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2014-08-16 08:07:40 AM  
I blame the guy who designed javascript and thought webpages spawning new browser windows needed to be a thing.  Once we got that far, popup ads were a foregone conclusion.  All technologies, without exception, are eventually used for advertising.

CSB: Back in ~2000 Ultimate Bulletin Board was a popular piece of forum software, but had basically no security.  Thread titles were totally unsanitized, so with 5 minutes of javascript knowledge and <script> tags in your titles you could grief the hell out of the place and spawn a billion popups for everyone or screw with the page design or w/e you wanted.  Could even hack into the admin functions by carefully choosing your username.

Ah, nostalgia.
 
2014-08-16 10:40:06 AM  
Don't forget slide shows

/someone needs to pay for that Power Point inspired atrocity
 
2014-08-16 10:52:34 AM  
I wish he had typed his apology in comic sans.
 
2014-08-16 11:08:23 AM  
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2014-08-16 11:09:17 AM  
Wait... there are still people who don't run Adblock Plus?

I haven't seen a popup ad in literally years.  Not much in the way of banner ads either, not even ads in Youtube get past that magic stopsign.

I find the internet unbearable without it, and it is absolutely the first thing I do on a clean install of Firefox.

As for the ad guy, well let's face it, if he hadn't come up with it someone else would have fairly quickly.  Corporate profits must be met after all.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-08-16 11:09:33 AM  
I was going to call for death of the inventors of javascript, but I see I'm late to the thread.

At least the BLINK tag is gone from the internet. According to Wikipedia, its inventor is also sorry.
 
2014-08-16 11:12:44 AM  

ZAZ: I was going to call for death of the inventors of javascript, but I see I'm late to the thread.

At least the BLINK tag is gone from the internet. According to Wikipedia, its inventor is also sorry.


iambrony.steeph.tp-radio.de
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-08-16 11:14:39 AM  
In addition to blinking text -- which animated GIFs now recreate, and there's another deserved mass flogging in that story -- browsing in the 1990s had clumsily animated status bars. Marketers wanted to scroll messages, and the only way to do that was to erase and redraw one character over. Redrawing a status line took a noticable amount of time, so not only was it jump-jump-jump scrolling it was flicker-jump-flicker-jump scrolling. Now javascript no longer has access to the status bar because there was so much abuse.

One of the early accessibility guides prohibited flickering, which basically made anything but plain linear text illegal on a web page. (Of course, the rule was disobeyed.) There was no way to guarantee a user agent at the time could redraw fast enough that it did not appear to flicker. One popular browser had a horrible time with tables, for example, and tables were the way you laid out pieces of a page.
 
2014-08-16 11:15:52 AM  
What's a popup?  Is it something that the poor primitives without an adblocker are subjected to?

/get one, they're free
 
2014-08-16 11:17:19 AM  
I'd settle for an apology from the admins for ever greenlighting an International Business Times link and a promise to never do it again.

Just say no!

img2u.info
 
2014-08-16 11:18:30 AM  
Oooooh.... autoplay video.  My hate of autoplay video is a bright golden sun, keeping me warm and alive.

I would not normally root for someone to get ass-raped by an elk (and then a camel (and then a moose)) but I would make an exception for the inventor of autoplay and then the geniuses who decided this was "an enhanced internet experience."

/Looking at you, ESPN.
 
2014-08-16 11:24:32 AM  
Skin him alive and then roll him in salt until he screams himself to death.

Then tell him apology accepted.
 
2014-08-16 11:27:38 AM  
DanInKansas

If a video auto plays on ESPN, there is an option on the lower right bottom that lets you turn off autoplay.
 
2014-08-16 11:40:57 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Don't forget slide shows

/someone needs to pay for that Power Point inspired atrocity


Slideshows turned out to be better, somehow, than autoplay videos which are often embedded in them or lists that use animated jpgs to express stuff that mere words suffice.

