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(Seattle Times)   That mall cop who maced a random black guy for being near a protest is being investigated by actual police   (seattletimes.com) divider line 106
    More: Followup, pepper sprays, Alex Garland, security guards, Seattle Police, inquiries, Westlake Center  
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2014-08-15 04:18:54 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
THE PROTEST IS NEAR!
 
2014-08-15 05:06:16 PM  
goodquillhunting.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-08-15 05:07:01 PM  
They shouldn't question LaFours...
 
2014-08-15 05:13:56 PM  
Wilford said in an interview with The Seattle Times that he stepped forward, amid shouting, because he was trying to explain his side of the story, but the mall guard yelled "Stop!" and sprayed him.

Guy's black.  What else was there for him to say?
 
2014-08-15 05:36:08 PM  

Diogenes: Wilford said in an interview with The Seattle Times that he stepped forward, amid shouting, because he was trying to explain his side of the story, but the mall guard yelled "Stop!" and sprayed him.

Guy's black.  What else was there for him to say?


Say it with your chest!
 
2014-08-15 05:44:11 PM  
Should have been a university cop. It's a sweet pension for you then.
 
2014-08-15 06:36:26 PM  
Never mace random. Actual.
 
2014-08-15 07:08:35 PM  
So molag Baal is finally getting involved.
 
2014-08-15 07:09:41 PM  

Diogenes: Wilford said in an interview with The Seattle Times that he stepped forward, amid shouting, because he was trying to explain his side of the story, but the mall guard yelled "Stop!" and sprayed him.

Guy's black.  What else was there for him to say?


"Stop but I'll shoot regardless."?
 
2014-08-15 07:10:50 PM  
I know some ethnic names can get silly, but what parents would name their kid Random?
 
2014-08-15 07:11:25 PM  
I thought the only thing a mall cop could do is "observe and report." I managed a movie theater and our security guards had strict instructions (from their company) to never touch the patrons. To go so far as to handcuff the guy? How is that legal?
 
2014-08-15 07:11:28 PM  

skinink: I know some ethnic names can get silly, but what parents would name their kid Random?


Fans of the fifth Hitchhiker's book?
 
2014-08-15 07:12:21 PM  
Subby did you mean maced at random a black guy or maced a random black guy.
 
2014-08-15 07:12:52 PM  
Just imagine what would have happened to that young man if the rent-a-cop was armed with something other than pepper spray, and there weren't several witnesses with cameras.
 
2014-08-15 07:13:34 PM  
www.thesocialleader.com

Mace random a black guy, you must not
 
2014-08-15 07:14:34 PM  

WizardofToast: skinink: I know some ethnic names can get silly, but what parents would name their kid Random?

Fans of the fifth Hitchhiker's book?


Or of the Chronicles of Amber by Zelazny from 1970
 
2014-08-15 07:16:36 PM  
Nice!  But don't go for an apology go for the $.  You deserve it and the security company needs reign in their wanna-be cops.
 
2014-08-15 07:25:15 PM  
Why are headline grammar mistakes spontaneously correcting themselves?  Kinda takes the fun out.
 
2014-08-15 07:25:22 PM  

skinink: I know some ethnic names can get silly, but what parents would name their kid Random?


Typo. Version I'm reading has it Raymond.
 
2014-08-15 07:26:36 PM  
Mall Cop?  Westlake's pretty open to the city, subby To be fair, this is right above the Sound Transit Tunnel Stop where turned into a knockout gamestop while the cops watched impassively... www.seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/11/whos-to-blame/
 
2014-08-15 07:28:36 PM  

Speaker2Animals: skinink: I know some ethnic names can get silly, but what parents would name their kid Random?

Typo. Version I'm reading has it Raymond.


the mall cop maced Raymond?
 
2014-08-15 07:30:17 PM  

skinink: I know some ethnic names can get silly, but what parents would name their kid Random?


I dunno, but one of my friends in high school was named Knowledge. Kinda cool, beats the hell out of Random.
 
