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2014-08-18 05:38:41 PM
Could this have to do with poorer health care, lower standard of living, more uninsured and state governments that take adversarial relationship to helping the poor?

Nah, it's probably because of illegal immigration.
 
2014-08-18 06:00:43 PM
Good thing all our southern states expanded Medicaid then.
 
2014-08-18 06:03:04 PM
I bet this thread will have lots of folks who didn't read the article and doesn't know that the time period is for 1928 to 1951.
 
2014-08-18 06:11:11 PM

RexTalionis: I bet this thread will have lots of folks who didn't read the article and doesn't know that the time period is for 1928 to 1951.


*raises hand*

Heh.
 
2014-08-18 06:14:54 PM

RexTalionis: I bet this thread will have lots of folks who didn't read the article and doesn't know that the time period is for 1928 to 1951.


Well, it's still within the rules to bash the South with reckless abandon.
 
2014-08-18 06:37:11 PM
This is why Sherman had to use fire
 
2014-08-18 07:22:44 PM
Because Florida?
 
2014-08-18 07:39:48 PM

RexTalionis: I bet this thread will have lots of folks who didn't read the article and doesn't know that the time period is for 1928 to 1951.


I read it and my guess is that the factors in play then are the same today, including those delicate southern sensibilities
 
2014-08-18 08:39:36 PM
We have much securer northern border.
 
2014-08-18 08:42:01 PM
WTF am I supposed to learn from that chart.  Dark blue to light blue does not convey information.  Colors are not a unit of time.  I can guess or assume what it's supposed to mean based on the context but a chart should stand on its own and the viewer shouldn't need to guess what it means.
 
2014-08-18 08:43:41 PM

RexTalionis: I bet this thread will have lots of folks who didn't read the article and doesn't know that the time period is for 1928 to 1951.


Shh. That kindof logic would force us to actually think about the article instead of dropping in for a snark... Personally, I had to shift my entire strategy from snarking the article itself to snarking your particular reply... It's just unsettling.
 
2014-08-18 08:44:55 PM
Certainly couldn't be because of a warmer environment. Now that farkers can't be mysogybistic I'm sure there will be a rise on the other standard forms of unfounded vitriol on here.
 
2014-08-18 08:45:38 PM
jtown:  Colors are not a unit of time.

They can be.
 
2014-08-18 08:46:15 PM

Peter von Nostrand: RexTalionis: I bet this thread will have lots of folks who didn't read the article and doesn't know that the time period is for 1928 to 1951.

I read it and my guess is that the factors in play then are the same today, including those delicate southern sensibilities


You didn't read it well, then.
 
2014-08-18 08:46:20 PM
1951..
 
2014-08-18 08:48:46 PM
Damn Southerners, you lost the farker war! Get over it already;\.
 
2014-08-18 08:49:44 PM
And it's for the exact same reasons that hurricanes move from south to north.  It's true.
 
2014-08-18 08:49:54 PM

Mister Peejay: jtown:  Colors are not a unit of time.

They can be.


Eat enough 'shrooms and colors can be anythi... I've said too much
 
2014-08-18 08:50:01 PM
Migrant farm workers moving north as crops mature?
 
2014-08-18 08:50:23 PM
In contrast, polio and typhoid fever are typically spread through fecal-oral contact,

Maybe because they have half the number of cups as they do girls in the South?
 
2014-08-18 08:50:32 PM
this is obvious to anyone who has seen true blood.
 
2014-08-18 08:50:59 PM

Coming to infect the spawn of Northern Yankee traitors:


static.guim.co.uk

 
2014-08-18 08:51:20 PM
Warmer in the south. I imagine that helps in the breeding of bacteria. And hence, it's spread.

It gets warmer in the south sooner in the spring, so it makes sense an outbreak would happen sooner. Temperature differences being a cause would hold true for winter outbreaks as well. It doesn't get as cold, often not even below freezing for long stretches of time. Allowing for the bacteria and viruses to remain active, longer.

I'm not even an Internet scientist though, so everything I just said could be completely wrong.
 
2014-08-18 08:54:14 PM

RexTalionis: I bet this thread will have lots of folks who didn't read the article and doesn't know that the time period is for 1928 to 1951.


I honestly can't imagine things are much better today. It's just that with faster and far more frequent travel and interstate commerce, the diseases spread in a matter of hours or days rather than the weeks it took in TFA's reference.

Whenever southerners ask me why I'd live somewhere that has harsh winters, I always give the same response. Winter is great - it kills the bugs, kills the diseases, and keeps the southerners down south.
 
2014-08-18 08:55:14 PM
So don't accept blankets from southerners?
 
2014-08-18 08:59:59 PM
In Northern states, during the winter, social interaction can be more limited due to the weather, which can reduce the risk for disease transmission. This is one of the reasons that polio (which is spread through contact with droplets expelled by an infected person while sneezing or coughing) was considered a "summer disease". In the South, the milder winters do not impose those same kind of limits.

Also, the warmer temperatures in the south also provide a longer breeding season for mosquitoes, which are a vector for a number of diseases.
 
2014-08-18 09:02:07 PM
So do we blame brown people or rednecks?
 
2014-08-18 09:03:32 PM

clkeagle: Whenever southerners ask me why I'd live somewhere that has harsh winters, I always give the same response. Winter is great - it kills the bugs, kills the diseases, and keeps the southerners down south.


They probably say the same thing about us Northerners* ( regarding their hot & muggy Summer )

* Not sure if I count as a "Northerner", since I live in Oregon....near the coast....
 
