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(Orlando Sentinel)   Residents successfully oppose construction of mosque in their neighborhood because "praying and chanting five times a day would be a violation of the noise ordinance"   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 173
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2014-08-20 11:49:02 AM
Fark is always fascinating. If only the muslims had been christians, the entire nature of the posts would be reversed.
 
2014-08-20 11:49:07 AM

Deucednuisance: mschwenk: liam76: Bendal: There have been several lawsuits aimed at them to cut down the noise, and every single time the churches claim it is part of their belief system to distribute the sermons to the broadest possible audience, and so far the courts have refused to stop them from doing it.

If I won the lottery I would move there just to blast death metal at the same volume whenever they tried to do anything quiet.

Good suggestion for the neighborhood. If they have the right to broadcast service at 7 am you have the right to broadcast music at them.

Might I suggest directional speakers similar to LRAD? Definately something you can build.

I just pull my PA out of the basement and aim the speakers at the offending AME Zion "Temple" megachurch that's a few hundred yards away from my house when they have their ridiculously loud outdoor events in the summer.   I prefer to program heavily from my Zappa collection.

They are shiatty neighbors, but all the lying, parking in people's private driveways, violations of land use rules, etc. are all good, because they are doing the Lord's Work.

Fark you.  You guys are just the Worst.



I like the cut of your jib.
 
2014-08-20 11:49:07 AM

karnal: Clemkadidlefark: Islam is not a religion. It is a violent theocracy.

Like Democrats

Progressive Liberal Democrats and Muslims believe in very similar Ideology


Lulz.  The projection is blinding.
 
2014-08-20 11:50:18 AM

naughtyrev: I've lived across the street from a mosque for about 5 years. Not once have I ever had a concern about noise - never hear a peep from them. What I do have, however, is lots of peaceful people going to and from their place of worship throughout the day which has a nice effect of having lots of eyes on the neighborhood to keep crime down in an area that has lots of burglaries elsewhere.


Your positive spin is... positive.

But if you lived in a neighborhood that you liked exactly the way it is, would it matte if it were a Mosque or a Walmart they wanted to build?

You might just protest at the public meeting just as hard equally.
 
2014-08-20 11:51:05 AM

BitwiseShift: Perhaps they now get down to banning Arabic words and what they represent like alcohol and algebra, which are also too noisy, make traffic hell, and aren't good for children.


These are people who don't recognize each other at the liquor store and think book larnin' comes from the Devil.
 
2014-08-20 11:55:18 AM

karnal: Clemkadidlefark: Islam is not a religion. It is a violent theocracy.

Like Democrats

Progressive Liberal Democrats and Muslims believe in very similar Ideology


Oh lookee here.  It's tweedleherp and tweedlederp.

i818.photobucket.com
 
2014-08-20 11:55:51 AM

Stile4aly: liam76: LazyMedia: In Muslim countries, they do that PA-amplified call to prayer because everybody around is a Muslim, and they use it as a way to mark what time prayers are scheduled. In multicultural places, people have wristwatches and the Internet to keep track of that

So people in Idnonesia and Egyp don't have watches, got it.

Is this place not multicultural?


brimed03: So another community of scared, misinformed white people outs itself? Hmph.

Another misinformed farker tripping overhismelf to call white people racist.

That mosque in Michigan is the exception, not the rule.  I was a practicing Muslim for nearly 30 years and had the opportunity to pray at numerous mosques.  I have yet to encounter one in the US that broadcasts its Adhan over a loudspeaker as is done in some Middle Eastern countries..  The one you reference in the article is literally the first one I've encountered.  In most cases, the imam stands at the door and recites the Adhan.  If you're 50 feet away, you can't hear it.


Like Dearborn, Hamtramck is basically a suburb of Baghdad, so that probably has something to do with it. The people who raised a big fuss about them broadcasting were mostly Free Republic readers from other states.
 
