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(Medical Xpress)   Drunk driving activists say changing DUI laws to the point that you can't drive after having a single beer with supper makes for safer roads, fewer drunk driving crashes   (medicalxpress.com) divider line 215
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2014-08-18 10:13:56 AM  
So:
"Journal reference: American Journal of Public Health "
But when I looked more closely:
http://medicalxpress.com/journals/american-journal-of-public-healt h
So, they reference their own website. I can trust that.

Farking abolitionists.
 
2014-08-18 10:23:35 AM  
The way I figure it is if I'm legally impaired after one, I might as well have 5.  The consequences are the same.
 
2014-08-18 10:55:27 AM  
Why do they hate restaurants?
 
2014-08-18 11:02:06 AM  
Drunk driving activists say changing DUI laws to the point that you can't drive after having have a single beer with supper makes for safer roads, fewer drunk driving crashes
 
2014-08-18 11:14:15 AM  

jasonvatch: So:
"Journal reference: American Journal of Public Health "
But when I looked more closely:
http://medicalxpress.com/journals/american-journal-of-public-healt h
So, they reference their own website. I can trust that.

Farking abolitionists.


The word your looking for is prohibitionists.
 
2014-08-18 11:32:30 AM  
Apparently, one is still OK, unless you're really skinny. Cute how http://www.brad21.org/bac_charts.html uses pink for the women's chart and blue for the men's.

img.fark.net

img.fark.net
 
2014-08-18 11:44:42 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: jasonvatch: So:
"Journal reference: American Journal of Public Health "
But when I looked more closely:
http://medicalxpress.com/journals/american-journal-of-public-healt h
So, they reference their own website. I can trust that.

Farking abolitionists.

The word your looking for is prohibitionists.


I stand (sit) corrected - I hate Mondays....
 
2014-08-18 11:52:57 AM  
Next up:

No driving after using mouthwash.
 
2014-08-18 11:59:37 AM  
Hell, I run a .05 stone sober
 
2014-08-18 01:01:13 PM  
Correllation, causation, blah blah, yadda yadda....
 
2014-08-18 01:02:06 PM  
Good think I only drunk at home.
 
2014-08-18 01:03:17 PM  
Drunk driving activists conjures up a picture of someone campaigning for the right to drive drunk.
 
2014-08-18 01:04:20 PM  
well to be fair if you lower the limit any more you can start to classify all accidents as alcohol related.  there would a skyrocketing number of "drunk" driving accidents then...
 
2014-08-18 01:04:33 PM  
... and this is what's killed the pub culture in the UK .

... along with the smoking ban.

... now people just buy 1$ beers and get absolutely loaded at home or in pedestrianized city centers on weekends.
 
2014-08-18 01:05:43 PM  
Same kind of logic MADD used to get the drinking age raised to 21. They would like it raised even higher,  to 25 or 30. Actually according to their own founder Candy Lightner (who has left the group) they have now become neo-prohibitionists:

It was reported in 2002 that she had stated that MADD had "...become far more neo-prohibitionist than I had ever wanted or envisioned... I started MADD to deal with the issue of drunk driving"
 
2014-08-18 01:05:44 PM  
.05?

They already have this bullshiat in Colorado. It's called "Driving while ability is impaired." MADD refers to it as one of their great legislative victories. We also have breweries on every other corner with parking lots.
 
2014-08-18 01:06:06 PM  
one big positive I see is that making the law 0.00 takes away a lot of the guess work involved in drunk driving.  You have to factor in height and weight and gender and genetic factors, along with timing and overall drinking experience and of course the two most important factors: drunk driving experience and ability to figure out where you parked your car the night before.

/doesn't drive impaired but was lucky to live through my 20's.
 
2014-08-18 01:06:32 PM  
"supper," subby? wtf are you--70-something??
 
2014-08-18 01:08:41 PM  

gabethegoat: "supper," subby? wtf are you--70-something??


so supper's right out.. but elevensies.. that's still happening right?
 
