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(Kotaku)   Steampunks design their own Star Wars AT ATs, universally acclaimed as a game changer: "It would be the slowest thing in the galaxy"   (kotaku.com) divider line 56
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2014-08-19 12:48:33 PM  
i1350.photobucket.com
 
2014-08-19 04:15:07 PM  
It's made out of plastic.  The fire would burn the thing.
 
2014-08-19 04:20:02 PM  
I refuse to believe in any technology that doesn't acknowledge the existence of electric actuators.
 
2014-08-19 04:27:03 PM  

RobotSpider: I refuse to believe in any technology that doesn't acknowledge the existence of electric actuators.


I refuse to believe in your reality so I shall substitute my own.  Mine has flying battlebots so mine is clearly superior.
 
2014-08-19 04:31:00 PM  

RobotSpider: I refuse to believe in any technology that doesn't acknowledge the existence of electric actuators.


You have a very narrow view of technology
 
2014-08-19 04:32:38 PM  
So, if I slap some smokestacks on my Hyundai, fill the trunk with coal and paint it brown I can be a steampunk too?
 
2014-08-19 04:33:21 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: RobotSpider: I refuse to believe in any technology that doesn't acknowledge the existence of electric actuators.

I refuse to believe in your reality so I shall substitute my own.  Mine has flying battlebots so mine is clearly superior.


He's got you there.  Flying battlebots rule.
 
2014-08-19 04:33:34 PM  
How does that qualify as Steampunk?  Unless I don't understand the meaning of steampunk.
 
2014-08-19 04:34:40 PM  
Looking aside from the basic point that the AT-AT, as shown in tESB, was just about the worst designed military vehicle in the history of ever.
 
2014-08-19 04:38:46 PM  

deschinc: So, if I slap some smokestacks on my Hyundai, fill the trunk with coal and paint it brown I can be a steampunk too?


Needs moar cogs!
 
2014-08-19 04:42:55 PM  

DubyaHater: How does that qualify as Steampunk?  Unless I don't understand the meaning of steampunk.


Some shiat that was over about 10 years ago.
 
2014-08-19 04:43:15 PM  
That At-At needs a fedora and a neckbeard.
 
2014-08-19 04:51:14 PM  

xaks: Looking aside from the basic point that the AT-AT, as shown in tESB, was just about the worst designed military vehicle in the history of ever.


I dunno. The AT-ST might well be dumber thanks to only two legs (all the drawbacks of the AT-AT minus the stability).

In a universe with repulsor lift technology allowing even small private vehicles to hover there's no reason at all to make a walker. Moreover, few things in that universe seem to have actual wheels- if large wheels aren't workable in the terrain one must overcome then a walker design probably won't work either. Easier to just enter atmosphere right on top of the destination if you can't fly in at low altitude.
 
2014-08-19 04:53:03 PM  

xaks: Looking aside from the basic point that the AT-AT, as shown in tESB, was just about the worst designed military vehicle in the history of ever.


They did have the one glaring weakness but they were basically immune to blaster fire (except when knocked down).
 
2014-08-19 05:04:40 PM  

cretinbob: DubyaHater: How does that qualify as Steampunk?  Unless I don't understand the meaning of steampunk.

Some shiat that was over about 10 years ago.


If only.
 
2014-08-19 05:11:37 PM  
And THIS got a greenlight?  So lame.

If it don't have brass, leather, lots of long axles and cogs, and, for heaven's sake, steam, then let's not say it is steam punk.

If it is made of Legos, it better be epic and either a) larger than most personal vehicles or b) self-propelled with functioning weaponry.

C'mon Fark mods, let's keep our standards high!
 
2014-08-19 05:14:38 PM  

akula: xaks: Looking aside from the basic point that the AT-AT, as shown in tESB, was just about the worst designed military vehicle in the history of ever.

I dunno. The AT-ST might well be dumber thanks to only two legs (all the drawbacks of the AT-AT minus the stability).

In a universe with repulsor lift technology allowing even small private vehicles to hover there's no reason at all to make a walker. Moreover, few things in that universe seem to have actual wheels- if large wheels aren't workable in the terrain one must overcome then a walker design probably won't work either. Easier to just enter atmosphere right on top of the destination if you can't fly in at low altitude.


I think they needed the slow moving walkers to penetrate the shield surrounding the rebel base. Like in Episode One, where the battle droids had to slowly walk though the gungan shields. Anything moving faster would be repelled. As for the design, it may be impractical, but if I saw one of those (let alone five!) I'd want to haul ass or surrender! Might be just for the fear factor. The empire doesn't really want to fight so they hope you will be so afraid that you'll just give up.
 