2014-08-15 07:31:14 PM  
Next thing you know, they'll be claiming that the guy was involved in a convenience store robbery.
 
2014-08-15 07:31:21 PM  
I am the Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America's largest indoor retail shopping areas. Although there are typically between fifteen and twenty normal security officers working the beat there, we decided a while ago that it would be best to have a specilized force for violent individuals. We use modified electric vehicles and can be anywhere on a given floor within eight and a half minutes.Naturally, the regular security people are unarmed. We "RTFers", by arrangement with the local police, carry high-strength OC spray and batons. If we have a full tactical alert and permission from the local LEOs we also have a Mossberg 500 with less-lethal rounds and two K-frame Smith .38s loaded with 158gr. LRN.Basically, the situation is that we get the call, we lock up the situation, put everything five by five, and cordon the area until the local authorities arrive. We're cops, we just don't get the glory. [Somehow, I imagine the real police wouldn't agree"]I am not permitted to carry Glocks on duty; however, when my wife picks me up from work I strap on the "Deadly Duo" of a 27 and 23, each with Bar-Sto .357 bbl.I am writing a proposal to replace our current Mossberg-Smith armament with the following:
3) MP5K-PDW with red-dot sights;
2) G36 rifles using SS109 rounds;
3) Glock practical tacticles in .357 Sig
1) PSG-1 using Fed Gold Medal .308
1) Starlight scope for the PSG-1 in case we lose power in the building.
3) Glock 27 backup guns
3) Kahr P-9 holdouts
I think this would make us capable of facing nearly any situation. I'll let you know what the management says!!!
 
2014-08-15 07:32:10 PM  
So he's going to get a paid vacation? Not good enough.

/SPD was present as this all went down
//they told the public to get out of the way and let the mallcop "do his job"
///oopsie daisey (not their first, not their last)
 
2014-08-15 07:33:44 PM  

FlyingJ: Westlake's pretty open to the city, subby To be fair, this is right above a few blocks away from the Sound Transit Tunnel Stop


FTFY
 
2014-08-15 07:39:08 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: So he's going to get a paid vacation? Not good enough.

/SPD was present as this all went down
//they told the public to get out of the way and let the mallcop "do his job"
///oopsie daisey (not their first, not their last)


Oopsie? That's standard procedure for Seattle cops; the crowd should be lucky the cop didn't start randomly macing and beating them for the hell of it, too.
 
2014-08-15 07:39:14 PM  

Chainsaw Turd Elf: I am the Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America's largest indoor retail shopping areas. Although there are typically between fifteen and twenty normal security officers working the beat there, we decided a while ago that it would be best to have a specilized force for violent individuals. We use modified electric vehicles and can be anywhere on a given floor within eight and a half minutes.Naturally, the regular security people are unarmed. We "RTFers", by arrangement with the local police, carry high-strength OC spray and batons. If we have a full tactical alert and permission from the local LEOs we also have a Mossberg 500 with less-lethal rounds and two K-frame Smith .38s loaded with 158gr. LRN.Basically, the situation is that we get the call, we lock up the situation, put everything five by five, and cordon the area until the local authorities arrive. We're cops, we just don't get the glory. [Somehow, I imagine the real police wouldn't agree"]I am not permitted to carry Glocks on duty; however, when my wife picks me up from work I strap on the "Deadly Duo" of a 27 and 23, each with Bar-Sto .357 bbl.I am writing a proposal to replace our current Mossberg-Smith armament with the following:
3) MP5K-PDW with red-dot sights;
2) G36 rifles using SS109 rounds;
3) Glock practical tacticles in .357 Sig
1) PSG-1 using Fed Gold Medal .308
1) Starlight scope for the PSG-1 in case we lose power in the building.
3) Glock 27 backup guns
3) Kahr P-9 holdouts
I think this would make us capable of facing nearly any situation. I'll let you know what the management says!!!


You forgot to mention the 3-inch penis you're compensating for.
 
2014-08-15 07:41:13 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Should have been a university cop. It's a sweet pension for you then.