2014-08-20 11:57:05 AM

Diogenes: karnal: Clemkadidlefark: Islam is not a religion. It is a violent theocracy.

Like Democrats

Progressive Liberal Democrats and Muslims believe in very similar Ideology

Lulz.  The projection is blinding.


Here's a little blinding light for you:

Several months ago every single Democrat in Florida voted to force Sharia Law on the people of Florida.  Democrats voted to force this on American citizens. If they had the necessary numbers in the Florida legislature, Sharia Law would be used in Florida courts.

Remember that when it is time to vote.
 
2014-08-20 11:58:05 AM

Headso: you're the only one claiming there's going to be a blaring call to prayer waking people up at 530, everyone else is citing traffic congestion like Muslims are actually going to be there enmasse 5 times a day 7 days a week because bigots can't fathom that Muslims in America are as devout as your typical Christian or Jew and will only be there once a week.


No, I am the one calling you out for not being able to see that the same zoning issues are faced by other houses of worship, and that there are differences between churches and mosques.

Stile4aly: That mosque in Michigan is the exception, not the rule.


Yeah, there were other mosques in the article that did and were called out.


Stile4aly: In most cases, the imam stands at the door and recites the Adhan. If you're 50 feet away, you can't hear it


If that was there plan I am sure they would be forthecoming wiht that bit of info to calm people down, absent that I woudln't want it in my neighborhood.

If a catholic church was coming and planning on building a bell tower (as this mosque had plane for aminaret) woudl you assume theyw oudl never rign the bells?
 
2014-08-20 12:01:23 PM

doubled99: Fark is always fascinating. If only the muslims had been christians, the entire nature of the posts would be reversed.


No, I woudl still be arguing they shoudln't get special expemtion for a house of worship, and saying that the call to prayers is more annoying than church bells.


/shorter, I know what time it is, and they don't start as early.
 
2014-08-20 12:01:52 PM

karnal: Diogenes: karnal: Clemkadidlefark: Islam is not a religion. It is a violent theocracy.

Like Democrats

Progressive Liberal Democrats and Muslims believe in very similar Ideology

Lulz.  The projection is blinding.

Here's a little blinding light for you:

Several months ago every single Democrat in Florida voted to force Sharia Law on the people of Florida.  Democrats voted to force this on American citizens. If they had the necessary numbers in the Florida legislature, Sharia Law would be used in Florida courts.

Remember that when it is time to vote.


Hurrah! It's somebody's angry uncle, in full-on email chain-letter rant mode! Sweet. Tell us some other things you "learned" from the Blaze, Gateway Pundit and Free Republic.
 
2014-08-20 12:02:08 PM

yves0010: In these cases, I think what is there first should have to be respected. Example is if a church wants to build in a residential area. Then the church needs to respect the residents of that area and their wishes when it comes to noise and traffic. And the same goes if the church is there and a neighborhood develops around it.

My church is dealing with this a lot. The church was built 50 years ago before any houses were even thought about being built. Now there is a huge neighborhood around it and there are people who constantly complain about the church and their activities. So in this case, the people moving into this neighborhood know there was a church there and knew it would get busy around their house and choose to move there anyways. So you have no say in this matter.

In this case, since the houses are there before the mosque. The mosque should respect the concerns of the community. If that means not having the call to prayer, then the mosque will have to deal with that. If that also means having to figure out ways to respect the traffic flow and make it easier for the people of the neighborhood to freely move about their community. It is on the mosque.


start paying property taxes and then get back to us.
 
2014-08-20 12:03:43 PM

liam76: Headso: you're the only one claiming there's going to be a blaring call to prayer waking people up at 530, everyone else is citing traffic congestion like Muslims are actually going to be there enmasse 5 times a day 7 days a week because bigots can't fathom that Muslims in America are as devout as your typical Christian or Jew and will only be there once a week.

No, I am the one calling you out for not being able to see that the same zoning issues are faced by other houses of worship, and that there are differences between churches and mosques.

