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(NPR)   One quarter of all military households rely on free food from food banks and pantries, who evidently do their part to support the troops   (npr.org) divider line 225
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NFA
2014-08-19 12:38:02 PM  
"One quarter of all military households rely on free food from food banks and pantries, who evidently do their part to support the troops"

Well that and the "housing allowance" check they get from the government. Many of the officers living in the Baltimore Washington area get a $36,000 yearly housing allowance in addition to their normal pay.
 
2014-08-19 12:46:14 PM  

NFA: Well that and the "housing allowance" check they get from the government. Many of the officers living in the Baltimore Washington area get a $36,000 yearly housing allowance in addition to their normal pay.


The operative word being "Officers".  A first term enlisted living on the economy basic allowances and pay barely cover subsistence living.  The rates are based on average for the area not for the actual cost of living reasonably close to their duty station.

This is great for a single guy living with housemates, but add a wife, kids, car payments, ect and come the end of the month the money runs out.
 
2014-08-19 12:48:08 PM  

Ennuipoet: NFA: Well that and the "housing allowance" check they get from the government. Many of the officers living in the Baltimore Washington area get a $36,000 yearly housing allowance in addition to their normal pay.

The operative word being "Officers".  A first term enlisted living on the economy basic allowances and pay barely cover subsistence living.  The rates are based on average for the area not for the actual cost of living reasonably close to their duty station.

This is great for a single guy living with housemates, but add a wife, kids, car payments, ect and come the end of the month the money runs out.


Maybe a first-term enlisted dude making damn near zero shouldn't get married or make babies.
 
2014-08-19 12:53:59 PM  

dj_bigbird: Maybe a first-term enlisted dude making damn near zero shouldn't get married or make babies.


The old if the "Army wanted you to have a wife they would'e issued her" line eh?  While I philosophically agree with you, the reality is these kids have a financial incentive to get married and have kids.  Or, rather, they think they do.

I used to tell my troops they should REALLY look at how much money they will be making versus how much it would cost to live.  They never did, but I tried.
 
2014-08-19 12:56:09 PM  
Maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't have a military larger than what we're willing to support through salaries that reflect a survivable and entirely self-sufficient wage wherever a soldier is posted.
 
2014-08-19 01:06:16 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't have a military larger than what we're willing to support through salaries that reflect a survivable and entirely self-sufficient wage wherever a soldier is posted.



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Lib like blabber detected, sound the lib alarm!

*LIB LIB LIB*
 
2014-08-19 01:06:40 PM  
"Who cares? They fight for our interests and when they are no longer of use to us, we get new ones."

~Monied Interests
 
2014-08-19 01:12:55 PM  

dj_bigbird: Maybe a first-term enlisted dude making damn near zero shouldn't get married or make babies.


Maybe you should accept the reality that they can and they do. Living in a fantasy "they shouldn't" world solves nothing.
 
2014-08-19 01:16:34 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't have a military larger than what we're willing to support through salaries that reflect a survivable and entirely self-sufficient wage wherever a soldier is posted.


This is blasphemy! This is madness!


...softball setup for the next Farker.
 
2014-08-19 01:16:58 PM  

mediablitz: dj_bigbird: Maybe a first-term enlisted dude making damn near zero shouldn't get married or make babies.

Maybe you should accept the reality that they can and they do. Living in a fantasy "they shouldn't" world solves nothing.


That's not true. It allows him to feel smugly superior while not actually addressing anything that matters while utterly missing the point.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-08-19 01:23:09 PM  
We need to take better care of our privates!
 
2014-08-19 01:26:34 PM  
Well who do you think our troops are protecting?
 
2014-08-19 01:27:37 PM  
The military used to encourage 19 year old PFC's to settle down and have a litter because it helped retention. Having dependents while on active duty is the final refuge of the Welfare Queen. At the low end of the payscale the married guy is making almost twice what a single guy makes of the same rank/MOS/time in, etc.

Don't want to live in the barracks or the ship ? Get married, get a raise and get a free apartment to boot. Want a bigger raise and a bigger house ? Have even more kids. Prenatal and delivery care are all on someone else's dime.

It's even better for female members. Don't want to go downrange and join the Route Irish Race Team ? Time it just right and you'll miss your entire deployment. Don't worry either your unit will learn to get by short handed or some other not pregnant slob will be sent in your place. Even if you are downrange already you can always change your mind and miss the rest.
 