/summon Hanover Fiste
 
2014-08-16 11:43:13 AM  

Muzzleloader: Skin him alive and then roll him in salt until he screams himself to death.

Then tell him apology accepted.


I like your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
However, I won't be giving you my address since I receive enough penis growth spam as it is.
 
2014-08-16 11:47:18 AM  

dookdookdook: I blame the guy who designed javascript and thought webpages spawning new browser windows needed to be a thing.  Once we got that far, popup ads were a foregone conclusion.  All technologies, without exception, are eventually used for advertising.

CSB: Back in ~2000 Ultimate Bulletin Board was a popular piece of forum software, but had basically no security.  Thread titles were totally unsanitized, so with 5 minutes of javascript knowledge and <script> tags in your titles you could grief the hell out of the place and spawn a billion popups for everyone or screw with the page design or w/e you wanted.  Could even hack into the admin functions by carefully choosing your username.

Ah, nostalgia.


Back in ~2008 it was either cbs or nbc that didn't sanitize the comments posted on their online videos.

/b/ politely informed them of their mistake.
 
2014-08-16 11:49:30 AM  
globalnerdy.com

/relevant
 
2014-08-16 12:23:54 PM  

xellas84: Wait... there are still people who don't run Adblock Plus?

I haven't seen a popup ad in literally years.  Not much in the way of banner ads either, not even ads in Youtube get past that magic stopsign.


I was at a friend's house last year, he is the farthest thing from tech-savvy and of course he did not have AdBlock (and used IE). Watching YouTube was unbearable, I don't know how people do it without AdBlock.
 
2014-08-16 12:45:58 PM  
The last straw for me has been the unblockable, unstoppable, unmutable autoplay video ads that have been appearing in banner ad spots. I'm glad that AdBlock for Chrome is working right now instead of showing the puzzle piece that says "webpage not found". AdBlock has been flaky as all hell in Chrome, deciding to not work for weeks or months at a time.
 
2014-08-16 01:06:24 PM  

germ78: The last straw for me has been the unblockable, unstoppable, unmutable autoplay video ads that have been appearing in banner ad spots. I'm glad that AdBlock for Chrome is working right now instead of showing the puzzle piece that says "webpage not found". AdBlock has been flaky as all hell in Chrome, deciding to not work for weeks or months at a time.


Hint:  Google's business model really doesn't want you blocking their ads.
 
2014-08-16 01:09:03 PM  
We don't want an apology. We want justice.
 
2014-08-16 01:26:08 PM  

germ78: The last straw for me has been the unblockable, unstoppable, unmutable autoplay video ads that have been appearing in banner ad spots. I'm glad that AdBlock for Chrome is working right now instead of showing the puzzle piece that says "webpage not found". AdBlock has been flaky as all hell in Chrome, deciding to not work for weeks or months at a time.


This is frankly the ONLY reason I haven't transitioned from Firefox to Chrome.  Firefox is a memory gobbling monstrosity, but Adblock is solid as a rock on it, and frankly Adblock is as integral to my web experience as the internet connection itself.
 
2014-08-16 01:29:56 PM  

xellas84: germ78: The last straw for me has been the unblockable, unstoppable, unmutable autoplay video ads that have been appearing in banner ad spots. I'm glad that AdBlock for Chrome is working right now instead of showing the puzzle piece that says "webpage not found". AdBlock has been flaky as all hell in Chrome, deciding to not work for weeks or months at a time.

This is frankly the ONLY reason I haven't transitioned from Firefox to Chrome.  Firefox is a memory gobbling monstrosity, but Adblock is solid as a rock on it, and frankly Adblock is as integral to my web experience as the internet connection itself.


Drop Firefox, go get Palemoon:
http://www.palemoon.org/

Its a natively 64bit offshoot of firefox that stuck to its roots.  Still eats memory but remains elegant while doing so and of course supports all the firefox plugins etc.  You can actually run ghostery without it taking ten seconds to process the average fark tab's listing.
 
