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(Quartz)   One reason Discovery Channel sucks so bad? It cut ties with the BBC, which gave it all the great nature documentaries. So now we're left with Amish Mafia   (qz.com) divider line 72
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2014-08-17 06:36:46 PM  



From TFA:

Fake documentaries about fake mafias are the kinds of shows that Americans like to watch these days. Last year, Discovery delivered its best ratings since 2001.




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2014-08-17 06:49:45 PM  

jake_lex: From TFA:

Fake documentaries about fake mafias are the kinds of shows that Americans like to watch these days. Last year, Discovery delivered its best ratings since 2001.


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Yes, because profitability is more important than the reason that channel was launched in the first place.

I remember a stint (around 1999 IIRC) when they came out with the Discovery Civilization channel.  It had some fantastic programming on history and other humanities.  I left the country for 6 years and came back to fine it nowhere out of the hundreds of channels available.  I guess learning about other peoples isn't important to us a society.
 
2014-08-17 08:27:57 PM  

doyner: jake_lex: From TFA:

Fake documentaries about fake mafias are the kinds of shows that Americans like to watch these days. Last year, Discovery delivered its best ratings since 2001.


[img.fark.net image 300x242]

Yes, because profitability is more important than the reason that channel was launched in the first place.

I remember a stint (around 1999 IIRC) when they came out with the Discovery Civilization channel.  It had some fantastic programming on history and other humanities.  I left the country for 6 years and came back to fine it nowhere out of the hundreds of channels available.  I guess learning about other peoples isn't important to us a society.


Not when I can just watch contrived stupidity to make me feel better about my shiatty life. Civilization ain't going to crumble on its own, you know.
 
2014-08-17 09:11:07 PM  
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2014-08-17 09:50:44 PM  
Alan! Alan! Alan! Alan! Alan! Alan!...
 
2014-08-17 09:55:18 PM  
grasptheuniverse.com
 
2014-08-17 10:01:29 PM  
You and me, baby, ain't nothin' but mammals, so let's do it like they do... on the BBC! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! BBC 1, BBC 2, BBC 3, BBC, BBC 5, BBC 6, BBC 7, BBC heaven!
 
2014-08-17 10:01:43 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-08-17 10:15:09 PM  
Ain't the strong current of anti-intellectualism that has permeated this country since the early 1960s great?
 
2014-08-17 10:19:52 PM  
I managed to find this set of videos that I saw on the Discovery Channel back in the 90s. Good stuff.
 
2014-08-17 10:23:07 PM  
 
2014-08-17 10:57:16 PM  

theorellior: I managed to find this set of videos that I saw on the Discovery Channel back in the 90s. Good stuff.


Nice, thank you.
 
2014-08-17 11:01:10 PM  

jake_lex: From TFA:

Fake documentaries about fake mafias are the kinds of shows that Americans like to watch these days. Last year, Discovery delivered its best ratings since 2001.


[img.fark.net image 300x242]


I look at that differently. Maybe 2001 was when they stopped having good programming. Now they've found garbage that some people like more than their old garbage, but the ratings suggest that the big money is in the good stuff they used to have. But those ratings aren't kardashian ratings, so not good enough for the execs.
 
2014-08-17 11:03:19 PM  

theorellior: I managed to find this set of videos that I saw on the Discovery Channel back in the 90s. Good stuff.


Correct.  About as good as those types of shows ever got.

finnished: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FkmfmwKlQ


That takes me back..
 
2014-08-17 11:12:48 PM  

theorellior: I managed to find this set of videos that I saw on the Discovery Channel back in the 90s. Good stuff.


This is what the Discovery channel and TLC should go back to. I can't wait for this reality tv shiat to go away.

Unfortunately the majority of viewers are "people of walmart" type viewers and can't be bothered to stretch their fat little minds.
 
2014-08-17 11:13:55 PM  
It's almost like these 150 cable channels don't even have enough programming to fill 24 hours.
It seems like it's almost impossible for a cable network to go out of business.
 
2014-08-17 11:21:34 PM  

Begoggle: It's almost like these 150 cable channels don't even have enough programming to fill 24 hours.
It seems like it's almost impossible for a cable network to go out of business.


That stems from they way they flat out lie about the response rate of ads.
 