2014-08-19 01:27:58 PM  

mediablitz: dj_bigbird: Maybe a first-term enlisted dude making damn near zero shouldn't get married or make babies.

Maybe you should accept the reality that they can and they do. Living in a fantasy "they shouldn't" world solves nothing.


Just because they do, doesn't mean I should get all weepy. They're dumbasses, for popping kids, military or not; I'm not going to be sympathetic to them just because they're active duty. Maybe they should accept some damn responsibility for their actions (or engage in a little forward thinking/planning)
 
2014-08-19 01:43:22 PM  

mediablitz: dj_bigbird: Maybe a first-term enlisted dude making damn near zero shouldn't get married or make babies.

Maybe you should accept the reality that they can and they do. Living in a fantasy "they shouldn't" world solves nothing.


I know who guys join the army precisely because they got a girl knocked up and couldn't't think of any other way to make a living. Off the top of my head, I can think of half-a-dozen guys who were married when they enlisted. I have a nephew who had four plants close in 14 years. He joined the military because he knew it would get his kids college money, and there just weren't jobs for him in the area (he's a tool and die maker). He did a term, including time in Afghanistan, and his wife and kids stayed stateside. Yes, they lived on base and still qualified for food stamps.
 
2014-08-19 01:59:49 PM  

NFA: Well that and the "housing allowance" check they get from the government. Many of the officers living in the Baltimore Washington area get a $36,000 yearly housing allowance in addition to their normal pay.


There's actually a food stamp program specifically for military families that John McCain rammed through in the early 2000s.... It's a real problem for lower-enlisted families.

dj_bigbird: Maybe a first-term enlisted dude making damn near zero shouldn't get married or make babies.


So a person that loses their job and joins the military to make a career to support their family should... just ditch them?
 
2014-08-19 02:04:11 PM  
Maybe they should pull themselves up by their bootstraps and all become generals.
 
2014-08-19 02:17:19 PM  
ask anyone...we support our troops, they say,  especially the gas bags in congress.

but when the rubber hits the road, we get this reality.

when will the lies stop?
 
2014-08-19 02:32:37 PM  

dj_bigbird: Ennuipoet: NFA: Well that and the "housing allowance" check they get from the government. Many of the officers living in the Baltimore Washington area get a $36,000 yearly housing allowance in addition to their normal pay.

The operative word being "Officers".  A first term enlisted living on the economy basic allowances and pay barely cover subsistence living.  The rates are based on average for the area not for the actual cost of living reasonably close to their duty station.

This is great for a single guy living with housemates, but add a wife, kids, car payments, ect and come the end of the month the money runs out.

Maybe a first-term enlisted dude making damn near zero shouldn't get married or make babies.


Exactly. In the ideal situation, the soldier becomes cannon fodder before he can leave a widow and kids behind that the taxpayers have to support.

Why shouldn't he get married or make babies? He's an adult male (or female) who has signed up to serve the country, and die if necessary. Sure, some sign up because they have minimal education and nothing else and come from poverty. So what? As it is now, it's shameful that we can't support a soldier with a family, especially when you compare it to what we pay defense contractors for their equipment and weapons. And don't even get me started on how we treat our veterans. It's shameful.

Shameful.
 
2014-08-19 03:15:03 PM  

dj_bigbird: mediablitz: dj_bigbird: Maybe a first-term enlisted dude making damn near zero shouldn't get married or make babies.

Maybe you should accept the reality that they can and they do. Living in a fantasy "they shouldn't" world solves nothing.

Just because they do, doesn't mean I should get all weepy. They're dumbasses, for popping kids, military or not; I'm not going to be sympathetic to them just because they're active duty. Maybe they should accept some damn responsibility for their actions (or engage in a little forward thinking/planning)


No one is asking you to be sympathetic, or to acknowledge something that has existed since the dawn of civilization.

We are asking you to shut up and go be a whiner somewhere else, and let the adults actually SOLVE the problem. You're impotent rage and high horse mentality has been duly noted.
 
2014-08-19 03:44:27 PM  
Stop giving money to Israel.  Give that money to veterans.  Problem solved.
 
2014-08-19 03:44:39 PM  
But do they have a Support The Troops magnet on their cars?
 