2014-08-18 01:08:42 PM  
in spite of all the damage they cause to people and property, drugs/alcohol is still, like, cool man.
 
2014-08-18 01:09:16 PM  

Linux_Yes: in spite of all the damage they cause to people and property, drugs/alcohol is still, like, cool man.


You say that like ambien is a bad thing.
 
2014-08-18 01:09:27 PM  

meat0918: Good think I only drunk at home.


I think you're drunk now.
 
2014-08-18 01:09:34 PM  

monoski: Drunk driving activists conjures up a picture of someone campaigning for the right to drive drunk.


So,
www.myhyena.com
 
2014-08-18 01:09:37 PM  
I recently got breathalyzed (passenger seat, probably should have put up a fight with the cops, but whatever).  I was noticeably a little drunk.  Also super tired, so maybe it was tough to figure out where I was at.

I blew a .031.  My takeaway was, "wow, you can be twice as drunk and still under the limit?  That's a little messed up."

Point is, don't drink and drive.
 
2014-08-18 01:10:39 PM  
I bought a BACtrack BAC meter.  Man is that an eye opener.  I've actually woken up after eight hours of sleeping at .08

/not proud
//just sayin'
 
2014-08-18 01:10:59 PM  

jasonvatch: So:
"Journal reference: American Journal of Public Health "
But when I looked more closely:
http://medicalxpress.com/journals/american-journal-of-public-healt h
So, they reference their own website. I can trust that.

Farking abolitionists.


Yeah, and that their page for the journal directly copies Wikipedia!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Journal_of_Public_Health

And, doesn't even bother copying the whole article. Just stops in the middle of a sentence.
 
2014-08-18 01:11:08 PM  

bikerbob59: meat0918: Good think I only drunk at home.

I think you're drunk now.


It's been a long time since I've been drunk.

It was rather unpleasant actually.
 
2014-08-18 01:11:17 PM  

monoski: Drunk driving activists conjures up a picture of someone campaigning for the right to drive drunk.


Agreed - wording is important.

Always bugs me when people say things like "I raised so much money for cancer!"
I'm like "WTF is wrong with you?  That's just sick!"
 
2014-08-18 01:11:35 PM  
I'll make a deal with them. Autonomous cars and we all get what we want.

No more drunks behind the wheel but plenty of people out drinking
 
2014-08-18 01:12:16 PM  
If you make pot legal then you have to fill the prisons somehow. Its either this or they make porn illegal. Make a choice.
 
2014-08-18 01:12:44 PM  

gabethegoat: "supper," subby? wtf are you--70-something??


1.bp.blogspot.com

DEEEYAD?  ARR YOU STAYIN' FER SUPPERR?
 
2014-08-18 01:13:01 PM  
I'm all for stricter drunk driving laws IF we start funding public transit to the point where it's a viable prion outside a few major cities.
Where I live, even getting a cab late at night is iffy. People have to drive or walk. Not surprisingly, we have a DUI problem.
 
2014-08-18 01:13:06 PM  
Supper?


www.totalprosports.com


/stay off the hwys after Packer games
 
2014-08-18 01:13:52 PM  
If I can get a DUI either way, may as well have drink four, five and six instead of stopping after three.  I'm really not noticeably more intoxicated, I just know that's when I cross .08
 
2014-08-18 01:15:12 PM  

blatz514: Supper?


[www.totalprosports.com image 422x281]


/stay off the hwys after Packer games


No shiat that.
 
2014-08-18 01:15:29 PM  

thamike: gabethegoat: "supper," subby? wtf are you--70-something??

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x471]

DEEEYAD?  ARR YOU STAYIN' FER SUPPERR?


Must be a Midwestern thing.

I call it supper, and sometimes even call lunch "dinner".  Confuses the hell out of my kids, but it's what my grandpa called lunch, and it's stuck with me.
 
2014-08-18 01:16:26 PM  
Not sure what a viable prion is. I meant "option".

Viable prions would frighten me.
 
