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(Politico)   In the age of incumbency that we're currently in, do we *really* need those silly primary things? I mean we all know that they're gonna win reelection. Isn't that right, Mr. Cantor?   (politico.com) divider line 25
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2014-08-18 10:18:07 AM
In the age of gerrymandering, the primaries are the elections.  If anything, get rid of the general election.
 
2014-08-18 11:57:47 AM
"Age of incumbency?"
 
2014-08-18 12:00:18 PM
Not quite the stupidest thing written today, but certainly deserving of an honorable mention
 
2014-08-18 12:00:38 PM
I've come to the conclusion that one useless man is a disgrace,

That two become a lawfirm

And; that three, or more, become a congress!

/ stolen from the most obnoxious and disliked founding father

// Piddle, twiddle and resolve; nothing do we ever solve
 
2014-08-18 12:02:32 PM
FTFA: "Well, smartypants, riddle me this: If Congress is so unpopular, why do so many incumbents keep getting re-nominated and re-elected?"

Easy.  Everybody thinks their own senator/representative is not the problem.  It's everyone else's guy that's the problem.
 
2014-08-18 12:02:46 PM
Article sounds like it was written by someone with a vested interest in the establishment. Primaries the primary (ahem) vehicle by which insurgents can effect change against the establishment; see "Tea Party, the".
 
2014-08-18 12:05:59 PM
www.rawstory.com
 
2014-08-18 12:07:01 PM
States need to divest themselves of party electioneering. It would go a long way to eliminating entrenched parties and kingmakers.
 
2014-08-18 12:07:07 PM

HugsAndPuppies: FTFA: "Well, smartypants, riddle me this: If Congress is so unpopular, why do so many incumbents keep getting re-nominated and re-elected?"

Easy.  Everybody thinks their own senator/representative is not the problem.  It's everyone else's guy that's the problem.


Well, they are, what with all that pork and insiders and lobbying. The one I choose is the only honest one of 'em.
 
2014-08-18 12:15:52 PM

palelizard: HugsAndPuppies: FTFA: "Well, smartypants, riddle me this: If Congress is so unpopular, why do so many incumbents keep getting re-nominated and re-elected?"

Easy.  Everybody thinks their own senator/representative is not the problem.  It's everyone else's guy that's the problem.

Well, they are, what with all that pork and insiders and lobbying. The one I choose is the only honest one of 'em.


Nobody knows how to drive correctly except me!
 
2014-08-18 12:24:05 PM

dookdookdook: In the age of gerrymandering, the primaries are the elections.  If anything, get rid of the general election.


You must have been trying to have an even worse idea than the one in TFA. Kudos I guess.
 
2014-08-18 12:24:41 PM
Primaries are fine. what needs to go are elected school boards.
 
2014-08-18 12:27:41 PM

Biff_Steel: Primaries are fine. what needs to go are elected school boards.


If school board members are not elected, then by what effective means will parents communicate their desire for their children not to be taught actual science or history?
 
2014-08-18 12:36:47 PM
FTA: Well, smartypants, riddle me this:

professional journalism
 
2014-08-18 12:37:54 PM

stonicus: palelizard: HugsAndPuppies: FTFA: "Well, smartypants, riddle me this: If Congress is so unpopular, why do so many incumbents keep getting re-nominated and re-elected?"

Easy.  Everybody thinks their own senator/representative is not the problem.  It's everyone else's guy that's the problem.

Well, they are, what with all that pork and insiders and lobbying. The one I choose is the only honest one of 'em.

Nobody knows how to drive correctly except me!


Everyone faster than me is a gawddamn maniac, everyone slower is a farkin' idiot.
 
2014-08-18 01:34:51 PM

Biff_Steel: Primaries are fine. what needs to go are elected school boards.


And D.A.'s.
 
2014-08-18 02:21:41 PM

RadiomanATL: Biff_Steel: Primaries are fine. what needs to go are elected school boards.

And D.A.'s.


