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(Ottawa Citizen)   The reason medical marijuana is so effective in Canada? Average patient gets prescription for between 54 and 90 joints. Per day   (ottawacitizen.com) divider line 43
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2014-08-18 05:18:40 PM  
"Let me be clear: Health Canada does not endorse the use of marijuana, nor is it an approved drug in this country, nor has it gone through any of the clinical trials that other pharmaceutical products that are approved in this country have gone through,"

"clinical trials"  Yeah, right.
Jeezus, the conservative government needs to shut the f*ck up and quit embarrassing us with their ridiculous stance on marijuana.
 
2014-08-18 05:21:44 PM  
And why is this considered a "Geek" headline?
 
2014-08-18 05:53:23 PM  

Dumski: Jeezus, the conservative government needs to shut the f*ck up and quit embarrassing us with their ridiculous stance on marijuana.


For f*ck sake, this.


FTA:

"The majority of the physician community do not want to prescribe it, they don't want to be put in a situation where they're pressured to prescribe it and I encourage them to not prescribe it if they're not comfortable with it," she said.

The majority don't want to prescribe it? Really? What's your source on that?

Since when did doctor comfort trump prescribing an effective, ethical and appropriate treatment?

The Canadian Medical Association says doctors have been thrust into an "untenable" position by being made the sole gatekeepers to legal pot. Outgoing president Dr. Louis Hugo Francescutti recently suggested that people who seek the drug in a doctor's office are just looking for "dope."

So Dr. Louis Hugo Francescutti would apparently have us believe that the phenomenon of trying to acquire prescription medication that is not medically necessary is a new thing.

Ridiculous indeed.
 
2014-08-18 06:21:08 PM  
I don't know what the pharmaceutical industry is like in Canada but across the pond (wait, there's no pond, whatever), Big Pharma has a huge lobby and even though they put out drugs with a laundry list of side effects that almost always ends with "death", they're making politicians contend that weed is somehow worse than their shiat.

/doesn't toke weed
//has lot of friends who do and are more productive than my drunk ass
 
2014-08-18 08:08:42 PM  
Well is sounds like Big Pharma in Canada (eh) is distributing to dealers with those kinds of prescriptions.

/and here i am stuck with a cracked Liberty Bell
 
2014-08-18 08:11:20 PM  
"...Most people who self-medicate with pot prefer to smoke it."

[stoppedreadingrightthere.jpg]

That is absolutely false. Likely, they have no other option.
 
2014-08-18 08:13:28 PM  
yes big pharma would never want to distribute highly popular psychoactive chemicals like opiates, nicotine, amphetamines, caffiene, ok all the amines, ethanol, THC etc etc etc
 
2014-08-18 08:14:01 PM  
They roll joints for you too? Shiiiiiiiat.
 
2014-08-18 08:14:08 PM  
Dude, what?
 
2014-08-18 08:14:54 PM  
So, you're saying you really don't care if you're sick...thus your body stops being sick?

It was screwing with us the WHOLE time!!
 
2014-08-18 08:23:51 PM  
Who injects 90 marijuanas per day?
 
2014-08-18 08:33:44 PM  
My friends are both medical users.  She because she has MS and he because of wounds from in the army and severe arthritis.  I freakin get the munchies just from being near them they use so much,
 
2014-08-18 08:34:17 PM  
FTA: "we just don't feel comfortable with it."

And there's the real and only problem. Straight from the ass' mouth.

You're a farking doctor in a system built on science, not farking "comfortability." If you have a problem with its untested nature, test it. If you have a problem with the inhaled delivery system, develop a non-inhaled delivery system. But to deny people a chemical that makes living tolerable, much less enjoyable, simply because you "don't feel comfortable with it," is unconscionable. Especially for a doctor. Those millions you're putting into anti-pot campaigns, how many proper studies could those fund, thereby addressing and perhaps resolving your concerns?

/has never partaken
//may need to someday
///regardless, stupid objection is stupid
 
2014-08-18 08:41:12 PM  

foo monkey: Who injects 90 marijuanas per day?


i1.ytimg.com

too be fair, he was warned.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-08-18 08:41:40 PM  
Do they over proscribe  Vicodin in similar amounts?  Might attract Rush Limbaugh.
 
2014-08-18 08:45:24 PM  
the average amount of pot authorized by a doctor has fallen from 17 grams a day to four grams a day.

Holy balls.  Okay, subby might have been exaggerating a bit with the headline, but patients are down to over an eighth a day?  How do you function?
 
