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(Phys Org2)   Scientists absolutely certain the Earth is either warming or cooling   (phys.org ) divider line 100
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2014-08-17 12:00:59 PM  
Either way, I'm sure people who aren't scientists will explain why they are wrong.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-08-17 12:33:37 PM  
My earth warms and cools a lot, on an approximately 20 hour cycle. Totally indecisive. It seems to be correlated with the motion of the sun. I think there's also a longer period perodicity of a few thousand hours overlaid on the more obvious cycle.
 
2014-08-17 12:42:55 PM  
Its 65 in Tennessee in August. Explain that with your science libulardos!
 
2014-08-17 12:56:39 PM  
There's a net inflow of heat. Most of that energy is ending up in the upper layers of the ocean with some of it absorbed by melting ice, particularly in the Arctic. Average surface temperatures do continue to rise, but at a slower rate than if those heat sinks were not present.
 
2014-08-17 02:13:40 PM  

Ivo Shandor: There's a net inflow of heat. Most of that energy is ending up in the upper layers of the ocean with some of it absorbed by melting ice, particularly in the Arctic. Average surface temperatures do continue to rise, but at a slower rate than if those heat sinks were not present.


Why it's almost as if weather and climate were two entirely different things!  Who knew?
 
2014-08-17 02:40:27 PM  
so releasing pollutants at an increasing rate is totally cool
 
2014-08-17 03:20:47 PM  
You wouldn't thik that a science article would be posted on a 1996 era web page.
 
2014-08-17 03:21:28 PM  

Mugato: You wouldn't thik that a science article would be posted on a 1996 era web page.


think
 
2014-08-17 03:25:52 PM  
www.bitlogic.com
 
2014-08-17 03:26:01 PM  
Shhhh. Unlike any other kind of science, this science is settled.
 
2014-08-17 03:30:59 PM  

s2s2s2: Shhhh. Unlike any other kind of science, this science is settled.


That some questions about climate are relatively settled does not somehow mean that any and all questions related to climate are settled.
 
2014-08-17 03:31:29 PM  

Damnhippyfreak: s2s2s2: Shhhh. Unlike any other kind of science, this science is settled.

That some questions about climate are relatively settled does not somehow mean that any and all questions related to climate are settled.


Yes.
 
2014-08-17 03:31:32 PM  

s2s2s2: Shhhh. Unlike any other kind of science, this science is settled.


Shhhh.  Unlike other kinds of science, this issue is determined by people with no facts.
 
2014-08-17 03:34:47 PM  
The leaves are changing already and it feels like late September.

//I really should be back at school
 
2014-08-17 03:34:52 PM  

s2s2s2: Damnhippyfreak: s2s2s2: Shhhh. Unlike any other kind of science, this science is settled.

That some questions about climate are relatively settled does not somehow mean that any and all questions related to climate are settled.

Yes.


Which means that your original post is somewhat misguided. This subset of climatology is not settled, contrary to what you posted.
 
2014-08-17 03:35:38 PM  
Because this one stupid article totally negates overwhelming scientific consensus that the earth is warming and that temperatures have steadily been increasing. Well I'm convinced.
 
2014-08-17 03:39:55 PM  
DNRTFA; does it contain the often loved canard that there's been no warming since 1998?
 
2014-08-17 03:43:24 PM  
Better roll coal just to be sure.
 
2014-08-17 03:44:54 PM  

vygramul: [www.bitlogic.com image 624x352]


Nice cartoon, Chicken Little.
 
2014-08-17 03:45:32 PM  
Easy . The core is actually cooling ever since the Earth was formed. The atmosphere on other hand is  warming up, regardless  of the causes.
 
2014-08-17 03:49:06 PM  

IlGreven: DNRTFA; does it contain the often loved canard that there's been no warming since 1998?


No. It is fairly readable, but I don't know the background (or sponsorship, if any) of the guy quoted in the article. It's not a straight "global warming is crap" piece, more like, "we don't fully understand the data we have" thing. More befuddlement than alarm and surprise, and I didn't pick up any finger-pointing.

/Splunge
 
2014-08-17 03:55:19 PM  

whidbey: Because this one stupid article totally negates overwhelming scientific consensus that the earth is warming and that temperatures have steadily been increasing. Well I'm convinced.


