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(Daily Mail)   Two girls received $47k in benefits after their father goes missing and is declared dead in 1994. 20-years later he is found alive. SSA: Uh about that money, we want it back   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 134
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2014-08-18 03:39:50 AM  
So the not-dead guy should have to repay it.

(Also, that is a beautiful little family in the black and white photo.  He must have been a real piece of shiat to leave those gorgeous girls.)
 
2014-08-18 05:22:36 AM  
His wife was hot, but did NOT age well. Looks like she's taking the bus back to Nutley.

(which is a CREEPY town, lived there for a year when I was a  kid)
 
2014-08-18 05:23:35 AM  
Fake.

No one would willingly go back to Ohio.
 
2014-08-18 05:24:43 AM  
I don't see why they would have to pay it back, as he was missing and unable to support them for all those years.
 
2014-08-18 05:25:14 AM  

granolasteak: So the not-dead guy should have to repay it.

(Also, that is a beautiful little family in the black and white photo.  He must have been a real piece of shiat to leave those gorgeous girls.)


So if they were ugly, you'd be o.k. with him leaving?

Also, I'll give you a tip. It's a Daily Mail article. AKA - Not real.
 
2014-08-18 05:29:29 AM  
Miller remarried after the disappearance of her first husband and is believed to have had another child, a son.

She's believed to have had another child? Is the reporter not sure? Is she not sure? This statement raises a lot of questions.
 
2014-08-18 05:34:10 AM  
First off, according to the article, he is still legally dead, sorry Feds. Second, the girls were not adults when the money came and so cannot be legally held responsible, again sorry Feds. The article is probably fake.
 
2014-08-18 05:39:16 AM  
Ok, so if the guy is really alive, deduct it from any SS that he would collect upon reaching pension age.
 
2014-08-18 05:47:03 AM  
So, they want it back... I want a nice big garage, 2 71" Chevy, short fleetside bed trucks in nice conditions and time to turn two, into one custom job ext cab that looks "factory".. and has all the comforts off AC etc of a C-10 and the time and energy/money to do all this within a year or two.

/NOT GONNA HAPPEN
//UNLESS I win the lottery, and I don't play...
 
2014-08-18 06:00:29 AM  
For everyone calling fake because its the daily fail

Also notes that they contacted the FBI and a hired a PI to find him. SSA is going broke due to alot of people drawing benefits that shouldn't be. Basically amounts to lazy farks double dipping on SSA disability and welfare cause they are to lazy to get a job.
 
2014-08-18 06:05:25 AM  
Well then make him pay for it. They did nothing wrong as far as they know.
 
2014-08-18 06:08:12 AM  

eas81: For everyone calling fake because its the daily fail

Also notes that they contacted the FBI and a hired a PI to find him. SSA is going broke due to alot of people drawing benefits that shouldn't be. Basically amounts to lazy farks double dipping on SSA disability and welfare cause they are to lazy to get a job.


The last part was not really meant for this case. What i was going after is that they are cracking down on misuse of SSA and forcing people to pay it back that defrauded the government.
 
2014-08-18 06:39:18 AM  
There are several reasons why socialism is not a great idea in the long run.
One of them is that citizens are repeatedly put in the position of appealing to the government to redress or prevent wrongs done to them by the gov't., because it has absolute power over big chunks of your life like health and life insurance.

Some politicians love the idea that you will be a gov't supplicant for your entire life.  If that's what you want, by all means vote for them.
 
2014-08-18 06:46:10 AM  

granolasteak: So the not-dead guy should have to repay it.


Done in one. Everyone else go home.
 
2014-08-18 06:48:19 AM  

eas81: eas81: For everyone calling fake because its the daily fail

Also notes that they contacted the FBI and a hired a PI to find him. SSA is going broke due to alot of people drawing benefits that shouldn't be. Basically amounts to lazy farks double dipping on SSA disability and welfare cause they are to lazy to get a job.

The last part was not really meant for this case. What i was going after is that they are cracking down on misuse of SSA and forcing people to pay it back that defrauded the government.


Which is why they need to go after the dad who was already a deadbeat.
 
2014-08-18 06:50:41 AM  

groppet: Well then make him pay for it. They did nothing wrong as far as they know.


They can't go after him; he's still legally dead.

...awkward.
 
2014-08-18 06:58:46 AM  

evilsofa: groppet: Well then make him pay for it. They did nothing wrong as far as they know.

They can't go after him; he's still legally dead.

...awkward.


I bet the dumbass is trying to collect his SS now that he is of age too, which is why he resurfaced in the first place. Ironic?
 
2014-08-18 07:02:51 AM  

evilsofa: groppet: Well then make him pay for it. They did nothing wrong as far as they know.

They can't go after him; he's still legally dead.

...awkward.


Well, since he's legally dead, we can do anything we like to the deadbeat...

