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2014-08-19 08:35:01 AM  
It's Pope Karaoke!

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2014-08-19 09:15:35 AM  
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Wants his schtick back.
 
2014-08-19 09:24:33 AM  
War Pope. Turn the other cheek, Oh MY GOD the other cheek has a machine gun! dudududududu!
 
2014-08-19 09:25:22 AM  
Isn't this a bit unprecedented?  I mean sure Popes of old have raised armies themselves but has any modern Pope actually called for an attack on any group?
 
2014-08-19 09:35:06 AM  
Even the Pope is sick of their shiat.
 
2014-08-19 09:48:07 AM  

nekom: Isn't this a bit unprecedented?  I mean sure Popes of old have raised armies themselves but has any modern Pope actually called for an attack on any group?


IIRC, JPII sanctioned the Afghanistan Operation in order to stop Al Qaeda. The RCC has a long running internal debate on jus ad bellum ("Just War") and jus in bellum ("Justice in War").
 
2014-08-19 09:50:55 AM  
If only we could install a dictator in Iraq that would hold the country together in a secular fashion and keep order and make the trains run on time...
 
2014-08-19 09:52:28 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: If only we could install a dictator in Iraq that would hold the country together in a secular fashion and keep order and make the trains oil tankers run on time...


Let's not kid ourselves.
 
2014-08-19 09:53:00 AM  
Oh, cool. the Pope calling foe a Crusade.
This never ends badly.
 
2014-08-19 09:53:07 AM  
I've lost count. Which crusade is this?
 
2014-08-19 09:53:25 AM  
If I know how the Vatican responds to military threats in the Middle East, and I think I do, this really means that the Pope is about to attack the Greeks, after burning down a bunch of Jewish communities in France and Germany.
 
2014-08-19 09:53:42 AM  

nekom: has any modern Pope actually called for an attack on any group?


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/ I don't know if he said it out loud
 
2014-08-19 09:53:47 AM  
Suck on this.
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2014-08-19 09:54:16 AM  
I watched a video of Isis marching people into mass graves while firing machine guns causally into the victims. I don't think turning the other cheek works in this case.
 
2014-08-19 09:54:19 AM  
I can't really see anyone thinking we should let them just keep raping, torturing and beheading innocent people, pope or not.  It's not like a nice fireside chat is going to stop them.
 
2014-08-19 09:54:20 AM  
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2014-08-19 09:54:26 AM  
Can we just give this guy the "best pope ever" award right now?
 
2014-08-19 09:55:14 AM  
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2014-08-19 09:55:50 AM  
just drop a mirror on him

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2014-08-19 09:56:16 AM  
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2014-08-19 09:56:21 AM  
Why not? It's not like the Catholics have never killed anyone in the name of their religion. Because it's about religion just makes it okay.
 
2014-08-19 09:57:13 AM  
Fatwah! versus Bull!

Who will win?

It's the Sword versus the Rock!

Also appearing the All Star Monster Truck Tour's Jihadi Jalopy and the Jody's MRAP Sex Machine!!!
 
2014-08-19 09:57:52 AM  
This is not a crusade. I repeat, this is not a crusade!
 
2014-08-19 09:57:54 AM  
I'll bet the House Republicans will starting lining up to vote for the resolution honoring Francis now.
 
2014-08-19 09:58:56 AM  

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*shakes fist*
 
2014-08-19 09:59:27 AM  

jso2897: Oh, cool. the Pope calling foe a Crusade.
This never ends badly.


Yep. It's amazing how an enlightened man of God can call for a crusade. He's gonna screw this up real bad if billions of Catholics suddenly believe it's God's will to go and slaughter first ISIS then their supporters then anyone who won't eat pork then Methodists...

Once you start justifying slaughter all you see is necks. Necks everywhere.
 
2014-08-19 10:00:05 AM  
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/I know, wrong one, still applies
 
2014-08-19 10:02:37 AM  
Literally going to Iraq to meet with Christians there.

