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(Chicago Trib)   And here parents thought that getting medical marijuana for their children would be easy   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 50
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2014-08-16 10:57:08 AM  
This is even more stupid than Anslinger's method.
Just look at your silly selves, Illinois.
 
2014-08-16 11:02:24 AM  
And, here in Minnesota, it is even more bizarre.

Politicians are not going to find a back door to slip quietly away from this mess.
Clean Start.
Fess up that you bought a lie hook line and boat anchor.
Fix that farking problem instead of dancing on one foot looking for an escape clause.
 
2014-08-16 11:03:49 AM  
Hear that rumbling? That is the TRUTH coming down the Pike, Move.
Lead, follow or get out of the way.
 
2014-08-16 12:33:11 PM  
What is the point of the troll headline on this story  Subby? There is no mention of kids getting mj and the real story is how badly this is being handled.
 
2014-08-16 12:59:27 PM  
I know in MA the appointed officials pretty much killed medical cannabis, they made it impossible to get it legally.
 
2014-08-16 01:06:41 PM  
Um, exactly HOW is making MS patients jump through more legal hoops to obtain medical MJ "Spiffy", Subby?

Also, where the f**k did you get the notion that parents were trying to buy it for there kids? There's NOTHING in this article that even hints to that! >:-(
 
2014-08-16 01:07:09 PM  
what about MM made of children?
 
2014-08-16 01:19:43 PM  

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"Dooodo. Waaaeet. Waaa?"

 
2014-08-16 01:24:36 PM  
Charlotte's Web strain would like a word with Subby.

/you're secretly Nancy Reagan, aren't you?
//people with brains aren't afraid of medical marijuana
 
2014-08-16 01:27:29 PM  
i1280.photobucket.com
Fark the 'rents, spark it.
 
2014-08-16 01:29:58 PM  
Man, I hate this state. If the corruption doesn't get ya, the stupid laws and taxes will.
 
2014-08-16 01:34:02 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Charlotte's Web strain would like a word with Subby.

/you're secretly Nancy Reagan, aren't you?
//people with brains aren't afraid of medical marijuana


Came in to say this. See it's taken care of.

/applause
 
2014-08-16 01:34:48 PM  
Gotta love this shiat.

"Yes, it's legal, but the process for getting authorized is so difficult that no one can get it".

Kind of like guns in Chicago or New York,
 
2014-08-16 01:35:53 PM  
Silly Doper, kicks are for grownups.
 
2014-08-16 01:39:29 PM  
This is a trolltastic headline and tag. You'd think the mods would at least pretend to have some semblance of a working brain. Ahh, who am I kidding, Drew and the mods have been full retard for years now. I'd say they drank themselves stupid, but they were stupid before that.
 
2014-08-16 01:41:50 PM  

Ringshadow: The My Little Pony Killer: Charlotte's Web strain would like a word with Subby.

/you're secretly Nancy Reagan, aren't you?
//people with brains aren't afraid of medical marijuana

Came in to say this. See it's taken care of.

/applause


Okay, this is the second time in two days that somebody on Fark has responded to one of my posts in order to agree with me. I'm starting to get a little scared here!
 
2014-08-16 01:45:35 PM  

chitownmike: What is the point of the troll headline on this story  Subby? There is no mention of kids getting mj and the real story is how badly this is being handled.


Why spiffy, subby? There are a lot of kids that will benefit from mmj, not such those with seizures.
 
2014-08-16 01:47:30 PM  
Once pot went full legal in CO and WA, the jig was pretty much up.  The anti- crowd is fighting last ditch rear guard actions on pretty much all fronts, if pot isn't legal at the Federal level by 2016 I'll be shocked.
 
2014-08-16 01:47:37 PM  

Captain Steroid: Um, exactly HOW is making MS patients jump through more legal hoops to obtain medical MJ "Spiffy", Subby?

Also, where the f**k did you get the notion that parents were trying to buy it for there kids? There's NOTHING in this article that even hints to that! >:-(


Although, there are parents trying to get it for their kids. The high CBD strains (Charlotte's Web).
 
2014-08-16 01:48:15 PM  
Unlike opiates or speed or anti depressants you can't get medical cannabis for your kids in most places, subs. Don't worry, big pharma is safe.
 
2014-08-16 01:48:36 PM  
What did people think would happen when they let the government into this? The government screws up everything it touches.
 
2014-08-16 01:52:55 PM  
After smoking hashish daily for 15 years I've decided to take a break.

This is no childs play, the days are pure hell and the nights are hell times ten even now, nine days later.

Not saying that YOU shouldn't smoke but please try to keep your consumption at a reasonable level.

