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(Atlanta Journal Constitution)   Step 1) Pass law allowing people to carry guns anywhere Step 2) ??? Step 3) Have a handgun misfire on a busy street, killing one   (ajc.com) divider line 370
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2014-08-17 06:46:48 PM  
Isolated incident #104858.
 
2014-08-17 06:48:00 PM  
I don't think it misfired. I think the owner of the handgun fired it, one must assume accidentally since he shot his own hand.

If we can find a way to outlaw stupid I'd be all for it.
 
2014-08-17 06:57:34 PM  
*Big sigh*  (Insert my continuing rant as an NRA firearms instructor that 8 hours of minimum class room training, and 4 hours range time before you can carry a firearm either open OR concealed- and you have to renew every 4 to 6 years with your drivers license)

Went to see "Expendables III" last week and I was so pissed off at Stallone for putting his finger on the trigger when he was not aiming at a bad guy.img.fark.net
 
2014-08-17 07:00:10 PM  
At least he's being charged with manslaughter.
 
2014-08-17 08:40:58 PM  
Sounds to me like there was no misfire, two people were hit with the same bullet and one died. The gun seemed to be operating perfectly.
 
2014-08-17 09:08:50 PM  
But everyone is polite
 
2014-08-17 10:12:39 PM  
Any recommendations on a good gun safe?

I have 4 rifles, 4 hand guns.  Would like room for ammunition and other accessories.

All the fire arms are locked in their individual cases.  Figure it's time for the one big enclosure.
 
2014-08-17 11:33:08 PM  
I'm pretty sure "busy streets" were among the places people were already allowed to carry prior to that law being passed. Thanks for playing though.
 
2014-08-18 12:23:21 AM  
So in other words, somebody got shot and it had absolutely nothing to do with this law being passed?? "but,but, guns!"


"Man dies in car crash 3 days after eating ham sandwich. Ham sandwich under close investigation"
 
2014-08-18 12:32:55 AM  
It's okay, that person's right to live is not n the Constitution.  Because if there's anything that can stop an accidental discharge from killing someone is another accidental discharge.  Guns everywhere without requiring training or certification makes our society safer as all gun owners always behave responsibly and act rationally.
 
2014-08-18 12:33:01 AM  

enry: Isolated incident #104858.


keeping count? LOL

at least the locals shot him down, saving the community from having to have a trial
right?
 
2014-08-18 12:36:54 AM  

Olo Manolo: So in other words, somebody got shot and it had absolutely nothing to do with this law being passed?? "but,but, guns!"
"Man dies in car crash 3 days after eating ham sandwich. Ham sandwich under close investigation"


Man is already illegal in most of the civilized world.
Well the Islamic part of it
 
2014-08-18 01:33:14 AM  
i5.photobucket.com
 
2014-08-18 02:00:00 AM  

Olo Manolo: So in other words, somebody got shot and it had absolutely nothing to do with this law being passed?? "but,but, guns!"


"Man dies in car crash 3 days after eating ham sandwich. Ham sandwich under close investigation"


I blame Big Pork
 
2014-08-18 04:27:33 AM  

namatad: enry: Isolated incident #104858.

keeping count? LOL



img.fark.net
 
2014-08-18 05:38:23 AM  
All BS... Never happened..

"We're sorry, our site is currently experiencing technical issues."

Nothing to see here.. move on.
 
2014-08-18 05:45:49 AM  

Trailltrader: *Big sigh*  (Insert my continuing rant as an NRA firearms instructor that 8 hours of minimum class room training, and 4 hours range time before you can carry a firearm either open OR concealed- and you have to renew every 4 to 6 years with your drivers license)

Went to see "Expendables III" last week and I was so pissed off at Stallone for putting his finger on the trigger when he was not aiming at a bad guy.[img.fark.net image 850x645]


yeah, this. you farking ignorant morans. disarm.
 
2014-08-18 05:46:59 AM  

some_beer_drinker: disarm.


No.
 