2014-08-19 05:15:44 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: I refuse to believe in your reality so I shall substitute my own.


ts1.mm.bing.net
 
2014-08-19 05:19:16 PM  

Richard_The_Clown: akula: xaks: Looking aside from the basic point that the AT-AT, as shown in tESB, was just about the worst designed military vehicle in the history of ever.

I dunno. The AT-ST might well be dumber thanks to only two legs (all the drawbacks of the AT-AT minus the stability).

In a universe with repulsor lift technology allowing even small private vehicles to hover there's no reason at all to make a walker. Moreover, few things in that universe seem to have actual wheels- if large wheels aren't workable in the terrain one must overcome then a walker design probably won't work either. Easier to just enter atmosphere right on top of the destination if you can't fly in at low altitude.

I think they needed the slow moving walkers to penetrate the shield surrounding the rebel base. Like in Episode One, where the battle droids had to slowly walk though the gungan shields. Anything moving faster would be repelled. As for the design, it may be impractical, but if I saw one of those (let alone five!) I'd want to haul ass or surrender! Might be just for the fear factor. The empire doesn't really want to fight so they hope you will be so afraid that you'll just give up.


Could be, and maybe I'm a simple man, but I figure there's an asteroid field nearby. I've got big ass ships, I've got tractor beams. I just drag those asteroids over there and dump them down Hoth's gravity well. The ones that don't hit the shield will cause such devastation that it will render the place uninhabitable (not that Hoth was all that great to start with).

Why bother screwing around with planet killing lasers or anything like that? Just put some drive units onto a big space rock, fly them into an intersecting trajectory, and be done with it. If they could manage to propel the Death Star or Super Star Destroyers they can do this to mile wide asteroids. Even if you have a big shield that's one hell of a lot of energy to have to dissipate.
 
2014-08-19 05:21:32 PM  
Title should read: grown man plays with legos.
 
2014-08-19 05:28:24 PM  

akula: xaks: Looking aside from the basic point that the AT-AT, as shown in tESB, was just about the worst designed military vehicle in the history of ever.

I dunno. The AT-ST might well be dumber thanks to only two legs (all the drawbacks of the AT-AT minus the stability).

In a universe with repulsor lift technology allowing even small private vehicles to hover there's no reason at all to make a walker. Moreover, few things in that universe seem to have actual wheels- if large wheels aren't workable in the terrain one must overcome then a walker design probably won't work either. Easier to just enter atmosphere right on top of the destination if you can't fly in at low altitude.


Weight ratio - it's reasonable to assume that whatever armor used by the AT-AT is to heavy to be lifted by repulsors small enough to fit in the vehicle.
 
2014-08-19 05:28:25 PM  

bigdanc: Title should read: grown man plays with legos.


Not a goddamn thing wrong with that.

www.adweek.com
 
2014-08-19 05:29:36 PM  
It doesn't have enough corsets.
 
2014-08-19 05:31:42 PM  

deschinc: So, if I slap some smokestacks on my Hyundai, fill the trunk with coal and paint it brown I can be a steampunk too?


<StopLiikingThingsIDontLike,jpg>
 
2014-08-19 05:34:09 PM  
But all the arguments aside, it's the conceits of the genre. It's not supposed to be realistic. It's supposed to be stylized and heroic. It's supposed to pay homage.

AT-ATs on Hoth are just monstrous battle elephants coming over the Alps to wage war against a people who had never seen them before.
 
2014-08-19 05:35:17 PM  

Empty H: It doesn't have enough corsets.


Whenever I wear a corset it cuts off the steam supply to my smokestack, if you know what I mean.

/and I think you do
//do do doodly do
 
2014-08-19 05:42:36 PM  

deschinc: Empty H: It doesn't have enough corsets.

Whenever I wear a corset it cuts off the steam supply to my smokestack, if you know what I mean.

/and I think you do
//do do doodly do


To be clear I was speaking despairingly of steam punk in general.
 
2014-08-19 05:44:06 PM  
 
2014-08-19 05:45:11 PM  

SwingDancer: deschinc: So, if I slap some smokestacks on my Hyundai, fill the trunk with coal and paint it brown I can be a steampunk too?

<StopLiikingThingsIDontLike,jpg>


I actually find well done steampunk to be kinda cool. This was kinda meh in my opinion. People randomly hot gluing gears and dials to things also falls into the less than fabulous category.
 
2014-08-19 05:48:22 PM  
Is anyone else getting really, really tired of Legos?

Check out the "builders gallery" link. Guess what all the models are made from.
Go ahead, guess.
 