2014-08-18 01:16:42 PM  
"Our findings add to the growing evidence that the new laws, although controversial to some, were associated with marked improvements in road safety," said lead author Jeffrey Brubacher, associate professor of Emergency Medicine at UBC


Wow, dude sounds like an ass.
 
2014-08-18 01:17:06 PM  

Dafatone: I recently got breathalyzed (passenger seat, probably should have put up a fight with the cops, but whatever).  I was noticeably a little drunk.  Also super tired, so maybe it was tough to figure out where I was at.

I blew a .031.  My takeaway was, "wow, you can be twice as drunk and still under the limit?  That's a little messed up."

Point is, don't drink and drive.


come on, .031 isn't even trying
 
2014-08-18 01:17:13 PM  
I'm not a fan of over-drinking.  Certainly not while driving.  But I understand that people will have cocktails dinner.
It seems that the real conservatives want to crack down to a point that ANY alcohol is too much.  But really, dinner drinkers are not the problem.

I have no stats to back this up, but I doubt that there is a very high percentage of people getting into deadly accidents immediately after dinner.  They really should be targeting people leaving bars late at night.
 
2014-08-18 01:17:41 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: jasonvatch: So:
"Journal reference: American Journal of Public Health "
But when I looked more closely:
http://medicalxpress.com/journals/american-journal-of-public-healt h
So, they reference their own website. I can trust that.

Farking abolitionists.

The word your looking for is prohibitionists.


The word you're looking for is you're
 
2014-08-18 01:18:20 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-08-18 01:18:23 PM  

El Dudereno: I'm all for stricter drunk driving laws IF we start funding public transit to the point where it's a viable prion outside a few major cities.
Where I live, even getting a cab late at night is iffy. People have to drive or walk. Not surprisingly, we have a DUI problem.


So you want everybody to pay more taxes for mass transit so you can get drunk away from home.

Cool
 
2014-08-18 01:18:36 PM  

bikerbob59: blatz514: Supper?


[www.totalprosports.com image 422x281]


/stay off the hwys after Packer games

No shiat that.


Packers win the Superbowl WOOOOOO!
 
2014-08-18 01:18:40 PM  
This is just dumb nanny-staterism.  I guarantee the average 55 year old woman in good health is more "impaired" than a 30 year old man with a BAC of 0.04.  Somebody with the sniffles is more imparied.  Somebody who is sad or didn't get a good night sleep is also more "impaired".
 
2014-08-18 01:19:11 PM  
The "think of the children" crowd rarely make the world better.

But they are God's gift to authoritarians, lawyers, jailers, etc.
 
2014-08-18 01:19:11 PM  
These people won't be happy until we're required by law to drive Knurd.

wiki.lspace.org

/Knows a thing or two
 
2014-08-18 01:20:20 PM  

MugzyBrown: El Dudereno: I'm all for stricter drunk driving laws IF we start funding public transit to the point where it's a viable prion outside a few major cities.
Where I live, even getting a cab late at night is iffy. People have to drive or walk. Not surprisingly, we have a DUI problem.

So you want everybody to pay more taxes for mass transit so you can get drunk away from home.

Cool


Well, there is that whole "having a mass transit system" part of the deal to consider.
 
2014-08-18 01:20:40 PM  
In Cali, if you get a DUI you can't have a drop of alcohol in your system while behind the wheel, for the entire length of your probation (2 years, i think).   In fact, you can't even be present at an establishment that mainly serves alcohol, such as a bar.

This was a law Swarzenegger signed into effect while he was gov'na.   I can attest, that it does really drive home the fact that driving is a privilege.  it actually trains you to adjust your life where you no longer drink and drive.... I went through it, and i'd never even consider drinking and driving, ever again.

I know one guy who was at home drinking, and the cops came to his door.   They prompted him to come outside, at which time he did, and they arrested him for public drunkedness.
 
2014-08-18 01:20:48 PM  
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I feel as if we've been here before.
 
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