2014-08-18 05:47:18 AM  

some_beer_drinker: Trailltrader: *Big sigh*  (Insert my continuing rant as an NRA firearms instructor that 8 hours of minimum class room training, and 4 hours range time before you can carry a firearm either open OR concealed- and you have to renew every 4 to 6 years with your drivers license)

Went to see "Expendables III" last week and I was so pissed off at Stallone for putting his finger on the trigger when he was not aiming at a bad guy.[img.fark.net image 850x645]

yeah, this. you farking ignorant morans. disarm.


i dont see it doing you a lot of good...i mean look at Ferguson. go on, use the arms for resisting tyranny. that's what i thought. idiots.
 
2014-08-18 05:56:54 AM  
Well, they should have armed themselves if they were going to walk down the street with their friend.
 
2014-08-18 05:58:14 AM  
The chance of a modern firearm having a mechanical malfunction that causes a misfire is only slightly greater than the chances of your car starting itself and driving into a crowded playground.

The correct term for this situation is "negligent discharge" and it happens when you put your booger hook on the bang switch.
 
2014-08-18 06:00:03 AM  

Trailltrader: *Big sigh*  (Insert my continuing rant as an NRA firearms instructor that 8 hours of minimum class room training, and 4 hours range time before you can carry a firearm either open OR concealed- and you have to renew every 4 to 6 years with your drivers license)


I don't think any amount of classroom training is going to prevent people from thinking that carrying with a round in the chamber and the safety off is a good idea.

Much in the same way no amount of training will encourage people to not speed or use their blinkers. You just can't prevent stupid.
 
2014-08-18 06:04:07 AM  

SquiggsIN: some_beer_drinker: yeah, this. you farking ignorant morans. disarm.

I too, am disinclined to acquiesce to your request.


actually, that's so polite i might mistake you for a canadian. carry on, sir.
 
2014-08-18 06:10:47 AM  
Misfire?

"All I did was pull the trigger and then the gun misfired"

/subby is dumb
 
2014-08-18 06:16:46 AM  

GodComplex: carrying with a round in the chamber


Why would you carry a gun without a round in the chamber?
 
2014-08-18 06:18:13 AM  

GodComplex: I don't think any amount of classroom training is going to prevent people from thinking that carrying with a round in the chamber and the safety off is a good idea.


I've always wondered about this. If you carry a semi-auto wouldn't you want a round in the chamber? If you're carrying because you think, however remotely, that *oh fark* moment may happen do you really want to have to rack the slide?
 
2014-08-18 06:18:42 AM  

GodComplex: Trailltrader: *Big sigh*  (Insert my continuing rant as an NRA firearms instructor that 8 hours of minimum class room training, and 4 hours range time before you can carry a firearm either open OR concealed- and you have to renew every 4 to 6 years with your drivers license)

I don't think any amount of classroom training is going to prevent people from thinking that carrying with a round in the chamber and the safety off is a good idea.

Much in the same way no amount of training will encourage people to not speed or use their blinkers. You just can't prevent stupid.


Do you think a Glock should be carried with one n the pipe?
 
2014-08-18 06:19:07 AM  

kellyclan: The chance of a modern firearm having a mechanical malfunction that causes a misfire is only slightly greater than the chances of your car starting itself and driving into a crowded playground.

The correct term for this situation is "negligent discharge" and it happens when you put your booger hook on the bang switch.


Thank you.


Clearly, he was farking with his gun carelessly.
 
2014-08-18 06:19:17 AM  
Keeping a round in the chamber is dumb. You can justify it all you want, but 99.999%, you'll have time to work the action. And I have read about many accidental firings, including a state police officer up here in Maine. It's really not worth the time savings to keep one in the chamber.
 
2014-08-18 06:21:12 AM  

doglover: GodComplex: carrying with a round in the chamber

Why would you carry a gun without a round in the chamber?


I just got a lesson in brevity.
 
2014-08-18 06:23:29 AM  

Olo Manolo: So in other words, somebody got shot and it had absolutely nothing to do with this law being passed?? "but,but, guns!"


