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(College Football Talk)   Meet the nineteen-year-old star wide receiver who's being banned from his high school team because he's too old   (collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com ) divider line
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2014-08-20 10:06:50 AM  
He'll be 20 when/if he graduates.  Kick his ass out of school and have him take the GED. There really need to be a cutoff date for High School Seniors.
 
2014-08-20 11:05:12 AM  
Not sure if care
 
2014-08-20 11:25:59 AM  
I finished after "19 year old wide receiver".

/and by finished I mean finished reading the headline and read a good book
//don't want to break the new rules
 
2014-08-20 11:33:39 AM  
He is.
 
2014-08-20 01:31:40 PM  

borg: He'll be 20 when/if he graduates.  Kick his ass out of school and have him take the GED. There really need to be a cutoff date for High School Seniors.


At my school he would have been banned from prom. No one over 19 allowed
 
2014-08-20 01:45:15 PM  
Sounds like his parents redshirted him a few too many times
 
2014-08-20 01:45:19 PM  
Two years older than everyone else? Yeah, this is a good rule, best for everyone.
 
2014-08-20 01:46:24 PM  
bad news is, he's only in the 9th grade
 
2014-08-20 01:46:39 PM  
He's going to Bama.  This way, he has less of a chance to get hurt.
 
2014-08-20 01:49:32 PM  
19 and still in HS? Was he wearing his helmet all that time?
 
2014-08-20 01:51:42 PM  

tricycleracer: He's going to Bama.  This way, he has less of a chance to get hurt.


I'm sure the Alabama coaching staff are OK with him only playing a few games this year. Spend the rest of the time working out.

I'd throw in there "concentrating on school work" but let's be serious. Being 20 (he'll be 20 before graduation) and still having not graduated from high school it's safe to say studying was never a concern.
 
2014-08-20 01:51:43 PM  

gopher321: 19 and still in HS? Was he wearing his helmet all that time?


A birthday late in the school year and fail one grade means you'll graduate at 19.  It's not unusual.
 
2014-08-20 01:53:03 PM  
And Subby, he's not banned. He aged out. Big difference.
 
2014-08-20 01:56:34 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: gopher321: 19 and still in HS? Was he wearing his helmet all that time?

A birthday late in the school year and fail one grade means you'll graduate at 19.  It's not unusual.


Except, he's already 19 and will turn 20 during the school year.  It's not normal to graduate high school when you're 20.
 
2014-08-20 02:06:02 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: gopher321: 19 and still in HS? Was he wearing his helmet all that time?

A birthday late in the school year and fail one grade means you'll graduate at 19.  It's not unusual.


Sure, it's not unusual. That doesn't mean he should get a pass and be allowed to keep playing against kids five or six years younger than him.
 
2014-08-20 02:06:25 PM  
Meanwhile, in Virginia, the Suffolk County school board is still stinging from the fallout about a 20-year-old junior arrested for making bomb threats at his high school.

No student left behind, my ASS.
 
2014-08-20 02:08:03 PM  
Looks like that no child left behind is working after all.
 
2014-08-20 02:09:20 PM  

tricycleracer: He's going to Bama.  This way, he has less of a chance to get hurt.


So...when he goes to college, when can he opt out for the NFL? Is it 3 years after his class enters college or 3 years after when people the same age as him entered college? Seriously I have no idea
 
2014-08-20 02:11:54 PM  
Ridley will be 19 years and nine months old following the third game of the season ...

By the time I was 19-9 I had finished my second year of college, and I didn't graduated high school early.
 
2014-08-20 02:18:38 PM  
The dude is almost 20. It could be that they don't want full-grown adults laying the smackdown on 16-year-olds.
 
2014-08-20 02:24:56 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: A birthday late in the school year and fail one grade means you'll graduate at 19.  It's not unusual.


This explains the Boise State fandom - Boise State is where people who couldn't graduate HS go for college.
 