This guy might deserve the title of Pope.
 
2014-08-19 10:03:17 AM  
Pope's awful brave with other peoples' armies. Tell you what, guy...you're so concerned over the Christians in Iraq getting slaughtered by Muslim crazies, send in the Swiss Guard.

Or just come out and say "Catholics should go and fight the Islamic State, this is not a drill."
 
2014-08-19 10:03:22 AM  
What? You just expected a Jesuit pope to take the wholesale slaughter and abuse of one of the oldest christian communities in the world sitting down? It's about time people remembered that the whole passive "pacifist christian" movement is a very recent historical invention.
 
2014-08-19 10:03:47 AM  
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Taking lessons from Gandhi again
 
2014-08-19 10:04:37 AM  
Ooh, a Pope who's read both the New AND Old Testiments.  Awesome.

/dig the guy
//best pope evar?
 
2014-08-19 10:04:43 AM  

CruJones: I can't really see anyone thinking we should let them just keep raping, torturing and beheading innocent people, pope or not.  It's not like a nice fireside chat is going to stop them.


The beauty of an enemy like ISIS for once is that they are universally despised, do not at the moment have the support of the indigenous population, do not cause any sympathy for their "struggle," and have an open goal of taking over an entire region of the globe which all makes for an easy justification to fight them.

Defeating them completely won't be easy, but it should be possible with sufficient air strikes and western supplies to make them mostly irrelevant. They can't hide out and blend in with the population and they are not simply a result of Western/infidel presence. Blow up enough of their equipment and supplies and, while you can't destroy their cause, you can at least prevent them from controlling large amounts of territory.

And yes, like it or not, we own the situation in Iraq to some extent and need to clean it up.
 
2014-08-19 10:04:57 AM  
But, but.. the CRUUUUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAADESSSSSSssssssssss!!1!!11!one!  Obviously his point is invalid!

To that, I say "Shut up, Susan." as Dr. Cox would.

Seriously, this IS the most despicably barbaric group this planet has seen in awhile.

I was about to liken the current situation to events in Cambodia, but I'm not sure if they ever beheaded children and mounted their heads on pikes as a means to intimidate their enemy.
 
2014-08-19 10:05:40 AM  

jso2897: Oh, cool. the Pope calling foe a Crusade.
This never ends badly.


To be fair the only problem with the original crusades was that in trying to export internal strife externally to protect Christendom from the defiling Saracen, it took all the internal divisions and conflicts with it, which just led to a disjointed army with no coherent leadership. The first crusaders couldn't wait to betray the oaths made to the Byzantine Emperor to restore lands to them, and set up their own petty kingdoms. And look what happened when Emperor Barbarossa died. They had the chance to liberate the holy lands and keep them holy, but their own rivalries and grievances left them weak when the Mamlukes came knocking. Ever since the holy land has been despoiled and ravaged by heretics and infidels.

Fortunately today with more united nation states, the ability to project force globally from a command room back at home, and superior logistics, our crusades can work. All we need is leadership, and resolve. Oh, and a sound strategy... Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.
 
2014-08-19 10:06:50 AM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Fatwah! versus Bull!

Who will win?

It's the Sword versus the Rock!

Also appearing the All Star Monster Truck Tour's Jihadi Jalopy and the Jody's MRAP Sex Machine!!!


I'm not sure if the folks at Epic Rap Battles have done an official Jesus vs. Muhammad (can't find one), but if not they should.
 
2014-08-19 10:08:26 AM  
He's considering going to northern Iraq, huh? I wonder how things would go if ISIS managed to off him. Would Baghdad become Constantinople II?
 
2014-08-19 10:09:06 AM  

texdent: Even the Pope is sick of their shiat.


Somes war IS the answer, hippies. It just depends on what the question is.

