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2014-08-17 10:51:53 PM  
This is EXACTLY what I expect the head of an internet porn pirating empire to look like.

static.guim.co.uk
 
2014-08-17 11:38:02 PM  

dookdookdook: This is EXACTLY what I expect the head of an internet porn pirating empire to look like.

[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]


almost a billionaire
frozen assets
successfully blocked extradition to CorporateAmerica

at least while he was flying high, he was living large
too bad he wasnt smart enough to cash in soon enough and hide his money in multiple accounts under multiple names
etc etc etc
 
2014-08-18 12:15:51 AM  
Because someone who renames himself "dotcom" and bases his business model on skirting copyright is "sane". The only thing that makes this guy different from any other legitimate internet businessman is he happens to speak English instead of Russian.
 
2014-08-18 12:16:31 AM  
The Corporate Congress is not amused by his shennanigans.
 
2014-08-18 12:17:42 AM  
If we didn't have piracy, we probably wouldn't have all those hilarious bootleg video games floating around, and I don't want to imagine a world without those.
 
2014-08-18 12:27:38 AM  
Cross posted to the Geek AND Politics Tabs? Don't see that very often.
 
2014-08-18 12:37:47 AM  
Personally, I LOVE imposing insane things on entire planets. Especially planets like this one. I mean, screw this planet. It's maybe the fifth lousiest planet in the galaxy. Other planets don't even have fat assholes like this.
Trust me, when I was oppressing planets under Xenu, well, I've said too much...
 
2014-08-18 12:38:34 AM  
site-macgasm.s3.amazonaws.com

He's friend with the Woz, so yo know he's a good guy, right?
 
2014-08-18 12:55:51 AM  

nytmare: Because someone who renames himself "dotcom" and bases his business model on skirting copyright is "sane". The only thing that makes this guy different from any other legitimate internet businessman is he happens to speak English instead of Russian.


You mean the guy who hosted a site that let you store and share large files? That's not skirting copyright, no matter how your users decide to use it, so long as youcomply with takedown requests, which they did. Do you really want to go down the road of websites being liable for the actions of their users if they don't check everything first before it is uploaded or posted?
 
2014-08-18 12:59:32 AM  

namatad: hide his money in multiple accounts under multiple names


Should've learned from his users
 
2014-08-18 01:08:29 AM  
Copyright laws are insane right up until you have something you want to copyright.
 
2014-08-18 01:13:44 AM  

Pichu0102: nytmare: Because someone who renames himself "dotcom" and bases his business model on skirting copyright is "sane". The only thing that makes this guy different from any other legitimate internet businessman is he happens to speak English instead of Russian.

You mean the guy who hosted a site that let you store and share large files? That's not skirting copyright, no matter how your users decide to use it, so long as youcomply with takedown requests, which they did. Do you really want to go down the road of websites being liable for the actions of their users if they don't check everything first before it is uploaded or posted?


Didn't they already put that in place or was that the one that got squashed? SOPApilla
II believe it was called.
 
2014-08-18 01:15:53 AM  
Insane copyright laws, really subby?

You mean the parts where the US government protects private property from thievery?
 
2014-08-18 01:16:48 AM  

Aeonite: Copyright laws are insane right up until you have something you want to copyright.


Modern IP law is a load of shiat in general.
 
2014-08-18 01:17:49 AM  

jmr61: Insane copyright laws, really subby?

You mean the parts where the US government protects private property from thievery?


You just failed twice in the same sentence.
 
2014-08-18 01:19:46 AM  
Oh come on, we are surrounded by many  life threatening dangers. When asteroid is going to strike soon nothing we will be to do. Besides. Here is a list of things you need to worry about:

1- eruption of Yellowstone supervolcanoe. The thing is in due  next eruption.

2- Tsunamis.  Remember 2004 tsunami and how many people it killed.

3-  Epidemics . 1918 flu, Black Death

4- Hurricanes, Typhoons
 
2014-08-18 01:24:06 AM  
That's one of the few pictures of Kim dotcom where it appears he's capable of wiping himself. A lot of you seem to have issues with that.
 
2014-08-18 01:26:10 AM  

jmr61: Insane copyright laws, really subby?

You mean the parts where the US government protects private property from thievery?


You know it is really cute the way you allow other people to do your thinking for you.  Never change.
 