Have to be able to be an actual cop to do that. Campus police are sworn officers that have passed the POST and all that jazz. They are real cops, it is just they deal with policing the mini city that is a university. While it may not seem like it sometimes, the police departments do have standards officers have to meet.

Mall security are just private security guards. All they need is whatever their company requires, which could be nothing at all. As such, it usually pays less than a police job.

So many of them are literally people who couldn't become cops.
 
2014-08-15 07:42:17 PM  
Impersonating a cop is a serious crime.
 
2014-08-15 07:42:26 PM  

HalfOffOffer: Speaker2Animals: skinink: I know some ethnic names can get silly, but what parents would name their kid Random?

Typo. Version I'm reading has it Raymond.

the mall cop maced Raymond?


Everybody hates Raymond.
 
2014-08-15 07:45:35 PM  

Speaker2Animals: Chainsaw Turd Elf: I am the Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America's largest indoor retail shopping areas. Although there are typically between fifteen and twenty normal security officers working the beat there, we decided a while ago that it would be best to have a specilized force for violent individuals. We use modified electric vehicles and can be anywhere on a given floor within eight and a half minutes.Naturally, the regular security people are unarmed. We "RTFers", by arrangement with the local police, carry high-strength OC spray and batons. If we have a full tactical alert and permission from the local LEOs we also have a Mossberg 500 with less-lethal rounds and two K-frame Smith .38s loaded with 158gr. LRN.Basically, the situation is that we get the call, we lock up the situation, put everything five by five, and cordon the area until the local authorities arrive. We're cops, we just don't get the glory. [Somehow, I imagine the real police wouldn't agree"]I am not permitted to carry Glocks on duty; however, when my wife picks me up from work I strap on the "Deadly Duo" of a 27 and 23, each with Bar-Sto .357 bbl.I am writing a proposal to replace our current Mossberg-Smith armament with the following:
3) MP5K-PDW with red-dot sights;
2) G36 rifles using SS109 rounds;
3) Glock practical tacticles in .357 Sig
1) PSG-1 using Fed Gold Medal .308
1) Starlight scope for the PSG-1 in case we lose power in the building.
3) Glock 27 backup guns
3) Kahr P-9 holdouts
I think this would make us capable of facing nearly any situation. I'll let you know what the management says!!!

You forgot to mention the 3-inch penis you're compensating for.


1. He is obviously trolling.
2. "Herrrr, derrrrr. You have a small penis" is a boring counterpoint. At least put some thought into it. We expect better here.
 
2014-08-15 07:47:02 PM  

HalfOffOffer: Why are headline grammar mistakes spontaneously correcting themselves?  Kinda takes the fun out.


Fear of Grammar Obersturmbahnfuehrer.
 
2014-08-15 07:48:41 PM  

HalfOffOffer: Why are headline grammar mistakes spontaneously correcting themselves?  Kinda takes the fun out.


In a few minutes they'll delete any comments that reference the mistake.
 
2014-08-15 07:51:05 PM  

Empty H: Speaker2Animals: Chainsaw Turd Elf: I am the Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America's largest indoor retail shopping areas. Although there are typically between fifteen and twenty normal security officers working the beat there, we decided a while ago that it would be best to have a specilized force for violent individuals. We use modified electric vehicles and can be anywhere on a given floor within eight and a half minutes.Naturally, the regular security people are unarmed. We "RTFers", by arrangement with the local police, carry high-strength OC spray and batons. If we have a full tactical alert and permission from the local LEOs we also have a Mossberg 500 with less-lethal rounds and two K-frame Smith .38s loaded with 158gr. LRN.Basically, the situation is that we get the call, we lock up the situation, put everything five by five, and cordon the area until the local authorities arrive. We're cops, we just don't get the glory. [Somehow, I imagine the real police wouldn't agree"]I am not permitted to carry Glocks on duty; however, when my wife picks me up from work I strap on the "Deadly Duo" of a 27 and 23, each with Bar-Sto .357 bbl.I am writing a proposal to replace our current Mossberg-Smith armament with the following:
3) MP5K-PDW with red-dot sights;
2) G36 rifles using SS109 rounds;
3) Glock practical tacticles in .357 Sig
1) PSG-1 using Fed Gold Medal .308
1) Starlight scope for the PSG-1 in case we lose power in the building.
3) Glock 27 backup guns
3) Kahr P-9 holdouts
I think this would make us capable of facing nearly any situation. I'll let you know what the management says!!!