Stile4aly: That mosque in Michigan is the exception, not the rule.

Yeah, there were other mosques in the article that did and were called out.


Stile4aly: In most cases, the imam stands at the door and recites the Adhan. If you're 50 feet away, you can't hear it

If that was there plan I am sure they would be forthecoming wiht that bit of info to calm people down, absent that I woudln't want it in my neighborhood.

If a catholic church was coming and planning on building a bell tower (as this mosque had plane for aminaret) woudl you assume theyw oudl never rign the bells?


They don't actually climb up in the minaret any more. That's just decoration. They're not Amish; they know about microphones and PA systems.
 
2014-08-20 12:04:57 PM

naughtyrev: I've lived across the street from a mosque for about 5 years. Not once have I ever had a concern about noise - never hear a peep from them. What I do have, however, is lots of peaceful people going to and from their place of worship throughout the day which has a nice effect of having lots of eyes on the neighborhood to keep crime down in an area that has lots of burglaries elsewhere.


I used to live four blocks from a mosque the muezzin call to prayer got really annoying (they used a loud PA outside).  Then again, I also lived next door to a gospel church.  While the music was great, it was not so great at 7am-1PM on a Sunday.
 
2014-08-20 12:06:45 PM

liam76: bungle_jr: naughtyrev: I've lived across the street from a mosque for about 5 years. Not once have I ever had a concern about noise - never hear a peep from them. What I do have, however, is lots of peaceful people going to and from their place of worship throughout the day which has a nice effect of having lots of eyes on the neighborhood to keep crime down in an area that has lots of burglaries elsewhere.

i've spent 3 months in saudi arabia and 3 months in iraq
granted, the prayer call towers (whatever they're called, i haven't a clue) weren't as close as across the street, but i could indeed hear them quite well most of the time...it never bothered me. it was a little bit strange, not being muslim, not living in an area with a mosque, etc, but no different to me than growing up in a small strongly-christian southern town with various church bells ringing quite loudly multiple times per day

yes...yes i know this isn't about the mosque and the calls to prayer. it's about folks not understanding, nor wanting to understand, the muslim religion nor its followers

If you understood them you would know they start as early as 0530, I doubt any churches around you were rocking out their bells that early.

Also they are asking for a variance in the number of parking spaces a non residential building would normally have in that area.

But yeah, lets pretend any opposiiton is based in discrimination.


Unfortunately the past 15 years have given people plenty of justification to assume that it is discrimination. There have been a number of mosques and other muslim centres opposed based on discrimination in recent years, most notably the Muslim cultural centre in the general vicinity of the World Trade Centre and Mofreesboro.

And you should know not to expect people to read the article on Fark.
 
2014-08-20 12:09:28 PM

liam76: No, I am the one calling you out for not being able to see that the same zoning issues are faced by other houses of worship, and that there are differences between churches and mosques.


Same issues might have been faced but based on the fact that there are other churches there the outcome of dealing with those issues was not the same, again you're the only one concerned about the call to prayer, that wasn't cited as the problem but traffic was cited multiple times in the article.
 
2014-08-20 12:10:31 PM

LazyMedia: They don't actually climb up in the minaret any more. That's just decoration. They're not Amish; they know about microphones and PA systems


I wasn't trying to imply they would climb up, just that they would have speakers there.
 
2014-08-20 12:12:03 PM
Why can't people be honest like Steven from Australia? His honest bigotry was refreshing. Own your discriminatory practices people!
 
2014-08-20 12:13:23 PM

liam76: LazyMedia: They don't actually climb up in the minaret any more. That's just decoration. They're not Amish; they know about microphones and PA systems

I wasn't trying to imply they would climb up, just that they would have speakers there.


Most minarets in the US are mere architectural features, they are not used for broadcasting the Adhan.  It simply isn't done at the vast majority of US mosques.
 