2014-08-16 01:33:16 PM  
Now that it's become easy to send and receive money online, it's possible people won't mind paying for things now and then


Hahahaha - this guy is 100% wrong.
 
2014-08-16 01:44:59 PM  
Too little, too late, douchenozzle.
 
2014-08-16 01:46:33 PM  

Muzzleloader: Skin him alive and then roll him in salt until he screams himself to death.

Then tell him apology accepted.


I find this acceptable.
 
2014-08-16 01:51:59 PM  

DanInKansas: Oooooh.... autoplay video.  My hate of autoplay video is a bright golden sun, keeping me warm and alive.

I would not normally root for someone to get ass-raped by an elk (and then a camel (and then a moose)) but I would make an exception for the inventor of autoplay and then the geniuses who decided this was "an enhanced internet experience."

/Looking at you, ESPN.


Get with the times.
I never see autoplay videos anywhere but where I've ok'd them to always play, ie youtube.
img.fark.net
 
2014-08-16 01:57:38 PM  

GardenWeasel: ZAZ: I was going to call for death of the inventors of javascript, but I see I'm late to the thread.

At least the BLINK tag is gone from the internet. According to Wikipedia, its inventor is also sorry.

[iambrony.steeph.tp-radio.de image 370x319]


media.tumblr.com
 
2014-08-16 02:08:54 PM  

wiseolddude: DanInKansas

If a video auto plays on ESPN, there is an option on the lower right bottom that lets you turn off autoplay.


CNN just got rid of a similar option.
/don't judge me!
 
2014-08-16 02:12:43 PM  

Fano: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Don't forget slide shows

/someone needs to pay for that Power Point inspired atrocity

Slideshows turned out to be better, somehow, than autoplay videos which are often embedded in them or lists that use animated jpgs to express stuff that mere words suffice.

/summon Hanover Fiste


He's nothing but a low-down, double-dealing, backstabbing, larcenous perverted worm! Hanging's too good for him. Burning's too good for him! He should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive!
 
2014-08-16 02:22:45 PM  

BumpInTheNight: xellas84: germ78: The last straw for me has been the unblockable, unstoppable, unmutable autoplay video ads that have been appearing in banner ad spots. I'm glad that AdBlock for Chrome is working right now instead of showing the puzzle piece that says "webpage not found". AdBlock has been flaky as all hell in Chrome, deciding to not work for weeks or months at a time.

This is frankly the ONLY reason I haven't transitioned from Firefox to Chrome.  Firefox is a memory gobbling monstrosity, but Adblock is solid as a rock on it, and frankly Adblock is as integral to my web experience as the internet connection itself.

Drop Firefox, go get Palemoon:
http://www.palemoon.org/

Its a natively 64bit offshoot of firefox that stuck to its roots.  Still eats memory but remains elegant while doing so and of course supports all the firefox plugins etc.  You can actually run ghostery without it taking ten seconds to process the average fark tab's listing.


Thanks for the heads up, I'll definitely look over it.  Looks promising to be sure, though I've found that there's a few memory management plugins for Firefox that keep it's overhead to mostly reasonable levels.

I'm honestly suprised that the internet ad providers haven't tried to lobby to get adblockers banned.  Not that it'd work too well, but since when has sanity or legality stood in the way of people trying to litigate more money to themselves?
 
2014-08-16 02:40:28 PM  
Anyone have a way to stop pop unders or whatever they are called that one you are on the site, a pop screen appears for like "fill this out if you like the site to get email updates" or "do you enjoy this site?  Like us on FB" and shiat like that?  I use adblock on Firefox, but that's it.
 
2014-08-16 02:50:26 PM  

oukewldave: Anyone have a way to stop pop unders or whatever they are called that one you are on the site, a pop screen appears for like "fill this out if you like the site to get email updates" or "do you enjoy this site?  Like us on FB" and shiat like that?  I use adblock on Firefox, but that's it.