You forgot to mention the 3-inch penis you're compensating for.

1. He is obviously trolling.
2. "Herrrr, derrrrr. You have a small penis" is a boring counterpoint. At least put some thought into it. We expect better here.



Oh, very well. She has a 3-inch clitoris she's compensating for.
 
2014-08-15 07:51:26 PM  

Speaker2Animals: You forgot to mention the 3-inch penis you're compensating for.


It sounds like you may not be familiar with the classic Mall Ninja thread. Here you go.
http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/
 
2014-08-15 07:51:34 PM  

Empty H: 2. "Herrrr, derrrrr. You have a small penis" is a boring counterpoint. At least put some thought into it. We expect better here.


So, 3 inches?
 
2014-08-15 07:52:36 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Should have been a university cop. It's a sweet pension for you then.


And disability for your hurt feels when people say mean things about you.
 
F42
2014-08-15 08:00:42 PM  
They want to give him a medal for his valiant service to the community?
 
2014-08-15 08:02:53 PM  
Wilford recalled that after being handcuffed Saturday, he sat in a room, was given baby shampoo to wash his face, then was released after about 25 minutes. Wilford said the guard said he was sorry, and a Seattle police officer instructed mall security to release him.
He said Monday he would like a formal apology.


What's he expecting, letterhead?  The guard farked up, let him go, and apologized. He's a mall security guard, that might be as formal as you get.
 
2014-08-15 08:05:21 PM  
You can't abuse our citizens! Only we get to abuse our citizens!
 
2014-08-15 08:07:36 PM  

Lsherm: Wilford recalled that after being handcuffed Saturday, he sat in a room, was given baby shampoo to wash his face, then was released after about 25 minutes. Wilford said the guard said he was sorry, and a Seattle police officer instructed mall security to release him.
He said Monday he would like a formal apology.

What's he expecting, letterhead?  The guard farked up, let him go, and apologized. He's a mall security guard, that might be as formal as you get.


The kind of formal apology that comes with a decent sized settlement attached.
 
2014-08-15 08:09:02 PM  

Speaker2Animals: Chainsaw Turd Elf: I am the Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America's largest indoor retail shopping areas. Although there are typically between fifteen and twenty normal security officers working the beat there, we decided a while ago that it would be best to have a specilized force for violent individuals. We use modified electric vehicles and can be anywhere on a given floor within eight and a half minutes.Naturally, the regular security people are unarmed. We "RTFers", by arrangement with the local police, carry high-strength OC spray and batons. If we have a full tactical alert and permission from the local LEOs we also have a Mossberg 500 with less-lethal rounds and two K-frame Smith .38s loaded with 158gr. LRN.Basically, the situation is that we get the call, we lock up the situation, put everything five by five, and cordon the area until the local authorities arrive. We're cops, we just don't get the glory. [Somehow, I imagine the real police wouldn't agree"]I am not permitted to carry Glocks on duty; however, when my wife picks me up from work I strap on the "Deadly Duo" of a 27 and 23, each with Bar-Sto .357 bbl.I am writing a proposal to replace our current Mossberg-Smith armament with the following:
3) MP5K-PDW with red-dot sights;
2) G36 rifles using SS109 rounds;
3) Glock practical tacticles in .357 Sig
1) PSG-1 using Fed Gold Medal .308
1) Starlight scope for the PSG-1 in case we lose power in the building.
3) Glock 27 backup guns
3) Kahr P-9 holdouts
I think this would make us capable of facing nearly any situation. I'll let you know what the management says!!!

You forgot to mention the 3-inch penis you're compensating for.