There is nothing 'light' about this drug.
 
2014-08-16 01:55:32 PM  
The whole scheduling system is silly & arbitrary.  For another example, heroin is always used as the "gold standard" of a bad drug (including in TFA), but there are other opiate analgesics that are just as potent (and some that are more potent) in current use in medical practice.  The only thing that's unique about heroin is that it was discovered (and abused) very early, before there were any effective processes in place to control its distribution -- i.e., prescriptions & modern-style pharmacies.  It's only still in schedule 1 because of the fact that there are other equally-potent drugs around to do its job, so there's no real medical need to schedule it lower.

When you actually look at the current drug situation in the US logically, it makes no sense.
 
2014-08-16 01:57:37 PM  
People should just go to their MD and get legal, safe prescription narcotics.  Sheesh.
 
2014-08-16 02:01:21 PM  

Cashew: After smoking hashish daily for 15 years I've decided to take a break.

This is no childs play, the days are pure hell and the nights are hell times ten even now, nine days later.

Not saying that YOU shouldn't smoke but please try to keep your consumption at a reasonable level.

There is nothing 'light' about this drug.


Withdrawal from chronic Chronic usage is legit. I recommend exercise and staying well hydrated. It will pass in a couple/few weeks.
 
2014-08-16 02:03:00 PM  

AgentPothead: This is a trolltastic headline and tag. You'd think the mods would at least pretend to have some semblance of a working brain. Ahh, who am I kidding, Drew and the mods have been full retard for years now. I'd say they drank themselves stupid, but they were stupid before that.


Or maybe green lighting trolltastic headlines is part of the job.
 
2014-08-16 02:04:43 PM  

Headso: Unlike opiates or speed or anti depressants you can't get medical cannabis for your kids in most places, subs. Don't worry, big pharma is safe.


I hear you. One of my kids has been prescribed just about everything possible for cerebral palsy, depression, and adhd. What helps the most seems to be something the feds equate to heroin. But,I'm just speculating here, not saying that I know anything for a fact.
 
2014-08-16 02:05:39 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Cashew: After smoking hashish daily for 15 years I've decided to take a break.

This is no childs play, the days are pure hell and the nights are hell times ten even now, nine days later.

Not saying that YOU shouldn't smoke but please try to keep your consumption at a reasonable level.

There is nothing 'light' about this drug.

Withdrawal from chronic Chronic usage is legit. I recommend exercise and staying well hydrated. It will pass in a couple/few weeks.


More likely it's withdrawal from cheetos and taco bell.
 
2014-08-16 02:10:28 PM  
HalfOffOffer:

More likely it's withdrawal from cheetos and taco bell.

Haha, we don't have them brands in Sweden.

Typical Sweden by the way:
Rest of Europe drinks wine but here it has to be vodak.
Rest of Europe smoke mariujana but here it has to be hash.
 
2014-08-16 02:10:52 PM  

HalfOffOffer: Ow! That was my feelings!: Cashew: After smoking hashish daily for 15 years I've decided to take a break.

This is no childs play, the days are pure hell and the nights are hell times ten even now, nine days later.

Not saying that YOU shouldn't smoke but please try to keep your consumption at a reasonable level.

There is nothing 'light' about this drug.

Withdrawal from chronic Chronic usage is legit. I recommend exercise and staying well hydrated. It will pass in a couple/few weeks.

More likely it's withdrawal from cheetos and taco bell.


nwfilmforum.org
 
2014-08-16 02:13:04 PM  

Cashew: After smoking hashish daily for 15 years I've decided to take a break.

This is no childs play, the days are pure hell and the nights are hell times ten even now, nine days later.

Not saying that YOU shouldn't smoke but please try to keep your consumption at a reasonable level.

There is nothing 'light' about this drug.


Just speaking anecdotally for myself I never experienced any withdrawal from quitting pot (beyond the psychological, "Damn, I wanna get high!").

It's pretty much the same thing for caffeine although I didn't intentionally quit that - I just realized one day that I hadn't made coffee for months (and wasn't ingesting caffeine via soda or tea either).

But goddammit, quitting alcohol and tobacco were a real biatch.

I consider it a very light drug.unless you haven't used it in months and then you can get really farking baked, but my tolerance builds up fast and then I get bored with it and want to drink because to really get farked up I need a drink.

I guess everyone reacts differently to different drugs.

What kind of hell is it?  Insomnia?  Something else?

/insomnia can certainly feel like hell, especially when you're tired as shiat and haven't slept more than 5 hours in the last 3 days but you still can't sleep.
 