2014-08-19 03:45:26 PM  
On the plus side, officer pay ranges from pretty good to whole lots.

They really need to rebalance

/was one
 
2014-08-19 03:46:02 PM  

dj_bigbird: Maybe a first-term enlisted dude making damn near zero shouldn't get married or make babies.


Cus if there's one thing people with advanced tactical training and access to weaponry don't need, it's a stable home life.
 
2014-08-19 03:46:10 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't have a military larger than what we're willing to support through salaries that reflect a survivable and entirely self-sufficient wage wherever a soldier is posted.


British troops are paid a good wage compared to American ones.
 
2014-08-19 03:47:51 PM  
I would like to remind all of you about Benghazi.
 
2014-08-19 03:48:18 PM  

vpb: We need to take better care of our privates!


Stroke those privates.
 
2014-08-19 03:48:46 PM  
I thought they fed off of the thanks we are supposed to give them every day. Isn't that why we're doing it?
 
2014-08-19 03:49:03 PM  

BalugaJoe: vpb: We need to take better care of our privates!

Stroke those privates.


Make sure those privates are clean shaven.
 
2014-08-19 03:49:10 PM  

saintstryfe: dj_bigbird: Maybe a first-term enlisted dude making damn near zero shouldn't get married or make babies.

Cus if there's one thing people with advanced tactical training and access to weaponry don't need, it's a stable home life.


Paying the troops doesn't bring in the kickbacks like pork barrel spending on equipment does.
 
2014-08-19 03:49:53 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: dj_bigbird: Ennuipoet: NFA: Well that and the "housing allowance" check they get from the government. Many of the officers living in the Baltimore Washington area get a $36,000 yearly housing allowance in addition to their normal pay.

The operative word being "Officers".  A first term enlisted living on the economy basic allowances and pay barely cover subsistence living.  The rates are based on average for the area not for the actual cost of living reasonably close to their duty station.

This is great for a single guy living with housemates, but add a wife, kids, car payments, ect and come the end of the month the money runs out.

Maybe a first-term enlisted dude making damn near zero shouldn't get married or make babies.

Exactly. In the ideal situation, the soldier becomes cannon fodder before he can leave a widow and kids behind that the taxpayers have to support.

Why shouldn't he get married or make babies? He's an adult male (or female) who has signed up to serve the country, and die if necessary. Sure, some sign up because they have minimal education and nothing else and come from poverty. So what? As it is now, it's shameful that we can't support a soldier with a family, especially when you compare it to what we pay defense contractors for their equipment and weapons. And don't even get me started on how we treat our veterans. It's shameful.

Shameful.


Correct -- these adults are serving the geo-political interests of the United States.  The last time the United States was under any kind of direct military threat was in 1812.
 
2014-08-19 03:50:23 PM  
Can't wait til all of the medical bills from the current group come due.

That'll be awesome
 
2014-08-19 03:50:50 PM  
Surely, a tax cut for the rich would solve this problem!
 
2014-08-19 03:51:21 PM  

Gary-L: ecmoRandomNumbers: dj_bigbird: Ennuipoet: NFA: Well that and the "housing allowance" check they get from the government. Many of the officers living in the Baltimore Washington area get a $36,000 yearly housing allowance in addition to their normal pay.

The operative word being "Officers".  A first term enlisted living on the economy basic allowances and pay barely cover subsistence living.  The rates are based on average for the area not for the actual cost of living reasonably close to their duty station.

This is great for a single guy living with housemates, but add a wife, kids, car payments, ect and come the end of the month the money runs out.

Maybe a first-term enlisted dude making damn near zero shouldn't get married or make babies.

Exactly. In the ideal situation, the soldier becomes cannon fodder before he can leave a widow and kids behind that the taxpayers have to support.

Why shouldn't he get married or make babies? He's an adult male (or female) who has signed up to serve the country, and die if necessary. Sure, some sign up because they have minimal education and nothing else and come from poverty. So what? As it is now, it's shameful that we can't support a soldier with a family, especially when you compare it to what we pay defense contractors for their equipment and weapons. And don't even get me started on how we treat our veterans. It's shameful.

Shameful.


Correction -- these adults are serving the geo-political interests of the United States.  The last time the United States was under any kind of direct military threat was in 1812.

Dammit.  Fixed it.
 