2014-08-17 11:32:47 PM  

doyner: jake_lex: From TFA:

Fake documentaries about fake mafias are the kinds of shows that Americans like to watch these days. Last year, Discovery delivered its best ratings since 2001.


[img.fark.net image 300x242]

Yes, because profitability is more important than the reason that channel was launched in the first place.

I remember a stint (around 1999 IIRC) when they came out with the Discovery Civilization channel.  It had some fantastic programming on history and other humanities.  I left the country for 6 years and came back to fine it nowhere out of the hundreds of channels available.  I guess learning about other peoples isn't important to us a society.


I miss Discovery Civilization, first they changed it to Investigation discovery for a few years then they just said fark it and folded it into the Discovery Science channel. I especially miss Digging for the Truth. It was like the only Archaeology show not hosted by a retarded farking loser crackpot.

/minored in Archeology
 
2014-08-17 11:34:35 PM  
There are two reasons for why they turned out the way they did.

1.) Ridiculous commercial breaks. I timed it once. You would watch the show for 5 minutes, then they'd spend two minutes telling you what they were going to talk about after the break, then a 5 minute commercial break, then a 2 minute recap of what they did before the break, then 5 minutes of material, and the farking cycle continued. You actually got something like 20 minutes of actual data in a 1-hour block. The rest was either commercials, the recaps or the teasers.

2.) Ice Road Truckers. This was spawned from a VERY cool special on the actual ice road truckers. It was awesome. It was also shot in their non-dramatic documentary style. It may not have been their first successful reality, but it was their first smash hit, and it spawned a whole shiatload of some of the most ridiculous reality TV, the "People Just Doing Their Jobs, But Sassed Up For Reality TV" format.

I don't think losing BBC did it, they did it to themselves, and the first bad thing was screwing you more than other networks on how much unique content you got from one of their specials. Now I won't even put the TV on Discovery. If I want something interesting and informative, it's Smithsonian Channel.
 
2014-08-17 11:46:10 PM  

Mikey1969: There are two reasons for why they turned out the way they did.

1.) Ridiculous commercial breaks. I timed it once. You would watch the show for 5 minutes, then they'd spend two minutes telling you what they were going to talk about after the break, then a 5 minute commercial break, then a 2 minute recap of what they did before the break, then 5 minutes of material, and the farking cycle continued. You actually got something like 20 minutes of actual data in a 1-hour block. The rest was either commercials, the recaps or the teasers.


It wasn't like that back in the '80s and '90s. Commercials were a minor interruption in the early days. The takeover of commercial breaks started later, after the network was already going downhill.

2.) Ice Road Truckers. This was spawned from a VERY cool special on the actual ice road truckers. It was awesome. It was also shot in their non-dramatic documentary style. It may not have been their first successful reality, but it was their first smash hit, and it spawned a whole shiatload of some of the most ridiculous reality TV, the "People Just Doing Their Jobs, But Sassed Up For Reality TV" format.

Ice Road Truckers was History Channel, not Discovery. Discovery had already descended into reality show hell with American Chopper several years before.
 
2014-08-17 11:53:59 PM  

doyner: I guess learning about other peoples isn't important to us a society.


That's all down to Anthony Boudain these days. We only know a culture by it's food, as is right.
 
2014-08-17 11:54:52 PM  
 
2014-08-18 12:01:42 AM  
I watch discovery science, but even that is going downhill. It's pretty awful on all of the discovery channels, but Amish Mafia made me rethink my stance regarding genocide being a bad thing.
 
2014-08-18 12:04:38 AM  
Discovery may as well be called The Reiteration Station.
 
2014-08-18 12:11:52 AM  
From a thread a couple days ago

Some of their shows had it going on 20 years ago.

Today it's all "The Science of Bigfoot"
 
2014-08-18 12:17:37 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Mikey1969: There are two reasons for why they turned out the way they did.

1.) Ridiculous commercial breaks. I timed it once. You would watch the show for 5 minutes, then they'd spend two minutes telling you what they were going to talk about after the break, then a 5 minute commercial break, then a 2 minute recap of what they did before the break, then 5 minutes of material, and the farking cycle continued. You actually got something like 20 minutes of actual data in a 1-hour block. The rest was either commercials, the recaps or the teasers.

It wasn't like that back in the '80s and '90s. Commercials were a minor interruption in the early days. The takeover of commercial breaks started later, after the network was already going downhill.