2014-08-18 01:29:35 AM  
The Internet Party? Really? He couldn't think up a better name than that? It's like the Pirate Party, for people too uncool for the Pirate Party. Plus, while the Internet Party boasts Kim Dotcom, the Pirate Party has Ancilla Tilia.
 
2014-08-18 01:31:47 AM  

Warmnight: Oh come on, we are surrounded by many  life threatening dangers. When asteroid is going to strike soon nothing we will be to do. Besides. Here is a list of things you need to worry about:

1- eruption of Yellowstone supervolcanoe. The thing is in due  next eruption.

2- Tsunamis.  Remember 2004 tsunami and how many people it killed.

3-  Epidemics . 1918 flu, Black Death

4- Hurricanes, Typhoons


ebola is a bit more likely than those
 
2014-08-18 01:33:29 AM  
i57.tinypic.com
 
2014-08-18 01:48:23 AM  

mjjt: [i57.tinypic.com image 800x825]


seriously - AUTOPLAY the movie FTW
roll the fbi shiat at the end ... we'll watch it ... really ...

so farking sad how much control the studios THINK that they have ...
 
2014-08-18 01:49:30 AM  

Warmnight: Oh come on, we are surrounded by many  life threatening dangers. When asteroid is going to strike soon nothing we will be to do. Besides. Here is a list of things you need to worry about:

1- eruption of Yellowstone supervolcanoe. The thing is in due  next eruption.

2- Tsunamis.  Remember 2004 tsunami and how many people it killed.

3-  Epidemics . 1918 flu, Black Death

4- Hurricanes, Typhoons


5- Next Ice Age is over due.

6- giant meteor of death
 
2014-08-18 02:07:22 AM  
I posted in wrong thread
 
2014-08-18 02:12:01 AM  

mjjt: [i57.tinypic.com image 800x825]


Exactly this. I've spent the better part of tonight torrenting season 5 of Archer because inexplicably it isn't on Netflix. It's takes literally 1 minute to download an episode, but I'd still rather watch it on Netflix if it was an option.
 
2014-08-18 02:41:43 AM  

dookdookdook: This is EXACTLY what I expect the head of an internet porn pirating empire to look like.

[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]


You are exactly what a pawn in the machine looks like.

So sad for you.
 
2014-08-18 02:43:17 AM  

Mantour: [site-macgasm.s3.amazonaws.com image 640x517]

He's friend with the Woz, so yo know he's a good guy, right?


They mated and we got Quentin Tarantino.

So they can't be all bad.
 
2014-08-18 02:47:45 AM  

jmr61: Insane copyright laws, really subby?

You mean the parts where the US government protects private property from thievery?


You realise your laws say he could serve the rest of his life in prison for running a file-sharing website.

If you dont think that is insane then go seek help.
 
2014-08-18 02:48:00 AM  

namatad: dookdookdook: This is EXACTLY what I expect the head of an internet porn pirating empire to look like.

[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

almost a billionaire
frozen assets
successfully blocked extradition to CorporateAmerica

at least while he was flying high, he was living large
too bad he wasnt smart enough to cash in soon enough and hide his money in multiple accounts under multiple names
etc etc etc


Well, he's dumping a decent wad of cash on the New Zealand elections, enough to perhaps flip everything around.
 
2014-08-18 02:48:29 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: dookdookdook: This is EXACTLY what I expect the head of an internet porn pirating empire to look like.

[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

You are exactly what a pawn in the machine looks like.

So sad for you.


Just out of curiosity, exactly which unwarranted, probably incorrect conclusions about me did you jump to based on the fact that I called a fat creepy guy fat and creepy?  Because it's a little hard to tell from your post.
 
2014-08-18 02:50:26 AM  

gaspode: jmr61: Insane copyright laws, really subby?

You mean the parts where the US government protects private property from thievery?

You realise your laws say he could serve the rest of his life in prison for running a file-sharing website.

If you dont think that is insane then go seek help.


Had a thread the other day where everyone defended a guy getting thrown in jail for 5 years for stealing $4.  Welcome to 'Murica.
 
2014-08-18 03:07:43 AM  

jmr61: Insane copyright laws, really subby?

You mean the parts where the US government protects private property from thievery?


Except the copyright laws where changed from a reasonable length of time to roughly forever minus a day.
 
2014-08-18 03:19:07 AM  

OgreMagi: jmr61: Insane copyright laws, really subby?

