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(NBC San Diego)   Being admitted to the detox ward at a hospital is not unusual, but when you're the on-duty surgeon there it tends to get noticed   (nbcsandiego.com) divider line 31
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2014-08-16 12:04:18 AM  
The night of Oct. 21, Lane and his wife got into a fight about his drinking, and before he went to sleep, he drank two bottles of wine, the accusation says. Around 1 a.m., Lane woke up and drank another eight ounces.

He got a .39 BAC from that? Sounds legit.
 
2014-08-16 12:22:42 AM  

fusillade762: The night of Oct. 21, Lane and his wife got into a fight about his drinking, and before he went to sleep, he drank two bottles of wine, the accusation says. Around 1 a.m., Lane woke up and drank another eight ounces.

He got a .39 BAC from that? Sounds legit.


Yeah, there's some lying, some bad math, or his liver is toast and is processing alcohol like a mouse. You get to .4 on hard liquor.
 
2014-08-16 01:34:41 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: fusillade762: The night of Oct. 21, Lane and his wife got into a fight about his drinking, and before he went to sleep, he drank two bottles of wine, the accusation says. Around 1 a.m., Lane woke up and drank another eight ounces.

He got a .39 BAC from that? Sounds legit.

Yeah, there's some lying, some bad math, or his liver is toast and is processing alcohol like a mouse. You get to .4 on hard liquor.


How big were the bottles of wine?
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2014-08-16 01:35:47 AM  
Most doctors I know will have a couple of glasses of wine with dinner.

But a .39?? I find that hard to believe.
 
2014-08-16 02:36:12 AM  
Hippa how does that work again?
 
2014-08-16 02:54:15 AM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: Hippa how does that work again?


You mean HIPAA? The  Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act?

Information released under court subpoena is considered public knowledge, i.e. BAL, and can either be released by police, or by a FOIA request to that department, unless the case is sealed by a judge - or the person involved is a minor.

Police are not covered entities under HIPAA in the first place - unless the division providing medical care to that individual is part of their department. (I.e. a LE-attached rescue squad)
 
2014-08-16 02:57:25 AM  

hardinparamedic: Duke_leto_Atredes: Hippa how does that work again?

You mean HIPAA? The  Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act?


Maybe Duke meant "hepata-," which is the medical prefix for "liver.'

/I got nothin'.
 
2014-08-16 02:57:40 AM  
There but for the grace of God...?

/Got to be a real expert on wine, whiskey, and women last year. Got to know jail pretty well too.
//No point in quitting now, but keeping it to the evenings does help.
 
2014-08-16 03:02:10 AM  

fusillade762: The night of Oct. 21, Lane and his wife got into a fight about his drinking, and before he went to sleep, he drank two bottles of wine, the accusation says. Around 1 a.m., Lane woke up and drank another eight ounces.

He got a .39 BAC from that? Sounds legit.


The last eight ounces were probably liquor, and that's only what he remembers. 250-300ml of alcohol is getting pretty tanked even for an alcoholic, Wisconsinites not included, and if you figure he probably had more than he thinks plus a couple more to take the edge off right before he went to work, well....
 
2014-08-16 03:04:35 AM  
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Well Jack, now you have something else to fix
 
2014-08-16 03:18:50 AM  
"Upon his return from that deployment, respondent (Lane) admitted using alcohol to 'self-medicate' issues that he later identified as posttraumatic stress disorder,"

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"It was a baby!"
 
2014-08-16 04:00:34 AM  

foxyshadis: fusillade762: The night of Oct. 21, Lane and his wife got into a fight about his drinking, and before he went to sleep, he drank two bottles of wine, the accusation says. Around 1 a.m., Lane woke up and drank another eight ounces.

He got a .39 BAC from that? Sounds legit.

The last eight ounces were probably liquor, and that's only what he remembers. 250-300ml of alcohol is getting pretty tanked even for an alcoholic, Wisconsinites not included, and if you figure he probably had more than he thinks plus a couple more to take the edge off right before he went to work, well....