2014-08-20 02:25:33 PM  

IAmRight: Smeggy Smurf: A birthday late in the school year and fail one grade means you'll graduate at 19.  It's not unusual.

This explains the Boise State fandom - Boise State is where people who couldn't graduate HS go for college.


It's not called Bozo U for nothing
 
2014-08-20 02:26:38 PM  
Had a 16 year old in my 8th grade class, even had his license. He was a bit slow, but not retarded. Csb
 
2014-08-20 02:35:41 PM  
A friend of mine actually managed to hang around our high school until she was 21. She'd sign up for classes, then drop most of them part way through the semester, so she never got enough credits to graduate. At some point somebody noticed that she'd been there longer than half of the teachers.

/not stupid, just lazy and living at home
 
2014-08-20 02:35:44 PM  

squidloe: tricycleracer: He's going to Bama.  This way, he has less of a chance to get hurt.

I'm sure the Alabama coaching staff are OK with him only playing a few games this year. Spend the rest of the time working out.

I'd throw in there "concentrating on school work" but let's be serious. Being 20 (he'll be 20 before graduation) and still having not graduated from high school it's safe to say studying was never a concern.


Going to the SEC (and specifically, Bama), it's safe to say studying won't be a concern in college, either.
 
2014-08-20 02:44:59 PM  
I started dual enrolling in college when I was 15.  By the time I was 19 I was a college junior.
 
2014-08-20 02:53:36 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: I started dual enrolling in college when I was 15.  By the time I was 19 I was a college junior.


Tiger Woods was golfing on TV when he was two. Still turned into an asshole.
 
2014-08-20 03:07:47 PM  
The whole reason for keeping 19 year olds out of the NFL (Mo Clarrett) was to prevent them from getting creamed by full grown adults who had several years of supplements and nutritionists and two-a-days.

The same principle applies here, only in reverse.

// most people are not fully grown at 19 - there's still a wee bit of work left for the ol' pituitary
// I should think this would serve as incentive for the little farkers to get out of school across the stage, but this is Alabama - ain't nothing gonna get them learnin'
 
2014-08-20 03:08:36 PM  
If they're letting home-schoolers in, then what's the point of having any standards anymore?
 
2014-08-20 03:10:22 PM  

eagles95: tricycleracer: He's going to Bama.  This way, he has less of a chance to get hurt.

So...when he goes to college, when can he opt out for the NFL? Is it 3 years after his class enters college or 3 years after when people the same age as him entered college? Seriously I have no idea


The NFL rule is 3 years out of high school, doesn't matter if they go to college or not (i.e. military service, minor league baseball).
 
2014-08-20 03:10:34 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: gopher321: 19 and still in HS? Was he wearing his helmet all that time?

A birthday late in the school year and fail one grade means you'll graduate at 19.  It's not unusual.


Failing a grade is unusual. If you're on track to graduate at nineteen, you probably won't if my HS was any type of guide.
 
2014-08-20 03:20:35 PM  

Phoenix_M: Except, he's already 19 and will turn 20 during the school year. It's not normal to graduate high school when you're 20.


No, it isn't but in this case there's supposedly a logical explanation that doesn't involve academics.

Not going to look for a link, but I read that he immigrated as a child from Cuba and both he and his younger brother started elementary school a couple of years late.
 
2014-08-20 03:25:41 PM  
This will be a big issue in the future. I don't know one or two parents who opted to wait to enroll their kids in first grade until they were seven - I know at least a dozen, and I don't even have any kids.
 
2014-08-20 03:35:09 PM  

JustGetItRight: Phoenix_M: Except, he's already 19 and will turn 20 during the school year. It's not normal to graduate high school when you're 20.

No, it isn't but in this case there's supposedly a logical explanation that doesn't involve academics.

Not going to look for a link, but I read that he immigrated as a child from Cuba and both he and his younger brother started elementary school a couple of years late.