You forgot to mention whether that's a tumescent or flaccid three incher. I mean, a three inch grower could get  huge.

img.fark.net
 
2014-08-15 08:12:03 PM  

BadReligion: Lsherm: Wilford recalled that after being handcuffed Saturday, he sat in a room, was given baby shampoo to wash his face, then was released after about 25 minutes. Wilford said the guard said he was sorry, and a Seattle police officer instructed mall security to release him.
He said Monday he would like a formal apology.

What's he expecting, letterhead?  The guard farked up, let him go, and apologized. He's a mall security guard, that might be as formal as you get.

The kind of formal apology that comes with a decent sized settlement attached.


Well that comes from the mall.  That mall cop probably makes $8.75 an hour.
 
2014-08-15 08:12:54 PM  

Chainsaw Turd Elf: I am the Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America's largest indoor retail shopping areas. Although there are typically between fifteen and twenty normal security officers working the beat there, we decided a while ago that it would be best to have a specilized force for violent individuals. We use modified electric vehicles and can be anywhere on a given floor within eight and a half minutes.Naturally, the regular security people are unarmed. We "RTFers", by arrangement with the local police, carry high-strength OC spray and batons. If we have a full tactical alert and permission from the local LEOs we also have a Mossberg 500 with less-lethal rounds and two K-frame Smith .38s loaded with 158gr. LRN.Basically, the situation is that we get the call, we lock up the situation, put everything five by five, and cordon the area until the local authorities arrive. We're cops, we just don't get the glory. [Somehow, I imagine the real police wouldn't agree"]I am not permitted to carry Glocks on duty; however, when my wife picks me up from work I strap on the "Deadly Duo" of a 27 and 23, each with Bar-Sto .357 bbl.I am writing a proposal to replace our current Mossberg-Smith armament with the following:
3) MP5K-PDW with red-dot sights;
2) G36 rifles using SS109 rounds;
3) Glock practical tacticles in .357 Sig
1) PSG-1 using Fed Gold Medal .308
1) Starlight scope for the PSG-1 in case we lose power in the building.
3) Glock 27 backup guns
3) Kahr P-9 holdouts
I think this would make us capable of facing nearly any situation. I'll let you know what the management says!!!


We need to militarize mall security to deal with the threat of declining police militarization. Reed it up, sheeple!
 
2014-08-15 08:27:37 PM  

BadReligion: Lsherm: Wilford recalled that after being handcuffed Saturday, he sat in a room, was given baby shampoo to wash his face, then was released after about 25 minutes. Wilford said the guard said he was sorry, and a Seattle police officer instructed mall security to release him.
He said Monday he would like a formal apology.

What's he expecting, letterhead?  The guard farked up, let him go, and apologized. He's a mall security guard, that might be as formal as you get.

The kind of formal apology that comes with a decent sized settlement attached.


I'm holding out for "the firing of somebody who has shown themselves to be too incompetent to use the tools of their chosen career" myself.

I shop near that mall sometimes. I don't want some jackass with an overinflated ego to whip out the pepper spray at the slightest provocation. I want somebody who has half a clue, thanks.
 
2014-08-15 08:32:19 PM  
N.W.H. said it best. fark the Security Guards.
 
2014-08-15 08:45:29 PM  
Heineken.  I guess that's better than stealing swisher sweets.
 
2014-08-15 08:50:05 PM  
The My Little Pony Killer:

I shop near that mall sometimes. I don't want some jackass with an overinflated ego to whip out the pepper spray at the slightest provocation. I want somebody who has half a clue, thanks.

Unless you're black I don't see why you're worried.
 
2014-08-15 08:53:53 PM  

WickerNipple: The My Little Pony Killer:

I shop near that mall sometimes. I don't want some jackass with an overinflated ego to whip out the pepper spray at the slightest provocation. I want somebody who has half a clue, thanks.

Unless you're black I don't see why you're worried.


I said I don't want them to whip it out at the slightest provocation. I never said I don't want them to whip it out AT ME at the slightest provocation.

/just because I'm not black doesn't mean I think they should be treated like shiat by losers with too much authority
 
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