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2014-08-17 10:37:42 AM  
The picture with TFA makes that look like the funnest primary of all time.
 
2014-08-17 10:41:02 AM  
I knew an Anna Schatz in high school. She was a really nice young lady, so I probably would vote for her.

This guy looks nothing like her, though, so serious demerits there.
 
2014-08-17 12:08:25 PM  
Just what Congress needs, more rich white guys
 
2014-08-17 12:26:53 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Just what Congress needs, more rich white guys

incumbents.
 
2014-08-17 12:38:09 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Lost Thought 00: Just what Congress needs, more rich white guys incumbents.


The challenger could've won if she had decent policies.
 
2014-08-17 12:46:58 PM  
FTFA:  Schatz, however, succeeded in separating himself from the governor, aligning with progressive groups and environmental advocates and earning a reputation as one of the nation's most liberal senators one of the skinniest kids at fat camp.
 
2014-08-17 01:08:26 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Lost Thought 00: Just what Congress needs, more rich white guys incumbents.


He's an appointee who's only been in there for a year and a half.

Decades long incumbency is wrong, but this guy really doesn't deserve to be lumped in with those guys.
 
2014-08-17 01:40:50 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Just what Congress needs, more rich white guys


Hawaiians voting for the white guy is news.
 
2014-08-17 02:21:42 PM  
Historically, I'm a Hanabusa supporter, this time around she pissed me off. and I think the feeling was shared by enough voters. We voted her in to be our Hawaii Representative, but then she decides that's not good enough. She pulls the "But Inouye said I should have this job." as much respect and admiration I have for Inouye, even after his death, So and so saving a spot for you at the Senate is NOT farking democracy.

Also, if she had won, basically she made us all waste 2 farking years because not only will the Hawaii rep start at zero seniority, but so would our 'new' senator. I'm not super fond of Schatz, but his policies were agreeable, he wasn't too bad, and he was the incumbent (more or less).
 
2014-08-17 03:36:09 PM  

voran: Historically, I'm a Hanabusa supporter, this time around she pissed me off. and I think the feeling was shared by enough voters. We voted her in to be our Hawaii Representative, but then she decides that's not good enough. She pulls the "But Inouye said I should have this job." as much respect and admiration I have for Inouye, even after his death, So and so saving a spot for you at the Senate is NOT farking democracy.

Also, if she had won, basically she made us all waste 2 farking years because not only will the Hawaii rep start at zero seniority, but so would our 'new' senator. I'm not super fond of Schatz, but his policies were agreeable, he wasn't too bad, and he was the incumbent (more or less).


To be fair, you're already kind of farked on seniority compared to the last few decades of Inouye and Akaka.
 
2014-08-17 03:38:28 PM  
I hope Hanabusa doesn't challenge the results further - just let it be over with already.
 
2014-08-17 05:10:54 PM  

cptjeff: voran: Historically, I'm a Hanabusa supporter, this time around she pissed me off. and I think the feeling was shared by enough voters. We voted her in to be our Hawaii Representative, but then she decides that's not good enough. She pulls the "But Inouye said I should have this job." as much respect and admiration I have for Inouye, even after his death, So and so saving a spot for you at the Senate is NOT farking democracy.

Also, if she had won, basically she made us all waste 2 farking years because not only will the Hawaii rep start at zero seniority, but so would our 'new' senator. I'm not super fond of Schatz, but his policies were agreeable, he wasn't too bad, and he was the incumbent (more or less).

To be fair, you're already kind of farked on seniority compared to the last few decades of Inouye and Akaka.


We're super-farked: all 4 of our senators/reps are freshmen. Remember we also lost all seniority in the house when Abercrombie ran for governor.

Meanwhile, from a seniority perspective, Shatz was the only choice. Hanabusa is arleady 63 while Schatz is 42. Let's assume it takes 3 terms to build up significant seniority in the Senate: Schatz would be just hitting 60 while Hanabusa would be 80.


liltingbanshee: I hope Hanabusa doesn't challenge the results further - just let it be over with already.


I don't think I've ever seen a more vile or petty "concession speech" in Hawaiian politics than Hanabusa delivered Friday night. Seriously, Coleen? the problem was "mainland interests"?

Reality check: this was the first election you've ever been in where you didn't have Senator Dan and his treasure chest (funded by huge amounts of "mainland" money) propping you up.
 
2014-08-17 07:36:11 PM  
The comments are classic Rovian Projection. Wow.
 
2014-08-17 09:46:48 PM  
Schatz should not have been appointed but politics as they are it would be a waste to boot him now.  I predict he'll hold that office until he's old and gray.  Abercrombie wasted what little time/seniority he had when he came back to local politics then planted the seeds for his recent loss.

Democrats fighting between themselves for no reason and splitting the public vote. I like to think Case did that purposely to get Djou out of local office and gimp his future, but the way Dems are behaving it's hard to imagine any of them as political chess players.  I'd be surprised if any can see or put plays in motion further than remembering where to put their car keys.

I see Hawaii accidentally putting Republicans in office out of sheer idiocy  and in-fighting of the local Democrat party.
 
2014-08-17 11:59:29 PM  

muck1969: Schatz should not have been appointed but politics as they are it would be a waste to boot him now.  I predict he'll hold that office until he's old and gray.  Abercrombie wasted what little time/seniority he had when he came back to local politics then planted the seeds for his recent loss.

Democrats fighting between themselves for no reason and splitting the public vote. I like to think Case did that purposely to get Djou out of local office and gimp his future, but the way Dems are behaving it's hard to imagine any of them as political chess players.  I'd be surprised if any can see or put plays in motion further than remembering where to put their car keys.

I see Hawaii accidentally putting Republicans in office out of sheer idiocy  and in-fighting of the local Democrat party.


I think appointing Schatz was Abercrombie's smartest move as govenor. Again, for me, it's an age thing: Hanabusa is too old to accumulate any useful seniority. And remember it wasn't Case that split the Dem vote: it was Hanabusa who stepped in later because Senator Dan was pissed that Case didn't come kiss his ring and ask for permission to run. And even if if Hawaii Republican Party is a bad joke, you got to admit Djou is fun to watch: he's the most entertaining thing in Hawaii politics.
 
2014-08-18 07:04:39 AM  
I agree that appointing Schatz was a smart move, because if Abercrombie had appointed Hanabusa, she would've still had to defend it in this election,  and there would've been a special election for her House seat with not much time for the Democrats to scrounge up good candidates, which could've easily gone to a Republican like Charles Djou or Duke Aiona, or a blue dog Democrat like Ed Case.

ScreamingHangover: Seriously, Coleen? the problem was "mainland interests"?


...my wife was briefly involved with the Schatz campaign (stopped volunteering due to pregnancy) and told me everyone in charge was brought in from the mainland.  I dunno to what extent the same is true of all candidates at that level.
 
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