He probably drank liquor before the wine.
 
2014-08-16 04:05:27 AM  
Drank pretty much the same amount and blew a .24 at the er the next morning. Our stories are almost identical. Minus me being doctor.
/csb
 
2014-08-16 04:10:54 AM  
Drinking is pretty bad, but withdrawal can be just as bad. I hadn't had a drink in a couple days, took a late lunch at work on a Monday, stopped by the store for a couple things, my eyes rolled back in my head, I was out. Came to strapped to a gurney in the ambulance, got 6 staples in my head from where I keeled over. Cost me three days in the hospital. Now, no beer, nothing.
I realized, looking at my old classmates from school, there aren't that many of them left, just want to hang on a bit longer.
 
2014-08-16 04:24:36 AM  

fusillade762: The night of Oct. 21, Lane and his wife got into a fight about his drinking, and before he went to sleep, he drank two bottles of wine, the accusation says. Around 1 a.m., Lane woke up and drank another eight ounces.

He got a .39 BAC from that? Sounds legit.



58.6 is about 12 servings of wine (@ 5 ounce pour). Using  http://bloodalcoholcalculator.org/, and guessing a weight of 150lbs, his BAC would have been around .308-- if he consumed it all in one hour. Now, we know by the story he consumed at least 8 ounces at a later time.. but at any rate, the story doesn't add up.

However, there are OTC and prescription medications (Ranitadine/Zantac being one example) that are reported to cause higher BAC levels. Ranitadine is alleged to cause an increase of up to 38%.. so.. there is that possibility.
 
2014-08-16 04:25:37 AM  

akede: Ranitadine


It's Ranitidine.. my bad. I should have known better-- I use it.
 
2014-08-16 04:42:54 AM  
On Christmas Day, Lane joined Casa Palmera's six-week outpatient program and began attending Alcoholics Anonymous five or six times a week on Jan. 26, 2014, the accusation states.

Looks they are accusing him of seeking treatment. I can see that it is evidence of an admission that he is/was an alocoholic. Doesn't say if he is now sober, which I'd have thought was the most relevant fact.
 
2014-08-16 04:43:40 AM  

Ex-Texan: Drinking is pretty bad,


Whoa! What? When did this happen?
 
2014-08-16 04:44:23 AM  

fusillade762: The night of Oct. 21, Lane and his wife got into a fight about his drinking, and before he went to sleep, he drank two bottles of wine, the accusation says. Around 1 a.m., Lane woke up and drank another eight ounces.

He got a .39 BAC from that? Sounds legit.


That was gonna be my comment/question.  That's what, 9 servings over the course of 4 or 5 hours?  Unless that was Irish fortified wine normally you call someone with that serving history "sober".
 
2014-08-16 04:44:31 AM  
Something something House reference.
 
2014-08-16 05:49:42 AM  

TomD9938: "Upon his return from that deployment, respondent (Lane) admitted using alcohol to 'self-medicate' issues that he later identified as posttraumatic stress disorder,"

[img.fark.net image 450x300]

"It was a baby!"


Not if you're watching on the Hallmark Channel it wasn't.
 
2014-08-16 05:56:42 AM  

TomD9938: "Upon his return from that deployment, respondent (Lane) admitted using alcohol to 'self-medicate' issues that he later identified as posttraumatic stress disorder,"

[img.fark.net image 450x300]

"It was a baby!"


That damn episode traumatized me for life.
 
2014-08-16 06:05:08 AM  

akede: akede: Ranitadine

It's Ranitidine.. my bad. I should have known better-- I use it.


You don't have to go nearly that fancy; Tylenol completely farks your liver's ability to process alcohol for a few hours. Good way to get embarrassingly shiatfaced, if you ever need to, but as a doctor I'd hope he wasn't stupid enough to include anything with Tylenol or other liver-farking drugs with his binge.
 