IlGreven: DNRTFA; does it contain the often loved canard that there's been no warming since 1998?


It's actually about the challenges this team faced in developing a model for the climate change over the last 10,000 years and how the measurements are contradicting their model, even though we all think their model is correct.  Since we came out of an ice age, we should see warming trends in that period, but it's not lining up.

The article, and the issues of the team, have very little to do with humanity's impact on climate over the last 150 years.
 
2014-08-17 03:58:41 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Its 65 in Tennessee in August. Explain that with your science libulardos!


It's 88 here in North Carolina.  Checkmate, conservatards!!

/amidoinitrite?
 
2014-08-17 04:14:48 PM  
Its gonna require more government grants before we can tell either way.
 
2014-08-17 04:22:53 PM  

xanadian: Doktor_Zhivago: Its 65 in Tennessee in August. Explain that with your science libulardos!

It's 88 here in North Carolina.  Checkmate, conservatards!!

/amidoinitrite?


Obviously not. Here in my house it's a comfortable 72 degrees. Suck on that!
 
2014-08-17 04:25:45 PM  

Mugato: You wouldn't thik that a science article would be posted on a 1996 era web page.


Subby linked to the mobile version, for whatever reason.
 
2014-08-17 04:27:49 PM  
"The fundamental laws of physics say that as the temperature goes up, it has to get warmer," Liu says.

That's some fine detective work there, Liu.
 
2014-08-17 04:34:05 PM  

hawcian: Mugato: You wouldn't thik that a science article would be posted on a 1996 era web page.

Subby linked to the mobile version, for whatever reason.


Ah, my bad. Sorry, developers.
 
2014-08-17 04:40:54 PM  

cretinbob: The leaves are changing already and it feels like late September.

//I really should be back at school


Someone wrecked you bed?
 
2014-08-17 04:41:38 PM  

cretinbob: The leaves are changing already and it feels like late September.

//I really should be back at school


Someone wrecked your bed?
 
2014-08-17 05:13:56 PM  

Stone Meadow: "The fundamental laws of physics say that as the temperature goes up, it has to get warmer," Liu says.

That's some fine detective work there, Liu.


media.giphy.com
 
2014-08-17 05:24:35 PM  

ZAZ: My earth warms and cools a lot, on an approximately 20 hour cycle. Totally indecisive. It seems to be correlated with the motion of the sun. I think there's also a longer period perodicity of a few thousand hours overlaid on the more obvious cycle.


either way, the climate is changing !! YAY

ice core records show that this has always been true.
the idea of a stable consistent climate is pretty silly
 
2014-08-17 05:26:26 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-08-17 05:27:48 PM  

vygramul: [www.bitlogic.com image 624x352]


That's great. That says it all, and quick.
 
2014-08-17 05:33:02 PM  

namatad: ZAZ: My earth warms and cools a lot, on an approximately 20 hour cycle. Totally indecisive. It seems to be correlated with the motion of the sun. I think there's also a longer period perodicity of a few thousand hours overlaid on the more obvious cycle.

either way, the climate is changing !! YAY

ice core records show that this has always been true.
the idea of a stable consistent climate is pretty silly


the idea of different rates of change is just impossible to grasp.
 
2014-08-17 05:46:10 PM  
At least they narrowed it down to two
 
2014-08-17 05:53:34 PM  

Kurmudgeon: At least they narrowed it down to two


[whynotboth?.jpg]
 
2014-08-17 05:59:49 PM  

namatad: ZAZ: My earth warms and cools a lot, on an approximately 20 hour cycle. Totally indecisive. It seems to be correlated with the motion of the sun. I think there's also a longer period perodicity of a few thousand hours overlaid on the more obvious cycle.

either way, the climate is changing !! YAY

ice core records show that this has always been true.
the idea of a stable consistent climate is pretty silly


Greenland might finally live up to it's name...
 
2014-08-17 06:23:56 PM  
"...show global temperature trends over the last 10,000 years, the University of Wisconsin-Madison's Zhengyu Liu knew that was going to be a problem."

shouldn't be a problem to report the facts, unless they're trying to submit a report that supports a specific outcome, instead of letting the report be the information used to determine an outcome...like...you know...how science stuff is supposed to work.
 
