else think this tag image is blurry, badly coloured, and just farking stupid?

I'm talking Geocities-quality, here.


I can't see it over your obnoxiously giant writing.
 
2014-08-20 09:57:48 PM  

Gyrfalcon: gfid: Yes.

With Ebola you'll probably die and be done with it within a week.  There's a small chance you'll actually survive too.

No, I'd take the worst possible visit to my doctor--even my gynecologist when she wants to do a Pap AND a pelvic on the same day--over getting Ebola. I just don't like that 40% chance of death with Ebola, and I haven't yet died from a pelvic exam.


Yeah, you haven't died YET.  Give it time
 
2014-08-21 02:58:55 AM  
Uh... Ebola would be my last worry while visiting Kaiser Bruceville.  If you're lucky enough to find a place to park, you're going to get accosted/mugged/assaulted walking into the hospital.

Once inside, you're in the company of South Sacramento's finest....and the who's who of public assistance and/or mental illness and/or drug addiction....

If you're lucky to bathe yourself in hand sanitizer once leaving, you're lucky to get away without some form of bird flu/herps/SARS from all of the furiners who frequent the place.

My wife used to have to go to that shiathole while she was a student at UC Davis.  Out of any Kaiser facility, including Oakland, this is the closest you'll see to an inner-city emergency room.

/not surprised when I read the news
//KP still blows
///Especially the (CARRIER LOST) with the whiny voice that does all the voiceovers for their radio commercials
 
2014-08-21 12:14:00 PM  
FBI: 6,400 deaths by hand gun 2012
NPR: That's nothing .. 440,000 deaths by medical mistakes
 
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