"Man dies in car crash 3 days after eating ham sandwich. Ham sandwich under close investigation"


If you are allowed to drive a car anywhere and people get run over in a church, isn't it a good idea to make sure cars stay on the road and drivers have adequate training and cars are made safer?
 
2014-08-18 06:24:53 AM  
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2014-08-18 06:25:53 AM  

muck1969: It's okay, that person's right to live is not n the Constitution.  Because if there's anything that can stop an accidental discharge from killing someone is another accidental discharge.  Guns everywhere without requiring training or certification makes our society safer as all gun owners always behave responsibly and act rationally.


Excuse me, "Life, liberty and the pursuit of property." It's the very first word in the Constitution of Rights.

Of course, the government ignores our right to pursue property, too, with all the taxes they make us illegally pay and sending in armed tax men to try to take away grazing land from an upstanding rancher who just found it laying around not being used. Heck, that seems like the very definition of pursuing property, but you don't see the "President" doing anything to respect that God-given right.
 
2014-08-18 06:25:55 AM  

Publikwerks: 99.999%, you'll have time to work the action.


Have you ever used a semi-automatic handgun?
 
2014-08-18 06:27:44 AM  

GodComplex: Trailltrader: *Big sigh*  (Insert my continuing rant as an NRA firearms instructor that 8 hours of minimum class room training, and 4 hours range time before you can carry a firearm either open OR concealed- and you have to renew every 4 to 6 years with your drivers license)

I don't think any amount of classroom training is going to prevent people from thinking that carrying with a round in the chamber and the safety off is a good idea.

Much in the same way no amount of training will encourage people to not speed or use their blinkers. You just can't prevent stupid.


Dude, you are going to get jumped on for this one. Just wait until "The Fark, Carry a Round In the Chamber" supporters read this. They may not really be called that, but goddamn they will viciously attack anybody who says that you shouldn't carry a round in the chamber almost as viciously as they will attack a person who supports some form of gun control.
 
2014-08-18 06:28:18 AM  

doglover: Publikwerks: 99.999%, you'll have time to work the action.

Have you ever used a semi-automatic handgun?


Nope. Semi shotgun and rifle, but never fired a semi handgun.
 
2014-08-18 06:29:21 AM  

enry: If you are allowed to drive a car anywhere and people get run over in a church, isn't it a good idea to make sure cars stay on the road and drivers have adequate training and cars are made safer?


If people getting run over in church is the standard we're going by, it's time to start regulating how trees fall.
 
2014-08-18 06:33:04 AM  

serial_crusher: I'm pretty sure "busy streets" were among the places people were already allowed to carry prior to that law being passed. Thanks for playing though.


Yeah the new law has jack shiat to do with this happening and more to do with an idiot who didn't properly handle his gun.

There was already a conceal/carry law in Georgia so he would have done this even under the old law, mentioning it just helps push that paper's agenda.
 
2014-08-18 06:33:25 AM  

enry: Olo Manolo: So in other words, somebody got shot and it had absolutely nothing to do with this law being passed?? "but,but, guns!"


"Man dies in car crash 3 days after eating ham sandwich. Ham sandwich under close investigation"

If you are allowed to drive a car anywhere and people get run over in a church, isn't it a good idea to make sure cars stay on the road and drivers have adequate training and cars are made safer?


Not a single thing you said has anything whatsoever to do with my statement.. I'm going to have to assume you intended to quote somebody else?? But just in case....

The GA carry law changed absolutely nothing about the situation. The man could have legally carried there before the law, and he could still legally carry there after the law.
 
2014-08-18 06:35:08 AM  

mdeesnuts: enry: If you are allowed to drive a car anywhere and people get run over in a church, isn't it a good idea to make sure cars stay on the road and drivers have adequate training and cars are made safer?

If people getting run over in church is the standard we're going by, it's time to start regulating how trees fall.


People are generally required to keep their trees pruned. They may fall during a storm but having them checked and removed before they fall can be beneficial.

Huh, a bit of forethought and preparation can prevent mistakes. Wonder if that can be applied elsewhere. Nah.
 