What about judges.  And remember, bribes are protected by the first amendment for elected officials.
 
2014-08-18 02:33:19 PM
The primary system is the republican (in the sense of elected representation, not the party) version of parliamentary coalitions, it allows minority factions to rally in a concentrated manner and get some representation while at least ostensibly leaving the larger factions mostly in control when the issue's not important enough to put out a big effort.

The Tea Party's sort of hacked the system by finding a group of people stupid enough that they can be trained to treat  every issue as high-priority, but in fairness the smaller voices having some pull and the parties having some diversity (like long-standing Democratic machine districts electing people that are D in name but ideologically closer to R and vice versa) is usually a relatively good thing for the party.

And in fairness to our system, it took about a century and a half longer for someone to work out how to hack it to put an extremist minority in de facto power than it did the parliamentary version.
 
2014-08-18 02:52:54 PM
A few sacrifices to maintain the status quo is to be expected and not to be considered concession.
 
2014-08-18 03:45:51 PM

Jim_Callahan: The primary system is the republican (in the sense of elected representation, not the party) version of parliamentary coalitions, it allows minority factions to rally in a concentrated manner and get some representation while at least ostensibly leaving the larger factions mostly in control when the issue's not important enough to put out a big effort.

The Tea Party's sort of hacked the system by finding a group of people stupid enough that they can be trained to treat  every issue as high-priority, but in fairness the smaller voices having some pull and the parties having some diversity (like long-standing Democratic machine districts electing people that are D in name but ideologically closer to R and vice versa) is usually a relatively good thing for the party.

And in fairness to our system, it took about a century and a half longer for someone to work out how to hack it to put an extremist minority in de facto power than it did the parliamentary version.

Not to mention that the method of said hacking pretty much required mass media that didn't exist for the parliamentary system.
 
2014-08-18 05:34:42 PM

Dimensio: Biff_Steel: Primaries are fine. what needs to go are elected school boards.

If school board members are not elected, then by what effective means will parents communicate their desire for their children not to be taught actual science or history?


I hear they think prayer is pretty effective.
 
2014-08-19 07:20:08 AM

HugsAndPuppies: FTFA: "Well, smartypants, riddle me this: If Congress is so unpopular, why do so many incumbents keep getting re-nominated and re-elected?"

Easy.  Everybody thinks their own senator/representative is not the problem.  It's everyone else's guy that's the problem.


If you continue reading the article, it points out that the average congressperson's approval rating from their own constituents is under 50%. So that doesn't really apply here.
 
2014-08-19 08:50:36 AM

HeartBurnKid: HugsAndPuppies: FTFA: "Well, smartypants, riddle me this: If Congress is so unpopular, why do so many incumbents keep getting re-nominated and re-elected?"

Easy.  Everybody thinks their own senator/representative is not the problem.  It's everyone else's guy that's the problem.

If you continue reading the article, it points out that the average congressperson's approval rating from their own constituents is under 50%. So that doesn't really apply here.


Only if you believe that an opinion poll has anything on Earth to do with the actual election, which it doesn't.  They go with the devil they know.  It's the political version of battered wife syndrome.
 
2014-08-19 07:42:53 PM

HugsAndPuppies: HeartBurnKid: HugsAndPuppies: FTFA: "Well, smartypants, riddle me this: If Congress is so unpopular, why do so many incumbents keep getting re-nominated and re-elected?"

Easy.  Everybody thinks their own senator/representative is not the problem.  It's everyone else's guy that's the problem.

If you continue reading the article, it points out that the average congressperson's approval rating from their own constituents is under 50%. So that doesn't really apply here.

Only if you believe that an opinion poll has anything on Earth to do with the actual election, which it doesn't.  They go with the devil they know.  It's the political version of battered wife syndrome.


Yes, I understand that, but it does indicate that at least a slim majority of Americans understand that their congresscritters are part of the problem.  Even if they do think the other guy would be worse.
 
2014-08-19 09:54:01 PM

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