/not really
//but quit leaching tax dollars
///make him pay it all back, plus interest
 
2014-08-18 07:06:40 AM  
the last thing they should do, though, is tell the SSA that they have explosives made in the USA and to come take the money....

... using the neighbor's unsecured wi-fi connection.
 
2014-08-18 07:14:32 AM  

Animatronik: There are several reasons why socialism is not a great idea in the long run.
One of them is that citizens are repeatedly put in the position of appealing to the government to redress or prevent wrongs done to them by the gov't., because it has absolute power over big chunks of your life like health and life insurance.

Some politicians love the idea that you will be a gov't supplicant for your entire life.  If that's what you want, by all means vote for them.


So instead we should let people starve in the streets or die of preventable diseases.
 
2014-08-18 07:22:54 AM  
FTA:

She has expressed sympathy for Donald Miller, describing him as a 'deadbeat dad' who ran away from the pressures of family and fatherhood.

Have I misunderstood the word "sympathy" all these years? That does not sound like sympathy, to me.
 
2014-08-18 07:24:16 AM  

TheRameres: FTA:

She has expressed sympathy for Donald Miller, describing him as a 'deadbeat dad' who ran away from the pressures of family and fatherhood.

Have I misunderstood the word "sympathy" all these years? That does not sound like sympathy, to me.


He doesn't sound deserving of an ounce of it.
 
2014-08-18 07:39:57 AM  

SDRR: evilsofa: groppet: Well then make him pay for it. They did nothing wrong as far as they know.

They can't go after him; he's still legally dead.

...awkward.

I bet the dumbass is trying to collect his SS now that he is of age too, which is why he resurfaced in the first place. Ironic?


How can he collect, he's dead?
 
2014-08-18 07:43:31 AM  

Krustofsky: eas81: eas81: For everyone calling fake because its the daily fail

Also notes that they contacted the FBI and a hired a PI to find him. SSA is going broke due to alot of people drawing benefits that shouldn't be. Basically amounts to lazy farks double dipping on SSA disability and welfare cause they are to lazy to get a job.

The last part was not really meant for this case. What i was going after is that they are cracking down on misuse of SSA and forcing people to pay it back that defrauded the government.

Which is why they need to go after the dad who was already a deadbeat.


They can't go after the father, according to Ohio he is dead and they won't over turn the ruling. You can't squeeze money out of a dead man, even one who is walking the streets.
 
2014-08-18 07:51:29 AM  

ongbok: Krustofsky: eas81: eas81: For everyone calling fake because its the daily fail

Also notes that they contacted the FBI and a hired a PI to find him. SSA is going broke due to alot of people drawing benefits that shouldn't be. Basically amounts to lazy farks double dipping on SSA disability and welfare cause they are to lazy to get a job.

The last part was not really meant for this case. What i was going after is that they are cracking down on misuse of SSA and forcing people to pay it back that defrauded the government.

Which is why they need to go after the dad who was already a deadbeat.

They can't go after the father, according to Ohio he is dead and they won't over turn the ruling. You can't squeeze money out of a dead man, even one who is walking the streets.


But what if you killed him? "Your Honor, I coud't possibly have murdered the alleged victim in this case. I have here an official Certificate of Death for him predating the supposed murder."
 
2014-08-18 07:54:36 AM  

robohobo: His wife was hot, but did NOT age well. Looks like she's taking the bus back to Nutley.

(which is a CREEPY town, lived there for a year when I was a  kid)


Look as good at 60-ish your wife will not.
.
People biatch if women go to extreme measures to look good at a 'more mature' stage of their life.  People sneer if women just age naturally.  Getting old and people suck.
 
2014-08-18 07:59:32 AM  

Egoy3k: Animatronik: There are several reasons why socialism is not a great idea in the long run.
One of them is that citizens are repeatedly put in the position of appealing to the government to redress or prevent wrongs done to them by the gov't., because it has absolute power over big chunks of your life like health and life insurance.

Some politicians love the idea that you will be a gov't supplicant for your entire life.  If that's what you want, by all means vote for them.

So instead we should let people starve in the streets or die of preventable diseases.


Everyone except you and the people you care about. When it hits close to home, then the crushing realization that if only people helped each other a little the burden could be lifted from the individual. Fortunately, they usually die off quietly and alone so as to not bother the bootstrappers.
 
2014-08-18 08:06:13 AM  
If the government refuses to reverse his death status, then following that ruling they should still be able to keep the money.  He is still officially declared dead.
 
2014-08-18 08:06:29 AM  

Animatronik: Some politicians love the idea that you will be a gov't supplicant for your entire life.


It's better than the alternative, which is profits-first corporations that care only about the bottom line next quarter and don't give 2 shiats about people at all.
 
2014-08-18 08:06:43 AM  
Simple:  The "dead" man's SS payments should be used to pay back the amount outstanding.
 