/ISIS is the best thing to happen to Iraqi national unity since, well, since ever. EVERYBODY hates those guys. If the new Iraqi government has a fraction of a brain, they can use power-sharing and money to get the non-crazy Sunnis back on board.
//The U.S. is providing pretty much exactly the right amount of support. Don't do it for them, or it won't last.
 
2014-08-19 10:09:16 AM  
To war! Leave none alive!
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2014-08-19 10:09:27 AM  

washington-babylon: What? You just expected a Jesuit pope to take the wholesale slaughter and abuse of one of the oldest christian communities in the world sitting down? It's about time people remembered that the whole passive "pacifist christian" movement is a very recent historical invention.


We all remember that Christians are just as violent as the folks they've pretended to castigate for religious intolerance. We haven't forgotten. We live in America, where we mouth "Christian nation" with one face while we maim, torture, murder, bomb, and destroy with the other as it suits our needs. We've spent decades watching so-called "God-fearing" people step over the poor to steal from the middle class so they could drop phat "holier than thou" donations to licentious prosperity gospel pundits and impress each other with their Mammon-driven piety.

Nobody's forgotten. It's just that we like our hypocrisy implicit and stylish. This? Not so much.
 
2014-08-19 10:10:21 AM  
Tonight we're gonna party
Like it's 1,095...
 
2014-08-19 10:11:00 AM  
I hate war, and I hate what it does to people- it's always the poor civilian farkers caught in the middle of shiat like this.  But rarely have I seen a group more worthy of absolute annihilation than these ISIS bastards.

Bring on the Mudhens, the Superbugs, the Spectres and the A-10s, and lay waste to those sick farks.  ALL of them.
 
2014-08-19 10:11:11 AM  

Brew78: But, but.. the CRUUUUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAADESSSSSSssssssssss!!1!!11!one!  Obviously his point is invalid!

To that, I say "Shut up, Susan." as Dr. Cox would.

Seriously, this IS the most despicably barbaric group this planet has seen in awhile.

I was about to liken the current situation to events in Cambodia, but I'm not sure if they ever beheaded children and mounted their heads on pikes as a means to intimidate their enemy.


I am not an expert on the Khmer Rouge by any means. But my recollection is that was more of a civil war of sorts -- an internal massacre of certain elements of the country by others. Far harder for an outside party to effectively intervene and create a long-term solution. With ISIS it seems clear that the vast majority of Iraqis, Sunnis, shiites, and Kurds alike, as well as the neighboring countries, would be happy to see ISIS destroyed. A little American military intervention actually has a chance to do some good in the region and, combined with humanitarian missions, might help our image a tiny, tiny amount.
 
2014-08-19 10:11:33 AM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: jso2897: Oh, cool. the Pope calling foe a Crusade.
This never ends badly.

Yep. It's amazing how an enlightened man of God can call for a crusade. He's gonna screw this up real bad if billions of Catholics suddenly believe it's God's will to go and slaughter first ISIS then their supporters then anyone who won't eat pork then Methodists...

Once you start justifying slaughter all you see is necks. Necks everywhere.


Rock and roll!
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2014-08-19 10:11:39 AM  
Asked if he approved of the unilateral American action on militants he said: 'In these cases, where there is an unjust aggression, I can only say that it is licit to stop the unjust aggressor.
'I underscore the verb "stop". I'm not saying "bomb" or "make war", just stop. And the means that can be used to stop them must be evaluated.


For those of you clutching a Bible in one hand and your throbbing war-on in the other, the Pope didn't just give us a license to kill.
 
2014-08-19 10:13:40 AM  
I like this Pope.
 
2014-08-19 10:14:06 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: If only we could install a dictator in Iraq that would hold the country together in a secular fashion and keep order and make the trains run on time...


This time, try to find one who doesn't constantly invade neighboring countries, willya?
 
2014-08-19 10:17:07 AM  
Let's do this!

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2014-08-19 10:17:34 AM  
GO! POPE! GO!
 
2014-08-19 10:19:47 AM  
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