2014-08-19 05:51:06 PM  

Hmm... I think I may have seen something like this before....



fnacpantherimage.toutlecine.com

 
2014-08-19 06:03:27 PM  
Lets see if this Strandbeest gif fits.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-08-19 06:21:17 PM  

max_pooper: Hmm... I think I may have seen something like this before....

[fnacpantherimage.toutlecine.com image 650x400]


*shakes fist*
 
2014-08-19 06:28:30 PM  
I thought this steampunk shiat would be over by now.
 
2014-08-19 06:30:32 PM  
I think it looks good.

/Don't hurt me.
 
2014-08-19 06:32:32 PM  
Actual Article : Steampunks re-build last week's dali elephant lego into a "steampunk" "ATAT"
 
2014-08-19 08:11:47 PM  
In response to all you narrow-minded steampunk haters:  http://www.steamgirl.com/
 
2014-08-19 08:39:32 PM  

maxwellton: In response to all you narrow-minded steampunk haters:  http://www.steamgirl.com/


That just made me hate it more.
 
2014-08-19 08:51:29 PM  

deschinc: So, if I slap some smokestacks on my Hyundai, fill the trunk with coal and paint it brown I can be a steampunk too?


38.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-08-19 09:11:36 PM  

fusillade762: deschinc: So, if I slap some smokestacks on my Hyundai, fill the trunk with coal and paint it brown I can be a steampunk too?

[38.media.tumblr.com image 500x500]


s1llypeople.weebly.com

www.toyota-4runner.org
Yeah, right.  I ain't 'fraid of no Ford.
 
2014-08-19 10:34:45 PM  

akula: Richard_The_Clown: akula: xaks: Looking aside from the basic point that the AT-AT, as shown in tESB, was just about the worst designed military vehicle in the history of ever.

I dunno. The AT-ST might well be dumber thanks to only two legs (all the drawbacks of the AT-AT minus the stability).

In a universe with repulsor lift technology allowing even small private vehicles to hover there's no reason at all to make a walker. Moreover, few things in that universe seem to have actual wheels- if large wheels aren't workable in the terrain one must overcome then a walker design probably won't work either. Easier to just enter atmosphere right on top of the destination if you can't fly in at low altitude.

I think they needed the slow moving walkers to penetrate the shield surrounding the rebel base. Like in Episode One, where the battle droids had to slowly walk though the gungan shields. Anything moving faster would be repelled. As for the design, it may be impractical, but if I saw one of those (let alone five!) I'd want to haul ass or surrender! Might be just for the fear factor. The empire doesn't really want to fight so they hope you will be so afraid that you'll just give up.

Could be, and maybe I'm a simple man, but I figure there's an asteroid field nearby. I've got big ass ships, I've got tractor beams. I just drag those asteroids over there and dump them down Hoth's gravity well. The ones that don't hit the shield will cause such devastation that it will render the place uninhabitable (not that Hoth was all that great to start with).

Why bother screwing around with planet killing lasers or anything like that? Just put some drive units onto a big space rock, fly them into an intersecting trajectory, and be done with it. If they could manage to propel the Death Star or Super Star Destroyers they can do this to mile wide asteroids. Even if you have a big shield that's one hell of a lot of energy to have to dissipate.


Same reason we don't just nuke the middle east and call it a day.  We "can't".

Also:
i1185.photobucket.com

On an interplanetary scale of advanced technology, an AT-AT would be the equivalent of a stealthy slitting of the throat.

Also:
We don't know what other kinds of defenses/sciences that the drives of maneuverable spacecraft rely on.  What if a shielding device rendered airborne drives inert or something of the sort?

AT-AT's weren't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but the idea of a walking vehicle has always been a novel idea with it's own pro's and con's.

Hovering/flying vehicles like land speeders would prove troublesome in mountainous terrain with feet/yards of snow.  The rebels even made issue of getting their craft outfitted for the extreme cold.

Walkers of the AT-AT sort would negate a lot of that.  Large joints with a lot of power behind them wouldn't be bothered quite so easily by a little bit of frost, are well above the snow layer itself, etc.  Solidly grounded yet retaining a high perspective of the battlefield yielding a sort of artificial "high ground" which is always advantageous in warfare.

The idea is sound at any rate, even if the visual representation was lackluster at best.

And as is always the case.  Novelty itself has value over "realistic".  Star Wars fought with abrams tanks and aircraft carriers/battleships or anything else of the sort just wouldn't have been as cool.

It's easy to design a cool spaceship, or an ugly one with a lot of spirit(firefly), but ground units, especially on large scale are more difficult to do.
 
2014-08-19 11:01:48 PM  

xaks: Looking aside from the basic point that the AT-AT, as shown in tESB, was just about the worst designed military vehicle in the history of ever.