2014-08-16 06:21:11 AM  

akede: fusillade762: The night of Oct. 21, Lane and his wife got into a fight about his drinking, and before he went to sleep, he drank two bottles of wine, the accusation says. Around 1 a.m., Lane woke up and drank another eight ounces.

He got a .39 BAC from that? Sounds legit.


58.6 is about 12 servings of wine (@ 5 ounce pour). Using  http://bloodalcoholcalculator.org/, and guessing a weight of 150lbs, his BAC would have been around .308-- if he consumed it all in one hour. Now, we know by the story he consumed at least 8 ounces at a later time.. but at any rate, the story doesn't add up.

However, there are OTC and prescription medications (Ranitadine/Zantac being one example) that are reported to cause higher BAC levels. Ranitadine is alleged to cause an increase of up to 38%.. so.. there is that possibility.


Wait... I can get even drunker if I take antacids?
 
2014-08-16 07:59:10 AM  
The best thing about alcohol hand gel in hospitals isn't the hygiene, it's that everyone walks around like they're hatching a dastardly plan.
 
2014-08-16 08:47:18 AM  

vernonFL: Most doctors I know will have a couple of glasses of wine with dinner.

But a .39?? I find that hard to believe.


As the daughter of an alcoholic/pill addicted surgeon who went to rehab (several times) with lots of other docs, I'm gonna reassure you that your average physician isn't always the master of restraint.
 
2014-08-16 11:41:57 AM  
I don't know about their consumption problems, but the ego's of the doctors that I work around are so high that I suspect they all believe they are invincible and exempt from ever getting called out for their actions.

I shouldnt say all of them.  There is probably 2 out of 10 that are easy going, nice dudes.
 
2014-08-16 12:46:47 PM  
All I know is the wife is forever gonna say "I told you so."

Also, a 10 day rehab program is a joke. I hope that was just something to do until a bed opened up at a real rehab.

It appears from the article that, although he farked up, he seems to be taking responsibility. If he can prove he is serious about recovery, I say let him work (under close supervision). If he slips once, he can go serve fries somewhere.
 
2014-08-16 06:18:00 PM  

fusillade762: akede: fusillade762: The night of Oct. 21, Lane and his wife got into a fight about his drinking, and before he went to sleep, he drank two bottles of wine, the accusation says. Around 1 a.m., Lane woke up and drank another eight ounces.

He got a .39 BAC from that? Sounds legit.


58.6 is about 12 servings of wine (@ 5 ounce pour). Using  http://bloodalcoholcalculator.org/, and guessing a weight of 150lbs, his BAC would have been around .308-- if he consumed it all in one hour. Now, we know by the story he consumed at least 8 ounces at a later time.. but at any rate, the story doesn't add up.

However, there are OTC and prescription medications (Ranitadine/Zantac being one example) that are reported to cause higher BAC levels. Ranitadine is alleged to cause an increase of up to 38%.. so.. there is that possibility.

Wait... I can get even drunker if I take antacids?


With certain medications yes, they decrease your liver's ability to process the alcohol. Ranitadine is available OTC and be found in any grocery store or Costco. Tums, Pepto, and other similar antacids won't do anything.
 
2014-08-17 10:11:17 AM  
Meh. Nothing to see here. Read a book called "The Dynasty" written about 1960. In it, there are alky docs, drug-addicted docs, lazy, money-grubbing doctors, some who are mainly committed to chasing pussy and some plain incompetent doctors.
Bonus- it was written by a doctor.
 
2014-08-17 12:24:49 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: TomD9938: "Upon his return from that deployment, respondent (Lane) admitted using alcohol to 'self-medicate' issues that he later identified as posttraumatic stress disorder,"

[img.fark.net image 450x300]

"It was a baby!"

That damn episode traumatized me for life.


I still can't believe he choked that chicken.
 
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