2014-08-16 02:14:14 PM  
Meanwhile here in Florida I don't have the option of medical marijuana. But the state doesn't have any problem with the 180 oxycodone pills I get every month, nor the 90 morphine pills. Because ass e all know drugs like morphine and oxycodone are completely safe and in no way addictive. Thanks for looking out for me Florida!
 
2014-08-16 02:19:15 PM  
gfid:

I can't sleep for shiat, nightmares, sweating.
I constantly think about smoking.
The earth is moving under my feet when I walk.
The stomach is in turmoil.

It's a psycological and physical addiction, it feels like I'm trying to give up heroine.
 
2014-08-16 02:21:56 PM  

Cashew: gfid:

I can't sleep for shiat, nightmares, sweating.
I constantly think about smoking.
The earth is moving under my feet when I walk.
The stomach is in turmoil.

It's a psycological and physical addiction, it feels like I'm trying to give up heroine.


maybe you were actually smoking opium over the  past 15 years and you just thought it was hash because you're European and don't know what good weed or concentrate looks like?
 
2014-08-16 02:26:10 PM  
Headso:

I've been smoking pure hash resin of the strongest kind for 15 years in a row, maybe 25 years in total.
In a pipe, without tobacco.

I know that some of it has been spiked with opiates.

Also taking Antabuse as I'm trying to lay of the sauce as well.
 
2014-08-16 02:33:15 PM  
I'm just busting yer balls, I totally believe that different people can have different reactions to both ingesting and coming off cannabis it's certainly true of tobacco where some guy can quit no problem and the next guy needs all sorts of aids to quit and he can't.

this is how we roll in merica:
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you don't smoke it, you heat up a quartz or titanium  nail with a torch and then just touch the shatter to it.
 
2014-08-16 02:36:34 PM  

Cashew: Headso:

I've been smoking pure hash resin of the strongest kind for 15 years in a row, maybe 25 years in total.
In a pipe, without tobacco.

I know that some of it has been spiked with opiates.

Also taking Antabuse as I'm trying to lay of the sauce as well.


There's your problem. Also, 'hash of the highest concentration' is very different than mj as a plant. It's like the difference between wine and vodka, a bit of a potency difference there...
 
2014-08-16 02:38:33 PM  
It is a huge pet peeve of mine to read/hear people call MJ "narcotics".
 
2014-08-16 02:39:57 PM  

jshine: The whole scheduling system is silly & arbitrary.  For another example, heroin is always used as the "gold standard" of a bad drug (including in TFA), but there are other opiate analgesics that are just as potent (and some that are more potent) in current use in medical practice.  The only thing that's unique about heroin is that it was discovered (and abused) very early, before there were any effective processes in place to control its distribution -- i.e., prescriptions & modern-style pharmacies.  It's only still in schedule 1 because of the fact that there are other equally-potent drugs around to do its job, so there's no real medical need to schedule it lower.

When you actually look at the current drug situation in the US logically, it makes no sense.


Demand for social `control' when focused by `policy' will sometimes rely on science (to a point) on the way to either a Polio vaccine or Zyklon B.
When the underlying narrative (Scheduling) has more to do with the `eradication of sin' than that of disease?
Won't even bother with Cannabis - it's nothing more than an attractive, annual, reseeding ornamental - some cultivars are useful in industry, some cultivars possess mild intoxicant effects/medical utility; considering how many species of very toxic (Castor Bean plants, Water Hemlock, etc) deer proof ornamentals I grow, every year, legally?  the Cannabis is right up there with the Cat Mint - meh (and how much has been spent/how many locked-up over the past 40 years for a nontoxic `ornamental'?).

So, at the heart of the matter is control and social, not scientific, values.  Heroin is a good example.  One can go to the liquor store, score the Vodak, come home and drink until one passes out on one's back and (no surprise) aspirates to death on one's own vomit.  Purely legal.
However, one goes and scores the Heroin, comes home, shoots up and dies from - foam at the lips - pulmonary edema?  Break out the tax money to run down all the dealers.

Approx. 10% of the population will almost always have a `problem' with some substance, or other - it is a medical issue, not a moral one for which we need continue to sacrifice critical thought in pandering to prohibitionists (Illinois today - waiting for next bullshiat bit, from elsewhere, tomorrow)
 
2014-08-16 02:41:38 PM  

Cashew: gfid:

I can't sleep for shiat, nightmares, sweating.
I constantly think about smoking.
The earth is moving under my feet when I walk.
The stomach is in turmoil.

It's a psycological and physical addiction, it feels like I'm trying to give up heroine.


What a heroine might look like...
ida.convio.net

Joking aside, it's been years since I was a heavy smoker, but insomnia was always the worst thing about quitting.  Very serious about consuming a lot of fluids to flush your system and getting plenty of exercise to 'naturally' tire yourself out.
 