You mean the parts where the US government protects private property from thievery?

Except the copyright laws where changed from a reasonable length of time to roughly forever minus a day.


I blame Disney.
 
2014-08-18 03:20:18 AM  

LectertheChef: The Internet Party? Really? He couldn't think up a better name than that? It's like the Pirate Party, for people too uncool for the Pirate Party. Plus, while the Internet Party boasts Kim Dotcom, the Pirate Party has Ancilla Tilia.


Cooler or less cool than the Masturbation Party?
 
2014-08-18 04:28:27 AM  

fusillade762: Cooler or less cool than the Masturbation Party?


Their politics rub me the wrong way.
 
2014-08-18 04:31:28 AM  
Let me point out that while this asshole is revered as some sort of hero amongst copyright infriners, he is a convicted criminal who swindled investors out of their money before that and he's also a cracker - as in a hacker, but the evil kind.

He will fark you up the ass as quickly as he can unzip your trousers.

fark.kim.com

/sadly, that's probably a site - no, I'm not gonna check it out.
 
2014-08-18 05:11:28 AM  

gfid: Let me point out that while this asshole is revered as some sort of hero amongst copyright infriners, he is a convicted criminal who swindled investors out of their money before that and he's also a cracker - as in a hacker, but the evil kind.

He will fark you up the ass as quickly as he can unzip your trousers.

fark.kim.com

/sadly, that's probably a site - no, I'm not gonna check it out.


Corporate America wont have sex with you. It will probably fark you in the ass at some point in your life, but there will be no cuddling afterwards.
 
2014-08-18 05:20:38 AM  

Pichu0102: You mean the guy who hosted a site that let you store and share large files? That's not skirting copyright, no matter how your users decide to use it, so long as youcomply with takedown requests, which they did. Do you really want to go down the road of websites being liable for the actions of their users if they don't check everything first before it is uploaded or posted?


A place to store and share large files, lets just think about that for a while. What kind of files would that include.  Movies, episodes of TV shows, computer software, video games, entire collections of music, hmm, lets see, yep, that about covers it. Weird, but all those are covered by copyright.

Over 25,000 terabytes of data, 50 million visitors per day, did he think all that came from people uploading home videos and backing up their tax returns? He knew full well what kind of files his site was being used for. To say that he wasn't aware or responsible for it is as ridiculous as mobsters/Mafia types claiming all their businesses are "legitimate".
 
2014-08-18 05:22:05 AM  

Aeonite: Copyright laws are insane right up until you have something you want to copyright.


70 years after the death of the author is not insane?
 
2014-08-18 05:23:04 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: namatad: dookdookdook: This is EXACTLY what I expect the head of an internet porn pirating empire to look like.

[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

almost a billionaire
frozen assets
successfully blocked extradition to CorporateAmerica

at least while he was flying high, he was living large
too bad he wasnt smart enough to cash in soon enough and hide his money in multiple accounts under multiple names
etc etc etc

Well, he's dumping a decent wad of cash on the New Zealand elections, enough to perhaps flip everything around.


It it helps National to lose the next election, I'll take it.
 
2014-08-18 05:23:24 AM  

Warmnight: I posted in wrong thread


I disagree. It works better here than in the other thread.

/For those that are curious
//http://www.fark.com/comments/8377697/No-an-asteroid-is-not-going-t o-wi pe-out-Earth-in-2880-EVERYBODY-RELAX
///Third slashie, because.
 
2014-08-18 05:26:48 AM  

namatad: 5- Next Ice Age is over due.


July 15, 2016. They already have a release date, now just to see if they can think of any new material for it.
 
2014-08-18 05:41:04 AM  

ReapTheChaos: Pichu0102: You mean the guy who hosted a site that let you store and share large files? That's not skirting copyright, no matter how your users decide to use it, so long as youcomply with takedown requests, which they did. Do you really want to go down the road of websites being liable for the actions of their users if they don't check everything first before it is uploaded or posted?

A place to store and share large files, lets just think about that for a while. What kind of files would that include.  Movies, episodes of TV shows, computer software, video games, entire collections of music, hmm, lets see, yep, that about covers it. Weird, but all those are covered by copyright.

Over 25,000 terabytes of data, 50 million visitors per day, did he think all that came from people uploading home videos and backing up their tax returns? He knew full well what kind of files his site was being used for. To say that he wasn't aware or responsible for it is as ridiculous as mobsters/Mafia types claiming all their businesses are "legitimate".


