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(Major League Baseball)   Two controversial calls happen on the same play, challenge ensues. Since it's the Red Sox, you can guess the outcome   (m.mlb.com) divider line 26
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2014-08-16 11:22:14 AM  
WTF video codec they using that won't play on an iMac, fer chrissake?
 
2014-08-16 11:56:14 AM  
Breslow, you're a goddamned moron.  I can excuse the play at 2nd for being that close (and probably right, but until you have sensors in the bags or some shiat you'll never know that one), but dropping the ball at the plate is truly dumb.
 
2014-08-16 12:11:06 PM  

FriarReb98: Breslow, you're a goddamned moron.


That was Badenhop
 
2014-08-16 12:35:17 PM  
Given that it's the Red Sox, I had figured that the outcome would have been that the two players would be out AND the Red Sox would've been given a free pass on steroid testing for a few years to keep their window open longer

/oh wait, that second part already happened
 
2014-08-16 12:55:26 PM  
Yeah, clearly the league is biased against an unimportant, small-market team like the Red Sox. *eye roll*
 
2014-08-16 01:00:07 PM  
They fixed the cable?
 
2014-08-16 01:06:10 PM  

DeWayne Mann: FriarReb98: Breslow, you're a goddamned moron.

That was Badenhop


Either way, the point stands. You can't drop a throw at home from halfway down the line.
 
2014-08-16 01:30:01 PM  

FriarReb98: DeWayne Mann: FriarReb98: Breslow, you're a goddamned moron.

That was Badenhop

Either way, the point stands. You can't drop a throw at home from halfway down the line.


That wasn't near halfway down the line.  It's a sinking throw from about ten feet out while the pitcher slides into position.

Blame the catcher for inexplicably running in a circle.  You're between the runner and the plate when you catch the throw.  How about staying there, rather than running towards the mound, turning left, and realizing the runner's by you?
 
2014-08-16 01:34:51 PM  

Dafatone: Blame the catcher for inexplicably running in a circle.


I'm wondering if this was a case of overadjusting to the plate blocking rule. If he thought he had been blocking before he got the throw, starting to run up the line might take that rule out of the equation.
 
2014-08-16 01:42:30 PM  

DeWayne Mann: Dafatone: Blame the catcher for inexplicably running in a circle.

I'm wondering if this was a case of overadjusting to the plate blocking rule. If he thought he had been blocking before he got the throw, starting to run up the line might take that rule out of the equation.


That could be it.  I can't for the life of me figure out what else he was doing.  Unless he hadn't looked down the line at the runner at all and was springing forward in case he needed to throw to one of the other bases.
 
2014-08-16 01:56:26 PM  
What were the two controversial calls?

That play at home sure as hell wasn't controversial and frankly there's no controversy to be had about the one at second - you can't tell either way, even on replay.
 
2014-08-16 02:05:06 PM  
Upon further review, it's very obviously all Ben Affleck's fault.

\seriously, THAT is a messed up curse.
 
2014-08-16 03:17:16 PM  

IAmRight: What were the two controversial calls?

That play at home sure as hell wasn't controversial and frankly there's no controversy to be had about the one at second - you can't tell either way, even on replay.


I think one of the questions at home plate was whether the runner was too far out of the baseline or not. So, while neither incident was really controversial, it was two incidents on the same play that were both worthy of review.
 
2014-08-16 04:34:40 PM  

FriarReb98: Upon further review, it's very obviously all Ben Affleck's fault.

\seriously, THAT is a messed up curse.


Well, since that movie they've lost on his birthday every year...but won the World Series three times after failing to for about 70 years prior to it. I'd say that's an acceptable trade off if it happened to a team I were a fan of.
 
2014-08-16 04:47:37 PM  

IAmRight: FriarReb98: Upon further review, it's very obviously all Ben Affleck's fault.

\seriously, THAT is a messed up curse.