Well we all know Cuda has a substandard education system. The kids a moron and if you're 19 and still in high school you need to take the GED or just go to a JC. You don't actually need a high school diploma to attend University/College/JR. College in the US.
 
2014-08-20 03:46:16 PM  

JustGetItRight: No, it isn't but in this case there's supposedly a logical explanation that doesn't involve academics.

Not going to look for a link, but I read that he immigrated as a child from Cuba and both he and his younger brother started elementary school a couple of years late.


It doesn't matter.  There is a significant physical difference between a 19-20 year old and a 15-16 year old.

Safety trumps anything else in youth sports (or it should)
 
2014-08-20 03:48:17 PM  
I want to know if he was held back for academics where he can (or to be honest cannot) be college material depending on his disability/issue such as a reading problem which my wife works with where someone just needs some help and then he needs to be allowed to play as they lost a year or two until someone identified the problem and they were held back.  My real problem is if the parents wanted him to be bigger and stronger than everyone else to get an advantage and had him held back which happens all too often these days, in which case let him suffer and not play.
 
2014-08-20 03:50:05 PM  
I went to grade school with a set of identical twins that definitely did not look similar. They were both very overweight. The larger of the 2 was the nicer one, but not the smartest. He flunked 4th grade and was behind his brother for a year. His brother intentionally failed 5th so they were in the same class. The second brother then failed 6th. The first brother intentionally failed 8th so he could graduate with his brother. I often wondered if that whole family didn't eat paint chips. In high school, they both really excelled in football because of their size and were well-liked because for almost two years, they were the only kids that could drive in that class.
 
2014-08-20 03:50:07 PM  

interstellar_tedium: depending on his disability/issue such as a reading problem


Well he has committed to Alabama, so that isn't going to be an issue.
 
2014-08-20 03:55:20 PM  

MugzyBrown: It doesn't matter. There is a significant physical difference between a 19-20 year old and a 15-16 year old.

Safety trumps anything else in youth sports (or it should)


I don't disagree.  I completely understand and have got no problem with the rule.  For that matter, the linked local story says the player and his coach have known for a long time and have no plans to appeal the ruling.  I was merely pointing out that this doesn't appear to be a 'dumb jock' case.
 
2014-08-20 03:59:12 PM  

Phoenix_M: The kids a moron and if you're 19 and still in high school you need to take the GED or just go to a JC. You don't actually need a high school diploma to attend University/College/JR. College in the US.


So you know this kid personally and can testify that he's a moron and not a kid who started school late, has never failed a grade, is actually going to graduate high school and enroll in college six months ahead of his classmates, and has known for a long time that he was going to be age-ineligible this year?

If you decide to go public, you've got a gold mine on your hands because everyone else has the story completely backwards.
 
2014-08-20 04:01:53 PM  

JohnBigBootay: This will be a big issue in the future. I don't know one or two parents who opted to wait to enroll their kids in first grade until they were seven - I know at least a dozen, and I don't even have any kids.


I know this particular case is different, but if your kid is born in the middle of the summer, the only choices are youngest in the class and oldest in the class and we know that younger kids in their class on the whole don't do as well as older kids.  Add any sort of mental/learning issue to the mix and you can see why many summer parents would wait until they just turned 7 rather than put them in a just turned 6.
 
2014-08-20 04:18:40 PM  

redmid17: Smeggy Smurf: gopher321: 19 and still in HS? Was he wearing his helmet all that time?

A birthday late in the school year and fail one grade means you'll graduate at 19.  It's not unusual.

Failing a grade is unusual. If you're on track to graduate at nineteen, you probably won't if my HS was any type of guide.


This is Floriduh we're talking about
 
2014-08-20 04:25:27 PM  
Maybe he'll meet the lady who applied for a job as a writer on a WB network show (remember the WB?
Nobody else does either) claiming to be 19 years old.....and was fired when it was revealed she was 32.
(Was she fired for giving false information...or being 32 years old?  No one ever said.)
 