2014-08-18 08:07:27 AM  

Lukeonia1: Miller remarried after the disappearance of her first husband and is believed to have had another child, a son.

She's believed to have had another child? Is the reporter not sure? Is she not sure? This statement raises a lot of questions.


One of the funniest lines I've ever heard a comedian use is a woman (can't remember which one) saying something to the effect of "Yeah, I'm single.  No kids.  Well, none that I know about...."
 
2014-08-18 08:08:26 AM  

Egoy3k: Animatronik: There are several reasons why socialism is not a great idea in the long run.
One of them is that citizens are repeatedly put in the position of appealing to the government to redress or prevent wrongs done to them by the gov't., because it has absolute power over big chunks of your life like health and life insurance.

Some politicians love the idea that you will be a gov't supplicant for your entire life.  If that's what you want, by all means vote for them.

So instead we should let people starve in the streets or die of preventable diseases.


Ironically, conservatives are not very fiscally responsible. They'd rather spend $3 putting indigent people in jail and clearing their corpses off the streets than spend $1 providing a basic income and preventative care.

The way they see it, the $3 is being spent on their safety, whereas the $1 is "free handouts" to the poors. They can't seem to see that it's all coming out of the same wallet.
 
2014-08-18 08:14:35 AM  

robohobo: His wife was hot, but did NOT age well. Looks like she's taking the bus back to Nutley.

(which is a CREEPY town, lived there for a year when I was a  kid)


Yes, she did.  She aged pretty damn well.  I'd hit it:

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2014-08-18 08:18:39 AM  

brimed03: Egoy3k: Animatronik: There are several reasons why socialism is not a great idea in the long run.
One of them is that citizens are repeatedly put in the position of appealing to the government to redress or prevent wrongs done to them by the gov't., because it has absolute power over big chunks of your life like health and life insurance.

Some politicians love the idea that you will be a gov't supplicant for your entire life.  If that's what you want, by all means vote for them.

So instead we should let people starve in the streets or die of preventable diseases.

Ironically, conservatives are not very fiscally responsible. They'd rather spend $3 putting indigent people in jail and clearing their corpses off the streets than spend $1 providing a basic income and preventative care.

The way they see it, the $3 is being spent on their safety, whereas the $1 is "free handouts" to the poors. They can't seem to see that it's all coming out of the same wallet.


Just like healthcare.  They spout off at the drop of a hat about paying for someone else to get health care without even realizing that they already are paying for it every time they pay for their own healthcare.  It's like they think that sick people will check their account balance, realize they can't afford to get treatment and go quietly die in a ditch or something.  They would rather pay $40 for an aspirin at the hospital to cover the care of individuals who cannot afford it than help pay for basic care that would reduce the number of hospital stays and deaths and cost them a lot less.  They aren't so much interested in saving money as they are for sticking it to some undesirable.

They are old angry bitter farks and quite honestly I think we would be better off without them.
 
2014-08-18 08:18:42 AM  

evilsofa: groppet: Well then make him pay for it. They did nothing wrong as far as they know.

They can't go after him; he's still legally dead.

...awkward.


It just so happens that he is only LEGALLY dead. There's a big difference between legally dead and all dead. Legally dead is slightly alive.
 
2014-08-18 08:18:49 AM  

dittybopper: robohobo: His wife was hot, but did NOT age well. Looks like she's taking the bus back to Nutley.

(which is a CREEPY town, lived there for a year when I was a  kid)

Yes, she did.  She aged pretty damn well.  I'd hit it:

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x801]


She's looks like Deauxma. That's a good thing.
 
2014-08-18 08:19:07 AM  

Animatronik: Some politicians love the idea that you will be a gov't supplicant for your entire life.


And what they really love is the fact that the biggest supplicants are also the richest and pay the most.
 
2014-08-18 08:20:27 AM  

dittybopper: robohobo: His wife was hot, but did NOT age well. Looks like she's taking the bus back to Nutley.

(which is a CREEPY town, lived there for a year when I was a  kid)

Yes, she did.  She aged pretty damn well.  I'd hit it:

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x801]


My future self would be all over that tail.

/Copyright Facebook?? Nice.
 
2014-08-18 08:23:09 AM  
Captain America's mom didn't have to pay anything back.
 
2014-08-18 08:32:13 AM  

Cubs300: dittybopper: robohobo: His wife was hot, but did NOT age well. Looks like she's taking the bus back to Nutley.

(which is a CREEPY town, lived there for a year when I was a  kid)

Yes, she did.  She aged pretty damn well.  I'd hit it:

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x801]

She's looks like Deauxma. That's a good thing.


^5
 
2014-08-18 08:33:38 AM  
This happened to someone I know.  The difference was that instead of being dead, he merely did not know he had a child getting support in Ohio.  As soon as the child reached majority, Ohio court judged against him in absentia and tried to extradite him from another state.

