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(Mashable)   Remember yesterday's story about how the ALS "ice bucket challenge" is a heinous waste? Yeah, Bill Gates just did it. Better: in awesomely dorky style. Best: he challenges Elon Musk to go next   ( divider line
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2014-08-16 11:32:11 PM  

Vangor: Generally, I despise awareness raising because the funds appear to return to groups focused on awareness raising, not actual research or services or policy as needed. However, this has been an effective campaign with minimal cost for an organization which does the research and services and policy.

You're thinking of the Susan G. Komen Foundation, which has gotten a lot of controversial ink the last five or ten years. Don't mistake the forest for the big tree. And use to tell the difference.

Also, keep in mind that there's nothing inherently wrong with awareness campaigns. There are a lot of diseases out there that no one's ever heard of, even ones you think are pretty well-known. Right here ITT we've had several Farkers post that they'd never heard of ALS until this campaign.

Becoming aware of a disease can make a huge difference. People get diagnosed correctly more often, get treated sooner, get to live longer with a better quality of life.

Awareness campaigns may also generate more interest among new and talented researchers. Remember that, like any other profession, talented "researchers" have to-- and get to-- pick a specialty. They're not allocated among all the available diseases on graduation; and a lot of diseases are currently un-researched because the average researcher knows little or nothing about them.

And, of course, awareness campaigns can lead to new sources of funding to pay for research. Which also ties back to recruiting researchers: a researcher might be interested in Disease XYZ, but if there's no funding for it, s/he is going to research something else.
2014-08-16 11:36:40 PM  

Arkanaut: GDubDub: Arkanaut: I think Bill Gates would help the cause a lot more if he contributed a few million dollars. You know, pocket change.

How do you know he didn't?

TFA didn't say.

So in other words, you don't know.

And so maybe you shouldn't go making snarky comments without knowing a little something more. But then you couldn't be an ITG.
2014-08-16 11:40:56 PM  

ReapTheChaos: Did anyone notice there was no ice in the bucket? Isn't the whole point of this to dump ice cold water on yourself?

Ice COLD water. Not ice-water.
2014-08-16 11:46:20 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Massively Multiplayer Addict: When are people going to figure out that "awareness" means "more donations"? That's the whole point of awareness.

When are people going to figure out that we don't need awareness campaigns that only serve to keep awareness campaigns going?

I count at least three Farkers who have said ITT that they hadn't heard of ALS before this campaign.

So you'll forgive us if we don't nominate you as the reigning expert on when awareness campaigns can be concluded.
2014-08-17 02:09:45 AM  
I haven't checked YouTube--are there vids of people dumping the ice water on Lou Gehrig's and Gary Cooper's gravestones yet?
2014-08-17 06:05:34 AM  

Now if he would have had a needle of ice water injected into his heart...  Now that would be saying something.  Exactly what he would say...

that's why they sell tickets to such events.
2014-08-17 04:12:56 PM  

Arkanaut: I think Bill Gates would help the cause a lot more if he contributed a few million dollars. You know, pocket change. in terview-I-have-no-use-for-money.-This-is-Gods-work.html

Gates has donated 28 billion (that is with a b) dollars for various causes, mostly centered around world health.  I think his track record has earned him the right to have a little fun without being criticized for not donating(but I bet you anything that he did donate).
2014-08-17 04:21:10 PM  

noitsnot: GardenWeasel: noitsnot: RTOGUY: Arkanaut: I think Bill Gates would help the cause a lot more if he contributed a few million dollars. You know, pocket change.

Gates has spent a fortune on charity work around the world if he wants to sit this one out (we don't know that he didn't donate something) that would be fine by me.

See, Bill Gates and Jimmy Carter ACTUALLY CURE DISEASE around the world.

Awareness campaigns let teenage girls wear "save the boobies" t-shirts to school so they can feel naughty  and get all giggly.

And HOW do they do that? Money. Awareness campaigns lead to donations. Stop being a such a damn cynic.

Fine.  The amount of overhead is just annoying.  Plus the idea that the best marketing determines who gets funded.  Lung and colon cancer each kill more people than breast cancer every year, but, ya know - TITS!

Plus I worked for a grant funded cancer research start-up for a while and it was a bit sick the way the founder pretty much was just good at grant applications, and got the same grants every year and went to a lot of conferences and had fun with his buddies.  Meanwhile the work we were doing was pointless 20 year old technology.

You don't seem to be making a lot of sense.  You go off on a tirade that awareness is stupid, then you lament that Breast cancer gets unduly funded (which is largely because of the great awareness campaigns surrounding it).

After reading your comments, it seems like it boils down to you wanting to say that you were cool because you donated before it became trendy and popular to do so.
2014-08-17 05:48:19 PM  
Who gives a crap about airman leadership school?
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