2014-08-20 12:15:38 PM
When the first mosques were built, nobody had clocks let alone smart phones.  The call to prayer would be freaking important.  Nowadays if you can't find your own way to prayers on time, well you might be a pretty slack Muslim.
 
2014-08-20 12:20:57 PM

Headso: liam76: No, I am the one calling you out for not being able to see that the same zoning issues are faced by other houses of worship, and that there are differences between churches and mosques.

Same issues might have been faced but based on the fact that there are other churches there the outcome of dealing with those issues was not the same,


So you know the date all the other houses of worship in the area were built?

You know exactly what type of zoning area they were built on?

Do you know if the other houses of worship had the requirment for paved parking waved as they requested?

Or are you just making shiat up again?


Headso: again you're the only one concerned about the call to prayer, that wasn't cited as the problem but traffic was cited multiple times in the article


Don't pretend you are arguing from the article now, you clearly didn't read it.
Also if you could read the thread people have offered up other articles, and there is this thing called google, but hey why do that when you can sit there and cry racism.
 
2014-08-20 12:21:57 PM

No Such Agency: When the first mosques were built, nobody had clocks let alone smart phones.  The call to prayer would be freaking important.  Nowadays if you can't find your own way to prayers on time, well you might be a pretty slack Muslim.


I wish I thought of the smartphone app for that...
 
2014-08-20 12:25:06 PM

karnal: Diogenes: karnal: Clemkadidlefark: Islam is not a religion. It is a violent theocracy.

Like Democrats

Progressive Liberal Democrats and Muslims believe in very similar Ideology

Lulz.  The projection is blinding.

Here's a little blinding light for you:

Several months ago every single Democrat in Florida voted to force Sharia Law on the people of Florida.  Democrats voted to force this on American citizens. If they had the necessary numbers in the Florida legislature, Sharia Law would be used in Florida courts.

Remember that when it is time to vote.


<citationNeeded>
please.
 
2014-08-20 12:26:27 PM

No Such Agency: When the first mosques were built, nobody had clocks let alone smart phones.  The call to prayer would be freaking important.  Nowadays if you can't find your own way to prayers on time, well you might be a pretty slack Muslim.


An electronics engineer I worked with once had a setting on his laptop that did the call to prayer. The first time I heard it was in our assembly lab. I was the only one in there and I'll admit to being just a little freaked out until I figured out what was going on.
 
2014-08-20 12:29:11 PM

Stile4aly: Most minarets in the US are mere architectural features, they are not used for broadcasting the Adhan. It simply isn't done at the vast majority of US mosques


I would take that from an expert on Islam who was well traveled in the US. Not from a guy who insists that Mohommad wasn't a warlord.
 
2014-08-20 12:29:37 PM

liam76: So you know


liam76: You know


liam76: Do you know


liam76: Or are you just making shiat up again?


heh, like the call to prayer being blared at 530 AM and waking everyone up?

liam76: Don't pretend you are arguing from the article now, you clearly didn't read it.


I read it enough to know your call to prayer concerns are total bullshiat and have nothing to do with this case. The bigots suggested it was a traffic issue, being Muslims make up less than a half of one percent of our population I'm sure it's totally realistic that this is a real problem.
 
2014-08-20 12:33:15 PM
After the latest Muslim beheading video, who could blame em
 
2014-08-20 12:34:24 PM

Diogenes: This is about a 1/2 mile from my house (I live in Dr. Phillips).

Traffic from the new Trader Joe's, new restaurant/shopping/entertainment complex, etc. doesn't seem to bother them.  And don't even try to get in and out of this neighborhood during the Bay Hill Invitational.  And we're adding new housing subdivisions all the time.

But suddenly traffic and "charm" are a concern.  Yeah, right.

I will say this:  They quietly demolished a church to put up that new Trader Joe's.  So there is a bit of consistency to their lie that it's "not about a mosque."


Now if you read TFA, you'll see that it's not about any specific religion: They're equally against all religions and consistently in favor of sales tax revenues.
 