I use adblockplus and noscript on firefox and I never see them.
 
2014-08-16 02:51:23 PM  
For what it's worth, Smithsonian.com stopped it's use of auto play. For a while the video was at the bottom of the page, meaning you had to scroll down to stop it. The nadir came when they put the videos on pages linked from elsewhere with a video at the top. I think a lot of people scream "enough" after that
 
2014-08-16 02:55:30 PM  
I remember when people would put videos on their MySpace pages, and every one of them would auto-play simultaneously.
 
2014-08-16 03:09:06 PM  
Never seen one of those, only running adblock plus.  I'd run a malware scan if I was you.
 
2014-08-16 03:09:42 PM  

xellas84: Never seen one of those, only running adblock plus.  I'd run a malware scan if I was you.


Was supposed to be a reply to :

oukewldave: Anyone have a way to stop pop unders or whatever they are called that one you are on the site, a pop screen appears for like "fill this out if you like the site to get email updates" or "do you enjoy this site?  Like us on FB" and shiat like that?  I use adblock on Firefox, but that's it.

 
2014-08-16 03:12:21 PM  
Don't most if not all modern-day browsers have built-in pop-up blockers?

Also, get Firefox or Pale Moon with AdBlock Plus, NoScript, and Ghostery.  Granted one time an autoplay video did get through.  I blocked that shiat faster than you can say "autoplay video."
 
2014-08-16 03:16:34 PM  
There are services I wouldn't mind paying $5/year for of they were ad-free.

Yet for $5, they still have ads.
 
2014-08-16 03:41:30 PM  
I thought popup ads went away when Kompressor destroyed X10?
 
2014-08-16 04:05:05 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Muzzleloader: Skin him alive and then roll him in salt until he screams himself to death.

Then tell him apology accepted.

I find this acceptable.


Load him into a canon, and fire him up the ass of an incontinent rhino immediately after. THEN I'd consider the apology.
 
2014-08-16 04:47:33 PM  

TwoBeersOneCan: What's a popup?  Is it something that the poor primitives without an adblocker are subjected to?



www.owensadoption.com
 
2014-08-16 05:06:46 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Now that it's become easy to send and receive money online, it's possible people won't mind paying for things now and then


Hahahaha - this guy is 100% wrong.


That would be really nice if it was true.
 
2014-08-16 05:10:32 PM  

gfid: TwoBeersOneCan: What's a popup?  Is it something that the poor primitives without an adblocker are subjected to?


[www.owensadoption.com image 850x637]


That's not a pop out, this is a pop out:

img.fark.net
 
2014-08-16 05:26:06 PM  

GardenWeasel: ZAZ: I was going to call for death of the inventors of javascript, but I see I'm late to the thread.

At least the BLINK tag is gone from the internet. According to Wikipedia, its inventor is also sorry.

[iambrony.steeph.tp-radio.de image 370x319]


i624.photobucket.com
 
2014-08-16 05:33:56 PM  
Goddammit, BluHell is not keeping up with suppressing the ankle biting ad rubbish in YouTube.

I gotta change out my ad blocking stuff AGAIN.
 
2014-08-16 07:27:55 PM  
Can we see that the person who invented the Internet slideshow is prosecuted?
 
2014-08-16 08:02:55 PM  
"Now that it's become easy to send and receive money online, it's possible people won't mind paying for things now and then."

I think I'll stick with the current ad driven internet. There's very few sites I'd be willing to pay for, and for those few, I might go as much as 5 or 6 dollars per year, more than that would be too much.
 
2014-08-16 08:32:59 PM  
I remember the first time a pop-up ad appeared during my browsing ex
 
2014-08-16 08:34:32 PM  
...thanks Safari. Anyway, I was on the web and the ad blocked the whole damn screen. Wondered what the hell had happened to my page. This was around that time too if I remember. Ah, the naïveté of those days.
 
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