2014-08-20 04:32:26 PM  

Wellon Dowd: By the time I was 19-9 I had finished my second year of college, and I didn't graduated high school early.


Your post makes it questionable that you should have graduated at all.
 
2014-08-20 04:40:32 PM  
So was he too young for the team?
 
2014-08-20 04:44:58 PM  

borg: He'll be 20 when/if he graduates.  Kick his ass out of school and have him take the GED. There really need to be a cutoff date for High School Seniors.


Probably doesn't even need the GED. He's already committed to Alabama.
A top 10 receiver in the country? They'll figure out a way to get him in.
 
2014-08-20 05:09:26 PM  

12349876: I know this particular case is different, but if your kid is born in the middle of the summer, the only choices are youngest in the class and oldest in the class and we know that younger kids in their class on the whole don't do as well as older kids. Add any sort of mental/learning issue to the mix and you can see why many summer parents would wait until they just turned 7 rather than put them in a just turned 6.


Sure. I Understand it just fine. Just saying that I'm old and for the majority of my life pretty much everyone started school at the first opportunity and a 19 yo HS kid was very rare. It's not going to be rare at all in the future. There's going to be 19 yo seniors in every graduating class - some will have lots of them.
 
2014-08-20 05:42:51 PM  

JohnBigBootay: 12349876: I know this particular case is different, but if your kid is born in the middle of the summer, the only choices are youngest in the class and oldest in the class and we know that younger kids in their class on the whole don't do as well as older kids. Add any sort of mental/learning issue to the mix and you can see why many summer parents would wait until they just turned 7 rather than put them in a just turned 6.

Sure. I Understand it just fine. Just saying that I'm old and for the majority of my life pretty much everyone started school at the first opportunity and a 19 yo HS kid was very rare. It's not going to be rare at all in the future. There's going to be 19 yo seniors in every graduating class - some will have lots of them.


Don't they have kindergarten anymore? Every kid in the 70s went to kindergarten at 5, then first grade at 6. What's different now?
 
2014-08-20 05:49:11 PM  

oh_please: Don't they have kindergarten anymore? Every kid in the 70s went to kindergarten at 5, then first grade at 6. What's different now?


People be angling for their kid before they can tie their own shoes nowadays. I know multiple well-educated professional upper middle class folks in seattle with extremely well-adjusted and intelligent children who waited until 7 to start first grade. On the one hand I think it's weird because that's not how you did it when I was a kid. On the other hand I think, why should I give a shiat? Doesn't seem to be hurting anyone.
 
2014-08-20 05:57:23 PM  

oh_please: JohnBigBootay: 12349876: I know this particular case is different, but if your kid is born in the middle of the summer, the only choices are youngest in the class and oldest in the class and we know that younger kids in their class on the whole don't do as well as older kids. Add any sort of mental/learning issue to the mix and you can see why many summer parents would wait until they just turned 7 rather than put them in a just turned 6.

Sure. I Understand it just fine. Just saying that I'm old and for the majority of my life pretty much everyone started school at the first opportunity and a 19 yo HS kid was very rare. It's not going to be rare at all in the future. There's going to be 19 yo seniors in every graduating class - some will have lots of them.

Don't they have kindergarten anymore? Every kid in the 70s went to kindergarten at 5, then first grade at 6. What's different now?


Sort of combining my experience starting school in the early 90s and what I think JohnBigBootay is alluding to (not sure how true his part is, definitely plausible) is that an increasing awareness of the disadvantages of being the youngest in the class combined with all the learning/mental diagnoses combined with helicopter parenting results in some parents holding their kids a year back in the hopes it will result in better school performance, especially for the kids with summer birthdays who would be youngest in the class.  There may be a slippery slope effect happening too as the youngest would keep moving back in the calendar.  Again, not speaking here with much recent experience.
 
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