2014-08-17 06:25:21 PM  

Oneofthesedays: namatad: ZAZ: My earth warms and cools a lot, on an approximately 20 hour cycle. Totally indecisive. It seems to be correlated with the motion of the sun. I think there's also a longer period perodicity of a few thousand hours overlaid on the more obvious cycle.

either way, the climate is changing !! YAY

ice core records show that this has always been true.
the idea of a stable consistent climate is pretty silly

Greenland might finally live up to it's name...


again
over and over
 
2014-08-17 06:26:56 PM  

MBrady: Al Gore


DRINK!
 
2014-08-17 06:28:06 PM  

Oneofthesedays: Greenland might finally live up to it's name...


Not for long it won't.
In the long run, it's getting cold.
img.fark.net
 
2014-08-17 06:29:11 PM  

namatad: Oneofthesedays: namatad: ZAZ: My earth warms and cools a lot, on an approximately 20 hour cycle. Totally indecisive. It seems to be correlated with the motion of the sun. I think there's also a longer period perodicity of a few thousand hours overlaid on the more obvious cycle.

either way, the climate is changing !! YAY

ice core records show that this has always been true.
the idea of a stable consistent climate is pretty silly

Greenland might finally live up to it's name...

again
over and over


That's the great thing about names - they're always accurate.
 
2014-08-17 06:29:38 PM  
img.fark.net
" and Leon's getting laaarger!!!"
 
2014-08-17 06:32:29 PM  

SVenus: Oneofthesedays: Greenland might finally live up to it's name...

Not for long it won't.
In the long run, it's getting cold.
[img.fark.net image 745x224]


lolwut
 
2014-08-17 07:20:49 PM  
Uh...isn't this article about recent but pre-industrial climate?
 
2014-08-17 07:39:08 PM  

whidbey: Because this one stupid article totally negates overwhelming scientific consensus that the earth is warming and that temperatures have steadily been increasing. Well I'm convinced.


You should be convinced, but you won't be, I predict. You are wedded to your beliefs regardless of evidence to the contrary.  What this scientist is saying is old news if you follow the subject closely.  All the forecasts of future global warming are based on  modeling-predicted behavior of the climate in response to conditions. However, none of the models (that's right , none) have even approximated what has happened during the last 17 years.  If the models have failed over this period, it is not reasonable to assume that they would have any ability to forecast over a 50 or 100 year period.

So, if the earth is experiencing unusual climate change, we don't know why. The CO2 hypothesis has  not been proven as the real-world data doesn't match the predictions.
 
2014-08-17 08:08:05 PM  

Lokkii: You are wedded to your beliefs regardless of evidence to the contrary.


I don't "believe" anything. I know what the facts are. And if you know the facts as well, stop giving flat-earthers fuel for the fire.

The CO2 hypothesis has not been proven

Pretty sure global warming is real, Skippy. See sentence above for further instructions.
 
2014-08-17 08:09:58 PM  

Lokkii: However, none of the models (that's right , none) have even approximated what has happened during the last 17 years.  If the models have failed over this period, it is not reasonable to assume that they would have any ability to forecast over a 50 or 100 year period.


I really don't think that follows.
 
2014-08-17 08:17:53 PM  

Lokkii: whidbey: Because this one stupid article totally negates overwhelming scientific consensus that the earth is warming and that temperatures have steadily been increasing. Well I'm convinced.

You should be convinced, but you won't be, I predict. You are wedded to your beliefs regardless of evidence to the contrary.  What this scientist is saying is old news if you follow the subject closely.  All the forecasts of future global warming are based on  modeling-predicted behavior of the climate in response to conditions. However, none of the models (that's right , none) have even approximated what has happened during the last 17 years.  If the models have failed over this period, it is not reasonable to assume that they would have any ability to forecast over a 50 or 100 year period.

So, if the earth is experiencing unusual climate change, we don't know why. The CO2 hypothesis has  not been proven as the real-world data doesn't match the predictions.


Well, no. But at least you got your thoughts out there.
 
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