2014-08-19 03:51:40 PM  

Nadie_AZ: "Who cares? They fight for our interests and when they are no longer of use to us, we get new ones."

~Monied Interests


The new ones being the kids of the poor grunt.

/Military-Industrial complex is a like a Von Nuemann machine. Never ending until it has consumed every resource available.
 
2014-08-19 03:52:11 PM  
There's too much socialism in our military.  We need to get the government right the fark out of our military and privatize it.  THAT, ladies and gentleman, is how we solve this problem.
 
2014-08-19 03:54:37 PM  
One quarter of all military households rely on free food from food banks and pantries, who evidently do their part to support the troops...

...because godless unpatriotic republicans hate America.
 
2014-08-19 03:56:55 PM  

dj_bigbird: mediablitz: dj_bigbird: Maybe a first-term enlisted dude making damn near zero shouldn't get married or make babies.

Maybe you should accept the reality that they can and they do. Living in a fantasy "they shouldn't" world solves nothing.

Just because they do, doesn't mean I should get all weepy. They're dumbasses, for popping kids, military or not; I'm not going to be sympathetic to them just because they're active duty. Maybe they should accept some damn responsibility for their actions (or engage in a little forward thinking/planning)


Because18-22 year olds are known for their forward thinking abilities.

Remember being that age? Remember getting your first decent paycheck? Did you put it in a long term growth investment plan, or did you blow it on something stupid trying to look cool and impress girls?
 
2014-08-19 03:57:24 PM  

dj_bigbird: Maybe a first-term enlisted dude making damn near zero shouldn't get married or make babies.


They should make babies. Lots of babies. And adopt.

All the best anti-war books were written by soldiers who went to battle, in my opinion. All the best anti-war philosophers, the best pacifists, the best doves in politics, the best peacemakers, the most intense anti-war artists, were fed up and shell shocked soldiers who wouldn't take anymore shiat.

I think soldiers should be encouraged to raise the next generation of voters, because nobody hates war like a veteran hates war. We would have a society of peace within 2 decades if soldiers who had been to war got to teach the next generation. Hell, add a new class to high school curriculum called Peace Studies, make sure it is taught by a vet. Or, if no vets are available, a hippie who turned a pair of boots into flowerpots and can show people how to make plowshares from any number of bayonets.
 
2014-08-19 03:58:05 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't have a military larger than what we're willing to support through salaries that reflect a survivable and entirely self-sufficient wage wherever a soldier is posted.


Look at you, making sense and all.....

A conservative will be along shortly to clobber you with some word salad about freedums and soshulists and stuff.
 
2014-08-19 03:58:30 PM  
this is depressing, especially after the "How America outsourced our national security" green.

so, we can't afford to pay our soldiers a living wage but we CAN blow a shiat ton of money on some shady, murderous mercenaries.
 
2014-08-19 03:58:56 PM  
I certainly hope they are being drug tested before getting free food.
 
2014-08-19 04:01:08 PM  
It would be a really great idea to see President Obama try to get a bill passed that increases welfare for military families.  How would Republicans react to that?  Do they compromise their visceral hatred for all things 'Welfare'?  Or do they paint troops as freeloaders?  Either way, Democrats win.
 
2014-08-19 04:04:41 PM  

sweetmelissa31: I certainly hope they are being drug tested before getting free food.


well they are already getting all of those obamaguns and obamatanks
 
2014-08-19 04:05:44 PM  
That's the way it's supposed to work, private charities take care of the poors so I don't have my money taken from me at the point of a gun.
 
2014-08-19 04:06:16 PM  

sweetmelissa31: I certainly hope they are being drug tested before getting free food.


Oh, they get drug tested.
 
2014-08-19 04:07:21 PM  

vpb: We need to take better care of our privates!


don't judge  me
 
2014-08-19 04:07:38 PM  
We should allow our soldiers to forage and pillage but only inside the Beltway. And just for 24 hours.

That's all it probably would take for Congress to fund higher military wages.
 
2014-08-19 04:07:49 PM  
"God bless our troops!"
"We need to give enlistees a raise so they can feed their families."
"Those goddam welfare queens, living off my dime! Fark 'em!"

or alternately:

"Why don't they just ask their parents for $20,000 to tide them over?"
 
2014-08-19 04:08:01 PM  
dog bites man story
 
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