2014-08-20 12:36:19 PM

Headso: The bigots suggested it was a traffic issue, being Muslims make up less than a half of one percent of our population I'm sure it's totally realistic that this is a real problem


Yep, it is bigots that make up zoning laws and how much parking for a building designed to hold x number of people requires.


Complete bigotry, just like acknowledging the muslims call to prayers are often accompanied by loudspeakers.
 
2014-08-20 12:38:39 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Now if you read TFA, you'll see that it's not about any specific religion: They're equally against all religions and consistently in favor of sales tax revenues


Nope, Headso has them figured out.

Pure bigotry.

Muslims only make up less than a half of one percent of our population so there could be no traffic problem.
 
2014-08-20 12:44:17 PM

liam76: Headso: The bigots suggested it was a traffic issue, being Muslims make up less than a half of one percent of our population I'm sure it's totally realistic that this is a real problem

Yep, it is bigots that make up zoning laws and how much parking for a building designed to hold x number of people requires.


Complete bigotry, just like acknowledging the muslims call to prayers are often accompanied by loudspeakers.


uh, I know me pointing out that you are not citing their actual "concerns" and just making stuff up is a touchy subject but they were suggesting the roads couldn't handle the traffic, not that there wouldn't be enough parking ;)
 
2014-08-20 12:59:45 PM

karnal: Diogenes: karnal: Clemkadidlefark: Islam is not a religion. It is a violent theocracy.

Like Democrats

Progressive Liberal Democrats and Muslims believe in very similar Ideology

Lulz.  The projection is blinding.

Here's a little blinding light for you:

Several months ago every single Democrat in Florida voted to force Sharia Law on the people of Florida.  Democrats voted to force this on American citizens. If they had the necessary numbers in the Florida legislature, Sharia Law would be used in Florida courts.

Remember that when it is time to vote.


And what precisely are you referring to?  Care to provide a source?

I suspect you're just being dishonest to the core, once again.  At least you're consistent.  Consistently wrong and worthless.
 
2014-08-20 01:03:22 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Diogenes: This is about a 1/2 mile from my house (I live in Dr. Phillips).

Traffic from the new Trader Joe's, new restaurant/shopping/entertainment complex, etc. doesn't seem to bother them.  And don't even try to get in and out of this neighborhood during the Bay Hill Invitational.  And we're adding new housing subdivisions all the time.

But suddenly traffic and "charm" are a concern.  Yeah, right.

I will say this:  They quietly demolished a church to put up that new Trader Joe's.  So there is a bit of consistency to their lie that it's "not about a mosque."

Now if you read TFA, you'll see that it's not about any specific religion: They're equally against all religions and consistently in favor of sales tax revenues.


I'm not arguing for or against it.  But what I will say it's that's a very convenient excuse and provides nice, legal cover for bigotry.

I'll have to look up what votes Teresa Jacobs took against these other churches.  And I don't get your sales tax part at all.  But it's true that she's a whore for whomever waives some money at her.  That woman is worthless.
 
2014-08-20 01:06:47 PM

Bendal: Around here in NC the problem isn't mosques, but Christian churches that broadcast their services over loudspeakers outside of the building. There have been several lawsuits aimed at them to cut down the noise, and every single time the churches claim it is part of their belief system to distribute the sermons to the broadest possible audience, and so far the courts have refused to stop them from doing it. Their neighbors are justifiably upset; some of the subdivisions around these churches were there first, others came in afterwards, but every time the courts rule on the church's side and they keep blaring their sermons outside the buildings.

/thankful that one of those isn't nearby my house
//my wife would probably be in jail by now if they were


I'd go to the judges house with a loud speaker and stand in the middle of the road (not his property) and, read bible verses for an hour every morning.
 
2014-08-20 01:07:55 PM

karnal: Several months ago every single Democrat in Florida voted to force Sharia Law on the people of Florida. Democrats voted to force this on American citizens. If they had the necessary numbers in the Florida legislature, Sharia Law would be used in Florida courts.