2.) Ice Road Truckers. This was spawned from a VERY cool special on the actual ice road truckers. It was awesome. It was also shot in their non-dramatic documentary style. It may not have been their first successful reality, but it was their first smash hit, and it spawned a whole shiatload of some of the most ridiculous reality TV, the "People Just Doing Their Jobs, But Sassed Up For Reality TV" format.

Ice Road Truckers was History Channel, not Discovery. Discovery had already descended into reality show hell with American Chopper several years before.


I was thinking that History was Spawn of Discovery.

History's almost gotten worse, since it's almost all speculative shiat like Ancient Aliens when it isn't shows about Hitler. The Ancient Aliens shiat wouldn't even be that bad if it were at least somewhat skeptical, I mean there isn't some proof that aliens didn't visit earth, but instead, they get all breathless like it is some kind of newly verified scientific data.

And the Hitler stuff, while cool and usually interesting, gets really old.

Discovery' long commercials are when I first noticed that it was starting to suck, the reality shiat just put the nails in the coffin.

And I'd forgotten about American Chopper, I think that was the first one where my wife and I picked up on the manufactured drama, and we never watched 5 minutes of it, we got all of that shiat that actually wouldn't create a successful business ever from the previews.

God, I hate all of those channels, they farked up a good thing.
 
2014-08-18 12:18:23 AM  

wildcardjack: doyner: I guess learning about other peoples isn't important to us a society.

That's all down to Anthony Boudain these days. We only know a culture by it's food, as is right.


CSB:  He was the guest speaker at an event in March for which I was his handler.  As a joke, I left him a package of instant mac & cheese, a can of tuna, and a bottle of Sriracha.  Before the "show," Ottavia outed him by telling me and Mrs. doyner that he actually ate it.  Bonus: there was no microwave in the room, he used lukewarm tapwater.

Culture indeed  ;-)

/CSB
 
2014-08-18 12:33:21 AM  

doyner: wildcardjack: doyner: I guess learning about other peoples isn't important to us a society.

That's all down to Anthony Boudain these days. We only know a culture by it's food, as is right.

CSB:  He was the guest speaker at an event in March for which I was his handler.  As a joke, I left him a package of instant mac & cheese, a can of tuna, and a bottle of Sriracha.  Before the "show," Ottavia outed him by telling me and Mrs. doyner that he actually ate it.  Bonus: there was no microwave in the room, he used lukewarm tapwater.

Culture indeed  ;-)

/CSB


Mac or Easy Mac? Easy Mac, like ramen, can be cooked with hot water, like I bet he got from the in-room coffee maker.  The rest writes itself.
 
2014-08-18 12:38:48 AM  

studebaker hoch: From a thread a couple days ago

Some of their shows had it going on 20 years ago.

Today it's all "The Science of Bigfoot"


I didn't see anything pseudoscientific in that. I couldn't totally crank the volume, as the wife is sleeping, but it seemed to just be a clip about going to space.
 
2014-08-18 12:49:10 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Mikey1969: There are two reasons for why they turned out the way they did.

1.) Ridiculous commercial breaks. I timed it once. You would watch the show for 5 minutes, then they'd spend two minutes telling you what they were going to talk about after the break, then a 5 minute commercial break, then a 2 minute recap of what they did before the break, then 5 minutes of material, and the farking cycle continued. You actually got something like 20 minutes of actual data in a 1-hour block. The rest was either commercials, the recaps or the teasers.

It wasn't like that back in the '80s and '90s. Commercials were a minor interruption in the early days. The takeover of commercial breaks started later, after the network was already going downhill.

2.) Ice Road Truckers. This was spawned from a VERY cool special on the actual ice road truckers. It was awesome. It was also shot in their non-dramatic documentary style. It may not have been their first successful reality, but it was their first smash hit, and it spawned a whole shiatload of some of the most ridiculous reality TV, the "People Just Doing Their Jobs, But Sassed Up For Reality TV" format.

Ice Road Truckers was History Channel, not Discovery. Discovery had already descended into reality show hell with American Chopper several years before.


Hey! when American Chopper first started it was great. It was almost all about the actual building of the bikes which was pretty interesting. It was later when they deciding to inject forced drama where it went downhill. I remember Mythbusters almost went down the same path. Adam did a interview where he said back in the Baghdad Battery myth it was producers that told the build team to hook up the electric fence charger instead of the batteries to shock Adam.  They got super pissed at the producer and told them NOPE.AVI which ended with the producer getting fired and leting Mythbusters do their own thing from then on.
 