2014-08-18 06:35:21 AM  

enry: Olo Manolo: So in other words, somebody got shot and it had absolutely nothing to do with this law being passed?? "but,but, guns!"


"Man dies in car crash 3 days after eating ham sandwich. Ham sandwich under close investigation"

If you are allowed to drive a car anywhere and people get run over in a church, isn't it a good idea to make sure cars stay on the road and drivers have adequate training and cars are made safer?


Still has nothing to do with this law, under the old law he would have been carrying as well.
 
2014-08-18 06:36:16 AM  

Olo Manolo: The GA carry law changed absolutely nothing about the situation. The man could have legally carried there before the law, and he could still legally carry there after the law.


That's not true - if the man had been visiting a bar(and since the police told the employees not to talk to the press, that seems likely) where he wouldn't have been able to carry before, had this been before the law change, he might have been unarmed and unable to therefor accidentally shoot the tourist.
 
2014-08-18 06:36:32 AM  

mcmnky: Any recommendations on a good gun safe?

I have 4 rifles, 4 hand guns.  Would like room for ammunition and other accessories.

All the fire arms are locked in their individual cases.  Figure it's time for the one big enclosure.


not sure if serious but if so this is a really nice one. Parents have one similar  to it

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2014-08-18 06:38:09 AM  

enry: mdeesnuts: enry: If you are allowed to drive a car anywhere and people get run over in a church, isn't it a good idea to make sure cars stay on the road and drivers have adequate training and cars are made safer?

If people getting run over in church is the standard we're going by, it's time to start regulating how trees fall.

People are generally required to keep their trees pruned. They may fall during a storm but having them checked and removed before they fall can be beneficial.

Huh, a bit of forethought and preparation can prevent mistakes. Wonder if that can be applied elsewhere. Nah.


I'll defer to Ron White on this one, "You can't fix stupid"
 
2014-08-18 06:38:21 AM  
An idiot shot someone. Surely the cure for this problem is more idiots with firearms.
 
2014-08-18 06:38:59 AM  
Round in the chamber? Motherfarker, if you're not walking around with your weapon drawn and pointed at everything that moves, screaming at it, then you are UNPREPARED and deserve to lose everything you value and love. THEY'RE GOING TO GET YOU: BE EVER VIGILANT.
 
2014-08-18 06:39:01 AM  

doglover: Publikwerks: 99.999%, you'll have time to work the action.

Have you ever used a semi-automatic handgun?


"No but I saw a TV show where they did, so you can totally trust me"
 
2014-08-18 06:39:33 AM  
Farkers bringing up an anti-gun thread 3 or 4 times a days is like freepers starting abortion threads on Right Wing America.  They're always the same, the same comments over and over, no constructive discussion ever, all by the usual suspects.

It's the law of the land.  Move on.
 
2014-08-18 06:39:40 AM  

Publikwerks: doglover: Publikwerks: 99.999%, you'll have time to work the action.

Have you ever used a semi-automatic handgun?

Nope. Semi shotgun and rifle, but never fired a semi handgun.


Then you should know you don't have to work the action every ten seconds like in the movies.

Round in the chamber, finger off the trigger. It's called "Condition 1" by people who like to name things and it's the only way you should be carrying a loaded handgun.

Your weapons, and I include any weapons here, not just guns, should always be as close to ready to use as possible or you might as well not be carrying it. The samurai didn't invent a whole school of lightning fast sword techniques that start with the student seated uncomfortably and the blade in the scabbard because situations that call for violence are convenient and allow you time to prepare. If you ever need a weapon, a single second is no longer a small unit of time. Every fraction of a second you can save with preparation, you should do.

If you have a gun with no round in the chamber, your best be will be to throw it at their face, and hope they flinch.
 
2014-08-18 06:41:10 AM  

enry: People are generally required to keep their trees pruned. They may fall during a storm but having them checked and removed before they fall can be beneficial.


You in a circus? I haven't seen that kind of contortion since Ringling Bros. was in town.
 
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