2014-08-18 09:12:14 PM  
blog.urbanoutfitters.com
 
2014-08-18 09:20:13 PM  
Smoke a monkey.
 
2014-08-18 09:27:16 PM  

timujin: the average amount of pot authorized by a doctor has fallen from 17 grams a day to four grams a day.

Holy balls.  Okay, subby might have been exaggerating a bit with the headline, but patients are down to over an eighth a day?  How do you function?


No kidding. 90 joints a day is one every 10-11 MINUTES from 6AM until 10PM. Holy fark!

/it's a nice touch that Health Canada pay for it, though *twothumbsup.jpg*
 
2014-08-18 09:55:17 PM  

foo monkey: Who injects 90 marijuanas per day?


Junkies, Bob. Junkies and hippies. And junkie hippies.
 
2014-08-18 09:56:54 PM  
www.classicautographics.com

"Honey, I'm taking the truck to go down and pick up my pot. Be back soon."
 
2014-08-18 11:30:24 PM  
Approves:

userserve-ak.last.fm
 
2014-08-18 11:32:10 PM  

foo monkey: Who injects 90 marijuanas per day?


No kidding, I've never injected more than 64 marijuanas in a single day. I might have done four or five more but I ran out of funyuns and didn't want to take the chance.
 
2014-08-19 12:04:20 AM  

Rev.K: Dumski: Jeezus, the conservative government needs to shut the f*ck up and quit embarrassing us with their ridiculous stance on marijuana.

For f*ck sake, this.


FTA:

"The majority of the physician community do not want to prescribe it, they don't want to be put in a situation where they're pressured to prescribe it and I encourage them to not prescribe it if they're not comfortable with it," she said.

The majority don't want to prescribe it? Really? What's your source on that?

Since when did doctor comfort trump prescribing an effective, ethical and appropriate treatment?

The Canadian Medical Association says doctors have been thrust into an "untenable" position by being made the sole gatekeepers to legal pot. Outgoing president Dr. Louis Hugo Francescutti recently suggested that people who seek the drug in a doctor's office are just looking for "dope."

So Dr. Louis Hugo Francescutti would apparently have us believe that the phenomenon of trying to acquire prescription medication that is not medically necessary is a new thing.

Ridiculous indeed.


Yeah, but if they include pharmaceutical reps in the "physician community" then we know exactly why they say this.
 
2014-08-19 12:56:22 AM  

foo monkey: Who injects 90 marijuanas per day?


Roll them for me and I will show you.
 
2014-08-19 02:01:49 AM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: "...Most people who self-medicate with pot prefer to smoke it."

[stoppedreadingrightthere.jpg]

That is absolutely false. Likely, they have no other option.


um
false again

cannabutter is ridiculously easy to make

cannabis vodka is equally easy to make
 
2014-08-19 02:04:56 AM  

namatad: Ow! That was my feelings!: "...Most people who self-medicate with pot prefer to smoke it."

[stoppedreadingrightthere.jpg]

That is absolutely false. Likely, they have no other option.

um
false again

cannabutter is ridiculously easy to make

cannabis vodka is equally easy to make


God, not only that, when you consume it, it's a completely different experience.

I prefer to ingest it.

Now, if he was to say, "Most people who self-medicate with pot only have access to the illegal bud instead of the semi to legal stuff so have no other choice but to smoke it," I'd agree with.
 
2014-08-19 02:30:41 AM  

namatad: Ow! That was my feelings!: "...Most people who self-medicate with pot prefer to smoke it."

[stoppedreadingrightthere.jpg]

That is absolutely false. Likely, they have no other option.

um
false again

cannabutter is ridiculously easy to make

cannabis vodka is equally easy to make


I know what it takes to make butter, I was taking issue with TFA's claim that most med patients prefer to smoke . That is false.
 
2014-08-19 02:53:21 AM  
I like pot. On the average, I smoke/vape/eat a little over 2 O's a week. High quality, locally grown KB. It helps that I work for myself in my own home. Also that all my conference calls are voice only, because my eyes are more red than something that's very red.

I like pot.
 
2014-08-19 03:38:06 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-08-19 06:00:12 AM  
 
2014-08-19 06:27:14 AM  
i only inject a few marijaunas a day and im ok.
 