Oh, this oughta be good.  *gets popcorn*

/btw, you forgot to leave "democrats" uncapitalized
 
2014-08-20 01:09:44 PM

Headso: uh, I know me pointing out that you are not citing their actual "concerns"


So you don't get what zoning laws are?

I can get that clicking on links int he thread and reading them is beyond you, as you cound't even read the article, but do you really not understand zoning laws?


eh, fark it, I am talking with a guy who thinks that since muslims "make up less than a half of one percent of our population" that they can never cause traffic problems.
 
2014-08-20 01:11:10 PM
I'm not waiting for karnal's typically lazy and dishonest spin.  Here y'all go:

'Florida Democrats just voted to impose Sharia law on women,' bloggers say

Summary:
static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2014-08-20 01:12:41 PM

karnal: Several months ago every single Democrat in Florida voted to force Sharia Law on the people of Florida.


i260.photobucket.com
 
2014-08-20 01:16:01 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: karnal: Several months ago every single Democrat in Florida voted to force Sharia Law on the people of Florida. Democrats voted to force this on American citizens. If they had the necessary numbers in the Florida legislature, Sharia Law would be used in Florida courts.

Oh, this oughta be good.  *gets popcorn*

/btw, you forgot to leave "democrats" uncapitalized


He's referring to some nonsense that a particularly herptastic RWNJ blogger spread around this spring. Not surprisingly, it's a complete pack of lies.

/If you trust those well-known libtard Fartbongo worshippers at Politifact
 
2014-08-20 01:17:44 PM

Diogenes: karnal: Diogenes: karnal: Clemkadidlefark: Islam is not a religion. It is a violent theocracy.

Like Democrats

Progressive Liberal Democrats and Muslims believe in very similar Ideology

Lulz.  The projection is blinding.

Here's a little blinding light for you:

Several months ago every single Democrat in Florida voted to force Sharia Law on the people of Florida.  Democrats voted to force this on American citizens. If they had the necessary numbers in the Florida legislature, Sharia Law would be used in Florida courts.

Remember that when it is time to vote.

And what precisely are you referring to?  Care to provide a source?

I suspect you're just being dishonest to the core, once again.  At least you're consistent.  Consistently wrong and worthless.


Source
 
2014-08-20 01:20:56 PM

karnal: Source



WesternJournalism.com
WesternJournalism.com is a blogging platform built for conservative, libertarian, free market and pro-family writers and broadcasters by the Western Center for Journalism (WCJ).

Uh huh.

Back on ignore you go.  You're just wasting my time.
 
2014-08-20 01:22:28 PM

Diogenes: I'm not waiting for karnal's typically lazy and dishonest spin.  Here y'all go:

'Florida Democrats just voted to impose Sharia law on women,' bloggers say

Summary:
[static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com image 120x107]


Florida Democrats are so stupid they simply voted their party line.....The bill is now in the Florida House of Representatives as HB 903, and is listed as "pending."
 
2014-08-20 01:27:46 PM

karnal: zOMG it's the Scary Mooselimbs!


The only people pushing Shari'a law on anyone in the US are the Barefoot and Pregnant Brigade in the Republican Party.

/AKA the Kinder, Küche, Kirche Korps
 
2014-08-20 01:32:27 PM

Diogenes: karnal: Source


WesternJournalism.com
WesternJournalism.com is a blogging platform built for conservative, libertarian, free market and pro-family writers and broadcasters by the Western Center for Journalism (WCJ).

Uh huh.

Back on ignore you go.  You're just wasting my time.


Oh brave Sir Robin.
 
2014-08-20 01:33:53 PM

liam76: Complete bigotry, just like acknowledging the muslims call to prayers are often accompanied by loudspeakers.