2014-08-18 12:49:45 AM  

finnished: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FkmfmwKlQ


I vaguely remember that one. It's kinda fun. I think it's cool when you can age something because it has ties to a specific time in history. I went through the whole soda cam thing, you had to dort them out of your aluminum. At roughly the same time, they were experimenting with a replacement for the pull tad, so they tried different variations on the pop top we use now, even trying out one with a separate place on the other side of the Top, with a button that would allow airflow in and make the soda gurgle less. You could use it for shotgunning beers, I guess... Anyway, these both lasted maybe 2 or 3 years, and overlapped by a small margin, yet I found a Pepsi can in the ceiling of a project we were doing which had an old steel can, but with the new pop top. You can almost pinpoint the 6 month period, just like some of these old website commercials.
 
2014-08-18 12:58:29 AM  

delciotto: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Mikey1969: There are two reasons for why they turned out the way they did.

1.) Ridiculous commercial breaks. I timed it once. You would watch the show for 5 minutes, then they'd spend two minutes telling you what they were going to talk about after the break, then a 5 minute commercial break, then a 2 minute recap of what they did before the break, then 5 minutes of material, and the farking cycle continued. You actually got something like 20 minutes of actual data in a 1-hour block. The rest was either commercials, the recaps or the teasers.

It wasn't like that back in the '80s and '90s. Commercials were a minor interruption in the early days. The takeover of commercial breaks started later, after the network was already going downhill.

2.) Ice Road Truckers. This was spawned from a VERY cool special on the actual ice road truckers. It was awesome. It was also shot in their non-dramatic documentary style. It may not have been their first successful reality, but it was their first smash hit, and it spawned a whole shiatload of some of the most ridiculous reality TV, the "People Just Doing Their Jobs, But Sassed Up For Reality TV" format.

Ice Road Truckers was History Channel, not Discovery. Discovery had already descended into reality show hell with American Chopper several years before.

Hey! when American Chopper first started it was great. It was almost all about the actual building of the bikes which was pretty interesting. It was later when they deciding to inject forced drama where it went downhill. I remember Mythbusters almost went down the same path. Adam did a interview where he said back in the Baghdad Battery myth it was producers that told the build team to hook up the electric fence charger instead of the batteries to shock Adam.  They got super pissed at the producer and told them NOPE.AVI which ended with the producer getting fired and leting Mythbusters do their own thing from then on.


Instead, Mythbusters farked it up on their own, either doing incomplete testing, "busting" things like beer goggles that are completely subjective and different for every person, or setting it with the intent to bust or verify a myth, and you can see it in the testing.

I think the real thing that turned me off was when they started doing "movie myths" and recreating stuff in commercials that was obvious CGI.

They still have some very well done segments, the one that comes immediately to mind was the one where they tested improved has mileage by following a semi and taking real time readings from the computer.

The flip side of that was when they tested red light/speeding camera cheaters, by bringing in RedFlex, a company that 75% of Arizona already knew was a completely dishonest shiat hole. WTF would you bring in the company that had been making into the papers for a year or so at that point because of their underhanded bullshiat.
 
2014-08-18 01:02:46 AM  

Mikey1969: studebaker hoch: From a thread a couple days ago

Some of their shows had it going on 20 years ago.

Today it's all "The Science of Bigfoot"

I didn't see anything pseudoscientific in that. I couldn't totally crank the volume, as the wife is sleeping, but it seemed to just be a clip about going to space.


My point being that Discovery was a lot better 20 years ago when that commercial aired.
 
2014-08-18 01:05:32 AM  
And yeah it needed to be played on a decent club sound system, that baseline just got better and better.
 
2014-08-18 01:06:20 AM  

Mikey1969: delciotto: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Mikey1969: There are two reasons for why they turned out the way they did.

1.) Ridiculous commercial breaks. I timed it once. You would watch the show for 5 minutes, then they'd spend two minutes telling you what they were going to talk about after the break, then a 5 minute commercial break, then a 2 minute recap of what they did before the break, then 5 minutes of material, and the farking cycle continued. You actually got something like 20 minutes of actual data in a 1-hour block. The rest was either commercials, the recaps or the teasers.