2014-08-16 03:23:30 PM  

Cashew: Headso:

I've been smoking pure hash resin of the strongest kind for 15 years in a row, maybe 25 years in total.
In a pipe, without tobacco.

I know that some of it has been spiked with opiates.

Also taking Antabuse as I'm trying to lay of the sauce as well.


*slight* chance the sauce is to blame for well.. all of those things.
 
2014-08-16 03:57:37 PM  
If only there was a way to obtain pot through non-legal channels.


Everybody knows somebody that smokes.
 
2014-08-16 04:09:02 PM  

Cashew: After smoking hashish daily for 15 years I've decided to take a break.

This is no childs play, the days are pure hell and the nights are hell times ten even now, nine days later.

Not saying that YOU shouldn't smoke but please try to keep your consumption at a reasonable level.

There is nothing 'light' about this drug.


For any pleasurable thing, a certain percentage of humans will become psychologically dependent. For cannabis, it's around 1 in 15; for alcohol, 1 in 8; tobacco and heroin run 1 in 3. Sex, gambling, chocolate, running, coffee...some people will gradually do more and more and eventually discover they can't function without it anymore.


I'm sorry the genetic random number generator bit you. Best of luck with your break!
 
2014-08-16 04:41:46 PM  

lolumadbro: Cashew: Headso:

I've been smoking pure hash resin of the strongest kind for 15 years in a row, maybe 25 years in total.
In a pipe, without tobacco.

I know that some of it has been spiked with opiates.

Also taking Antabuse as I'm trying to lay of the sauce as well.

*slight* chance the sauce is to blame for well.. all of those things.


Yeah, but this is a weed thread and SOMEBODY'S gotta wharrgarbl about the children.
 
2014-08-16 06:15:09 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: lolumadbro: Cashew: Headso:

I've been smoking pure hash resin of the strongest kind for 15 years in a row, maybe 25 years in total.
In a pipe, without tobacco.

I know that some of it has been spiked with opiates.

Also taking Antabuse as I'm trying to lay of the sauce as well.

*slight* chance the sauce is to blame for well.. all of those things.

Yeah, but this is a weed thread and SOMEBODY'S gotta wharrgarbl about the children.


You ever hear a baby on hash resin?  Talk about wharrgarbl.
 
2014-08-16 06:27:24 PM  

jshine: The whole scheduling system is silly & arbitrary.  For another example, heroin is always used as the "gold standard" of a bad drug (including in TFA), but there are other opiate analgesics that are just as potent (and some that are more potent) in current use in medical practice.  The only thing that's unique about heroin is that it was discovered (and abused) very early, before there were any effective processes in place to control its distribution -- i.e., prescriptions & modern-style pharmacies.  It's only still in schedule 1 because of the fact that there are other equally-potent drugs around to do its job, so there's no real medical need to schedule it lower.

When you actually look at the current drug situation in the US logically, it makes no sense.


The problem is that there shouldn't BE a schedule 1.  There are NO drugs on it that have no potential medical use.
 
2014-08-16 06:41:23 PM  

Cashew: gfid:

I can't sleep for shiat, nightmares, sweating.
I constantly think about smoking.
The earth is moving under my feet when I walk.
The stomach is in turmoil.

It's a psycological and physical addiction, it feels like I'm trying to give up heroine.


Heroine?

Is she a blonde, brunette, or redhead? And does she have any cool superpowers?
 
2014-08-16 08:08:00 PM  

Captain Steroid: Um, exactly HOW is making MS patients jump through more legal hoops to obtain medical MJ "Spiffy", Subby?

Also, where the f**k did you get the notion that parents were trying to buy it for there kids? There's NOTHING in this article that even hints to that! >:-(


Madame Ovary: chitownmike: What is the point of the troll headline on this story  Subby? There is no mention of kids getting mj and the real story is how badly this is being handled.

Why spiffy, subby? There are a lot of kids that will benefit from mmj, not such those with seizures.


I'm pretty sure the tag is spiffy as a play on "spliff(y)".  Pretty good, and the mods recognized it or changed it.
 
2014-08-16 08:44:28 PM  
Why would you waist perfectly good weed by giving it to your kids?
 
2014-08-17 05:43:00 AM  
Almost nine months after Illinois' medical marijuana law took effect, the state is set to begin accepting applications in September for prospective patients.

It's so legal that still nobody can have any.

Does any other physician-prescribed treatment in Illinois require an application from the state? And do the people processing those applications have any more medical training than the dude in the army-surplus jacket standing outside the bus station who can provide it directly?
 
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