namatad: enry: Isolated incident #104858.keeping count? LOL
muck1969: It's okay, that person's right to live is not n the Constitution. Because if there's anything that can stop an accidental discharge from killing someone is another accidental discharge. Guns everywhere without requiring training or certification makes our society safer as all gun owners always behave responsibly and act rationally.
Witty_Retort: FTFA: The gun accidentally discharged, and the bullet traveled across Helen's tourist-laden Main Street and struck the woman in the side.I was told that guns don't kill./gun owner for 31 years
IvanTheSilent: Don't know if it's been said yet, but you don't 'accidentally' fire your gun. You either discharge it with intent, or discharge it with negligence. Either way, it's a deliberate act.
Bit'O'Gristle: No need to label or take it to the extreme right of paranoid.
Zafoquat: The preamble supports a right to Pursue life.. does that include procuring sustenance? If so then my pursuit of happiness has TON of other implications, but that's for another topic...However, the Fourth Amendment is clearly not for hunting, survival, sports, personal protection, or recreation, it is to form a militia for to control a dissident and non-representative government. Did our forefathers expect you to still be able to hunt and provide food for your home, maybe even protect your home, state laws would certainly condone this interpretation, but it is not a 4A protected activity.Given that most of what people use a gun for is not 4A protected, I question its place in modern society. Let the few states that still have "frontier" land handle living in that area independently with state law and federal exclusions.I believe we should all know how to use guns, have access to them when needed for 4A reasons, and ideally never touch one outside the structured teaching environment. Ideally we should be able to live and die without ever needing to form a militia, and therefor never handle the weapons.Lets have an armory at the lowest levels of government we can, and keep every single firearm needed to arm the local area at that armory. Responsibility to secure of the armory, and any liability therein, should belong to the ENTIRE community. Federally require gun education for every citizen, and make harsh penalties for possession of a firearm outside the few federal exclusions or in the act of a organized militia 4A is protected, people know how to safely handle them, no one should ever have them in most circumstances allowing strict ass shiat punishments for possessing them. We can even figure out the complicated private ownership liability exchange issues, where people would want to own and maintain their own property, stored at the local armory.
mcsiegs: "Unfortunate" is when your pants split, you f*cking idiot. Your husband just offed someone out of stupidity and recklessness,
Itstoearly: Meanwhile, in 2012, 33,561 people died in automobile accidents (more than 91 people per day, or more than one person every 16 minutes), but no one on fark complains that private transportation should be outlawed.
Egoy3k: mcmnky: Any recommendations on a good gun safe?I have 4 rifles, 4 hand guns. Would like room for ammunition and other accessories.All the fire arms are locked in their individual cases. Figure it's time for the one big enclosure.If you plan to keep your ammunition in the same safe get one with a vent. A strict 'gun safe' may not be ventilated properly. I'm not supposed to keep my ammunition in the same place as my guns so I didn't bother.
enry: Isolated incident #104858.
Joe Blowme: Funny how constitutional rights work, huh?
dittybopper: doglover: dittybopper: not against the depredations of private actors.Tonight, you.[img.fark.net image 640x366]Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...
Publikwerks: Olo Manolo: The GA carry law changed absolutely nothing about the situation. The man could have legally carried there before the law, and he could still legally carry there after the law.That's not true - if the man had been visiting a bar(and since the police told the employees not to talk to the press, that seems likely) where he wouldn't have been able to carry before, had this been before the law change, he might have been unarmed and unable to therefor accidentally shoot the tourist.
doglover: Publikwerks: 99.999%, you'll have time to work the action.Have you ever used a semi-automatic handgun?
Olo Manolo: So in other words, somebody got shot and it had absolutely nothing to do with this law being passed?? "but,but, guns!""Man dies in car crash 3 days after eating ham sandwich. Ham sandwich under close investigation"
some_beer_drinker: Trailltrader: *Big sigh* (Insert my continuing rant as an NRA firearms instructor that 8 hours of minimum class room training, and 4 hours range time before you can carry a firearm either open OR concealed- and you have to renew every 4 to 6 years with your drivers license)Went to see "Expendables III" last week and I was so pissed off at Stallone for putting his finger on the trigger when he was not aiming at a bad guy.[img.fark.net image 850x645]yeah, this. you farking ignorant morans. disarm.
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