He's been on the lam from the Ohio po-po for years now.  Every so often the local lawdogs toss him into deadbeat dad storage for a couple months. The govt basically wants him to pay ~$350k after penalties and interest for a kid he's never seen. He doesn't have the money, and he can't get it with the sheriff carting him away to jail every time he gets a job and doesn't pay up instantly.
 
2014-08-18 08:35:11 AM  

TK-593: evilsofa: groppet: Well then make him pay for it. They did nothing wrong as far as they know.

They can't go after him; he's still legally dead.

...awkward.

It just so happens that he is only LEGALLY dead. There's a big difference between legally dead and all dead. Legally dead is slightly alive.


media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com
 
2014-08-18 08:36:23 AM  

Animatronik: There are several reasons why socialism is not a great idea in the long run.
One of them is that citizens are repeatedly put in the position of appealing to the government to redress or prevent wrongs done to them by the gov't., because it has absolute power over big chunks of your life like health and life insurance.

Some politicians love the idea that you will be a gov't supplicant for your entire life.  If that's what you want, by all means vote for them.


Riiiiiiiiight.  And private insurance companies would NEVER fark you over to make a profit.
 
2014-08-18 08:40:27 AM  
So if the guy is dead, as the judge says, then doesn't he qualify for zombie status?  Also, you cannot charge, try or convict a dead guy for committing a crime such eating someone alive.   I wonder if he'll start a protest group claiming that zombie movies are degrading to zombies?
 
2014-08-18 08:40:45 AM  

robohobo: His wife was hot, but did NOT age well. Looks like she's taking the bus back to Nutley.

(which is a CREEPY town, lived there for a year when I was a  kid)


oh please she's fine. Just older.
 
2014-08-18 08:42:10 AM  

dittybopper: Lukeonia1: Miller remarried after the disappearance of her first husband and is believed to have had another child, a son.

She's believed to have had another child? Is the reporter not sure? Is she not sure? This statement raises a lot of questions.

One of the funniest lines I've ever heard a comedian use is a woman (can't remember which one) saying something to the effect of "Yeah, I'm single.  No kids.  Well, none that I know about...."


Carol Leifer (Jerry Seinfeld's ex-girlfriend).
 
2014-08-18 08:47:45 AM  

Lukeonia1: Miller remarried after the disappearance of her first husband and is believed to have had another child, a son.

She's believed to have had another child? Is the reporter not sure? Is she not sure? This statement raises a lot of questions.


This is like one of those passive-aggressive litigation admissions.

"On information and belief, the defendant is a natural person."
 
2014-08-18 08:50:04 AM  

ongbok: Krustofsky: eas81: eas81: For everyone calling fake because its the daily fail

Also notes that they contacted the FBI and a hired a PI to find him. SSA is going broke due to alot of people drawing benefits that shouldn't be. Basically amounts to lazy farks double dipping on SSA disability and welfare cause they are to lazy to get a job.

The last part was not really meant for this case. What i was going after is that they are cracking down on misuse of SSA and forcing people to pay it back that defrauded the government.

Which is why they need to go after the dad who was already a deadbeat.

They can't go after the father, according to Ohio he is dead and they won't over turn the ruling. You can't squeeze money out of a dead man, even one who is walking the streets.


And how do we really know she wasn't in on the scam?  I know couples who purposely do similar scams by telling the welfare office they are separated so they can collect extra support.  They just make sure the husband isn't home when any social workers pop in.  I know two couples who've pulled this, and they are my wife's family.  My wife is as disgusted as I am with their shenanigans.  Going for the fake death would be welfare gold, because it means they can't go after the father for child support.  However, the father being still alive, can still send support, bday gifts, Christmas gifts at his leisure.

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: But what if you killed him? "Your Honor, I coud't possibly have murdered the alleged victim in this case. I have here an official Certificate of Death for him predating the supposed murder."


But wouldn't stop the current state of things for them.

tuckeg: SDRR: 
I bet the dumbass is trying to collect his SS now that he is of age too, which is why he resurfaced in the first place. Ironic?

How can he collect, he's dead?


And which is why the idiot is trying to reverse his "death" now.
 
2014-08-18 09:00:30 AM  

TK-593


It just so happens that he is only LEGALLY dead. There's a big difference between legally dead and all dead. Legally dead is slightly alive.


You I like.

PS If you see him, please tell TK-421 to get back to his post.
 
2014-08-18 09:03:28 AM  
granolasteak:
(Also, that is a beautiful little family in the black and white photo.  He must have been a real piece of shiat to leave those gorgeous girls.)

Seriously.  Having a daughter is farking AWESOME.  Who would walk away from such a great thing?  Well, like you said a real piece of shiat.
 
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