This.
Your best super futuristic armored vehicle shouldn't be outclassed by 70 tons of twentieth century Chobam armor and a 120mm smooth bore main gun.

/M1 Abrams FTW.  And yes, the sabot round would make short work of it.
 
2014-08-20 12:11:44 AM  
AT-ATs are just as much about psychological warfare and intimidation as they are firepower and armor. That's the Empire's thing... Intimidation through scary-looking stuff. AT-ATs look like they'll step on your house. Stormtroopers wear generic/faceless, skull-like helmets. TIE fighters scream at you. Star Destroyers are called "STAR DESTROYERS" and they are able to hover in the atmosphere and bombard cities into rubble. The crowning technological achievement of the Empire was a space station they openly named THE  DEATH STAR. Try running that name past the PR department of most nations and you'll get a lot of opposition.

Everything they did was about inspiring fear.
 
2014-08-20 01:04:49 AM  

maxwellton: In response to all you narrow-minded steampunk haters:  http://www.steamgirl.com/


Whatever floats your boat.

/not impressed
 
2014-08-20 02:50:40 AM  
It looks like a Leggo kit.
This is how it's done.
img.fark.net
 
2014-08-20 06:52:03 AM  
If you are into steampunk more power to you.  The thing that always confused me is the use of the term "punk".  I can understand the "steam" part of it, but while a "headbanger" I have punk rocker friends.  When I think of the word "punk" I think of the Ramones, Sex Pistols, Dead Kennedy's, Black Flag, spiked mohawk hair cuts, green hair, etc.  I certainly don't think of gears, outdated fashion, and old 19 century technology.  It's as if the creator inserted the word "punk" to try to make it sound cool.
 
2014-08-20 08:14:54 AM  

WilderKWight: AT-ATs are just as much about psychological warfare and intimidation as they are firepower and armor. That's the Empire's thing... Intimidation through scary-looking stuff. AT-ATs look like they'll step on your house. Stormtroopers wear generic/faceless, skull-like helmets. TIE fighters scream at you. Star Destroyers are called "STAR DESTROYERS" and they are able to hover in the atmosphere and bombard cities into rubble. The crowning technological achievement of the Empire was a space station they openly named THE  DEATH STAR. Try running that name past the PR department of most nations and you'll get a lot of opposition.

Everything they did was about inspiring fear.


This. I think there is even a line somewhere about it being designed to tap into the primal fears of every species in the galaxy.

Not to mention, they are utterly unstoppable by conventional tactics. Good thing we've had 30 years of internetting to prove conclusively how terrible they were.
 
2014-08-20 08:46:33 AM  
http://www.onlinepropertyshowcase.com/showcase/10328/

Steampunk house in my home town.  I really want to get in there some day.
 
2014-08-20 09:38:31 AM  

Richard_The_Clown: akula: xaks: Looking aside from the basic point that the AT-AT, as shown in tESB, was just about the worst designed military vehicle in the history of ever.

I dunno. The AT-ST might well be dumber thanks to only two legs (all the drawbacks of the AT-AT minus the stability).

In a universe with repulsor lift technology allowing even small private vehicles to hover there's no reason at all to make a walker. Moreover, few things in that universe seem to have actual wheels- if large wheels aren't workable in the terrain one must overcome then a walker design probably won't work either. Easier to just enter atmosphere right on top of the destination if you can't fly in at low altitude.

I think they needed the slow moving walkers to penetrate the shield surrounding the rebel base. Like in Episode One, where the battle droids had to slowly walk though the gungan shields. Anything moving faster would be repelled. As for the design, it may be impractical, but if I saw one of those (let alone five!) I'd want to haul ass or surrender! Might be just for the fear factor. The empire doesn't really want to fight so they hope you will be so afraid that you'll just give up.


This and, imagine an AT-AT slowly making it's way through a less advanced population center...

/was a great poster titled ManhAT-ATan we sold at a comic shop I used to work at
//on phone so no link :(
 
2014-08-20 09:47:22 AM  

heavymetal: If you are into steampunk more power to you.  The thing that always confused me is the use of the term "punk".  I can understand the "steam" part of it, but while a "headbanger" I have punk rocker friends.  When I think of the word "punk" I think of the Ramones, Sex Pistols, Dead Kennedy's, Black Flag, spiked mohawk hair cuts, green hair, etc.  I certainly don't think of gears, outdated fashion, and old 19 century technology.  It's as if the creator inserted the word "punk" to try to make it sound cool.


It's a reference to the 'independent, creative, DYI' aspects of Punk culture. Personally, I refer to them as Steamers
 
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