It wasn't like that back in the '80s and '90s. Commercials were a minor interruption in the early days. The takeover of commercial breaks started later, after the network was already going downhill.

2.) Ice Road Truckers. This was spawned from a VERY cool special on the actual ice road truckers. It was awesome. It was also shot in their non-dramatic documentary style. It may not have been their first successful reality, but it was their first smash hit, and it spawned a whole shiatload of some of the most ridiculous reality TV, the "People Just Doing Their Jobs, But Sassed Up For Reality TV" format.

Ice Road Truckers was History Channel, not Discovery. Discovery had already descended into reality show hell with American Chopper several years before.

Hey! when American Chopper first started it was great. It was almost all about the actual building of the bikes which was pretty interesting. It was later when they deciding to inject forced drama where it went downhill. I remember Mythbusters almost went down the same path. Adam did a interview where he said back in the Baghdad Battery myth it was producers that told the build team to hook up the electric fence charger instead of the batteries to shock Adam.  They got super pissed at the producer and told them NOPE.AVI which ended with the producer getting fired and leting Mythbusters do their own thing from then on.

Instead, Mythbusters fark ...


Well they sometimes film parts of episode over a year before they air so the redlight camera episode could of been filmed before shiat came out about them in the media. Also if you want some non-network filtered Adam and some Jamie Tested.com has a lot of stuff from them. Adam's costumes are farking great.
 
2014-08-18 01:11:15 AM  

wildcardjack: doyner: wildcardjack: doyner: I guess learning about other peoples isn't important to us a society.

That's all down to Anthony Boudain these days. We only know a culture by it's food, as is right.

CSB:  He was the guest speaker at an event in March for which I was his handler.  As a joke, I left him a package of instant mac & cheese, a can of tuna, and a bottle of Sriracha.  Before the "show," Ottavia outed him by telling me and Mrs. doyner that he actually ate it.  Bonus: there was no microwave in the room, he used lukewarm tapwater.

Culture indeed  ;-)

/CSB

Mac or Easy Mac? Easy Mac, like ramen, can be cooked with hot water, like I bet he got from the in-room coffee maker.  The rest writes itself.


Easymac, but still...
 
2014-08-18 03:01:36 AM  
What does Dirty Jobs have to do with Animals?
/I find myself watching more and more of the ID channel
 
2014-08-18 03:06:19 AM  

doyner: Yes, because profitability is more important than the reason that channel was launched in the first place.


The exclusive contract with the local government requires a fixed amount of educational TV.  This was how Ted Turner managed to get exclusive contracts in so many places as he promised educational shows.  The interesting thing is this now means the exclusive contract clause is no longer valid and other cable TV companies can compete in many cities and towns.   Assuming there was any competition.
 
2014-08-18 04:51:33 AM  

SquiggsIN: I guess what pisses me off the most is that you have to pay for the 3rd/4th tier packages before you get ANY stations that aren't 100% drool content.

I'd watch ID if it weren't wall to wall cop/crime shows.  I just have no interest in such things.
These days I seem to be happy when Science channel has something decent on or when H2 (Ancient Aliens Network?) has something that isn't completely unrelated to history.  Can anyone explain to me how anything with the term "paranormal" in the description gets on a network at all?  Who the fark watches this stupid shiat?


I liked the "mystery" shows that they used to run years back. Arthur C. Clarke's Mysterious World, History's Mysteries, Is It Real?, stuff like that. The difference between those shows and the stuff that stars the ALIENS! Meme Guy is that those shows actually took a skeptical view and tried to actually examine the real evidence instead of just throwing shiat at the wall and seeing what sticks. Paranormal documentaries can be really fun and interesting; it's cool to think about how much we still don't know about the world around us. But they're very much a dessert topic for an educational channel, not something that should make up the bulk of the programming.
 
2014-08-18 06:11:39 AM  

SquiggsIN: About Mythbusters, that show was great despite all of its flaws.  They do have some neat episodes and even some decent science on a few but, that vast majority of their "scientific method" involves ignored variables and massive assumption.  I wouldn't use it as a teaching tool.

I'm also confused at the rebranding of the Military network as American Heroes Channel.


Lol... yes. I was flipping through channels last week and noticed AHC was running some old rehashed documentaries about ancient Egypt for two days straight. Wasn't quite sure what the idea there was.
 