2014-08-18 09:09:27 PM
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[Insert evil, maple-laced laugh]
 
2014-08-18 09:09:58 PM

Mister Peejay: jtown:  Colors are not a unit of time.

They can be.


If you know the right people
 
2014-08-18 09:10:24 PM

RexTalionis: I bet this thread will have lots of folks who didn't read the article and doesn't know that the time period is for 1928 to 1951.


Yeah. But it's happening again, right now, with Dengue Fever.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/pandemics/2012/12/d en gue_fever_in_united_states_breakbone_fever_outbreaks_florida_texas_and .html
 
2014-08-18 09:16:37 PM
Hey, we tried to leave.
 
2014-08-18 09:17:26 PM
So the answer is a permanent quarantine of the south?
 
2014-08-18 09:18:56 PM
I love to rip on the South as much as anyone, but I'd have to start with the assumption that most micro-organisms behind our diseases do better in warm, moist climates.
 
2014-08-18 09:21:51 PM
As opposed to abrasive jackasses, which move north to south? Also, it was the War of Northern Aggression.
 
2014-08-18 09:22:52 PM
Well bless your heart.
 
2014-08-18 09:32:36 PM
The south of anything is almost always worse than the north of anything.

South America is worse than North America
Southern US is worse than Northern US
Southern EU is worse than Northern EU
Southern Italy is worse than Northern Italy
South Shore Long Island is worse than North Shore LI

etc, etc
 
2014-08-18 09:33:58 PM
One more reason to create a human firebreak, across the southern states.

We might lose a few states, but on the bright side I figure the average IQ in the US would gain ~10 points...

/Drat!, we'd lose the Florida tag
//Oh well, can't do that...
 
2014-08-18 09:39:50 PM
Your children went ass to mouth. This is why you never let your children go ass to mouth.
 
2014-08-18 09:41:54 PM

NorthernMT: So the answer is a permanent quarantine of the south?


The South tried that already, but it didn't work out as planned. Thanks Lincoln!
 
2014-08-18 09:41:56 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Could this have to do with poorer health care, lower standard of living, more uninsured and state governments that take adversarial relationship to helping the poor?

Nah, it's probably because of illegal immigration.


By your argument itself, Mexico/Central america have shiattier health care and standard of living than us, so it's probably them originating the diseases.  The movement across the border doesn't have to be illegal, you realize there's loads of legitimate trade, yeah?

Though, that said, diseases originating in the tropical band then spreading north/south is probably older than the dinosaurs, just more bacteria/viruses there to work with.
 
2014-08-18 09:42:28 PM

sandreckoner: Peter von Nostrand: RexTalionis: I bet this thread will have lots of folks who didn't read the article and doesn't know that the time period is for 1928 to 1951.

I read it and my guess is that the factors in play then are the same today, including those delicate southern sensibilities

You didn't read it well, then.


I didn't say my conclusions were their conclusions
 
2014-08-18 09:43:56 PM

Jim_Callahan: Peter von Nostrand: Could this have to do with poorer health care, lower standard of living, more uninsured and state governments that take adversarial relationship to helping the poor?

Nah, it's probably because of illegal immigration.

By your argument itself, Mexico/Central america have shiattier health care and standard of living than us, so it's probably them originating the diseases.  The movement across the border doesn't have to be illegal, you realize there's loads of legitimate trade, yeah?

Though, that said, diseases originating in the tropical band then spreading north/south is probably older than the dinosaurs, just more bacteria/viruses there to work with.


Possibly. Yes. And true.
 
2014-08-18 09:45:47 PM

Dalrint: RexTalionis: I bet this thread will have lots of folks who didn't read the article and doesn't know that the time period is for 1928 to 1951.

Yeah. But it's happening again, right now, with Dengue Fever.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/pandemics/2012/12/d en gue_fever_in_united_states_breakbone_fever_outbreaks_florida_texas_and .html


OK, important safety tip: Stay away from Florida, Texas, and HTML.
 
2014-08-18 09:55:03 PM

fusillade762: So do we blame brown people or rednecks?


We blame rednecks, they blame brown people, the brown folks blame us. The aliens monitoring our species for signs that we're worthy of contact just shake whatever they use for heads.
 
2014-08-18 09:57:34 PM

LemSkroob: The south of anything is almost always worse than the north of anything.

South America is worse than North America
Southern US is worse than Northern US
Southern EU is worse than Northern EU
Southern Italy is worse than Northern Italy
South Shore Long Island is worse than North Shore LI

etc, etc


Southern Canada is better than northern Canada.
 
2014-08-18 09:58:40 PM
CDC headquarters is in Atlanta.  Furthermore, Atlanta is the setting of the walking dead series.  This is old news. * cough*
 
2014-08-18 09:59:38 PM

Lord Farkwad: NorthernMT: So the answer is a permanent quarantine of the south?

The South tried that already, but it didn't work out as planned. Thanks Lincoln!


I think the problem was they wanted to keep the productive members of society. If they had just given up that whole slavery thing the north may have let them go.
 
2014-08-18 10:00:07 PM
Well who the hell vacations with their family up north and brings diseases back south?
 
2014-08-18 10:00:34 PM

ginandbacon: Good thing all our southern states expanded Medicaid then.


Arkansas did. In spades 200k added to health insurance/ expanded medicaid. My below poverty friend has Blue cross shield card for first time since 70s when he used to work off shore as rough neck. He cried when viewing card first time- Former emergency room only.
 
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