That's where you went from rational to loony toons.

He set up a service for storing and sharing files, and abided by rules set forth(ie takedown notices).

If you can prove that he uploaded movies himself, and shared them...you may have a case.

Until then:
If one is to follow your logic through, and a thing should be shut down because it facilitates copying, one could move that we shut down the internet and computers altogether.  No more printers/scanners.  No cameras.  Go back to the stone age.  And even then you'd have to hang all scribes or at least make them into protected slaves so that no one has access.  Make reading and education of that sort illegal.

You know, the world was actually like that at one point, and you are representing the argument that moves back into that direction.  It's not a reduction to absurdity or any such thing, it's merely literal truth.  You are either stupid, ignorant, or disengenuous.  In other words, you are why Poe's Law absolutely thrives on the internet.
 
2014-08-18 06:14:56 AM  

jmr61: Insane copyright laws, really subby?

You mean the parts where the US government protects private property from thievery?


And Blby protecting private propriety you mean enforcing scarcity regulations
 
2014-08-18 06:59:28 AM  

ReapTheChaos: Pichu0102: You mean the guy who hosted a site that let you store and share large files? That's not skirting copyright, no matter how your users decide to use it, so long as youcomply with takedown requests, which they did. Do you really want to go down the road of websites being liable for the actions of their users if they don't check everything first before it is uploaded or posted?

A place to store and share large files, lets just think about that for a while. What kind of files would that include.  Movies, episodes of TV shows, computer software, video games, entire collections of music, hmm, lets see, yep, that about covers it. Weird, but all those are covered by copyright.

Over 25,000 terabytes of data, 50 million visitors per day, did he think all that came from people uploading home videos and backing up their tax returns? He knew full well what kind of files his site was being used for. To say that he wasn't aware or responsible for it is as ridiculous as mobsters/Mafia types claiming all their businesses are "legitimate".


You do realise that the Internet is a global thing that has no shortage of people willing to give away their stuff for free including "large" things like games and music right? Because it looks like you live in the MPRAIAA fantasy land where no person ever made anything without getting a big ass pile of money first.
 
2014-08-18 07:06:44 AM  
I have zero doubt he knew the site would be and was used extensively for copyright infringement, and made money from that fact. Google also knew their site would be and is used for that and uneqivocally makes money from it.

Both Mega-upload and Google take down content on notices.

For some odd reason (*coughrichamericanswithconnections*) no-one has tried to put Google execs in jail for the rest of their lives.
 
2014-08-18 07:17:16 AM  

Warmnight: Oh come on, we are surrounded by many  life threatening dangers. When asteroid is going to strike soon nothing we will be to do. Besides. Here is a list of things you need to worry about:

1- eruption of Yellowstone supervolcanoe. The thing is in due  next eruption.

2- Tsunamis.  Remember 2004 tsunami and how many people it killed.

3-  Epidemics . 1918 flu, Black Death

4- Hurricanes, Typhoons


Cats and dogs living together

Republicans and Democrats coming together

Pure pandemonium
 
2014-08-18 07:27:35 AM  

Aeonite: Copyright laws are insane right up until you have something you want to copyright.


Authors life plus 70 years seems an unnecessarily long time.  I can agree that the copyright should last minimum of the author's life and maybe the 20 years after death so his children can benefit.  The copyright lasting 70 years means people/organizations who the author never knew or intended to benefit from the work are leaching off his fame.
 
2014-08-18 07:29:00 AM  

gaspode: I have zero doubt he knew the site would be and was used extensively for copyright infringement, and made money from that fact. Google also knew their site would be and is used for that and uneqivocally makes money from it.

Both Mega-upload and Google take down content on notices.

For some odd reason (*coughrichamericanswithconnections*) no-one has tried to put Google execs in jail for the rest of their lives.


From what i know on the subject (which may be very little) Mr kim here announced a month or so before the FBi takedown that he and his people were working on a service that would work in tandem with Megaupload for artists to upload their music onto the site and for users to purchase and download that music at a minimal price with no record label companies acting as middle men whatsoever, and we all know how middle men like that sort of thing...
 
2014-08-18 07:43:05 AM  
Can we all at least agree that lengthy jail sentences and massive international extradition efforts are wildly inappropriate for this kind of thing? Does ANYONE here disagree about that?
 
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