Then why is it you can produce only one article describing the use of loudspeakers in a mosque in the US?  There are a handful in Michigan that do this, yet nearly no other mosque in the country does.  I would think, given the way the right wing amplifies even the smallest expression of Islam into a national danger that if this were a widespread or growing  phenomenon that there would be no shortage of articles, even from biased sources.
 
2014-08-20 01:44:26 PM

karnal: Diogenes: karnal: Source


WesternJournalism.com
WesternJournalism.com is a blogging platform built for conservative, libertarian, free market and pro-family writers and broadcasters by the Western Center for Journalism (WCJ).

Uh huh.

Back on ignore you go.  You're just wasting my time.

Oh brave Sir Robin.


Puhlease.  Give us something worthy of our time and effort.

No skin off my nose if you choose to believe my boredom is actually fear.  It certainly wouldn't be the first delusion you've suffered under.  Whatever gets you through the day, sport!
 
2014-08-20 01:51:18 PM

karnal: Diogenes: karnal: Diogenes: karnal: Clemkadidlefark: Islam is not a religion. It is a violent theocracy.

Like Democrats

Progressive Liberal Democrats and Muslims believe in very similar Ideology

Lulz.  The projection is blinding.

Here's a little blinding light for you:

Several months ago every single Democrat in Florida voted to force Sharia Law on the people of Florida.  Democrats voted to force this on American citizens. If they had the necessary numbers in the Florida legislature, Sharia Law would be used in Florida courts.

Remember that when it is time to vote.

And what precisely are you referring to?  Care to provide a source?

I suspect you're just being dishonest to the core, once again.  At least you're consistent.  Consistently wrong and worthless.

Source


Way to back up your idiocy with a source AFTER two posters have already pointed out that your source was thorougly debunked. Or do you really think that "allowing judges to refer to non-U.S. legal doctrines in civil-court rulings if those apply to the case AND DO NOT CONTRADICT U.S. POLICY" = "imposing Sharia law on women"? Let me break that down more simply: Are you merely overly credulous, or actually mentally deficient?
 
2014-08-20 01:53:13 PM

karnal: Several months ago every single Democrat in Florida voted to force Sharia Law on the people of Florida.  Democrats voted to force this on American citizens. If they had the necessary numbers in the Florida legislature, Sharia Law would be used in Florida courts.

Remember that when it is time to vote.


Let me adjust my tin foil hat first.

Frankly, I'd be more worried about the major part of SCOTUS following Canon Law. As Republican appointees, remembering that when it's time to vote may not be something you'd want to promote.

And Florida, and so Texas, was once part of Spain, there is the legacy of a religious test for citizenship, marriage, inheritance. From the same people who brought you Canon Law, the Inquisition, and Teresa Jacobs, a nice Catholic girl. (says the link at about 4:12 pm in the live blog of the meeting.)

At least they kept a kind of marriage and inheritance religious test for to torture teh gheys. Nice touch.  Florida just sent us their hanging chad lawyer to keep Rick Perry from frying. So there's that.
 
2014-08-20 01:58:13 PM

LazyMedia: Are you merely overly credulous, or actually mentally deficient?


Lazy and dishonest.  It's how I have him farkied.
 
2014-08-20 02:03:30 PM

Stile4aly: Then why is it you can produce only one article describing the use of loudspeakers in a mosque in the US?


Well I produced an article about it, and you then lied and pretended it was talking about only one mosque despite it clearly calling out how it was common is some parts of detroit and dearborn.

Stile4aly: There are a handful in Michigan that do this, yet nearly no other mosque in the country does.


Based on the guy who lied saying it was one after he read that mentione more than one.

Based on the guy who claims Mo wasn't a warlord.

And in case you aren't getting the theme here.
Based on a guy who has made it clear he has no credability on the issue.


I have heard it at Mosque in my neck of the woods, but that was only on Holidays. I am not saying I know for a fact how common it is, or that they werre planning on it, but unless I had assurances they absolutely wouldn't be doing it, then ti woudl be another reason for me to be against this group building a mosque there.
 
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