2014-08-19 08:01:24 AM  
To put the prescribed amount in perspective, I believe that is the maximum allotted amount grown for you, and the drop from 17 grams to 4 is largely due to the change in how that whole situation works. Under the old system a licensed grower could maintain X  number of plants per patient per month (or something similar, it varied across provinces). That allowed for plant death and other factors so a patient was never left short. But largely they didn't use (or even receive) the full amount they potentially could. The grower was supposed to destroy the excess... of course I doubt that ever happened.
 
2014-08-19 08:11:20 AM  
"The last time I checked, smoking causes cancer and lung disease and I don't think there's anything magical about marijuana that gets rid of that," said outgoing CMA president and emergency physician Dr. Louis Hugo Francescutti.

I'm not a physician, but the last time *I* checked, there wasn't a single study linking marijuana smoking to either of these things. In fact possibly even the opposite, some studies suggest. No wonder this guy gets hate mail.
 
2014-08-19 08:42:23 AM  
I know some pretty big pot-heads and I don't think even they could smoke 90 marijuanas a day.
 
2014-08-19 08:49:36 AM  
Canadian government ditch weed has a reputation for terrible quality.
This is why the Harper government doesn't want patients growing their own , they might not be punished by having to choke down a thousand cubic meters of smoke when trying to get adequate relief.
 
2014-08-19 09:27:55 AM  

abhorrent1: I know some pretty big pot-heads and I don't think even they could smoke 90 marijuanas a day.


let's think about this for a minute.   If you didn't sleep and smoked 3 joints an hour every hour that would only get you to 75 joints per day.  Or 72 - whatever.

Let's say you sleep 7 hours a day - not an unreasonable amount of time to be sleeping.  To get to 90, you're going to have to smoke more than 5 marijuanas an hour.

I never timed how long it takes to smoke one marijuana, but to smoke more than 5 joints an hour I think you're pretty close to chain smoking the marijuanas.

If you smoke that much you really should consider what you're doing.  Either you're way too stoned or you are getting some really shiatty pot.

I woke up yesterday with a small nugget left - probably not even a half a gram.  I finished it off hours ago and I still have a buzz.  It was really good shiat.
 
2014-08-19 11:51:28 AM  

abhorrent1: I know some pretty big pot-heads and I don't think even they could smoke 90 marijuanas a day.


Challenge Accepted.
 
2014-08-19 01:51:38 PM  
Ah, for government-subsidized health care.
 
2014-08-19 02:31:18 PM  
I seem to recall the limit for MMJ in Colorado is two ounces ... PER DAY.  I don't think the limit is that high for legal recreational MJ though ...
 
2014-08-19 03:36:40 PM  

CodeMonkey4Life: Canadian government ditch weed has a reputation for terrible quality.
This is why the Harper government doesn't want patients growing their own , they might not be punished by having to choke down a thousand cubic meters of smoke when trying to get adequate relief.


Most of the people who get marijuana licenses get a grow license also as compassion clubs are still pretty thin on the ground and expensive. One guy I know has a personal grow license for 57 plants at any one time (!), and the quality is way, way, way better than the floor-sweepings-and-oregano blend the government tried to pass off as medicinal back when it was trying to produce the stuff. I think the government has gotten out of the grow business and has turned it over to individuals and private companies that are starting hydro grow ops in mines, abandoned factories and the like.
 
2014-08-19 03:49:42 PM  

Snowrise: CodeMonkey4Life: Canadian government ditch weed has a reputation for terrible quality.
This is why the Harper government doesn't want patients growing their own , they might not be punished by having to choke down a thousand cubic meters of smoke when trying to get adequate relief.

Most of the people who get marijuana licenses get a grow license also as compassion clubs are still pretty thin on the ground and expensive. One guy I know has a personal grow license for 57 plants at any one time (!), and the quality is way, way, way better than the floor-sweepings-and-oregano blend the government tried to pass off as medicinal back when it was trying to produce the stuff. I think the government has gotten out of the grow business and has turned it over to individuals and private companies that are starting hydro grow ops in mines, abandoned factories and the like.


I think that is what they are ending: you won't be able to grow your own, you will have to buy it from a "licensed producer"
 
2014-08-19 08:34:20 PM  

Stone Meadow: timujin: the average amount of pot authorized by a doctor has fallen from 17 grams a day to four grams a day.

Holy balls.  Okay, subby might have been exaggerating a bit with the headline, but patients are down to over an eighth a day?  How do you function?

No kidding. 90 joints a day is one every 10-11 MINUTES from 6AM until 10PM. Holy fark!

/it's a nice touch that Health Canada pay for it, though *twothumbsup.jpg*


All day, every day means you're not getting high.
 
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