Well, since that movie they've lost on his birthday every year...but won the World Series three times after failing to for about 70 years prior to it. I'd say that's an acceptable trade off if it happened to a team I were a fan of.


70 years? Try again.
 
2014-08-16 05:04:42 PM  

John Buck 41: 70 years? Try again


My bad - should've been 80. Don't know why my mind felt like making 97-18=70. Think I dropped off the 7 in my head and made it 90-20 for some dumb reason.
 
2014-08-16 05:50:40 PM  

IAmRight: What were the two controversial calls?

That play at home sure as hell wasn't controversial and frankly there's no controversy to be had about the one at second - you can't tell either way, even on replay.



Out of baseline was the "controversy", although it really isn't since it's such a judgment call. Runner has to establish a running line and once he does can only deviate by 3 feet, which it looks like he kinda did, since he farkin cartwheels around the entire plate. But it's a decent call, rewarding some serious athleticism, Sox fan here and it was fun to watch regardless of the outcome.
 
2014-08-16 06:06:17 PM  

deadsanta: Runner has to establish a running line and once he does can only deviate by 3 feet


Yeah, this gets called in home plate situations about as often as they enforce the time between pitches rule, so meh on that being the controversy. It was a good play and honestly, people should be able to run as far out of the baselines as they want as long as they don't cross another baseline.

But again, that might make baseball entertaining, which explains why it's illegal.
 
2014-08-16 06:40:13 PM  

IAmRight: deadsanta: Runner has to establish a running line and once he does can only deviate by 3 feet

Yeah, this gets called in home plate situations about as often as they enforce the time between pitches rule, so meh on that being the controversy. It was a good play and honestly, people should be able to run as far out of the baselines as they want as long as they don't cross another baseline.

But again, that might make baseball entertaining, which explains why it's illegal.


If you're going to limit where the catcher can be, how do you let the runner go that far out of the baseline?
 
2014-08-16 06:52:40 PM  

PowerSlacker: If you're going to limit where the catcher can be, how do you let the runner go that far out of the baseline?


I don't limit that, either. I encourage crazy rundowns. Also, just stand near the plate. Let the runner try to get around you while you guard the plate. You should have the lateral quickness to get the stop.
 
2014-08-16 07:01:04 PM  

deadsanta: IAmRight: What were the two controversial calls?

That play at home sure as hell wasn't controversial and frankly there's no controversy to be had about the one at second - you can't tell either way, even on replay.


Out of baseline was the "controversy", although it really isn't since it's such a judgment call. Runner has to establish a running line and once he does can only deviate by 3 feet, which it looks like he kinda did, since he farkin cartwheels around the entire plate. But it's a decent call, rewarding some serious athleticism, Sox fan here and it was fun to watch regardless of the outcome.


As the announcers discussed in the clip, the basepath was irrelevant. He didn't avoid a tag by going outside the basepath. He was within the basepath when the catcher decided not to attempt a tag, the pitcher never could attempt a tag (didn't have the ball) and home plate is inherently in the basepath.
 
2014-08-16 07:01:35 PM  
Delicious, delicious Red Sox tears. Always crying, always nourishing
 
2014-08-16 08:31:51 PM  

IAmRight: John Buck 41: 70 years? Try again

My bad - should've been 80. Don't know why my mind felt like making 97-18=70. Think I dropped off the 7 in my head and made it 90-20 for some dumb reason.


All's forgiven. I enjoy your posts, even if you aren't always right.
 
2014-08-16 09:46:18 PM  
Astros in the AL. For shame.
 
2014-08-16 11:44:10 PM  
Given that it was the Red Sox, I assumed there was a riot.
 
2014-08-17 02:12:10 PM  
Today's game is now under protest, I think.  Farrell is arguing that the neighborhood play should have been in effect even though Xander wasn't in the neighborhood before he decided to throw the ball to first.

If they somehow win, that's a lot of game to make up....
 
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