2014-08-18 06:19:13 AM  
Well, at the least, I've been finding documentaries on Netflix, so at least the role Discovery once served is still being taken care of.
 
2014-08-18 06:25:30 AM  

devine: theorellior: I managed to find this set of videos that I saw on the Discovery Channel back in the 90s. Good stuff.

This is what the Discovery channel and TLC should go back to. I can't wait for this reality tv shiat to go away.

Unfortunately the majority of viewers are "people of walmart" type viewers and can't be bothered to stretch their fat little minds.


The thing is, as you've noted, the people who are left watching are the ones who wouldn't watch intelligent programming. And every year, people who want something other than lowest common denominator crap cut the cord/throw away their dish, and so to keep ratings up, every channel has to start showing the same shiat every other channel shows.

We're watching the slow, sad decline of television. It will only get worse.
 
2014-08-18 06:49:31 AM  

picturescrazy: But those ratings aren't kardashian ratings, so not good enough for the execsshareholders.


FTFY. Part of the problem is your mutual fund wanting something profitable to invest in so that you can have a retirement fund. Public ownership often imposes odd incentives, particularly if the company follows Jack Welch's dictum that a publicly owned company is to be managed solely to provide return on investment to the shareholders.
 
2014-08-18 07:13:47 AM  

Begoggle: It's almost like these 150 cable channels don't even have enough programming to fill 24 hours.
It seems like it's almost impossible for a cable network to go out of business.


If we could get a la carte cable/satellite subscriptions I believe that would take care of a lot of the dreck that is out there.
 
2014-08-18 07:51:20 AM  
The BBC isn't immune to this, unfortunately.
 
2014-08-18 08:06:20 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Ain't the strong current of anti-intellectualism that has permeated this country since the early 1960s great?


Here's the really interesting thing. At one end of the room, we have rabid anti-intellectualism.
At the other end, we have geek chic and the rise of the nerd. Somehow, we have it both ways.
 
2014-08-18 08:29:46 AM  

asquian: devine: theorellior: I managed to find this set of videos that I saw on the Discovery Channel back in the 90s. Good stuff.

This is what the Discovery channel and TLC should go back to. I can't wait for this reality tv shiat to go away.

Unfortunately the majority of viewers are "people of walmart" type viewers and can't be bothered to stretch their fat little minds.

The thing is, as you've noted, the people who are left watching are the ones who wouldn't watch intelligent programming. And every year, people who want something other than lowest common denominator crap cut the cord/throw away their dish, and so to keep ratings up, every channel has to start showing the same shiat every other channel shows.

We're watching the slow, sad decline of television. It will only get worse.


upload.wikimedia.org
Well before my time, but apparently we were warned.
 
2014-08-18 08:45:27 AM  
I tried getting interested in "Shark Week", but it seemed like every goddamn show was "OMG--SHARKS ARE GOING TO KILL US ALL!!!".  Then I read that they've put out more than one "mockumentary" rather than, you know, something with facts.

I just can't fathom how people can be so comfortable with being stupid.
 
2014-08-18 08:48:03 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Ain't the strong current of anti-intellectualism that has permeated this country since the early 1960s great?


But you can't have a beer with intellectuals! They don't talk about reality TV, or guns, or sports, or how God has performed miracles through the power of prayer...sorry, stopping here, can't keep this charade up.
 
2014-08-18 10:29:12 AM  

doyner: wildcardjack: doyner: wildcardjack: doyner: I guess learning about other peoples isn't important to us a society.

That's all down to Anthony Boudain these days. We only know a culture by it's food, as is right.

CSB:  He was the guest speaker at an event in March for which I was his handler.  As a joke, I left him a package of instant mac & cheese, a can of tuna, and a bottle of Sriracha.  Before the "show," Ottavia outed him by telling me and Mrs. doyner that he actually ate it.  Bonus: there was no microwave in the room, he used lukewarm tapwater.

Culture indeed  ;-)

/CSB

Mac or Easy Mac? Easy Mac, like ramen, can be cooked with hot water, like I bet he got from the in-room coffee maker.  The rest writes itself.

Easymac, but still...


See, to me, this story just affirms how awesome he is.  What? He can't eat shiatty food? He was 'outed'? fark off.

/you don't know what he had in his luggage either
 
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